@@compareandcontrast9833 To be fair, if Starscream got ahold of, oh I don’t know, the branch of a thought to be extinct plant, the first thing that he would probably think of would be using it to usurp Megatron’s leadership.
I would like to point out that this is not an exaggeration. This is literally happened in the G1 cartoon Megatron tripped over a rock and fell face Forward and startscream immediately declared himself leader as Megatron was getting up
I like to think the reason Starscream is the second in command is because Megatron knows Starscream is both reasonable successfull and has a tendency to murder himself up the ranks. So in order to not lose a bunch of competent people to betrayal, Starscream gets put so high that the only target he has is Megatron himself, and he thinks he can handle the backstabbing. Of course, that does not work, but the logic was sound behind it. Promoted into a position Starscream is not a threat, yet underestimated how much traitorous energy the guy has... Somehow.
Also, having a pathological backstabber as his #2 is a good reminder for Megatron to never get complacent. Because the moment he does, Starscream _will_ put a knife in his back and declare himself King Shite.
"I am drowning There is no sign of land You are coming down with me Hand in unlovable hand And I hope you die I hope we both die" -excerpt from No Children, the song I presume Megs and Starscream played as their first dance
“ Why? That's what they all asked me. Why him... why Starscream? Why, of all the Decepticons, did I decide to revitalize the one whose record of deceit and betrayal is legend? Because I'm an idiot, that's why! ” -Megatron
Personal TFA theory: Slipstream's personality is supposed to be Starscream's traitorousness. Think about it: without his ego and cowardice, Starscream could have managed to keep command of the Decepticons, or at the very least avoided execution afterwards. She betrayed Scream, and the canceled season was going to have her betray Megs. She even betrayed her other clones' gender.
I think that there’s a fan art of Optimus Prime giving the Autobots’ most successful deep cover saboteur a medal for foiling Megatron’s plans across several millennia-it was Starscream.
They have to make another starscream just how they did in armada, it was so refreshing and different instead of the predictable backstabber we know him to be
Interesting fact the definition of the trope right hand trying to take power from the big bad is The Starscream they literally named a trope after him.
Starscream is my absolute favourite Transformers character, and I really don’t think people understand how evil he truly is. The fandom often treats him as just simply annoying and pathetic, and while both of those statements are very true, he is not a helpless little sod. He’s quite literally a genocidal war criminal (to be fair though, most of the Transformers are) who only feels bad when it’s gotten him into trouble. But Armada and SG Starscream are the exceptions to this
I have been binge watching this channel and others like it for Transformers lore in general and a summary of the long running IDW Transformers continuity. I doubt I will ever read the whole IDW series beginning to end, but there are a few I wouldn't mind reading for myself. ...... You kinda have to wonder how Starscream couldn't figure out that the Decepticons wouldn't respect his leadership when there is an accepted mentality that the strong should rule over the weak. He's not a weakling, but he certainly isn't the strongest in terms of brute force. I suppose we could attribute this to his massive ego and short sightedness.
Bro your an inspiration to me and my life so please keep up the good work and keep spreading the crazy and tf vibes all around ok Just got fired from my job yesterday and I saw you dropping this today and I was like wth I've gotta watch this So thanks bro you've really done a lot👌✨
I always thought it was cool how Megatron appears from the flames and offers a hand to starscream, nice little throwback to armada when he’s encountered by wheeljack
I was never a huge fan of starscream before I read idw, it made him one of my favorite characters ever and I hold an almost unrivaled love for him now.
@jesusromanpadro3853 not even that, it's been shown time and again that starscream has the capacity of defeating practically any character from Optimis to Megatron and has several times reached into the realm of the gods...with the caviot of him only showing this when he isn't working for Megatron or the Decepticon throne
In Earthspark, personally his betrayal in season two, and overall his characterization, feels like a retcon. It doesn't help that the first season's writers were changed because of the writers' strike. Overall, no one liked this betrayal because it goes against the first season's message that everyone, including Decepticons, deserves a second chance. But now this theme of redemption is thrown to the trash when the only one who redeemed himself is Megatron, and he redeemed himself before the events of the show, so it doesn't count! It's unfair that he's the only one to be redeemed when all the other decepticons could too! I don't even want to know what these writers will do with Tarantulas if they even think about bringing him back!
