It Wasn't YouTube's Fault, It Was Adblock's Fault...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at what appears to be a scenario showcasing how TH-cam was apparently slowing down for users who had an adblocker enabled. It turns out it was more on the actual extension than any underlying code that's been pushed out. Thanks for watching!
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I got an idea. If TH-cam wants to make money, they start charging the content creator for extra hours of storage they eat up per month.
As someone said in the comments, it doesn't matter how bad TH-cam does for ad unit users. It will never be as bad as having to deal with all the terrible ads shoved down our throats.
@@courtykat I wouldn't mind that much if they weren't 2 2 minute unskippable ads in a row that were both trying to sell me on gambling bullshit or eating a fried egg inside of an avacado to become 4000 years younger and immortal because that's definitely not a fucking scam.
just repetitive and intrusive, especially if it's under some of those data brokers, that's what they do
Yeah they don't seem to understand that the small handful of seconds of nothing is preferable to half a minute on average of whatever scam/garbage is being shown to kids to get their parents' money
If you're adamant on slowing down the site to get me to watch those damn ads, go fuckin big! Make me think either Spectrum/CenturyLink's acting up again or that TH-cam's servers are down! You're still not gonna get anywhere cause that's not the correct solution but at least I COULD save some time just watching the ads!
@@lordmarshmal_0643 The ads on TH-cam violate their own TOS.. I mean I could put a essay the size of the bible on how horrible and hypocritical/bigoted TH-cam is but I'll just say they're hypocritical 100% instead.
@Koopyspappy It's easier and more profitable to be evil. why change?
If google gets to steal my data then I should have the right to block their ads.
Don’t use google…
@@chukwu_9guess who owns youtube
@@rishiy6183omg is it Ubisoft?
@@rishiy6183ubisoft!
They don't steal your data. You agree to their terms when you create an account and accept their conditions by making an account.
What you should be doing is running a DNS sinkhole that blocks Google telemetry DNS addresses, running a VPN, adblock, and not signing into an account. Obviously there's more you can do but this is just the system
I can still blame TH-cam for trying to force scams on people and calling it advertising, thus making the ad block a necessity.
Thiss
Id rather look at a black screen for 30sec then watch a 30sec ad
@@SuperLifestream theres an extension that plays the video preview until the ad is over or it auto skips
Yes, I understand the growing scam advertisements is n issue... but I think it is important to remember what youtube offers as a service. They let anyone, anywhere upload one of the largest file formats (in terms of raw memory) an unlimited amount of times. They also then let anyone, anywhere stream those videos an unlimited amount of times.
That's not cheap, especially in 2005 when TH-cam started. TH-cam is a private company... they need to make money to sustain themselves. You could argue that maybe online video sharing is a necessity now and should be funded by the government, but do you really want the government to own youtube? Product decisions would be terrible, privacy would go down the drain, and the products quality would gradually diminish. Well then you could argue maybe TH-cam should be a non-profit, but is this really what we want billions of dollars from google poured into for a non-profit? That money would be better spent solving more pressing issues. So that leaves us with what we have now.
I understand that ads are annoying... but I also understand what TH-cam is providing for next to no cost from the consumer.
TH-cam can do this because they have a monopoly on this type of entertainment and we are forced to use it even though there are alternatives already :(
Funny how they work around it by increasing ADs per minute and higher paywall subscriptions. All this does is punish the people who don't have AD blockers and make them inclined to get the extensions too.
If they just lowered the price they would get more subs, problem solved.
Yup. 🥲🥲
Ad blockers dominating TH-cam is a self fulling prophecy.
They don't want to sell ads, they want to sell TH-cam premium
@@Raidoven unfortunately for them they’re driving people to get ad blockers
I'd be more inclined to watch ads if 90% of TH-cam's ads werent SCAMS. Its annoying, especially with the AI usage of celebrity voices for "amazing products to lose weight or get money". Its insane.
" the government wants to keep you from knowing that you can get a 6500 dollar check without medicaid and food stamps"- AI Steve Harvey.
I wtach youtube on my iphone or ipad on brave browser no more ads 😅
@@lordizzy666 Lmao. I've heard Dwayne Johnson a few times with that same shit.
@@lordizzy666I keep getting Rock and Oprah
Hey,looks like MrBeast wants to give me $500 yet again!
The "record uninstalls" of adblockers was bs because it was people uninstalling adblock (and plus) and installing ublock origin, so yes, there was a lot of uninstalling, but only because they were installing another one. The overall users of adblocking extensions remained the same.
and of course theres always the uninstall/reinstall might fix it crowd :D
Can't believe the amount this still use that and not Ublock Origin
@@Che1seabluesdrogba11 for real people always complain about their adblocker not working on YT or Twitch. Been using this for YEAAAAARRS and zero issues still
That's just something you made up, you have no data to confirm that, and the install of ublock origin doesnt account for even 20% of the people disinstalling adblocks
@@AlbertoTuber to be fair though, ublock origin as things are right now is better than adblock/plus. while my cpu does spike from 2-5% utilization on ublock/adblock up to 10-12% at least ublock doesnt "snag on the ads" and just plays the vid as normal.
It's wild that TH-cam would rather fight with their users that use adblock instead of dealing with the malicious ads.
No it's not. Think, 1 single developer coming up with some clever code to block or annoy users in an afternoon or two, verses dozens of customer support representative who would have to comb through every ad that's being registered to the site daily forever. Monetarily speaking, it's YOUR idea that's wild.... but of course I do understand your position.
@@ShadowGirl- Not really when you take into account the way TH-cam has handled ads and ad blockers just drives more people to use ad blockers. If they'd leave ad blockers alone and focus on having quality control on the ads they allow on TH-cam then less people would be getting ad blockers.
@@theredhood2796 How many ad block users have ever stopped using it?
If youtube had more 'vigilance' and quality control over its ads, then it would be okay and i probably would noy use an adblocker, i remember youtube in the old days when ads were actually subtle, and a bit enjoyable @@ShadowGirl-
ikr why can't they just push more ads onto people who don't use it instead of annoying us elite users 😂
I wouldn't need an adblocker on this site if the state of ads here wasn't so abysmal.
So, in a way, it remains TH-cam's fault. The fact a large sum of people assumed the slow down was their doing is a pretty good indicator of TH-cam's current reputation.
Even then adblockers are necessary for security anyways most viruses can be obtained are from programs and adds
Yeah. All I seem to get in regards to ads are obvious scams and viruses.
I miss the days of 1 ad
I know right.. a lot of the ads on the main screen on YT (those "fake" videos in your recommendd) are mostly just NFT scams or crypto scams.
I swear i have seen the fake mr beast one a billion times, and the "i used AI to earn money with crypto" or some shit.
Pretty much, and the real issue is that TH-cam isn't trying to extend the olive branch and reach a middle ground for more people to allow ads into videos, they are strong arming people who don't want the annoyances of commercials in their videos into paying for the service of purging it.
But we all know the Streisand Effect by this point.
Small companies: *tries to lure in customers by constantly improving own service*
Google: *blackmails customers by locking functions that used to be available behind a paywall while actively worsening the service to justify price increases just for the user to keep it as it used to be.*
id probably do the same, no youtube rivals; no people to migrate to
thats the modern tech company. startups go through a huge growth phase being super generous to their users to gain leverage on the industry, but they arent usually profitable. they sell to a big company and now that company is focused on turning that business into a profitable one.
Large corporations can afford to be crooked, small corporations/businesses cannot
@@real.jimmy23yep, the moment a company makes a monopoly, they can just stop caring and gouge and make things crappier and crappier while demanding money. Where are you going to go otherwise?.
No one was trying to block ads when you got one 5 second ad every 10 minutes... It was when they changed it to 2, and then 3 that people started to get annoyed enough to look into stopping it.
