Best quiver killer I’ve ever ridden was a 5’ 10” tuflite Donald Takayama scorpion 1 set up as a twin with trailers. Put it on rail, ride the barrel, hang 5, cutbacks, etc. I didn’t get off of it for 3 years or so til it broke in half.
I’ve had a RNF 96 light speed 5’4 for 2 years and it’s become my favorite board ever. Ive slowly thinned out my quiver because my instinct is to grab this board first in any condition cus it’s so fun. Makes me feel like a way better surfer than I actually am
@@parko41I’m in the same boat, what size did you go and how much do you weigh? I’m 5’7 ~150lbs and am leaning the stock 5’4 in PU, considering 5’3 if I can find a Black Sheep construction
After watching several times the review you did about the RNF 96, I got one 3 months ago, and I love that board, as beginner it was easy for me to learn rail to rail an to generate speed, it is so much forgiving.
I had a hip surgery too. Massive. I broke it in high tide back washy big waves at about age 52 on badly timed down carve at 220lbs. Now I’m 59 and 190lbs and can surf like a grom on my rocket wide twin w trailer. I recommend Ben Patterson! Especially walking backwards uphill on the hills you skateboard down. Feels killer and gives you new legs from ankle to knee to hip flexor. Looking good Captain!
The Webber shaped afterburner model absolutely checked all the boxes any of these boards can and it was in production like 20 years ago. That board was way ahead of its time. It was a true 1 board quiver. Fro 2-3 all the way to double overhead that board just killed it.
You're a wizard man. I went with the Ss after your initial review and have adored it. Felt bummed realizing there's other boards I might have loved more, but overall, it's about enjoying the ocean and the addictive sensation of riding a wave. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
loved this noel - your best yet. Loving the new rating system. Makes it easy for us to focus on what we want from the board and choose. I have a seaside and just ordered a bobby quad off the back of your review
I have a sea side and really like it as a summer board. It’s fast and get for sloppy waves. I do find that more than any other board I have it has a wave size limit. As soon as the waves get some power and size to it just can’t hold and your flying down the line at 700mph. Ive skipped out on many a bottom turn trying to keep this thing together in the bigger stuff. Of all the boards you have here I feel this one is really the little wave specialist. Great review!!
Thank you for your review Noel! It would be great to add to your table a "paddling score" for each board. I personally owned a SS in the past but sell it because of low "paddling" ability forcing me to always surf at the inside and let the "bombs" to others. In today crowded spots, paddling becomes one of my main attribute when buying a board!
Hey Noel! Amazing content all year around, thanks for sharing it! This series definitely is the best one for choosing boards here in Brazil, gonna try the BV2. Cheers
This series is super helpful Noel! What may be helpful to all the viewers is if you listed the boards you considered for this category. So then we know if a particular board missed out on the top 5 or if it was just wasn't considered. Cheers
I have a Sea side that I’m probably riding a liter and a half too big, but I use it in smaller waves or when it’s less steep. It’s a rocket in knee high and below. It also handles in overhead surf, but is sometimes too fast, and yes, it likes a specific angled approach. Not amazing too to bottom. I have 3 96’s and I surf them in faster, steeper waves. I surf it when it’s small too, but it doesn’t grovel as well for me in mush. Maybe I’ll have to pull my baby trailer when I’m in small surf? It still surf great but it handles better in better waves for me; it can do no wrong. Beautiful rail to rail, top to bottom, and the nose doesn’t catch often.
As an older surfer I stand by the seaside. Plus the no pressure dents on this board is hard to Pass up …the nose does catch on steep waves but you just shouldn’t use This board on the steeper waves. When conditions are average and mushy, this board lights it up 🤙🏾
Great shootout! Just an observation, in smaller waves you look the best on the Seaside and the Podmod. They both just look so fun and loose off the top on small faces and tight turns. most fun to watch anyways, lol. You look great on the other three in bigger waves, the RNF looks super fun with larger steeper faces, and it seems some of the bigger steeper waves of the test were ridden while on the RNF.
I give the pelican a 10 for skimming. Any comparison of the Revo and the 96? I currently surf a Revo. I was all set on the Seaside Volcanic until I watched this video 🙂 I had both hips replaced.
one thing I never hear discussed is the actual planing ability of a board. its one of the fundamental ways a surfboard functions. do you feel that there is a point where no increase of volume can make up for less planing area?
Yes, I’ve ridden boards like the CI DFR with roughly 29L (2-3L more) than I usually ride but it paddles horribly and it has very little glide. The DFR has a lot of rocker from what I can remember…. It’s a true HPSB but it’s a perfect example of more foam does not always equal more glide or better paddling.
Hi Noel, it seems from the rating that you don’t like that much the seaside after all compared to the other boards. Which of those boards would you recommand to intermediate surfer or week end warrior ?
will you be reviewing the lost pisces? it looks like a rnf 96 with some updates. nobody has a review out on it yet - but you usually come through on the new boards!
I thought you surfed best on the Podmod and RNF. I love my Seaside and felt settled on it as my hybid board but now I feel like I have to keep experimenting. I'll be on the look out for a RNF.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 man, I bought it, and yeah, that's the best board I have ever ridden! Thank you for the review and for the detailed breaking down.
How big is the difference between the lost RNF black sheep to the PU? Would it be significantly more easier to catch waves with the black sheep or anything?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I could see you struggled on the modern 2.o , other than that you have been pretty spot on. Just don't tell me the sharpeye 72 is a good Allrounder.
Awesome review! Can't believe there's so many criteria and details on this. All so well figured out. Why didn't the Hypto Krypto wasn't on this list? It's not one of the best?
For the RNF96 as daily driver, being 1.76cm and 65kgs, and daily surf normally Uluwatu and around. My goal was a 5.8 daily driver but stock dims are 32L and my normal ones are 26 to 27L. To get my volume right is a 5.3, 5.4... better to not mess with lowering the volume on a 5.8th. I guess too much of a difference ... Idea is to surf 2 to 4, 5 foot but I'm afraid a 5.5 might be too small for overhead surf ..