One of my favourite Starscream betrayals that didn't get mentioned here - Transformers: Decepticons for the Nintendo DS. In this retelling of the 2007 movie story, Starscream attempted to take command of the Decepticons after Megatron disappeared in pursuit of the Allspark, pronouncing the old leader dead and a traitor. He sent an agent to Earth - the player's own custom character - to enforce his rule over the Decepticons, and to help him locate the Allspark. However, this agent soon learned from Barricade and the other Decepticons on Earth that Megatron was alive, just encased in ice - so Starscream pressured them into killing him while he's vulnerable. The agent went against him, though, opting to free Megatron from his icy prison. And just in time, because while all that was happening, Starscream nabbed the Allspark from Bumblebee and went on a rampage. The Decepticons banded together to try and stop him, and he had every one of them killed just to hold on to his position. It all came down to a final battle, where his former agent managed to wrestle the Allspark out of his hands, but not without sustaining heavy battle damage. Before Starscream could finish them off and reclaim the Allspark, though, an angry Megatron arrived on the scene. He did battle with Starscream, chasing him through the skies, and ultimately gave the backstabber his just desserts.
Have you done a video on either Titans, Pretenders, or the triple/multi-changer? Bots that were science experiments gone crazy? Great video, by the way!
I really like star scream, he is very much one of my favourite decepticorn (mainly the aligned star scream since I forgot the name), the man is a manipulator and is only kept around due to having a somewhat useful, I just love that war criminal.
to be fair I feel starscream in most of his depictions would kill it in a greek tragedy or a political thriller. His main problem is unlike us squishy meatbags, he's trying to beat a more powerful robot when their both at least 3 stories tall and an anti tank gun is a revolver to them
In my school vr game Goalius does know of 1 betrayal that lead to the Liberation of the planet Titan 4 (When he was alive he allined himself with the Atomatons and The Astro Toilets but after finding out that 1 of the Astro Toilets targets was Goalius who was trained by Megatronus Prime so he got the forces to lose there grip on the planet so The Helldivers can liberated)
Gilthor is a very underrated Transformers concept. He was made by the Quintessons, so he's an official Transformer. He could be another Bizarro type character for Optimus and the other Transformers. I say another because people say Toxitron is a Bizarro type character. But Gilthor could be like present Bizarro in the DC comics. Unknown what to do because all they know is conflict and trying to find a place.
This video really shows the cycling playbook of everyone's favorite backstabber. Also shows why no-one should ever count him out, or ignore him; as one of those slot machine responses is always giant overpowered destroy everything monster. Someday, in some universe, he is gonna hit jackpot and everything is going to die. That's why he keeps going.
Starscream the Betrayer becomes ambassador of peace with the walking war crime, user of the Geneva Suggestion, Shockwave. What is regeneration 1? I need to read it!!!
17:35 Learning about Octane and his "work" was funny enough, but hearing Megatron order Starscream to basically get laid, made me giggle like an idiot. Good ol Japan lmao.
WTF manga/comic is this even from? I thought Transformers was about good robots fighting morally dubious robots who are sometimes good or just worse than Hitler.
Baby Starscream when Baby Megatron falls asleep first at naptime: "Megatron has fallen, I am the leader of the Decepticons now! Honk shoo honk shoo..."
For my fellow men of culture, the Octane photo shoot takes place in Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 57. The one "featured" in it is Trickdiamond, not Lunaclub. You're welcome.
I don't know but I want to see Starscream become the leader of the Decepticons only for someone like Soundwave to rip him apart because on how much he sucks at the position.
Where can someone find these comics where all these different stories happen? I've only known the G1 show and movies...missing out on soooooooooooooo much.
Ah yes the Mazinger the legend, the ultimate, the greatest, and the one that started the mech genre Mazinger and Koji Ibuki, Gunbuster, Gaogaigar, and the one and only Gundam took over and the rest is history.
The only time Starscream didn't betray Megatron is when the entire universe has its morals flipped which shows how determined that bot is
I mean technically Armada didn't?
Hell he died showing Megatron the danger.
@@samurexatlas7373 He still flipped from 'con to Autobot
If I recall that's because Megatron betrayed him first and is it a betrayal if your betrayed first? Note it's been a while so I could be wrong
Siege starscream betrayed Megatron but not for selfish reasons he was trying to stop unicron.