Instead of going to all this bizarre effort, all they need to do is just drop back in quantity, and people would stop using adblockers on TH-cam.
Its becaue youtube is always a money drain, a money incinerator thats why they increased the ads in the first place
That's true but they would never drop the quantity because it would be a giant loss in profit
Don't forget... there's 44 HOUR ads too if you're not paying attention. MFs really pushing it
@@hirotakasugi4891nothing makes me more mad then falling asleep to a podcast and waking up to a 4 hour long podcast ad thats just their entire podcast
I started blocking ads when Uber Eats came to town, and suddenly for two months 99% of ads (all except for 5, I counted) were UE ads. Ads started appearing every video and all midrolls instead of every other video and being more lenient with scrubbing. And they all used that already overused royalty free music that just frustrated me to no end.
I never used to have a problem with youtube ads way back in the day when it was just a banner ad and a 5 second video. They ads now are way too invasive and overall make the experience so much worse. I understand your problem with the malicious ads, and while I agree with that premise, I don't think that is most people's main concern. The ads are too invasive and overwhelming and make using the site unusable without ad blocker. I absolutely despise using my phone to watch youtube videos for this exact reason
I hardly care what the ads are for, I'm not buying the shit regardless. I just want it to go away as fast as possible so I can watch the thing I came to see. At this point I just watch on my phone and use a modded APK that removes them, I refuse to endure ads just to enjoy watching on my TV. Once they started stacking multiple ads and forcing midroll ads super often I just refuse to watch them at all. I'd sooner stop watching TH-cam than pay those bastards not to bombard me with advertising. I'd probably just go outside more and be generally happier anyways
I wouldn't even mind two or three ads more per video if they were that short. The unskippable 20sec ads are just horrendous and appear in the worst spots generally
some of the ads are borderline earrape too, like im listening to something with high volume because the video is quiet and then suddenly i get fucked in my ear by an annoying ass ad
@captainjoy8976 The worst I've seen recently are 2 minutes "skippable" ads... That when skipped moved on to a _second_ ad.
Skipping a 1/2 ad used to mean skipping both ads, not just the first one.
ReVanced is your friend, I only use my phone to watch yt because of it
as ive said on a few other videos regarding this. i was perfectly fine when TH-cam gave me a skip ad button for all the ads they gave me. but it started to piss me off and actually annoy me when they started to
- show 2 ads per ad segment, most of the time without the ability to skip the ad
- showing ads for things ive never ever searched for in my life, such as stupid drug ads
- started showing porn ads (yes this has happened to me)
because of those 3 things, i then started using an ad block
If they didn't start putting "Hot MILFs in your area" all over TH-cam while making content creators wait to say any kind of profanity while also banning words like that outright from monetization, especially on videos geared towards children, then some of us wouldn't have to use an ad blocker in the first place.
Weird, I don't see that kind of ads here in YT. Wtf is wrong with your algorithm or are you lying?
@@theunknown7441 If you block most trackers/cookies, and opt out of tailored ad's, then you mostly get the dregs. I've had MrBeast scams, every conceivable religion based dating website, adverts in foreign languages, or just from abroad, churches, mobile game scams. Though the worst of all is every video had a fricken TEMU ad with its stupid friken jingle.
@@theunknown7441I mostly watch documentaries like this on yt and had gotten some ads like that, but I mostly get scam advertisements, which is still against tos. It’s annoying when you can’t skip
Bruh. If you paid for yt, they'd get paid even if they DID say bad words. Because they get paid even when ads get taken off, which is what happens. So maybe you're at fault for all the censorship
We gotta protect the youth from the f word, not the sex ads and the scam ads those are perfectly fine
btw I tried going without adblocker for 1-2 weeks when youtube started to crack down on them and it was abysmal. I watch a lot of music videos and I was getting 2 minutes of unskippable ad for a 3-4 minute video. The number of unskippable ads was insane. and yeah they were inappropriate af. I didn't believe people when they said youtube ads had scams and other dubious stuff, but I can't deny that now having personally experienced just how bad they are. also as a side note, it's not the fact that youtube is going hard on ads to cover operation costs, but they want to make a huge profit as a company. I don't buy the poor youtube is a victim and only wants to cover operation costs.
SO many of the ads are for obvious scams, or adult content as well I dont want to see.
Yeah. Poor google the multi-billion dollar corporation cant afford to run the huge platform youtube because people block their ads :(((( like oh noooo do you want me to turn off my adblock? Do you want me to watch your scam ads? Poor google the multi-billion dollar corporation will go bankrupt from adblock being on for 5 minutes apparently
Agree 100% except that I think the problem is that TH-cam is at the point where there just aren't enough advertisers $$$ to scale with the size of the site. So they are getting less and less $$$ per advert shown...
The only time I am rawdogging youtube is while I am using a mobile version. I like to do chores while listening to some long format content, so "skipping" the ad is not always an option as me or my hands are busy, which leads to some ridiculous situations where I have to sit through 2 long ads at the beginning, then hear the sponsored segment put by the creator (which I am totally ok with), and then go through two more ads right after that. It's like 5 minutes of just ads.
@@davidlloyd1526 Yeah but a large part of the problem is also the monetary split with creators, they give them too much. I understand why they don't want to change that because a lot of entitled creators will bitch. But that's not my problem, it's youtubes.
You're very right that it's not a "luxury" thing for most people. On other sites it's for safety, but on TH-cam I feel the reason most people use adblock is because if you don't, you get ads ALL. THE. TIME. Because as I understand it, the more people use adblock, the more YT will push the remaining ad spots on those who are not using it. So they get bombarded by ads every 2 minutes, when you pause, when you open another tab, etc, making watching anything more a drag than entertaining. There is no option other than get adblock. So I'd say it's still TH-cam's fault. If they want people to give up on adblockers, they should reward people not using them, not punish them.
While I agree with that sentiment, that would be impossible to happen. Providing a better service at this point won't make people disable adblockers. And doing so would cost Google money.
@@Spiritnick I mean probably, yeah. Though I do believe a lot of people would be willing to give up Adblock in regards to TH-cam, to support the creators they like and whatnot. Personally spent a very long time with YT whitelisted, until they just started shoving the ads down your throat. I don't mind the occasional ad, but when it's genuinely so bad you spent 1/3 of the vid's playtime watching fucking ads, or having to watch 2 x 30s ads to see a 16s clip, it goes a bit too far, y'know?
The biggest reason I started to use an adblocker was because I was tired of seeing inappropriate ads on websites where I didn't want to see inappropriate ads, such as TH-cam, and I'm in public (such as in class or my campus dining hall) where those ads are especially inappropriate.
Wondering, could say what type of inappropriate ads were shown to you?
@@jamarplunkett3283 I can give you some examples. TH-cam has been advertising drugs. If you look up any kind of weed related stuff even stuff for safety when consuming it. They will constantly give you ads for edibles. Some of them are extremely annoying and bleep out the word cannabis. frankly this would be annoying in a professional setting. I have also seen ads that always use scantily clad women. This would also be annoying to deal with. I think because they can’t put ads in here that are decent and safe for work they should at least put a safer work filter over the ads or take out all the ads like this when we click a button. Also I listen to one anime video and now my ads are full of Weeb shit. This is also annoying.
@jamarplunkett3283 not trying to speak for the original commentor but I get ads of big busty anime girls and when those type of ads show up they enlarge the video to like 3:4 so makes it really embarrassing to have in public. Sometimes I get ads for ai girlfriends too
@@dianadooby thanks for the help👍 a quick follow up, how much of the ads that you watched were inappropriate? Just a basic estimate out of a hundred. That would be helpful😁
funny story i was talking to my mom about wifi while scrolling my phone and i saw one of those ads almost said waifu instead of wifi
Whenever I open TH-cam on my phone I'm immediately shown why I have an adblocker.
i feel like youtube mobile has a lot less adds than when i use youtube on pc without ad blocker. probably because mobile retention rate is lower. the absolute worst is trying to use the youtube app on any tv though.