Hi Noel! I am looking to buy libtech rnf 96. I am torn between 5'11 and 5'9. I am 189cm(6.2), weight 86kg(189lbs) and i am an intermediate surfer(i surf 1x a week). My current surfboard is 6.2 Eric Arakawa 34.5L(width 20" and 2.63 thickness). I am looking for a fun board that is easy to paddle when the waves are shoulder-high. the libtech 5'9 rnf(20.8" width, 2.6" thickness) has 35L and 5'11 38.3L(21.3" and 2.7" thickness), it might be good to have a bit more volume to paddle easier but at the same time, i am afraid of "over sizing" the board... i have never surfed a board shorter then 5’11 and i am afraid the 5’9 would be too short. What would you recommend?
Nice review Noel!!! I have a question: it seems like the “96” has the narrowest nose, could that also be the reason why it’s not catch that much water upfront?
One of the best board comparison reviews I’ve seen!!! How would you compare the Lost RNF 96 to the Fishbeard? I was thinking of getting a Fishbeard but now I’m thinking RNF 96 might be better? Any reason the Fishbeard didn’t make it in your top 5? I know it’s been a favourite of yours?
You had a hip replacement Noel? I have to have one but I'm way bigger than you and older than you too. How did it go? You can surf the same as before? Worth doing? Was it your right back hip?
Excellent video! It seems that a two board quiver with a Bobby Quad/RNF 96 and a step up such as Ghost/Sweet Spot could cover any surf trip between fun and serious waves. Or would you go with a different category for the second board?
I would like to know how the nose rocker compares between the BV2 and the RNF 96. I'm a not very fit and a bit of a slow paddler so if I want to push the board to bigger days I would nosedive if i go with something flat. Thanks!
I have the puddle jumper hp and the seaside and really dont understand how the pjhp is not on the list. Sick board. Awesome review . Loved this new serie. Welldone
@@aaronjosephs6233 it's been my only board for ages I had 3 of them.. they really came to live when I got them as a quad .. used in any waves and I couldn't point anything on the board that was holding me back. Got the seaside now because I want to build a 3 boards quiver...might put the puddle jumper pro ( waiting on the review) or dominator 2 as daily driver and still need to think about something for when the cyclones hits the points here on sunshine coast, Australia. 🤙
@@aaronjosephs6233 try it as a quad .. I use the performance fcs Xlarge on the front and some old fcs gx very small on the back. Works as a dream! Also make sure you didn't oversized your pjhp..
@@ToledoH mine is a bit oversized I would say 35 liters, I'm ~160 + 4/3 wetsuit. I like it as a quad (use the libtech medium quad set). Would be interesting to see how it would go for me at ~30 liters. When I bought it it was the right size for me
Are k2s ok even for around 85 kg. Futures say they are for lighter surfers. Just looking for something for waist high down the line surfing. The k2 alphas seem to be quite affordable and sustainable.
i dont know if the G skate was out when you did this video - but if it wasnt would it have made this list? where do you see the g skate fitting btween the PM and 96?
The G-Skate was not available back at this time. The G-Skate does not carry the speed these boards do in smaller waves. I think the G-S is more of a daily driver to hood wave board. It will surf smaller waves pretty good but not a wide enough tail to flyin 1-2’ mushy waves from my experience
Going to look into a rnf96. Out here in Hawaii the sea side works good on shallow small days. The minute it gets to 3-4 it's to fast. Half the time i stick the drop half the time the board shoots out from under me cuz I'm not positioning properly for the amount of speed it's producing. And the eps is horrible in any type of chop. Throw power into the mix and it's skipping down the wave
Has anyone here ridden the MR Twin and know how it compares to the RNF? I have the MR Twin in EPS and love the board. Wondering if it's worth trying out the RNF or if they're similar enough to get the same effect
Id say is because firewire doesnt make it on 5.3 so Noel didn't have a board that was spot on his dimensions... sizing is a problem when talking about firewire.. my guess only
Great review as always. This series were specially enlightning. I have 2 doubts/questions wich I´m sure you can aswer. My first question is: are the considerations, regarding the RNF 96, also valid for the Black Sheep (BS) construction? I ask this because in the video footage and "speech" there are only mentions to the PU and EPS constructions but the board showned in the board room is, aparrently, BS. The other question: my daily board is a Sharpeye Modern 2 in EPS, wich i love, but sometimes, especially in hollower and overhead waves, lacks performance (beside my own). Is the RNF 96 in BS, or other construction, a good "complement" to the Modern 2 or are the boards too similar? If not what board (hybrid or semi-hybrid) do you recommend? PS: English is not, obviously, my native language so i apologise for any mistakes or gramatical errors.
The 96 in Black Sheep is just eye candy in this episode because I hadn’t ridden it yet. All the footage of the 96 used in this board comparison was in Lightspeed and PU/Poly. I think the 96 is a great complement to your SharpEye. I suggest getting the 96 in PU/Poly and use it for bigger/better waves for performance surfing.
Great review, this is awesome! I wonder more specifically how size might affect the final rating. For example, in my case being 6'1" at 175 int./Adv, how the scores would change for riding beach breaks or mushy fast waves. The small sizes for some of there are great if they can get down to the low 5's for length, but for a 5'10" 0r 6' board, which one do you think would win out? Also, wave catching ability could be another category. Thanks man, like I said, great stuff and greatly appreciate your work.
For taller guys the BV2 would take the win with more rail line. On the other hand for shorter guys the 96 takes the win out of strength performance in a shorter package. I tried to make that clear in this episode for you taller surfers. All 5 boards paddle great…. I think the BV2 carries the most speed and glide so it wins in padding too.
Hybrid boards are my go to for everyday surfing. When the waves get too big for a hybrids (several feet overhead), the hybrids don’t seem to have stability and control. I struggle with what board to go with. Wondering what your go to boards are when the surf gets big?
Long time listener first time caller… your videos are the best. Over the years I’ve picked up a Seaside and a Monstabox after watching your reviews. I’ve moved off the Seaside and my next board was going to be a Mash-up after your shootout between Seaside, Mash-up, and Dominator, but after watching this I’m now gonna go Lost RNF 96… wondered if you think that’s the right call. I love twins and hybrid outlines… Im a fishy kind of cruisey style surfer. Wanted a board that would go good in small surf as a twin, but also be able to handle bigger surf with a thruster setup. Also, fwiw, I still have my Machado quad fins that would work with the Mash-up which would save me a few $$$. Not a major reason to go Mash-up but still not nothing either. Would be awesome to get your thoughts. Thank you!
