i experienced a lot of eye rolling, which indicates a juvenile stage of emotional development. also, lots of pictures with the old tongue sticking out... these people are stuck in the place where their childhood development stopped. its got nothing to do with chemical deficiencies or serotonin uptake, they are essentially children struggling to approximate adult life. if you get involved with them, you will eventually be forced to reconsider the notion of "practice makes perfect".
@@Lizpolygigiblissgirl a dark empath is not a narcissist. I think what you encountered is a narc. A narcissist has a late emotional development so they act childish and impulsive . A dark empath is much wiser as it requires emotional intelligence to know when to go dark on someone.
I remember telling one of my co workers she,s so good looking,she blushed so badly, embarrassed. later on she told me she was always made to feel ugly with her freckles.
I have a radar for dark people and can tell right away without knowing that I don’t want them around me and I avoid them to the best of my abilities. They are self centred people that can do the damage as well, especially if a member of your immediate family.
In your description of dark empaths, it sounds like they have emotional intelligence and can recognize different emotions in others; but instead of feeling the emotion --they just put on an appropriate `'act" to get the response they want. The more I understand empathy, the more it sounds like emotional intelligence and the ability to feel/recognize one's own emotions. (And we have a lot of different emotions, both positive and negative). I think a true empath can actually feel what another is feeling, not just reflect.
Thanks for this video. It very clearly explains how cognitive empathy is distinct from the other types of empathy. Really appreciate the picture you painted of how people with dark triad traits who also have dark empathy may operate and how this empathy can add additional fuel to their usual levels of toxicity!
Wow! This is really helpful! I keep finding an answer to my question about how can be someone a covert-overt narcissist when he has empathy!? Thank you!
It’s how a healthy person protects themselves and treasure their empathy in a toxic environment full of narcissists. Yes we know how to play around and shut the narcissists down.
Your video's are mind blowing, incredibly well put together and so on point! Do you think you could do one regarding 'Enabling Fathers' please? It's the one thing I've not heard you discuss yet 🙏🙌
Narcissists do have cognitive empathy, they utilise it for their aims, BPD even have affective empathy yet can flip into dissociative sadistic states. So the label Dark Empath seems surplus to requirement- it’s just narcissistic traits, and often (as the comments section illustrates) in people who want to justify their traits to themselves as ‘protective’.. Which is exactly what narcs do- justify their attacks. Narcissism is on a spectrum, everyone has some traits, don’t let someone drag you down to their level and push you further up the scale towards vindictiveness. Fighting with them just gives them more attention.
Sometimes, feeling things so deeply can change you. Sometimes one has to force a psychopathic personality in order to deal with everyday reality. However, that empath is still deep In our core... Wound up like a rubber band ball at the bottom of the sea. Psychopaths are scary because they don't feel... Empaths are scary when they turn to darkness. It's like starwars.. We go fricken insane and get that Intoxicating taste of hate and revenge. It's not good.. especially if you're intelligent. K idk why Im hear. Not feeding the monster anymore.. Love others. It wasn't everyone who hurt you. It was Nope can't go there either
I can’t understand why I attract these type of people. I’m so exhausted from dealing with them. I’m living with two narcissistic dark empaths. So tired drained.
With your description of the first date Darren, I doubt there would even be a completion of the first date. Personally I would run out as I did with a man who asked way too many questions about my young children.
My husband (vulnerable narcissist) would take our family out for pizza after our weekly religious meeting. In public he treated me like his queen and would jump up to get me refills for my soda and was so attentive to me and the kids. At home he NEVER got anyone else a drink or anything else unless we had company. It was sickening to live the lies he forced us to live with. Our family and friends thought he spoiled us. 🥺🥴
Im in a place that is a bit messy, im quite confused, but I think u describe my mother here. Although I'm not sure it isn't me, or both of us? We have not spoken in 2 months. People think I am horrible and at fault, but they don't know the truth, I know what she has done is wrong, yet I still feel guilty. I dont want my life like that anymore but I'm not sure im not in the wrong to do so
Well when one of you dies there will be no more chances to heal either yourself or your mother Get off the pride wagon and fix it if she is willing to meet you half way if that doesn't happen at least you know you tried to mend things with her. Unfortunately you will wake up one morning and see her image starring back at you.... That is the BIGGEST SHOCK. Be impeccable with your words and do not procrastinate if you don't do it; it is most certain that you will have regrets.