That's what ReVanced and NewPipe are for :P
@@A-wy5zm revanced*
People don't talk enough about the scam ads from TH-cam. The inconvenience of the way ads are served is one thing but the amount of ongoing scams seen on both youtube and google is astounding. If you combine the complexity of scams nowadays and the fact that many impressible people and children use both sites, it's insane how they take zero responsibility, and somehow haven't gotten sued yet, yet are still preaching about not using adblock.
i love making a platform worse instead of offering new better features
Or actually taking action against the amount of scam ads on the site. Until they deal with that, the adblock stays on
the money printer wouldn't work if they focused on new features
making it worse for you, but you aren't their customer, the advertisers are
The money printer that hasnt made any profit @@RealJonzuk
Right? They seem absolutely dead set on following that path. To a certain degree it's absolutely understandable and necessary but there's a fine line and definitely a point where you have to STOP FUCKING WITH THE PRODUCT. It's so incredibly rare for a company to actually try and follow that rule, and it's almost always for the same reason regardless of the business. It's a handful of people and their willingness to "sell out" to someone else, which fills their pockets, makes the product worse (and usually signs the death warrant of said product), and screws the actual consumers.
I would honestly be glad to stop blocking ads if they went back to the old system where it showed the ad in a small tab at the top or bottom of the video and wasn't obtrusive and DIDN'T STOP THE ENTIRE VIDEO FOR MULTIPLE MINUTES OF UNSKIPPABLE ADS!
At this point I think the ads are just means to push the user into paying premium. One time an ad in the middle of a video interested me, I thought "Oh I will check that later", skipped it, checked if the ad link was still available under the video, and went back to the video.... Then the an ad at the end of video started playing, I paused it and went to grab the link for the ad that actually interested me, and it was gone, replaced by the end of video ad...
What's the point of showing an ad if the user cannot refer back to it to convert it into a sale? My only guess is that they only want to sell premium, advertisers be damned.
@@KleyguerthThat is *exactly* why they're doling it; the entire point is to "incentivize" premium... and then they'll do what Amazon did, and put ads into the paid subscription service while offering a higher-cost "ad-free" tier.
Capitalism destroys everything eventually
multiple minutes?? dude you are overexaggerating
@@tonypringles2285 I've seen 2 to 5 minute ads before. NORMALLY you can skip them in 5 seconds. But I did have a ~5 ad recently for some mob selling something to a country I'm not even in in a language that I couldn't understand that was un-skippable. Just the whole "You video will continue after this advert" bullshit button.
Gosh, I was watching a THREE SECOND VIDEO
And guess what? There's AD in it. The creator itself didn't put in there
Sometimes it's abyssmal that they started to put it everywhere, every 2-3 minutes that watching anything isn't enjoyable anymore
Lets all say a thank you to the people who work on the Ad blockers .
So YT thinks people will comply if they're mildly inconvenienced? No. Being invaded by unskippable ads every minute, many being scams, was the final straw.
I’ll just develop an Adblock that intentionally speeds up TH-cam
@Uttp_lolthis guy isn't even trying anymore 😭
his comment got removed, it just said "uttp"
No need to. YT should work fine if you use uBlock Origin. They use a different algorithm to detect the adds.
And turns out any uBlock users who are getting slowed down is because they're using multiple ad blocks at the same time or they leave their browsers builtin adblock (opera's builtin one is basically a copy of AdBlock Plus) enabled.
Finally, the hero we both deserve and need!
legend
@@Xioverzewhat was he saying?
I didn’t mind the ads until they introduced the unskippables, the hour+ long ones, and the multiple unskippables in a row. And then there’s the scam ones, or the generally inappropriate adult content.
Back then I mostly used YT for music, so 3 mins of ads for one song? No thanks.
Adverts suck. Everyone hates them. I just want to watch or listen to stuff in peace. Using the internet without an ad block is like using the train, at peak time, during the pandemic, without a mask. It’s just asking for trouble.
Once, I came across a minute-long ad in a video that lasted a few seconds... this is sucks, right?
No as a few seconds of an ad isn't whats terrible. What is terrible is going to open a 15 minute video and being given an hour long ad that won't allow you to skip till it decides you can. On top of that getting back to back ads. Like just like the user above has said; there are hour long ads and I get them constantly to every degree along with that hour long ad ending just to get going up on a half hour ad immediately after the hour one. How is this not an issue dedicating an hour and a half for ads just for something I wanted to watch for 15 minutes@@Vopyr
@@oddeizenhower4642, I wrote about a video that lasted only a few seconds, but TH-cam still put in an ad, which shocked me... I mean, why do TH-cam put ad in a few seconds video? this is stupid.
Yeah, TH-cam ads are really trashy, they don't want to fight scams, malware, etc, but they want us to turn off blockers... they've lost their minds.
@@Vopyr Do you not have many ads in your area regarding youtube? I dont exactly know how their systems work across countries or states as my area has nothing but these annoying ads. But I will preface it like this; Its fair to use ads from most anyone that needs the revenue but youtubes way of going about having ads has been nothing short of predatory. What started as ad banners on videos or 5 second ads that'd cut in once or twice during a video has now digressed to up to hour long ads that cut in like 6-8 times in a row for a short video that wont anywhere near reach the time the ad takes up.
Its just annoying over and I apologize if I seemed aggressive it confused me how your message was worded as it seemed a little sarcastic
*Insurance Broker* here - the amount of calls I get from people responding to junk TH-cam advertisements about cash cards, trumpcare, is wild. Everyday if not every other hour. These scammers prey on the weak. It's gross
That's what I don't understand.
Isn't youtube legally liable for showing such ads?
If you say something bad in a video you immediately get removed, but apprently ads can do whatever they want
@@BioTheHumanGoodluck getting the federal government involved. If I remember my history correctly. TH-cam disabled the downvote system probably due to companies like Disney. As a side benefit, it was also during the time the White House channel videos were getting mass downvoted as well.
Especially with this administration where there is evidence of them working with the big tech sites to censor people under the guise of "stopping misinformation".
Blocking ads is always morally right
Just for the people who complain about free stuff
@@e-tean-son4146 Im not even using ad block and my feed was suffering too. I could stream Netflix just fucking fine but TH-cam chose to do what they did.
Adblock just happened to find an oversight issue during the chaos and took the fall for TH-cam even though they didn’t have any cause to.
FBI recommends this btw
My only problem is creators’ money
No it isn't. The content creators lose money because of it. Adblock is basically stealing from then
- places ads in videos the creator has turned off ads
- 2 unskippable 15 second ads
- more ads if you didnt skip the first one
- dont even get started on the ads themselves (especially the mobile game ones)
- adblockers are recommended by google in the extension store
- punishes use of adblockers
what the
I really don't want to hear about how much TH-cam costs to run. With the rampant censorship and the refusal to remove channels that actually do things that are an affront to polite society along with their corporate belief that they're "too big to fail", they deserve to be taken down a notch so they can reassess that belief.
You're upset that youtube is censoring too much, and also that it isn't censoring enough?
the average user makes TH-cam roughly $1/mo. Would I pay $3? Sure, but not fucking $15, I'm not lining Alphabet's pockets that much for higher bitrate 1080p
@@dombo813 No, they're clearly taking issue with the fact that the censorship is not being applied appropriately........