I can say from my experience that the RNF would be the most versatile board of them all. I had the Seaside at first, too much of a small wave board for me, then had the MR Cali twin, which was amazing, but only if you don't go too big otherwise it has too much foam. Then had the Mash-up, which I thought would be my ultimate small wave board. It went amazing in small clean down the line waves, but not so well in junkier less pushy waves, and also I think the fins are set too far up the board, making it too loose and hard to control. Then, after watching Mason Ho surf the RNF in literally every kind of surf, I grabbed one, and couldn't believe how much speed and flow, and forgiveness it had straight away. The RNF is the real deal. I think the Mash-up is more hype, with Rob Machado demoing it, as he makes every board look fast and smooth and almost the perfect board. I've watched vids of regular guys surfing them and they don't look that great to me. Just my experience YMMV .
I say 96 without a doubt. It shreds and easy to surf. My HP Twins in that board are next level as a pure twin in 1-6’ surf. The other boards on your radar are fun too but the 96 is legit and super fun for what you are looking for. Cheers
Amazing! Thanks Noel and David for the reply. Will put the ‘96 and the HP Twins on my Christmas list. Love the videos, the channel, and this community!
Thanks for the sweet video. Been looking for a new board in this category. Hows the rnf 96 compare to the lost psycho killer in your opinion? Thats what ive been on for a while now. The outlines look very similar to me. Also looking forward to your Pisces review. Cheers
@@liambrown156 The 96 is faster in the smaller waves but it can still handle overhead shredding. The PK is more of a Daily or Performance board with a wider nose. I think the PK needs more of a wave to go good and be fast
Hey Noel, great work. Love your reviews! Is it possible to oversize the RNF? I'm 5,9, and 85 kg. I bought a 5'8 RNF 15 years ago, kept it, and recently passed it on to my son :-) I loved the board back then, but the old version carries little volume and is way too small for me now and the waves I get to surf at my homebreak. I've been riding a mid-length lately and love the glide and forgiveness. I was thinking about getting a 6'1 RNF as my one-board quiver and for traveling. I'm 46, in decent shape, and an intermediate surfer, but the local waves only allow me to shortboard 1-2 times a month (I mainly longboard). I've also been thinking about the seaside (5'10), but the RNF seems like a better board for my needs. Agree? Thanks again!
Hi Noel, what is the performance quad you are using on the seaside? I tried your pivot quad today and it was amazing! completely different board, fast, and very fun!
Stoked you like my Pivot Quads. Here is the link to my performance 5 fin set. surfnshow.com/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set If you have my Pivot Quad rears already then you just need my MS-Neutral Thruster set. Here is the link for those too. surfnshow.com/products/surf-n-show-neutral-thruster-set
hi Noel, thanks for the amazing review! Can i ask you the difference between Carbon Wrap and Light Speed talking about Lost surfboards? Thank you so much
I like the Light Speed better compared to the older Lost Carbon Wrap. The flex in the Light Speed tech seems to be more predictable and forgiving when your feet are not in the perfect spot. No I have not tried the Black Sheep or Double Dart Carbon Constructions yet. So no comment on those two techs yet
Awesome video as always! Looking for my next board. 210lbs, 6’, east coast of Florida. Would you recommend the RNF 96 or Uber driver XL? Already have something similar to the Bobby quad. Want a small wave performance board with more float.
Thanks for all the good content Noel ! For me, Untitled is the best hybrid board. I live in Indo and this board in Futureflex is magic for 3-4ft clean waves. I surf more/less the same dims than you, I'm 40yo and inter/advanced surfer, and I'm struggleling to find the board between my Untitled and my Ghost. A board for good 4-6ft indo waves. I need volume under the chest because I'm a front foot surfer. I'm 135lbs and 5'6. Do you have any idea? Thanks a lot
Anotrher amazing video , thank you. I have a question for you, usually i ride the same volume as you do, do you think i can go one size up in the lost rnf, instead of the 5`3 buy a 5`4 ( 27.5L)? My local shop has one in stock. Thank you so much for any advice Noel and keep up the game ;)
Hi Noel! What would you choose between the RNF96 and the Dominator2 for a lower intermediate around34l That would be my dayly driver. I have a trip to the Maldives in may
Suggestion put the board your talking about in the board rack - when you were talking about the ci you had the chilli 🌶️ in front of you super confusing I’ve noted this in heaps of your videos When you talked about the the other boards you had them in the rack you were able to point to outline really well works better!
Hey Noel, I am 6 ft 3 about 185 pounds. Beginner but can consistently catch waves. Would you recommend the 59 or 511 rnf 96 ? Would be my first real short board. I am riding a 6 6 right now. Thanks !
I would go down in size and volume until you have mastered the 6’6” your riding. That means you can catch waves, pop to your feet, angle, and do some decent cutbacks and maybe a little top turn. Going to a 5’11” will be difficult… it will be super loose and feel twitchy. It won’t feel stable compared to what your riding now. I say shred the 6’6” until you surf it good and you get bored of it. Then I would drop down to a 6’3”
Hi Noel! I have a question for you, I bought a CI Keel fin, originally for the CI Fishbeard, but there is any other surfboard you recommend for that fin? Thanks for your videos!
Agree. So smooth and stylish. Maybe a twin + 1 could be considered in a future version. Slow it down a little and give it more hold ?. Great review as usual. Noel I would like, if you one day made a mini Simons review, just to get you out of your comfort zone.
Hey Noel, I’m 6’3” 170ish lbs and on the low end of the intermediate scale. Looking to improve my turns surfing NorCal chest to head high plus. Would you recommend the rnf 96 or the BV2 and is there a literage you could suggest. I was thinking in the 34-35L range? Thank you for all the informative videos.
Hi Noel, great review as always. I’m looking for something in between a small wave HP board and a groveler for 1-4’ waves. I’m guessing that’s what this hybrid category is for. I want something that has groveler capabilities, but the super short, extra wide stubbiness of a “true” groveler just does not suit me well. Preferring a touch longer board with more rail line for better glide while paddling. A few that come to mind that meet my ideal length and volume combination (6’2” and about 37.5-38.5 L) are the Lost Puddlejumper Pro, Lost Puddlejumper HP, Firewire Dominator 2, Firewire Mashup, Aipa Dark Twinn, Lost Swordfish. and Hypto Krypto. Of those, do you have a recommendation based on what I’m seeking? Or are there any others I missed you’d suggest? Much thanks.