@@samurexatlas7373 hi dude how are you
"He tried to kill megatron with a pony"
Any other franchise I would say thats insane but for Starscream ehhh I could see it.
Probably the least treasonous way he could think of
I mean Transformers did have a offical crossover with My Little pony a few times.
To the point where at least one version of Megatron canonically is a fan
@@compareandcontrast9833 To be fair, if Starscream got ahold of, oh I don’t know, the branch of a thought to be extinct plant, the first thing that he would probably think of would be using it to usurp Megatron’s leadership.
Megatron: *Trips and falls over
Starscream: "Megatron has fallen! I am now the leader of the Decepticons!"
I would like to point out that this is not an exaggeration. This is literally happened in the G1 cartoon Megatron tripped over a rock and fell face Forward and startscream immediately declared himself leader as Megatron was getting up
@@klaykid117 hello master chief
Megatron: "Awh, f*ck. I can't believe you've done this."
Also Megatron, most likely: *oneshot.mp4*
[sees ALL of Starscream's betrayals in the title]
[checks length of video]
[cackles]
Yep, I'm surprised it's as short as it is. :)
@@bradleyadams5252 hi dude how are you
I mean, he skipped over Armada Starscream's betrayals, but that was mostly because Armada Starscream's a good guy at heart.
@@AlriikRidesAgain hi dude how are you
I like to think the reason Starscream is the second in command is because Megatron knows Starscream is both reasonable successfull and has a tendency to murder himself up the ranks. So in order to not lose a bunch of competent people to betrayal, Starscream gets put so high that the only target he has is Megatron himself, and he thinks he can handle the backstabbing.
Of course, that does not work, but the logic was sound behind it. Promoted into a position Starscream is not a threat, yet underestimated how much traitorous energy the guy has... Somehow.
Also, having a pathological backstabber as his #2 is a good reminder for Megatron to never get complacent. Because the moment he does, Starscream _will_ put a knife in his back and declare himself King Shite.
@nicholasfarrell5981 Also helps to keep others from trying aswell he can use Starscream as a way to make sure other cons know not to mess with him
we love armada starscream. all the goodness that the other starscreams didn't have was all put into him. that's why he's such a good guy.
We need another armada style starscream his arc is unreal from scum bag to warrior with honour
Maybe not scum bag but more or a suck up and abuse victim who just wanted the respect he deserved for the work he did
I LOVE ARMADA STARSCREAM!!! 😭😭❤️❤️
spitting straight facts
He And TFOne Megatronus Would Go Along Well
What Starscream needs is a divorce. Why he always go back to Megatron I will never know.
@@TheMoonZone Harley and Joker
@ yeah, that’s exactly what it feel like
Flyers love fusion cannons 😂
Megs pays the bills.
"I am drowning
There is no sign of land
You are coming down with me
Hand in unlovable hand
And I hope you die
I hope we both die"
-excerpt from No Children, the song I presume Megs and Starscream played as their first dance
He's never done anything wrong guys I swear trust me he's innocent
So how much is screamer paying you?
@@deanastephensosborne5604 he being held hostage
@@StuartLegomanLittle he already got turned half machine by starscream
He's just a little guy! A little birthday boy! Why is everyone beefing with a little birthday boy?
@denifnaf5874 I knew he was a bot.
;)
“ Why? That's what they all asked me. Why him... why Starscream? Why, of all the Decepticons, did I decide to revitalize the one whose record of deceit and betrayal is legend? Because I'm an idiot, that's why! ” -Megatron
Did Optimus say so something along the lines of "I wish someone was recording that"?
What was that from?
It sounds familiar but can't place it.
@@JackKarrde1 The G2 comic.
It's my favorite dialog of that comic.
Personal TFA theory: Slipstream's personality is supposed to be Starscream's traitorousness. Think about it: without his ego and cowardice, Starscream could have managed to keep command of the Decepticons, or at the very least avoided execution afterwards. She betrayed Scream, and the canceled season was going to have her betray Megs. She even betrayed her other clones' gender.
There's a reason why Starscream is a synonym for traitor instead of Benedict Arnold.