@@dombo813youtube is censoring some people for the word f*ck and letting others post litteral CP
@@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies excuse me? youtube has never taken censorship in a correct manner, they always go against political targets, people that are uploading important stuff and memes, but stuff where you see animal abuse, literal child pornography without having sexual intercourse, very extremist videos where ONE party has a pass so they can post whatever comes out of their ass but the other one can't because they always say it's hate speech, misogynistic or racist when none of the videos reported or channels taken down had even a slight clip of ACTUAL content depicted as racist, homophobic, misogynistic or hateful really tells that it was NEVER a balanced platform, always pandering to the left-wing and the first to blame someone or something else BEFORE acknowledging that they got caught lying!
Main reason I don't watch ads (besides them interrupting videos) is that they slow down my browser, sometimes have illicit content, occasionally are very biased socially/politically, but most of all because they can be laced with viruses and cookies.
Homeboy, watching an ad does not give you malware and clicking on a link from an ad that uploads malware to your system is incredibly rare since ads are monitored by the platforms they run on. If you get ads laced with malware then that means you have clicked and interacted with some very, very shady websites in the past for them to target you. That’s entirely your own wrongdoing.
highly doubt thats a thing
@@sudowtfNot saying ads give you malware or anything, but "ads are monitored by the platforms they run on" is very questionable, since I've had actual p * rn (censoring only because youtube likes to shadowban or delete comments... 😒) ads at least twice, and even more "suggestive" ones, all here on TH-cam
There's two different thing between watching an ad and clicking an ad on a pirated game/manga website
An ad video are usually controlled by big companies such as google. At best they are just going to steal your behaviour data. Instead of stealing your credit cards data and ruin your computers
@@unsavourylittlerunt It’s true, though. Ads are monitored and very tightly so. If you get pron in your ads then that means you spend a little too much time adventuring through the 18+ landscape and now those websites/companies are targeting you. Sure, it goes against the guidelines but the big advertisers can not monitor every single ad 24/7.
Next time use incognito mode😉
hey mutahar, it's me guys and gals, and i have to say im so hype for your upcoming pi-hole/raspberry pi adblock/dns server thingy
hopefully it comes out soon as that is a video i am really looking forward to, thank you
Dude, I use AdBlockers and now TH-cam is slow af... but it's still faster than having to deal with ads 🤣
That's the most mind blowing part of this. It's amazing that they think that yt taking an extra five to ten seconds to load is going to do anything at all to deter someone who is frustrated with minutes of ads. It's still a significantly superior experience with an ad blocker with such short delays. They aren't making people less likely to use ad blockers, because it's still a very good solution. All they've done is annoy people and make headlines (ironically, increasing the usage of ad blockers) ; they haven't even come close to making ad blockers "too annoying to be worth using".
Id rather deal with 5 seconds of nothing over 5 seconds of ads. Easy choise
@@ambiarock590 you mean 50 seconds of ads, lol.
@@awesomeferret and 3 more 50 seconds
@@awesomeferret you mean 50 minutes of ads? Because that's how it feels without adblock.
It's always moral to blame Google/TH-cam even when It wasn't there fault
Ok screw TH-cam and all of that but that's a terrible idea.
@Uttp_lolweigh better?
So you are saying it's ultra super hyper massive obesity?
@@falloutthewindowcrazy7608 The bots are talking to each other
Real and true
Normalize slandering massive corporations
why should we normalize lying and spreading misinformation
I definitely agree to what you are saying about Ads with Malware or other malicious intends are one of the big factors why people you adblockers. I am currently writing my Bachlor thesis and I'm interviewing people what methods they use to protect their privacy on the internet. Many people suggested using Adblockers and not just for privacy reasons, but exactly because of the reasons you mentioned
I thought this was obvious. If you have uBO, it shows the number of ads blocked on the webpage at that moment. When the adblock is messed up (TH-cam trying to break the adblock), sometimes you see the number on uBO suddenly go up crazy numbers like 60 every second that it's buffering. That means that uBO is continuing to block the ad _videos_, but failed to block the script attempting to load the ads themselves. This has happened a few times.
I've had this happen too. Even right now, after finishing the video, uBO is showing 83 actually never mind, it's at 91 now. The buffering is making videos nearly unwatchable, but it will never be unwatchable enough for me to stop blocking ads.
I dont use any adblocker but youtube is canceling out the ads for me , the war on ads made the experience worse since my none ad block experience is buffering problems and stutter problems.
Now everything is normal but if i do get an ad it can be that the ad is not showing only after it ended.
thats normal dude, leave a tab open on the homepage all day and it goes up to the thousands@@bluebell560
I rarely turn my machine off, I think my record with the UBO number is easily 12k or some absurdly high number.
As someone that was using adblock on youtube for YEARS, I can attest that the entire site, not just video's, was slowing down. The homepage would take an entire minute for SOME of my subscriptions to load. Opening a video was even worse as the page would start to chug and I mean severely. It would take upwards of 10-20 Seconds for the video player to register that I was clicking the play/pause button, the comment section was basically unusable as each comment would take 5-10 seconds each to load and to top it all off the moment I turned my adblocker off every thing started loading near instantly. Video's started to responded quickly when I wanted to play/pause them and the comments and recommended videos on the side loaded with no trouble anymore.
Basically youtube updated their code, which broke something in the extension engine code that the adblocks were using as a foundation, and it needed updating. No big deal really.
yup its 100% not just buffering to me. it legit makes my entire window laggy, clicking links is laggy and just everything in general even outside of just a vidoe loading.
@@ShadowGirl-that makes a lot of sense
@@Goose8585 thats because it was in an endless CPU loop of compressing and uncompressing some memory items.
the only problem i have is youtubes comment section and having general problems with it, such as failing to post my posts, taking 30 seconds to get itself ready, or just double sometimes triple posting what i said
I have found a hack a few years ago, if you got an ad immediately after clicking on a video (especially if its unskipable) immediately leave the video and click the video again, there is a roughly a 50% chance there will be no ad but sometimes it might take a few tries since it is a 50/50. (This is less effective for pc users but it still saves you alot of time and sometimes exiting and clicking out might take longer than the ad itself but its more entertaining than watching an ad.
The more they try to block adblock, the more I use it.
Not afraid to say I've been using adblockers for as long as I can remember. Every time I'm at one of my friends house and I see all the ads on YT and the pages they visit I think to myself I couldn't live with this amount of crap being shoved in my face all day every day, it honestly changes the experience a lot imo. I understand it costs Google a ton to maintain the service but that's honestly not my problem nor do I feel sad for them lol. If you really like a creator and you feel like supporting them you could always support them more directly.
Exactly, I'll block every last ad I can but I'll give creators $2 a month on patreon. I wish a big platform like this could be communally hosted and maintained so the user experience wasn't left in the hands of a greedy corporation. The need to turn ever growing profits is actively detrimental and antithetical to the pursuit of providing a quality user experience. Imagine a pay what you can subscription model where the remaining money is divided amongst content creators based on view count after covering operational costs. I won't pay for premium, but $1-2 a month knowing most of it is doing towards content creators would be absolutely worth it imo. Most people would just pay a dollar, but you'd get 50 times the number of subscriptions premium has.
@@maxmfpayne In my opinion creators need to start moving away more from these big platforms. I dont mean they need to ditch YT completely but I think some creators are big enough they could host their content themselves and people would still watch them. Or we need to go to a system thats like RSS feeds but for videos, you add your favourite creators to the list and get updates on everything they post. Cut out big tech.
so long as TH-cam continues to promote scams and ignore serious problems in the community I will always block ads, if they dont support the community then the community shouldn't support them
The moment I noticed TH-cam was struggling, I started raging at my computer, wondering why it was making it difficult to watch videos and emitting unusually high vent sounds. Needless to say, when I heard about this controversy, I had to profusely apologize and promised I would never doubt the performance of my computer ever again. It doesn't deserve it.
Same, I was getting giga mad when my baby had no faults of his own, shame on me
@@danielgalbusera944 So relatable. I'm happy knowing I'm not the only one who refers to their computer as 'my baby', because that's exactly how I envision it, as my child. And yes, shame on my as well for doubting.