@@surfnshowreviews7777. Thanks Noel. I think the stock BV2 and Rusty Twin in my liters would be too long and, conversely, a few of those others seem too short and squat for my liking in my liters, with the Fishbeard and Mini Ghost Squash being the exceptions. Also I saw you listed the Gremlin and Astro Pop as favorites (a couple years ago) on your website which align with my length/liter preference, but you didn’t mention it in your reply. I really like what I read and watched about the Puddle Jumper Pro (not PJ High Performance), but I don’t think you reviewed the PJP yet. So with all that said… among the Puddle Jumper Pro, Fishbeard, Mini Ghost Squash, Gremlin, and Astro Pop, what would be your top pick when it comes to a board that’s in-between a small wave SB and groveler and has a bit more length than your standard groveler? Thank you.
Best reviews, thanks Noel! Which would you say is more suited for groveling between the Bobby quad and the RNF? I’m an intermediate 6ft surfer weighing 190 pounds and looking for a board to progress on in mostly 1-4 ft waves
Best quiver killer I’ve ever ridden was a 5’ 10” tuflite Donald Takayama scorpion 1 set up as a twin with trailers. Put it on rail, ride the barrel, hang 5, cutbacks, etc. I didn’t get off of it for 3 years or so til it broke in half.
I’ve had a RNF 96 light speed 5’4 for 2 years and it’s become my favorite board ever. Ive slowly thinned out my quiver because my instinct is to grab this board first in any condition cus it’s so fun. Makes me feel like a way better surfer than I actually am
What's your height / weight for the 5'4? I'm between the 5'3 or 5'4 but can't decide!
Same thing happening to me at the moment 😂
@@parko41I’m in the same boat, what size did you go and how much do you weigh? I’m 5’7 ~150lbs and am leaning the stock 5’4 in PU, considering 5’3 if I can find a Black Sheep construction
@@madthevillain went 5’4” in the PU. It’s sick. I’m 155. I could have gone 5’5” but it feels solid as is.
I love this show so much! Could watch these all day
After watching several times the review you did about the RNF 96, I got one 3 months ago, and I love that board, as beginner it was easy for me to learn rail to rail an to generate speed, it is so much forgiving.
@Ernesto Guevara Thank you for sharing!
Good stuff…
I had a hip surgery too. Massive. I broke it in high tide back washy big waves at about age 52 on badly timed down carve at 220lbs. Now I’m 59 and 190lbs and can surf like a grom on my rocket wide twin w trailer. I recommend Ben Patterson! Especially walking backwards uphill on the hills you skateboard down. Feels killer and gives you new legs from ankle to knee to hip flexor.
Looking good Captain!
The Webber shaped afterburner model absolutely checked all the boxes any of these boards can and it was in production like 20 years ago. That board was way ahead of its time. It was a true 1 board quiver. Fro 2-3 all the way to double overhead that board just killed it.
No one’s as thorough as Noel really the 🐐 of reviews and can surf a tad too.
You're a wizard man. I went with the Ss after your initial review and have adored it. Felt bummed realizing there's other boards I might have loved more, but overall, it's about enjoying the ocean and the addictive sensation of riding a wave. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Agreed, love my Seaside and felt like I had my fishy hybrid solution. Now I want to experiment again with a RNF.
Yes time to get the RNF96
Love the way that BV2 looks!
loved this noel - your best yet. Loving the new rating system. Makes it easy for us to focus on what we want from the board and choose. I have a seaside and just ordered a bobby quad off the back of your review
Thanks for your feedback
@ conrad kriel ! Noel is the best ! Totally agree with the new rating system !
I refuse to buy a board unless it’s been reviewed by Noel Salas. Thanks for all the great videos! Greetings from Ireland
Cheers for the kind words!!!
Bought a Pod Mod from 2020, and its the best board I have ever rode, absolutely love it! 5'6" with a traction pad: $580 | 5'10" AT 174 lbs.
@@tcreate.s The PM is epic
I have a sea side and really like it as a summer board. It’s fast and get for sloppy waves. I do find that more than any other board I have it has a wave size limit. As soon as the waves get some power and size to it just can’t hold and your flying down the line at 700mph. Ive skipped out on many a bottom turn trying to keep this thing together in the bigger stuff. Of all the boards you have here I feel this one is really the little wave specialist.
Great review!!
So true! I’ve never skipped more than one the seaside
The fins would dramatically change the way the boards would work so would be great to match the best fin for each board to really get into it 🤙🏽
thank you so much. looks like RNF 96 is the best for traveling. for small and large days
Absolutely
Thank you for your review Noel! It would be great to add to your table a "paddling score" for each board. I personally owned a SS in the past but sell it because of low "paddling" ability forcing me to always surf at the inside and let the "bombs" to others. In today crowded spots, paddling becomes one of my main attribute when buying a board!
I hear you… at this point I mentioned all of these 5 boards are excellent paddlers. The BV2 paddles the best out of these 5 boards for me
The seaside in tiny waves is unbelievable. I almost get more excited when it's a clean 1-2ft now because I can still shred on it with no crowd.
What dims do you ride it compared to your weight.
@@dynodin81 5'7. I'm 192cm and 85 kg
Hey Noel! Amazing content all year around, thanks for sharing it! This series definitely is the best one for choosing boards here in Brazil, gonna try the BV2. Cheers
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Another incredible review. Thank you so much to taking the time and effort to run such a great experiment. The level of detail you go to is unmatched!
This series is super helpful Noel! What may be helpful to all the viewers is if you listed the boards you considered for this category. So then we know if a particular board missed out on the top 5 or if it was just wasn't considered. Cheers
I was thinking that. For example why did the Hypto Krypto wasn't on this list?
I drive a seaside and now you got me curious to try the others 😂😂😂😂
Great work!!!