The starscream abuse when he was trying to keep the cons together with megatron gone was dumb
He genuinely tried his best
The Autobots owe this man a medal, few can say they've foiled as many of Megatron's plans as him!
I think that there’s a fan art of Optimus Prime giving the Autobots’ most successful deep cover saboteur a medal for foiling Megatron’s plans across several millennia-it was Starscream.
@@XenobearsThat's interesting. I'd like to see that
This is Gold, thank you for reminding me the beauty and insanity of G1-G2 comics
Wow thank you very much!
They have to make another starscream just how they did in armada, it was so refreshing and different instead of the predictable backstabber we know him to be
Its crazy taht starscream is older than megatron in transformers one
Starscream is my favorite transformer and his personality is one of my favorite villain archetypes
Interesting fact the definition of the trope right hand trying to take power from the big bad is The Starscream they literally named a trope after him.
I scream, you scream, we all scream for STARSCREAM
A transformers series or movie without starscream is one that i refuse to watch
We love the dorito
Starscream is my absolute favourite Transformers character, and I really don’t think people understand how evil he truly is. The fandom often treats him as just simply annoying and pathetic, and while both of those statements are very true, he is not a helpless little sod. He’s quite literally a genocidal war criminal (to be fair though, most of the Transformers are) who only feels bad when it’s gotten him into trouble. But Armada and SG Starscream are the exceptions to this
Hi dude how are you doing today
Connecting Unicron's head would've made him the ultimate head master.
43:30
*this is your fault starscream*
Just sounds like a disappointed dad
My favorite immortal rat bastard jet plane
Oh, Starscream. We love to hate you. (Well, some of us do.)
Wrong. I love to love him
Don’t forget the time that he tried to become the Queen of England.
Uh… *what?*
I would normally balk at something like this, but this IS Starscream we're talking about.
I have been binge watching this channel and others like it for Transformers lore in general and a summary of the long running IDW Transformers continuity.
I doubt I will ever read the whole IDW series beginning to end, but there are a few I wouldn't mind reading for myself.
......
You kinda have to wonder how Starscream couldn't figure out that the Decepticons wouldn't respect his leadership when there is an accepted mentality that the strong should rule over the weak.
He's not a weakling, but he certainly isn't the strongest in terms of brute force.
I suppose we could attribute this to his massive ego and short sightedness.
His ego makes him forget and/or ignore all of his weaknesses.
Say it with me boys.
All Hail Starscream!
I CAN'T HEEEEAAAARRR YOU!!!!
ALL HAIL STARSCREAM!
All Hail Starscream
@@SaxophoneMan911 ONE MORE TIME!!!!!!!!
All hail starscream
Over a whole hour about my favorite sycophantic twink, it doesn’t get better than this
Bro your an inspiration to me and my life so please keep up the good work and keep spreading the crazy and tf vibes all around ok
Just got fired from my job yesterday and I saw you dropping this today and I was like wth I've gotta watch this
So thanks bro you've really done a lot👌✨
I always thought it was cool how Megatron appears from the flames and offers a hand to starscream, nice little throwback to armada when he’s encountered by wheeljack
Just give me a loyal Armada-ish Starscream in the future
Star scream in Earthspark season two feels so wrong because there’s a completely different writing staff.
He clearly wouldn't harm Mandroid until then.
Starscream is the cockroach of the transformers aus
I was never a huge fan of starscream before I read idw, it made him one of my favorite characters ever and I hold an almost unrivaled love for him now.
A warrior, a physicist, a planner but not a good schemer
And while he is a good warrior, he's hanging out with great warriors.
@jesusromanpadro3853 not even that, it's been shown time and again that starscream has the capacity of defeating practically any character from Optimis to Megatron and has several times reached into the realm of the gods...with the caviot of him only showing this when he isn't working for Megatron or the Decepticon throne
@@ZeanG_ hi dude how are you
SPOILER: 41:38
Megsy gave tf1 sentinel the bayverse jazz treatment
SHES GOT HER BAGUETTE!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
18:03 it is cannon in the transformers universe that starscream likes cuddles…..huh
In Earthspark, personally his betrayal in season two, and overall his characterization, feels like a retcon. It doesn't help that the first season's writers were changed because of the writers' strike. Overall, no one liked this betrayal because it goes against the first season's message that everyone, including Decepticons, deserves a second chance.