This legitimately just happened to me. I was so confused why my computer was acting like it was under so much load. My CPU was damaged over time and was telling me it was at 98/99Celsius. Chrome CPU use was crazy and my fans couldn't do anything about it, and I had let it go on so long that i'm now waiting on a replacement cpu ):
@@MissRouxhow tf you so lonely you have a relationship with your computer?
@@Vide501It's more like a pirate ship. You take care of "her" because she's yours and let's you sail the ocean blue, right? Same with a computer
For their web browser using that much CPU. It looks like they have 50 tabs open.
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I have literally thousands of tabs open and my cpu is doing fine. Browsers are good at caching their data instead of keeping it all loaded at once!
@@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies More specifically, the tabs aren't actually all open at once - they are suspended, and load when you click them.
my cpu: i7 8700k 3.70GHz basespeed was at 100% while only having 1 tab of youtube open
ahahaha
>firefox with 1200 tabs open, most of which questionable, the others mainly mods
>After a little screw up losing me thousands of tabs
Suspended yes
I’m glad they add important thing like this, also including the new white glow at the bottom in the recommended on mobile, we all totally needed and wanted that.
Unfortunately for youtube I come from a time when youtube would only be experienced in 240p or 144p where I would wait 5 min to load the video before actually sitting down and watching it. These stutters and mishaps are just that, a minor inconvenience.
Exactlyyyy lol we were already in the trenches before we can be in them again
The thing is, ads are getting worse by the day and YT doesn’t seem to recognize that people are getting sick of the insufferable amount of ads on every video. And paying a premium just to not see ads is ludicrously idiotic.
i hate the “they dont seem to know” my NINJA they live and breathe by ads, if they didnt have ads theyd be fucked; they want to push ads and more add. its money in their pocket
@@TiL_Deimos”my ninja” ??
Premium is worth it just because u get yt music as well. So for a little more than the price of Spotify I get no ads in vids and for music.
@@cammongo3525n word for white people or some shit
@@lifeboat6284i get the reference but in what way are ninjas ever associated with white people
So here's the thing about YT ads, and I see this happening on the PS4 all the time. You're watching a video, it gets interrupted for a 10s ad, and the video continues. No problem, though even that's becoming an issue because now they're running up to 30s unskippable and way too often. If that was all it was, I'd turn off adblocker for YT on the PC. But that isn't what happens at all. Instead, you're watching a video, it gets interrupted for an ad, but if you don't click that Skip button, the ad will continue for 5 minutes. The sheer arrogance of it, creating ads of that length, forcing people to constantly interact with the platform. I'm pretty sure I've seen even longer ads, much longer ones, like they're an video in their own right. Plus, some of them are so freaking unacceptable in their content that I feel we need legislation to control them.
Maybe if You Tube didn't allow scam ads popping up %80 of the time then maybe people wouldn't be using ad blockers. Get your house in order You Tube before demanding people get theirs in order.
As someone who doesn't use adblock it is nowhere near as bad as people keep claiming.
@@andrewgreenwood9068 Yes it is, everyone has different ad profiles, you never have 2 or 3 scam ads, you either have 1 once in a blue moon, or every other ad is a scam for you, so you are the lucky one here
@@andrewgreenwood9068yea before my brother got TH-cam premium for the whole family I would get me.beast scam ads filling my phone screen every time.
@@sinnerthesinful552 You could turn on tailored ads and get ads more relevant to your interests, but most people don't like sharing their data, understandably.
yeah but it should not be the case that you need to share data to not receive scam ads.
@@hazim_izzat
i hate that we live in a world where ads are what brings in money and now being shoved down our throats everyday. I believe that if its not checked, they will HAPPILY make us watch an ad to get out of bed, start the coffee machine, start our cars, EVERYTHING. Soon our lives will be 70% working, 20% Ads and a measly 10% of actually doing stuff
I HATE MODERN DAY
That was a Black Mirror episode and the dude literally went crazy.
Based truth recognizer
Already ads on the gas pumps this is how it ends
a great reason to AVOID all "smart" stuff, you still need your phone but everything else DOES NOT NEED TO BE A FUCKING SPYING DEVICE!
An issue I often have with ads is how they can really be distasteful depending on the type of content. For example, watching a news segment about something tragic where people have suffered and died but suddenly there is an advert that's all excitement and upbeat music which feels disrespectful almost to the real life tragedy I was learning about.
Adverts for gambling when watching documentaries about how drug addictions have destroyed lives and communities is another one.
TH-cam has no quality control over the advertisements they allow on the platform, and there are endless examples of inappropriate and outright criminal adverts being run on the platform as mentioned.
How DARE you skips ads on our site??!!
Average Internet User: Because my time is precious time. So it would be better to pay us for the ads
Yeah, just let me use your online video service that requires a lot of servers to operate for free without having to see any ads!
@@ZaitroSilaume: because I rather not give my computer digital aids
@@Unapologeticweeb XD
@@solrininI already give them my data to sell, if ads were about 5-10 seconds max and every three videos or more I wouldn't care. The double ad preroll, midroll, and at the end of the video can screw off.
Golden days of youtube is when ads were not even on the site to begin with
That's basically every company on the Internet. For example - Facebook didn't have ads in the early days or chat gpt right now. No one wants to pay and also wants ad free experience
@@RealShaktimaan yes, but what if we could make youtube servers and its employees run on air?
I don’t mind the ads on principle:) I appreciate that my favourite TH-camrs can make money doing this. They just are low quality (scams) and longer unskipable 😬
I got an ad from youtube asking uf I think youtube ads were valid. I would loved to see those abysmal numbers.
Another reason why I always keep an adblocker enabled on any page I visit, is also from experience with certain websites where some ad providers seized the chance to add a JS script in their ad snippet to get you *out* of the page you visit for some obviously shady scam page. That was years ago on rather sizeable sites (I remember Fandom, ex-Wikia, was one of them), and thankfully that is no longer happen. So the latter point you mentioned about adblockers being an extra layer of security when browsing, not just to remove pesky ads on a page, is something I completely relate to. And I suppose ads on TH-cam are now made in such a way they do not have their dedicated s and instead are a video playing out in their video player... But the amount of things advertisers can get away with compared to a regular content creator on TH-cam (unless you are a massive one with an 8-digit subscriber count), is enough for me to distrust that it would not happen in the future on TH-cam, even if the prospect of such an incident would be ridiculous. Back then, it could get me out of my page. What more control could it have over my page (account data, browsing habits...) if it happened here... Call me paranoid, but we are never too safe when browsing online.
At this point I have three constantly enabled just encase TH-cam finds a way to block one the others still work.
Fr, especially video servers such as MegaCloud inject way too many overlay malware ads into the entire site.
My uncle who is a recovering alcoholic keeps getting ads for alcoholic drinks even though we already prompt those ads as "Inappropriate"
He mainly use his phone so adblockers are out of the question into not seeing those ads.
I really hate targeted ads
Same for me except I'm recovering from an eating disorder and I have really bad tokophobia and no amount of flagging ads containing weight loss diets or pregnancy as inappropriate does anything. And the google ads centre is basically useless because it won't let me change what kind of ads I see
if you're on your phone in the YT app, immediately minimize the video and tap on the "Shorts" tab before tapping back to your video. it'll get rid of the ad ~90% of the time and if it doesn't you can just try it again! (this also has the benefit of having hte video minimized so you can't really see the ad too lol)
hope this helps y'all - keep up the good work!!