I have a Sea side that I’m probably riding a liter and a half too big, but I use it in smaller waves or when it’s less steep. It’s a rocket in knee high and below. It also handles in overhead surf, but is sometimes too fast, and yes, it likes a specific angled approach. Not amazing too to bottom. I have 3 96’s and I surf them in faster, steeper waves. I surf it when it’s small too, but it doesn’t grovel as well for me in mush. Maybe I’ll have to pull my baby trailer when I’m in small surf? It still surf great but it handles better in better waves for me; it can do no wrong. Beautiful rail to rail, top to bottom, and the nose doesn’t catch often.
Always love the amount of info and breakdown of the info. Great 2 part video
As an older surfer I stand by the seaside. Plus the no pressure dents on this board is hard to
Pass up …the nose does catch on steep waves but you just shouldn’t use This board on the steeper waves. When conditions are average and mushy, this board lights it up 🤙🏾
@@surfininmy40s The new Machdocado board review drops tomorrow. This board is fun too
Great shootout! Just an observation, in smaller waves you look the best on the Seaside and the Podmod. They both just look so fun and loose off the top on small faces and tight turns. most fun to watch anyways, lol. You look great on the other three in bigger waves, the RNF looks super fun with larger steeper faces, and it seems some of the bigger steeper waves of the test were ridden while on the RNF.
I give the pelican a 10 for skimming. Any comparison of the Revo and the 96? I currently surf a Revo. I was all set on the Seaside Volcanic until I watched this video 🙂 I had both hips replaced.
Nothing done on the Revo review yet
RNF or BQ as a groveler for front footed surfers in 1-3ft mushy surf? Awesome review btw!
I say BQ… it’s a little faster
You absolutely freaking RIP! You had to be close to world tour standards. Amazing reviews as always
one thing I never hear discussed is the actual planing ability of a board. its one of the fundamental ways a surfboard functions. do you feel that there is a point where no increase of volume can make up for less planing area?
Yes, I’ve ridden boards like the CI DFR with roughly 29L (2-3L more) than I usually ride but it paddles horribly and it has very little glide. The DFR has a lot of rocker from what I can remember…. It’s a true HPSB but it’s a perfect example of more foam does not always equal more glide or better paddling.
Great info and qualitative data! Appreciate the thoughtful review.
Great video! Love the Bob quad and also de rnf 96. ❤
Hi Noel, it seems from the rating that you don’t like that much the seaside after all compared to the other boards.
Which of those boards would you recommand to intermediate surfer or week end warrior ?
@@Adu00909 RanF 96 is my recommendation. All of these boards are good. The 96 is the best though
will you be reviewing the lost pisces? it looks like a rnf 96 with some updates. nobody has a review out on it yet - but you usually come through on the new boards!
@@SlickWillie Yes… hang tight. I just got one
@@surfnshowreviews7777 sick. Looking forward to it.
I thought you surfed best on the Podmod and RNF. I love my Seaside and felt settled on it as my hybid board but now I feel like I have to keep experimenting. I'll be on the look out for a RNF.
Did you ever get one
Hi, mate. Can you specify please what version of RNF96 you tested and recommend? Poly / Epoxy?
Lightspeed…
Please watch my full RNF 96 review to see what I prefer and what I tested
@@surfnshowreviews7777 man, I bought it, and yeah, that's the best board I have ever ridden! Thank you for the review and for the detailed breaking down.
@@iampetrunin So stoked for you!!! 🔥🔥🔥
RNF 96 is a belter! Chuffed to see it take the win. Such a fun, versatile and capable board!
How big is the difference between the lost RNF black sheep to the PU? Would it be significantly more easier to catch waves with the black sheep or anything?
Not a drastic difference in catching waves. If you surf windy conditions a lot then go PU. It’s easier to engage the rail
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks bro! 😎
At 18.25, " I remember surfing choppy waves backside". If I saw waves that choppy at the beach I surf it would be the best day of the year.
Classic... those waves are pretty textured for me.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I could see you struggled on the modern 2.o , other than that you have been pretty spot on. Just don't tell me the sharpeye 72 is a good Allrounder.
Awesome review! Can't believe there's so many criteria and details on this. All so well figured out.
Why didn't the Hypto Krypto wasn't on this list? It's not one of the best?
Glad you liked this episode. The HK is not in the same level as these sleds
For the RNF96 as daily driver, being 1.76cm and 65kgs, and daily surf normally Uluwatu and around. My goal was a 5.8 daily driver but stock dims are 32L and my normal ones are 26 to 27L. To get my volume right is a 5.3, 5.4... better to not mess with lowering the volume on a 5.8th. I guess too much of a difference ...
Idea is to surf 2 to 4, 5 foot but I'm afraid a 5.5 might be too small for overhead surf ..
Talk to the folks at Lost to customize the 96 that much
Hi Noel!
I am looking to buy libtech rnf 96. I am torn between 5'11 and 5'9. I am 189cm(6.2), weight 86kg(189lbs) and i am an intermediate surfer(i surf 1x a week). My current surfboard is 6.2 Eric Arakawa 34.5L(width 20" and 2.63 thickness). I am looking for a fun board that is easy to paddle when the waves are shoulder-high. the libtech 5'9 rnf(20.8" width, 2.6" thickness) has 35L and 5'11 38.3L(21.3" and 2.7" thickness), it might be good to have a bit more volume to paddle easier but at the same time, i am afraid of "over sizing" the board... i have never surfed a board shorter then 5’11 and i am afraid the 5’9 would be too short. What would you recommend?
I answered this question from you on Insta already. Cheers
Can you copy paste the answer here ty!
I have the seaside and thinking it will be fine for Bali up to 4 feet or so as I’m not into huge waves what do you think Noel ? ❤
It will be fun and fast. The 96 is on another level though. Just saying
Nice review Noel!!! I have a question: it seems like the “96” has the narrowest nose, could that also be the reason why it’s not catch that much water upfront?
Yes, I think it also has the most rocker. That will help too
One of the best board comparison reviews I’ve seen!!! How would you compare the Lost RNF 96 to the Fishbeard? I was thinking of getting a Fishbeard but now I’m thinking RNF 96 might be better? Any reason the Fishbeard didn’t make it in your top 5? I know it’s been a favourite of yours?
You had a hip replacement Noel? I have to have one but I'm way bigger than you and older than you too. How did it go? You can surf the same as before? Worth doing? Was it your right back hip?