But now this theme of redemption is thrown to the trash when the only one who redeemed himself is Megatron, and he redeemed himself before the events of the show, so it doesn't count! It's unfair that he's the only one to be redeemed when all the other decepticons could too! I don't even want to know what these writers will do with Tarantulas if they even think about bringing him back!
“He’s been an anime girl, he’s been a monkey”
I would’ve added: “He’s been a dorito!”
I can't stop watching this one. You bring your usual animated, slapstick, silly humor, and amplify it sixfold. So glad I found your channel, my dude.
Really puts the DECEPTI in decepticon
0:23 my brain did a hard reset there
i love starscream sm, he did absolutely nothing wrong in my mind he's just a silly guy
The title sums up Starscream very well. Even Jesus would look at him and go "I'd feel better if you were standing in front of me."
Hey, hey.
Cut him some slack!
Judas may have been a plan by Death and Jesus.
Does this count as a Halloween special because sometimes starscreams a ghost?
Starscream is one of three things at any time: Usurper, tragic amazing character, gay twink
Prime starscream built like a stripper
Fools ask if Starscream is competent or an idiot. The answer is both. Simulatiously.
Starscream IS everything everywhere all at once.
TwinkScream
One of my favourite Starscream betrayals that didn't get mentioned here - Transformers: Decepticons for the Nintendo DS.
In this retelling of the 2007 movie story, Starscream attempted to take command of the Decepticons after Megatron disappeared in pursuit of the Allspark, pronouncing the old leader dead and a traitor. He sent an agent to Earth - the player's own custom character - to enforce his rule over the Decepticons, and to help him locate the Allspark. However, this agent soon learned from Barricade and the other Decepticons on Earth that Megatron was alive, just encased in ice - so Starscream pressured them into killing him while he's vulnerable. The agent went against him, though, opting to free Megatron from his icy prison. And just in time, because while all that was happening, Starscream nabbed the Allspark from Bumblebee and went on a rampage. The Decepticons banded together to try and stop him, and he had every one of them killed just to hold on to his position. It all came down to a final battle, where his former agent managed to wrestle the Allspark out of his hands, but not without sustaining heavy battle damage. Before Starscream could finish them off and reclaim the Allspark, though, an angry Megatron arrived on the scene. He did battle with Starscream, chasing him through the skies, and ultimately gave the backstabber his just desserts.
Starscream is proof that everyone deserves a 102nd chance
im loving this series, shockwave's deeds being comparable to the devil and now starscream as judas, whats next?
You can't keep getting away with these video titles 😭
Have you done a video on either Titans, Pretenders, or the triple/multi-changer? Bots that were science experiments gone crazy? Great video, by the way!
36:51 And then Bee proceeded to use is passive rizz to rizz up Windblade, making Starscream single
SHADOW WIZARD MONEY GANG, WE LOVE CASTING SPELLS!!! 1:06:04
I really like star scream, he is very much one of my favourite decepticorn (mainly the aligned star scream since I forgot the name), the man is a manipulator and is only kept around due to having a somewhat useful, I just love that war criminal.
to be fair I feel starscream in most of his depictions would kill it in a greek tragedy or a political thriller. His main problem is unlike us squishy meatbags, he's trying to beat a more powerful robot when their both at least 3 stories tall and an anti tank gun is a revolver to them
Some of the artwork from the Marvel comics is absolute nightmare fuel.
41:35 "Lets just put it that way"
**Cuts to Megraton/D-16 Performing a fuckin' Mortal Kombat fatality on Sentinel**
In my school vr game Goalius does know of 1 betrayal that lead to the Liberation of the planet Titan 4 (When he was alive he allined himself with the Atomatons and The Astro Toilets but after finding out that 1 of the Astro Toilets targets was Goalius who was trained by Megatronus Prime so he got the forces to lose there grip on the planet so The Helldivers can liberated)
Gilthor is a very underrated Transformers concept. He was made by the Quintessons, so he's an official Transformer. He could be another Bizarro type character for Optimus and the other Transformers. I say another because people say Toxitron is a Bizarro type character. But Gilthor could be like present Bizarro in the DC comics. Unknown what to do because all they know is conflict and trying to find a place.
I wish starscream faught more decepticons to show why hes 2nd in command. Cuz he often gets beat up.