If you're a non-adblock user, here's a quick couple tips to help yourself:
1. Get an adblock or VPN (goofy. Or are you just stubborn?)
2. Block and report EVERYTHING. If you do it usually won't show up again (TH-cam being the exception to their own rule of course). Then go to your Google profile and request less of every single ad category
3. If you click on a video and it shows an advertisement, that's not the video you've requested. Go back and try again, it takes milliseconds
4. Sometimes a video is forced to have an ad, and usually its the 10s-2m ones. Just don't watch it, its not worth your time
5. Be Eric Cartman and send hate mail
Then I think TH-cam should stop allowing scams to be sponsored on my home page.
those and gov related one.. its so damn annoying seeing propagabda.
Cry more
FYI - the mic stand shaking in the video is really loud in the bass / sub-bass range.
You might not notice if you aren't using a subwoofer or studio monitor headphones.
oh yeah i can kinda hear it its like tapping a mic
It was driving me nuts lol, glad I wasn’t the only one, I thought there was something wrong with my headphones
So turn off your sub or watch something else? Show us how you do the audio in *your* videos. I guess the rest of us are just grateful for the content Muta provides and the work he does FOR US without feeling the need to complain about minor hiccups...
Bro is enjoying the Muta ASMR on the fat woofer stack
@@RT-qd8yl r u good? Dude just giving him an FYI
The biggest Reason i use Ad block is because of horrible ads (like you mentioned) , to many ads and because it Tanks my performance alot i have a old Laptop and it sucks so much that i cant watch videos in HD while at the same time the ads play in 10180 after taking minutes to actualy load ...
Still don’t understand, why higher bitrate is not available on even most of the bigger creators
money thats it
maintaining it would be expensive af, they would ran out of storage in a year and have to spend more on storage servers
so tldr, money
Because everyone blocks ads and they cant increase bit rate for free
@@WayStedYou Ah yes our small startup company Google can't handle that, there's no excuse for them as long as average people says "Google it" instead of "Search it"
@@WayStedYou but they lowered it and then put original one as premium
Wow i can't wait for the adblockers to completely fix and bypass this issue like they always end up doing
Thing is I never had a problem with ads originally... It when they allowed malicious ads, fake mobile game ads, literally 30 min documentary ads.
If they had just taken some due diligence in checking what ads are allowed on their platform, and allowed any ad to be skipped after 5 seconds.
They wouldn't have to do this, and tick off their entire client base... If an ad is appealing, people will watch it and click the ad; that's kinda the point.
But now with tech taking a hit, because of it's own failings (and the economy, but mostly their own actions biting them in the rear.) They are shooting themselves in the foot, again.
Imagine if it were against the terms of service to leave the living room or close your ears or eyes while watching commercials on TV.
They'd still make money though so that isn't a good comparison being humorous or not
There was a Black Mirror episode about this
Can confirm while i had my adblocker on, the whole website was laggy...Even typing in the comments was slow. I thought i had a virus or something...Turned off the adblocker and it ran smooth like butter.
butter with toast crumbs in it maybe
Yeah but saying that it only happened on TH-cam (at least with mine) it's clear that the problem is with TH-cam.
@@theredhood2796 regardless.. turning off adblocker fixed the issue
_"Don't believe everything you see or hear on the internet"_
- Abraham Lincoln
Google's ideal situation is if this was like the matrix movies where all people where plugged in and under control, but instead of the matrix its just constant ad reels. If they can collect and profit off my private data without my consent then I should be able to flip them off in return by blocking ads.
Thats not how it works. You sign a contract when you use google's services. If ad bloccks are against google's TOS they have all the rigth to ban them xd
you gave your consent when you agreed to the ToS. Just saying
@@DajuSar and ad blockers will keep making ways to get around TH-cam's bans plus in parts of the world like the EU outright banning ad blockers is illegal.
@@mariogallego5513 hm today I will be pedantic online for literally no reason nor benefit to myself.
@@mariogallego5513because you need to. You can't disagree with them
Last time I saw an ad on TH-cam (and this is what made me get Ad-Block), it was unstoppable and actually a full video from someone else's channel.
Using the free week or whatever of TH-cam premium a while ago apparently gave me immunity to the "pls turn off ur adblock pls" popups so that's cool
I still think it was TH-cam/Google's fault, because Adblock is enabled on every site I use and ONLY TH-cam seemed to have a problem with it. Hard X to doubt.
Not to mention this issue only cropped up recently.
Actually no, the dev of uBlock Origin showed that it happened in a lot of websites because of adblock and adblock+ (not general adblockers, those are their names)
Guess in which didn't happen? uBlock Origin, the best one lol
So the developer has confirmed that it was the change they pushed and not a change pushed by TH-cam....and that users reported issues not just with TH-cam, but other platforms. But it's still TH-cam's fault...ok.
@@dragonhero14 Users of other adblocking technologies reported the same issue though.
Largely yes it their fault.
AdBlock Plus started borking out causing high CPU loads because of changes the the devs had to make to comply the Google's new set of requirement for Chrome Extensions. The requirement are basically Google's way of reducing the control ad blocking extension have on your webpage.
That being said the requirements haven't been rolled out YET and uBlock Origin seems to be still working fine (they use a completely different algorithm).
And if you are having issues with uBlock, might that you're running multiple ad blocks at the same time or your browser's builtin ad block is running in the background
My major problem with ads are, 80% are french. I don't speak or read french. All my setting in TH-cam and their ad section are English. They need to put the language confirmation choice right in the block option screen. Serving ads to the wrong customers doesn't do anyone any good.
Mine are frequently in Spanish, but the weird part for me is I _do_ speak Spanish, yet have never searched for Spanish-speaking videos on TH-cam. Made me look around for cameras.
I’ve legitimately had multiple instances where TH-cam shoved 5 unskippable ads in a row into videos
I, for one, wouldn't mind ads that were vetted and run by the site themselves -- similar to how TV/radio ads work. But many sites make the browser call out to third-party sites to run their content, with no review. If there's malware that exploits a browser 0-day, well, "Not our problem." I much prefer the sites review and take responsibility for the ads.
But poor Google will have to spend money on more operation costs! /s
If Google actually screened their ads properly against scams or even shady products, I'd probably have no issue with them, or if I could force them to stop sending me casino ads that would be lovely. They don't seem to give a shit and try to gobble up every penny they can, tho.
You can. In your Google account settings there is an option to completely block advertising of certain products like alcohol and gambling. Also the amount of scams i see on TH-cam is about 1% what it was a year ago.
@@andrewgreenwood9068 it doesn't work I tried already like multiple times and contacted google support about it. Just because your experience is mild doesn't mean others aren't
@@andrewgreenwood9068 Sounds like you're lucky. That is not my, or clearly many other people's experiences.
@@andrewgreenwood9068 so I either have to go through a lot of work to not get scam ads or just have an ad blcoker and get no ad blockers at all. Maybe TH-cam should just not platform scam ads.
@@andrewgreenwood9068 I attempted a while back to no luck, I was still getting sketchy gambling ads on and off. Like, if they did Charmin ads to death, I'd be happy tbh. I also notice a weird difference in ad quality between day and night time, but might be dislike towards night shift and not appreciating ads when they pop up. I feel like there is a difference, tho
Many people don't use the extension beginning with "u" and ending with "Origin", which is the best one so far, and use the one that has the simplest name instead because they don't know better and aren't as tech savvy as most of this channel's audience. That is kinda frustrating, if I'm being honest. It's also useful against trackers, as opposed to the popular one.
Blocking an ad is no different than dvr'ing a tv show to fast forward through the commercials.
But you pay for dvr features tho, Dish did it with Hopper for a long time.
@Scooter227 You don't need to. We used to record TV shows on vcr tapes before DVR was a thing lol. But regardless it comes with the cable that you're paying for, AFAIK you don't need to pay extra for it. The ads are for the individual channels, you pay the cable company, not the channels, so it'd be more akin to paying Firefox to block TH-cam ads rather than TH-cam itself.