Excellent video! It seems that a two board quiver with a Bobby Quad/RNF 96 and a step up such as Ghost/Sweet Spot could cover any surf trip between fun and serious waves. Or would you go with a different category for the second board?
That sounds like a fun quiver to me....
I would like to know how the nose rocker compares between the BV2 and the RNF 96. I'm a not very fit and a bit of a slow paddler so if I want to push the board to bigger days I would nosedive if i go with something flat.
Thanks!
Sorry I don’t measure rocker… maybe contact the folks at Lost and Chilli for that info
I have the puddle jumper hp and the seaside and really dont understand how the pjhp is not on the list. Sick board. Awesome review . Loved this new serie.
Welldone
I have the PJHP and I did feel like it was kinda too fast and hard to sink the rail once over 4 feet, but I'm not a great surfer so who knows
I think the tail is a bit wide for the PJHP in 4-6' surf. The PJHP is more of a groveler for me.
@@aaronjosephs6233 it's been my only board for ages I had 3 of them.. they really came to live when I got them as a quad .. used in any waves and I couldn't point anything on the board that was holding me back. Got the seaside now because I want to build a 3 boards quiver...might put the puddle jumper pro ( waiting on the review) or dominator 2 as daily driver and still need to think about something for when the cyclones hits the points here on sunshine coast, Australia. 🤙
@@aaronjosephs6233 try it as a quad .. I use the performance fcs Xlarge on the front and some old fcs gx very small on the back. Works as a dream! Also make sure you didn't oversized your pjhp..
@@ToledoH mine is a bit oversized I would say 35 liters, I'm ~160 + 4/3 wetsuit. I like it as a quad (use the libtech medium quad set). Would be interesting to see how it would go for me at ~30 liters. When I bought it it was the right size for me
Are k2s ok even for around 85 kg. Futures say they are for lighter surfers. Just looking for something for waist high down the line surfing. The k2 alphas seem to be quite affordable and sustainable.
The Alpha material is light and affordable. I say give them a go
i dont know if the G skate was out when you did this video - but if it wasnt would it have made this list? where do you see the g skate fitting btween the PM and 96?
The G-Skate was not available back at this time.
The G-Skate does not carry the speed these boards do in smaller waves. I think the G-S is more of a daily driver to hood wave board. It will surf smaller waves pretty good but not a wide enough tail to flyin 1-2’ mushy waves from my experience
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for the reply! Good info!
Going to look into a rnf96. Out here in Hawaii the sea side works good on shallow small days. The minute it gets to 3-4 it's to fast. Half the time i stick the drop half the time the board shoots out from under me cuz I'm not positioning properly for the amount of speed it's producing. And the eps is horrible in any type of chop. Throw power into the mix and it's skipping down the wave
Get a PU/Poly 96…. Next level fun
@@surfnshowreviews7777 going to my local shop today to see what they got. Got any fin recommendations?
There are so many boards in this broad category. I have a rocket redux. Not sure how different it is to the rnf96
Bobby Quad vs Ultra joe as a quad, which feels better? Booby quad looks sic!
Noel. Amazing review ! you are so good in reviewing !
any reason you are not showing the bottom of each board?
need an updated version of this with fire wire machado avacado model
Has anyone here ridden the MR Twin and know how it compares to the RNF? I have the MR Twin in EPS and love the board. Wondering if it's worth trying out the RNF or if they're similar enough to get the same effect
I’d be curious why the mashup didn’t make it.
Thanks for the great videos!
Id say is because firewire doesnt make it on 5.3 so Noel didn't have a board that was spot on his dimensions... sizing is a problem when talking about firewire.. my guess only
@@ToledoH thanks!
Hi Noel, how would you compare the rnf 96 with the older lost short round? Similar characteristics? Or completely different ride? Thanks
Not sure… never rode the Short Round
Great review as always. This series were specially enlightning. I have 2 doubts/questions wich I´m sure you can aswer. My first question is: are the considerations, regarding the RNF 96, also valid for the Black Sheep (BS) construction? I ask this because in the video footage and "speech" there are only mentions to the PU and EPS constructions but the board showned in the board room is, aparrently, BS. The other question: my daily board is a Sharpeye Modern 2 in EPS, wich i love, but sometimes, especially in hollower and overhead waves, lacks performance (beside my own). Is the RNF 96 in BS, or other construction, a good "complement" to the Modern 2 or are the boards too similar? If not what board (hybrid or semi-hybrid) do you recommend?
PS: English is not, obviously, my native language so i apologise for any mistakes or gramatical errors.
The 96 in Black Sheep is just eye candy in this episode because I hadn’t ridden it yet. All the footage of the 96 used in this board comparison was in Lightspeed and PU/Poly.
I think the 96 is a great complement to your SharpEye. I suggest getting the 96 in PU/Poly and use it for bigger/better waves for performance surfing.
Great review, this is awesome! I wonder more specifically how size might affect the final rating. For example, in my case being 6'1" at 175 int./Adv, how the scores would change for riding beach breaks or mushy fast waves. The small sizes for some of there are great if they can get down to the low 5's for length, but for a 5'10" 0r 6' board, which one do you think would win out?
Also, wave catching ability could be another category. Thanks man, like I said, great stuff and greatly appreciate your work.
For taller guys the BV2 would take the win with more rail line. On the other hand for shorter guys the 96 takes the win out of strength performance in a shorter package.
I tried to make that clear in this episode for you taller surfers.
All 5 boards paddle great…. I think the BV2 carries the most speed and glide so it wins in padding too.
@@surfnshowreviews7777Right on, makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the response.
Incredible video but you forgot about the 8ft wavestorm. The only true one board quiver.
Thank you for the review Noel really nice one going deep into the details !
How do you like the Puddle Jumper Pro ?
So far so good on the PJ Pro. I am working on that review now. WE NEED WAVES though.
Hybrid boards are my go to for everyday surfing. When the waves get too big for a hybrids (several feet overhead), the hybrids don’t seem to have stability and control. I struggle with what board to go with. Wondering what your go to boards are when the surf gets big?