" He kicked Ravage like he was kicking a field goal!" He would later figure out that that was a terrible choice to make.
This video really shows the cycling playbook of everyone's favorite backstabber. Also shows why no-one should ever count him out, or ignore him; as one of those slot machine responses is always giant overpowered destroy everything monster. Someday, in some universe, he is gonna hit jackpot and everything is going to die. That's why he keeps going.
Starscream the Betrayer becomes ambassador of peace with the walking war crime, user of the Geneva Suggestion, Shockwave. What is regeneration 1? I need to read it!!!
Megatron: scratches his finger.
Starscream: megatron has injured himself and cannot command anymore, i will now lead the decepticons!
17:35 Learning about Octane and his "work" was funny enough, but hearing Megatron order Starscream to basically get laid, made me giggle like an idiot. Good ol Japan lmao.
WTF manga/comic is this even from? I thought Transformers was about good robots fighting morally dubious robots who are sometimes good or just worse than Hitler.
@Niall_Woods this one is from one of the Japanese comics,
@ Still WTF?! Is it not like a kids series? I know there’s the darker comics and stuff, but isn’t that the original art style?
@Niall_Woods nope, it's technically not just for kids, there are different variations of the story, some more mature than others.
Basically Sayori's human thoughts.
The last thing I thought I’d see would be a DDLC reference on a transformers video, but here we are, and I’m all for it.
@@gigamontygolfer haha
@@gigamontygolfer Megs is Moni, Screamer's Sayo, Shockwave is Yuyu, Nat and Soundwave are together too.
@@connorphipps8377 Shockwave is insane but NOT like Yuri is tho
@@Heisenburger1050 They're also both on the more logical side of problem-solving.
Starscream is the greatest Autobot. He has foiled more Decepticon plans than any other single Transformer.
1 hour video about Starscream commiting war crimes? Don't mind if I do. Several times.
i thought i was subscribed cuz i watch your videos all the time. keep doing the reminders it got me.
First to like it W
Thank you
Baby Starscream when Baby Megatron falls asleep first at naptime: "Megatron has fallen, I am the leader of the Decepticons now! Honk shoo honk shoo..."
"Damn that Starscream! How dare he betray me!"
Megatron: "First time?"
Man, I didn’t even do anything.
For my fellow men of culture, the Octane photo shoot takes place in Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 57. The one "featured" in it is Trickdiamond, not Lunaclub. You're welcome.
But he WAS forced into a video with Lunaclub. It didn't sell well, so they forced Trickdiamond into doing another one.
All hail star scream!!!!!!
I don't know but I want to see Starscream become the leader of the Decepticons only for someone like Soundwave to rip him apart because on how much he sucks at the position.
Skybound comics, especially the ripped apart bit.
The way you say "Quin-tes-sons" gives me major ick 😅
Just like how Optimus used to be the arisen, I think Starscream might’ve been liege, Maximo
3:31 had me laughing lol
HES BEEN A WHAT?? An anime girl of all things is a concept im terrified of
Fun video keep up the good work and remember jesus loves you all god bless never test the lord
Lore of There's Judas. Then there's STARSCREAM (All of starscreams BETRAYALS) momentum 100
This made me unspeakably happy.
Ok he might be more evil than I thought
I never want to hear the words "oil" and "party" in the same sentence ever again
The supervillian alert is great😂❤
New MNP vid, let's GO!
Did we just completely forget about Transformers Energon, Armada, and Cybertron?
You got the source of that Lunaclub comic?
Where can someone find these comics where all these different stories happen? I've only known the G1 show and movies...missing out on soooooooooooooo much.
What were Thundercracker and Skywarp guilty of, though?
Specifically?
17:35 Pornography has already breached our defenses.
Ah yes the Mazinger the legend, the ultimate, the greatest, and the one that started the mech genre Mazinger and Koji Ibuki, Gunbuster, Gaogaigar, and the one and only Gundam took over and the rest is history.
15:33 While Starscream just hawk tuah another body?!?!
Starscream betrayal video = 1+ betrayal per minute
4:25 ah yes the Cosmically-powered Starscream good thing he was Offline afterward...... kind of.
When was Beast Wars II connected to the Unicron Trilogy?!?!?!?!