We need to start DVR'ing TH-cam videos if they make having a blocker too difficult, because its going to be unwatchable otherwise.
@@A-wy5zm "You don't pay anything to watch TV" Yes you do??? Outside of a few channels that are legally required to be available you have to pay for it lol.
It's says something about TH-cam when people automatically assumed TH-cam was behind this.
I started using an ad blocker years ago because TH-cam apparently has zero respect for people's time. Imagine trying to watch a 10 minute video that has 35 ads totaling more than an hour of advertising content, a lot of which ended up being unskippable.
Until TH-cam applies their terms of service to the ads they show, I'm using adblock.
And this is somebody who used adblock but had TH-cam whitelisted for *years*. It isn't worth it anymore.
My favorite thing with TH-cam Premium is how it tries to gaslight you into thinking you've been using it! I've never enabled it, never used any trial, but now when that popup appears it's telling me about how my Premium subscription is ending and I should renew it. What a joke!
They do. TH-cam is pretty good at banning ads when they are actually reported.
@@andrewgreenwood9068 And how do you know this? The way you're going all-knowing in the random comments really makes it look like you're working for TH-cam dude. Just stop.
@@andrewgreenwood9068 You still have a report button? Last time I checked the only thing I can report on an ad is it not showing up correctly!
@@karalyzel3177 on mobile when an ad plays the product name will show up underneath. If you click the down arrow next to that and then click the three dots you get options to block, report or like(for some reason) the ad as well as options to prioritise or deprioritize ads for different types of products.
@@andrewgreenwood9068 Yeah that's why most ads aren't either scam ads or boarderline porn oh wait that is most ads.
FBI tell you to adblock. If that's not an endorsement I don't know what is.
The kicker is, if I were to totally get rid of adblocker, 70% of ads I personally have to sit through are unskippable 2-3minute length advertisements back to back. I don't get 10-30second ads very often, if at all.
Fun fact :
You can skip the ad if you switch to another video and your main video on repeat until the ad is no longer being shown but it takes multiple tries though.
I have mixed luck with that. Sometimes it only takes 2 times, other times it's literally 9+
One time I tried it it just didn't work, I was at it for minutes trying not to get an ad. But that has only happened once. Usually it works.
Back before I used Adblock, it was regular that I saw a video thumbnail that interested me.
Click on it, I would get a unskipable ad, I would reload the site a couple of times and if the ad didn’t go away I would simply just not watch the video lol
I remember, about 2-3 years ago, when an ad appeared on a video, I would just close and reopen the video and the ad would be gone. I got so used to doing this that I do it instinctively now. Sadly it takes a few tries before the ad is gone, these days.
Only on some channels such as IGN you can get lots of ads when opening even after you close the video plenty of times@@SessmaruKusanagiGaming
You should cover the negative health effects ads have brought upon society. It's not just about being malware and incredibly annoying, but especially in kids, ads have serious long term negative effects on children's attention spans, ADD/ADHD.
you can't get ADHD by spending too much time watching or playing, it doesn't work like that.
If TH-cam and Google invested 10% of their time they spend on fighting adblockers in stopping the obvious scam, get rich schemes and fake mobile game ads, most people would not bother with blocking ads, but that's only half of the issue. When you make most of your ads just plain obnoxious, too loud, and/or unskippable and detrimental to the user, expect the pushback. And if you think that paying for a premium will guarantee you ad free experience think again, if 50% of current users started paying, they would just add ads to the current paying base and create a premium premium ad free tier for a couple of bucks more, same as Netflix and Amazon, it is a never ending circle of greed.
This is a similar issue that buried most published magazines, even before the online transition, when you eventually got to 50% or more pages of ads in any magazine you PAID for, surprise, surprise, people stopped paying for ads with articles sprinkled in, their sales plummeted and majority were cancelled.
One more issue I have is with favouritism and censorship, for every big creator that can get away with basically anything illegal, and for every small creator YT demonetizes just for kicks, I just demonetize TH-cam for a day. It's so stacked that if they stop doing that kind of shit today, I would still be covered until 2035.
TH-cam was the initiator of this and thereby I will blame them none-the-less.
The biggest issue with this ordeal is that they allow scam ads and p*rn ads. If those weren't a thing then blocking ads wouldn't be as morally correct. The reason people are blocking ads is because ads are very invasive on so many websites that people are choosing not so subject themselves to them, as well as getting scammed or hacked.
@@ambiarock590 Are we really talking about the morality of.. blocking ads? Really?
People block ads solely because they're annoying. That's just it. Ads don't directly scam you nor hack you. Safety isn't the primary concern while blocking ads. If you actively don't block the ads and then go around and click on them then you just deserve what's coming to your PC.
@@arionell Right on
I personally hate ads and how pervasive they have become.
Seriously couldn't have said it better. Only thing preventing me from watching ads is the disgusting ads that play. If the actual ad content was monitored better I'd watch whatever. I love my creators and want to support them how I can and am just so sad I can't watch the ads without wanting to barffffff. Fully stand by putting options in the ads would be such a good concept. Auto-muting even though it's still playing and at least some general control of what you see (like checked categories if you don't want games or a specific store etc etc) would be awesome places to start.
ive spent literally 8+ hours the last few days watching reconstructed toonami and adult swim videos. between 3 and 8 hour videos, recreating a saturday morning or late night of tv from the early 2000s, including old commercials. and was not bothered. the quality of commercials back in the day, wasnt good. but its miles better than what youtube allows. youtube seems to allow ANY ad, so long as they pay to put it up
What ads do you consider disgusting, that's a problem
Don't lie to yourself, you would use adblock regardeless. It's a matter of convinience. The majority of users would use adblocks regardeless of the state of the ads
I cancelled my TH-cam Premium when they started advertising it to me when I already had it. Never again.
I also boycott any advertisements I do actually see. Mostly I either adblock, or manually mute the audio and turn the monitor off and wait the time. Either way, they will get ZERO from me. ZERO. NOTHING. They want to shove ads down my throat, I'll just pirate MORE and buy LESS. It's worked for me for 20+ years, and continues to do so without fail.
I tried to compromise. I tried to live and let live, but TH-cam is starting a war they don't want to be in.... and it's gonna get really fkn ugly
Honestly I can't wait for TH-cam to actually find a way to prevent Adblockers from functioning, the day I can't block ads is the day I finally stop using this damn site.
do it right now
I'm curious. Is there a site that currently does what TH-cam does better? If you know of one, I'd like to look it up and try it. Also TH-cam isn't forcing you to use it. You are not required to have an account. You do so because you want to or can't help yourself not to.
@@dragonhero14 You say there's no obligation and you don't know of any alternatives. Therein lies the issue sadly, it's a huge thing to suddenly leave because the site itself is designed to be addicting. But yes technically speaking none of us are required to use it, even those who make a career off of it but there's nothing else out there that can compete.
@@dragonhero14 Absolutely, that's exactly my point. As of now I watch YT out of habit more than because it's actually entertaining, the only reason I still use it for "fun" is because it's convenient to just open YT and watch a couple of videos when I have nothing to do.
There some truth to the joke; If one day I wake up and have to sit through ads to watch youtube, that incovenience would probably be enough to make me stop using it outside of tutorials.
@@the_keychain Ty for replying. I'm curious now. Would you prefer paying for TH-cam? Either with few ads, but ones you can't bypass ,or paying for the service directly? If you are recieving enteritainment , training, knowledge, or reasonable value from a service or platform, I think it's normal to pay for that service. There are a number of people that believe that things posted to the internet should be free(no ads, no tracking while on the site, no payment). However, this thinking would ensure that significantly less content overall is made avalible and many companies deciding that it's not productive to post, support, or publish content on the internet. BTW I'm not judging you. I'm just curious on your viewpoint :)
Tbh, as an American, I do think we need an internet constitution. It sounds dumb but bc of Twitter, it makes sense. Why should websites work with feds or for feds? It's disturbing. And along this: we're private citizens (sorry everyone else) meaning what we do on (X) website for (X) reason doesn't matter, I don't want ads, I don't want trackers, we should all have a right to use the internet as we please.