Ghost
Long time listener first time caller… your videos are the best. Over the years I’ve picked up a Seaside and a Monstabox after watching your reviews. I’ve moved off the Seaside and my next board was going to be a Mash-up after your shootout between Seaside, Mash-up, and Dominator, but after watching this I’m now gonna go Lost RNF 96… wondered if you think that’s the right call. I love twins and hybrid outlines… Im a fishy kind of cruisey style surfer. Wanted a board that would go good in small surf as a twin, but also be able to handle bigger surf with a thruster setup. Also, fwiw, I still have my Machado quad fins that would work with the Mash-up which would save me a few $$$. Not a major reason to go Mash-up but still not nothing either. Would be awesome to get your thoughts. Thank you!
I can say from my experience that the RNF would be the most versatile board of them all. I had the Seaside at first, too much of a small wave board for me, then had the MR Cali twin, which was amazing, but only if you don't go too big otherwise it has too much foam. Then had the Mash-up, which I thought would be my ultimate small wave board. It went amazing in small clean down the line waves, but not so well in junkier less pushy waves, and also I think the fins are set too far up the board, making it too loose and hard to control.
Then, after watching Mason Ho surf the RNF in literally every kind of surf, I grabbed one, and couldn't believe how much speed and flow, and forgiveness it had straight away. The RNF is the real deal.
I think the Mash-up is more hype, with Rob Machado demoing it, as he makes every board look fast and smooth and almost the perfect board. I've watched vids of regular guys surfing them and they don't look that great to me.
Just my experience YMMV .
I say 96 without a doubt. It shreds and easy to surf. My HP Twins in that board are next level as a pure twin in 1-6’ surf. The other boards on your radar are fun too but the 96 is legit and super fun for what you are looking for. Cheers
Amazing! Thanks Noel and David for the reply. Will put the ‘96 and the HP Twins on my Christmas list. Love the videos, the channel, and this community!
think im going to get the rnf 96... is getting it in normal PU just as good as that black sheep construction?
@@thedarwinsnatchers6745 if you surf choppy waves often then go PU. If you surf clean conditions like me all the time I say Black Sheep
Which board would you say is best for an intermediate surfer trying to go shorter?
96
@@surfnshowreviews7777 cool. Im 5’9” 182 lbs. which size you think I should get?
Thanks for the sweet video. Been looking for a new board in this category. Hows the rnf 96 compare to the lost psycho killer in your opinion? Thats what ive been on for a while now. The outlines look very similar to me. Also looking forward to your Pisces review. Cheers
@@liambrown156 The 96 is faster in the smaller waves but it can still handle overhead shredding. The PK is more of a Daily or Performance board with a wider nose. I think the PK needs more of a wave to go good and be fast
This is awesome, thank you 🙏 Have you ever ridden the DHD Phoenix and how compares to the Lost RNF 96?
No sorry
Hey Noel, great work. Love your reviews! Is it possible to oversize the RNF? I'm 5,9, and 85 kg. I bought a 5'8 RNF 15 years ago, kept it, and recently passed it on to my son :-) I loved the board back then, but the old version carries little volume and is way too small for me now and the waves I get to surf at my homebreak. I've been riding a mid-length lately and love the glide and forgiveness. I was thinking about getting a 6'1 RNF as my one-board quiver and for traveling. I'm 46, in decent shape, and an intermediate surfer, but the local waves only allow me to shortboard 1-2 times a month (I mainly longboard). I've also been thinking about the seaside (5'10), but the RNF seems like a better board for my needs. Agree? Thanks again!
You can size up the 96. I like it better compared to the Seaside too
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks !!!
Do you think that the mash up would have done better than the seaside in this review/category.
What are the rates to your board consultation ?
The Mash Up might have done good in 1-3’ but not very good in 4-6’+ surf. The Seaside is fun in 1-6’ surf.
Surfboard Consulting info can be found here.
surfnshow.com/pages/surfboard-consulting
Interesting rail to rail flow insight and stats on the Seaside
Are you gonna review the lost retro tripper?
Probably not.. sorry
You looked best on The Seaside, the extra wide nose smoothed out your turns and drew out a wide arch that looked smooth 😎⚡️🤙
For slightly smaller waves(less all around), what’s a better choice, Bobby quad or rnf 96?
I like the 96 better... you have more fin set up options to keep the 96 fun and exciting in smaller waves.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 do u recommend wide or stock dims for the rnf if I’m gonna use it in waves on the smaller range
@@KapoorAri Regular… only wider dims for smaller waves
Hi Noel, what is the performance quad you are using on the seaside? I tried your pivot quad today and it was amazing! completely different board, fast, and very fun!
Stoked you like my Pivot Quads. Here is the link to my performance 5 fin set.
surfnshow.com/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set
If you have my Pivot Quad rears already then you just need my MS-Neutral Thruster set. Here is the link for those too.
surfnshow.com/products/surf-n-show-neutral-thruster-set
Hey Noe! Why you don't compare the hyptocrypto?
The HK is not in the same league as these boards. The HK fits this category and it’s fun to ride but these boards out perform that board by a mile.
Aloha Noel. Where would you place the Cymatic?.
Cymatic is more of a daily driver or HPSB.
hi Noel, thanks for the amazing review! Can i ask you the difference between Carbon Wrap and Light Speed talking about Lost surfboards? Thank you so much
I like the Light Speed better compared to the older Lost Carbon Wrap. The flex in the Light Speed tech seems to be more predictable and forgiving when your feet are not in the perfect spot.
No I have not tried the Black Sheep or Double Dart Carbon Constructions yet. So no comment on those two techs yet
@@surfnshowreviews7777 in terms of durability CW vs LS ? Thanks a lot. It helps to decide my next board construction
@@forzasettedimarchesinienri9461 Roughly the same
Awesome video as always! Looking for my next board. 210lbs, 6’, east coast of Florida.
Would you recommend the RNF 96 or Uber driver XL? Already have something similar to the Bobby quad. Want a small wave performance board with more float.
RNF 96 for sure
Ubdr xl is unick board.hr need awave
Thanks for all the good content Noel ! For me, Untitled is the best hybrid board. I live in Indo and this board in Futureflex is magic for 3-4ft clean waves. I surf more/less the same dims than you, I'm 40yo and inter/advanced surfer, and I'm struggleling to find the board between my Untitled and my Ghost. A board for good 4-6ft indo waves. I need volume under the chest because I'm a front foot surfer. I'm 135lbs and 5'6. Do you have any idea? Thanks a lot
@Mathias Giacardy have the untitled v2, but have surfed it few times :( , Surfing in the Mediterranean is tough, but love the future flex !
Absolute amazing video!!!!
How does the rnf hold up against a DHD phoenix?
Never tried the Phoenix…. However the Phoenix is more of a small wave board
Awwwwweeeeesooooommmmeeee Cooooool very helpppppfuuuuul!!!!!! Thxxxxxxxxxxx!!!!!!
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Anotrher amazing video , thank you. I have a question for you, usually i ride the same volume as you do, do you think i can go one size up in the lost rnf, instead of the 5`3 buy a 5`4 ( 27.5L)? My local shop has one in stock. Thank you so much for any advice Noel and keep up the game ;)
You can go up to the 5’4”. The board is still loose and fast… and in smaller surf run it as a pure Twin with my HP Twins. So sick
You looked best surfing on the BQ
Hi Noel! What would you choose between the RNF96 and the Dominator2 for a lower intermediate around34l
That would be my dayly driver. I have a trip to the Maldives in may
96… is more versatile and easier to surf
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks!
Are these good for beginners who have grown out of their foamies (8ft and 5’8 fish foamie)
Yes… just make sure you get one of these boards with a good amount of foam so your transition from foam top to hard top is good.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks so much!!
Great review. Curious though as I think a wave pool could possibly give the best review as the wave is identical to each board
Suggestion put the board your talking about in the board rack - when you were talking about the ci you had the chilli 🌶️ in front of you super confusing I’ve noted this in heaps of your videos
When you talked about the the other boards you had them in the rack you were able to point to outline really well works better!
@@theBamboozleRoom Got it thanks.
Hey Noel, I am 6 ft 3 about 185 pounds. Beginner but can consistently catch waves. Would you recommend the 59 or 511 rnf 96 ? Would be my first real short board. I am riding a 6 6 right now. Thanks !
I would go down in size and volume until you have mastered the 6’6” your riding. That means you can catch waves, pop to your feet, angle, and do some decent cutbacks and maybe a little top turn.
Going to a 5’11” will be difficult… it will be super loose and feel twitchy. It won’t feel stable compared to what your riding now.
I say shred the 6’6” until you surf it good and you get bored of it. Then I would drop down to a 6’3”
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thank you for the advice man! I appreciate it
Hi Noel! I have a question for you, I bought a CI Keel fin, originally for the CI Fishbeard, but there is any other surfboard you recommend for that fin? Thanks for your videos!
That Keel fin is so big it will work in some Quad fish type boards too. Try it in boards like the Seaside or even Some Classic style fish boards
Living here on east coast nc narrowed down to an Rw squash and BV2 both eps which board would best suit this area ?
BV2
I’m not familiar with the Bobby Quad appears to be a 2022 board so I’m not current on this years models due ti working 2 jobs
As a humble spectator your surfing looks better to me, with the seaside.
Agree. So smooth and stylish. Maybe a twin + 1 could be considered in a future version. Slow it down a little and give it more hold ?. Great review as usual. Noel I would like, if you one day made a mini Simons review, just to get you out of your comfort zone.
@@Quickrex I'd love to see a Seaside with three boxes
@@cwr8618 pretty easy to add a center box, but that spine is pretty high
Was shocked he didn’t like it’s flow the catches were so minor loved those lines overall stoked people agree
The sea side is trash in bumpy conditions and doesn't really go great in anything with size and punch
Will you pls do a review on the AJW potato launcher 3 steprail???
Hey Noel, I’m 6’3” 170ish lbs and on the low end of the intermediate scale. Looking to improve my turns surfing NorCal chest to head high plus. Would you recommend the rnf 96 or the BV2 and is there a literage you could suggest. I was thinking in the 34-35L range? Thank you for all the informative videos.
Volume range 34-36l sounds about right. Since your taller go with a BV2 so you have a little more rail line.
Thank you so much for the quick response!
Hi Noel, great review as always. I’m looking for something in between a small wave HP board and a groveler for 1-4’ waves. I’m guessing that’s what this hybrid category is for. I want something that has groveler capabilities, but the super short, extra wide stubbiness of a “true” groveler just does not suit me well. Preferring a touch longer board with more rail line for better glide while paddling. A few that come to mind that meet my ideal length and volume combination (6’2” and about 37.5-38.5 L) are the Lost Puddlejumper Pro, Lost Puddlejumper HP, Firewire Dominator 2, Firewire Mashup, Aipa Dark Twinn, Lost Swordfish. and Hypto Krypto. Of those, do you have a recommendation based on what I’m seeking? Or are there any others I missed you’d suggest? Much thanks.
BV2, Mini Ghost Squash, UDXL, Rocket Wide Squash.
Twin Fins….
Rusty Twin, Fishbeard, Aipa Modern Fish.
@@surfnshowreviews7777.
Thanks Noel. I think the stock BV2 and Rusty Twin in my liters would be too long and, conversely, a few of those others seem too short and squat for my liking in my liters, with the Fishbeard and Mini Ghost Squash being the exceptions. Also I saw you listed the Gremlin and Astro Pop as favorites (a couple years ago) on your website which align with my length/liter preference, but you didn’t mention it in your reply.
I really like what I read and watched about the Puddle Jumper Pro (not PJ High Performance), but I don’t think you reviewed the PJP yet.
So with all that said… among the Puddle Jumper Pro, Fishbeard, Mini Ghost Squash, Gremlin, and Astro Pop, what would be your top pick when it comes to a board that’s in-between a small wave SB and groveler and has a bit more length than your standard groveler? Thank you.
@@jblo76 Out of these boards I like the Fishbeard best but the AP and Gremlin grovel better
No Pyzel Astro Pop? Thought that might've made it in? Great vid and reviews tho 🤙
Asro Pop is a Groveler and best in 1-4' surf. Not the same caliber as these 5 boards in overhead surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 ah ok, no problem, thanks 👍🤙
Best reviews, thanks Noel! Which would you say is more suited for groveling between the Bobby quad and the RNF? I’m an intermediate 6ft surfer weighing 190 pounds and looking for a board to progress on in mostly 1-4 ft waves
I like the 96 better… you can shred it purely as a Twin in smaller waves and have a good time.
This made me want a BV2 Bad... To me it looks the best under your foot.