It’s not dumb. The internet is not of the most important inventions of all time. Just because we use it to shitpost doesn’t mitigate its power.
I wish but the environment in which the constitution was able to be created can never happen again. The wealthy and powerful won't allow anything that hurts their pockets
I would only worry about who's making the rules on such a thing. Can't trust 60 yr old men to know what's in our best interest especially with corpo money lining their pockets.
Steps 2 and 3 of the Four Steps for Ideological Subversion (Yuri Bezmenov, 1985)
2. Destabilization - the purpose of this step is to change the status quo, particularly the country's economy, foreign relations, and defense systems. *The intent is to create a massive government permeating society and becoming intrusive in the lives of its citizens.* This can take from two to five years to perform, again with the active support of academia pushing youth in this direction. Here, entitlements and benefits are promised to the populace to encourage their support. Basically, they are bribing the people to accept their programs.
Bezmenov claims after this stage is completed, the naive college professors are no longer needed and since they will undoubtedly protest government policies when they discover the truth, they will be disposed of quickly. He cites examples of this occurring in Nicaragua, Grenada, Afghanistan, and Bangladesh.
Look up the following video on YT:
While We Were PANICKING, the Government Did THIS... | reallygraceful - TH-cam This video is about the *bipartisan EARN IT bill,* introduced by senators Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal. The EARN IT bill had its first hearing on March 12, 2020 and aims to *allow the government to scan any and all messages online, eventually eliminating end-to-end encryption and the expectation of privacy altogether.*
(The EARN It Bill was passed in January, 2022.)
Look up the following news article:
U.S. and UK Enter Into Landmark Data Access Agreement - Kennedy Sutherland LLP (kslawllp.com)
On October 3, 2022, the Department of Justice (“DOJ”) announced that the Access to Electronic Data for the Purpose of Countering Serious Crime (“Data Access Agreement” or “Agreement”) between the United States of America (U.S.) and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (UK) is now in effect.
Under this landmark Agreement, service providers in the U.S. and the UK will be permitted to respond to a “qualifying, lawful” overseas production order (“OPO”) to transfer electronic data created or maintained by the provider. *According to the DOJ, the Agreement will allow the U.S. and UK to “prevent, detect, investigate, and prosecute serious crime, including terrorism, transnational organized crime, and child exploitation, among others.”*
3. Crisis-This is a major step lasting up to six weeks and involves a revolutionary change of power. This is where a cataclysmic event (false flag event, civil war, invasion) upsets and divides the country thereby creating panic among the citizens. To Americans, symptoms would include circumventing the Constitution (re: Use "privately owned" social media sites to restrict free speech/First Amendment rights) and altering the checks and balances of government (see: Video and article I posted above), and possible martial law.
Creation of economic financial and national security crisis. Also includes social crisis and a breakdown of previously self-evident restrictions on moral behavior.
The Cloward-Piven approach is used to create more takers than producers (higher population than available jobs, necessitating government aid)
The crisis produces benevolent leaders who will promise to deliver things to meet people's needs through “hope and change” (ie: Hitler’s rise to power amidst a disenfranchised German population reeling from the effects of WW1) through social and economic justice. False illusion that the situation is under control if strategic directions are followed-Bailouts, regulations of industry and so forth.
Why should the websites work with/for the feds? What happens in a revolutionary change of power? What happened in Germany? Communist Russia? Anyone deemed an enemy of the State is eliminated. What do you suppose when you are deemed not just an enemy of the State, but also of "God and Country"? How will they prove it? Your actions online, which you have probably been doing for many years, are recorded, of course.
Look up the following article from MSNBC: (Remember, in this world, narratives and opinions are all that really matters. And sometimes they will keep telling a narrative until it becomes a reality.)
Trump just promised an authoritarian ‘task force’ to impose Christian ideology
What is the “7 Mountains Mandate” (Dominionism/Dominion Theology)? Supposedly there are 7 “mountains” of global society-Arts and Entertainment, Education, Economy, Family, Government and Military, Media and Religion. (Note: The US voting machines are called “Dominion”.) According to this false teaching, by conquering these 7 “mountains”, the Kingdom of God will be established.
You might just think they are planning a revolutionary change of power.
@@mizmuth The Government controls the corporations, not the other way around. The government uses corporations to achieve their goals. The Government is like the mafia and the corporations are the businesses paying the enforcers not to hurt them. If the Government wants you shut down, they will shut you down. They don't need "corpo money" when they have the Federal Reserve able to print them whatever money they need at any given time.
You can test out the slow down by trying to type in comments. There is a significant delay in characters being typed and actually showing up on screen. I tested it myself with enabled and disabled.
Just a recap: 07:50 highlights the core issue. I don't want to talk down other adblock developers out there, but currently there is only ONE adblocker out there that is far ahead of the curve (ublock), to the point the general advice is to specifically use that one and not use any other adblock extension or even adblock browser setting or in some cases other extensions that may simply tweak or affect anything on YT because that could still cause issues.
Now, I totally respect other adblock teams to get their adblock versions back up to the same quality and this may only cause some temporary issues that these teams can work on to resolve, but from a user perspective it's entirely the smart thing to do to stay on board with the leading adblocker out there, which without a second of doubt, is for sure ublock.
This. Only use uBlock Origin
I can only second that.
I can only third that.
I currently have 4 running, A PiHole, then Brave's inbuilt one, and then uBlock adn AdNauseum. Cannot be to safe
uBlock Origin is the goat, it's among the top in my personal little toolbox of browser addons I use with mozilla Firefox. I also just got surfshark so that gives me extra relief
As long as the scammers that make those scam ads continue to pay youtube for the ads, youtube will never put effort into getting rid of those scam ads.
Seriously it's terrible, meanwhile they censor everyone when they says some normal words.
@@MarvinHartmann452
TH-cam: "You can't say shit it may be offensive to our softcore porn advertisers"
Look, I work in IT. I gave one of our clients UBO because that woman finds her way into more scareware pages than anyone I've ever known. Make the web safer and maybe we'll stop.
Ublock Origin boys!
Based origin enjoyer
So true bestie
Dang I’m glad you didn’t get hacked man I hope TH-cam ad blocks gets fixes that crap man take care
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I always wondered if TH-cam was making the experience worse and wanted adblock users to stop using adblock, then why would they covertly make the experience worse instead of outright telling people "hey, if you're using adblock then the experience will be worse for you".
The University Campus has some form of ad blocker automatically installed on chrome and firefox already and it can't be changed. There are entire institutions that mandate it for cyber security on publicly accessable devices.
I think the FBI is on record recommending to use adblock
@@kosmosXcannon Back in the day, Java banners on the sides of sites could be used to infect your pc by simply loading in the page. Looks like same shite, different day.
The problem isn't the costs of running, but that large corporations really love squeezing profits to the last cent as if money was scarce. The real problem is their damn greed.
(01/19/2024) I honestly bet that the top executives at TH-cam were thinking “Damn, We Should’ve Done That!” When concerning the whole “Slow loading with Adblock” Situation, If that makes any sense.
Im getting a skip ad followed by another skip ad. Of course im gonna use adblocker.
Its damn true. Chrome itself started working so poorly after a chrome update a while back. After the update my adblocker was automatically disabled but after i re-enabled it started working realy slow.
... yes its always been true when you made code based on someone else's code, and that other person makes changes, that your code will have problems. Why is this somehow insightful now? If you have mods in a game, and the game updates and then starts having issues, are you going to blame the game too?
Bro I thought my pc was filled with viruses or something. This makes total sense