Same. You tend to feel guilty for trying to separate yourself from the toxic, narcissistic person, especially a mother, but it really is the right thing to do. All my elderly mother’s church friends think I’m a horrible daughter…horrible person. She talks horribly about me…gossiping, lying and confabulating, yet she is the emotional and mentally abusive one. Poor put upon mother! I feel sick, every day of my life, due to her destructive behaviors aimed at destroying me, and the guilt I’ll feel from not wanting to be around her!!!
please, could you make a video upon analyzing late British pop singer George Michael type of personality I was just greatly confused at the time. Or may be even me))) you can easily find the description in Fifty Shades Of Grey trilogy I was 13-15 at the time. Means still naturally narcissistic some way as a teenager
is their empathy something that they have to consciously flex like a muscle and look for-- or have naturally but chose to use it to exploit & manipulate??
@@DarrenFMagee ....so generally "dark empaths" would be anyone using their empathetic ways to manipulate/harm? or more exclusively for those of the dark triads?
Was martied to an evil monster like that for 23 years. Left him ,after the kids were grown and i finished my education. I pretended to be his victim, so he thought he had the upper hand and backed off. Meanwhile i saved and plotted.
We can make up any category we wish with these human traits of ours. What he is talking about is manipulation, which any human can do. There is more to this simple pop psychology in understanding unconscious intentions, lacanian enjoyment, and other areas of normal psychological development within culture and society. I think a lot of this classification really applies to a spectrum that every single person can fit into, and which is what makes this audience capture and incessant videos another example of said narcissism. it's very possible, I'm wrong, but the amount of true narcissism and manipulation is based upon the current cultures and desires we have...
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how about a vid on highly empathetic people and types.
OH..
and types of intelligence.
@@chester3621 thank you for your suggestion
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Can you cover when a parent and sibling are always together and the two gang up all the time 😮 love the videos
I made a video about triangulation if that would be helpful?
You can recognise these people by their knowing smirk when you confront them. Chilling.
Duper's delight !
i experienced a lot of eye rolling, which indicates a juvenile stage of emotional development. also, lots of pictures with the old tongue sticking out... these people are stuck in the place where their childhood development stopped. its got nothing to do with chemical deficiencies or serotonin uptake, they are essentially children struggling to approximate adult life. if you get involved with them, you will eventually be forced to reconsider the notion of "practice makes perfect".
@@Lizpolygigiblissgirl a dark empath is not a narcissist. I think what you encountered is a narc. A narcissist has a late emotional development so they act childish and impulsive . A dark empath is much wiser as it requires emotional intelligence to know when to go dark on someone.
@@n0426 like the Cheshire cat. 😸
@@jallehdoty4071 exactly!! 👏🏻😍
I remember telling one of my co workers she,s so good looking,she blushed so badly, embarrassed. later on she told me she was always made to feel ugly with her freckles.
I have a radar for dark people and can tell right away without knowing that I don’t want them around me and I avoid them to the best of my abilities. They are self centred people that can do the damage as well, especially if a member of your immediate family.
In your description of dark empaths, it sounds like they have emotional intelligence and can recognize different emotions in others; but instead of feeling the emotion --they just put on an appropriate `'act" to get the response they want. The more I understand empathy, the more it sounds like emotional intelligence and the ability to feel/recognize one's own emotions. (And we have a lot of different emotions, both positive and negative). I think a true empath can actually feel what another is feeling, not just reflect.
Yes, it's emotional intelligence used against you.
Thanks for this video. It very clearly explains how cognitive empathy is distinct from the other types of empathy.
Really appreciate the picture you painted of how people with dark triad traits who also have dark empathy may operate and how this empathy can add additional fuel to their usual levels of toxicity!
I think I was a dark empath but I didn’t mean harm by it just to protect my fragile ego
Wow! This is really helpful! I keep finding an answer to my question about how can be someone a covert-overt narcissist when he has empathy!? Thank you!
Thank you I’m glad you found the video helpful
Thank you for uploading this!
For somone who doesnt have this you nailed it word for word
You have nailed it Darren. Spot on. Exactly the case. Demons at work.
It’s how a healthy person protects themselves and treasure their empathy in a toxic environment full of narcissists.
Yes we know how to play around and shut the narcissists down.
I was growing up with psychopath father and being bullied everywhere, my childhood was hell so i believe that made me dark empath
I just love your soothing, bardic voice. 😌💝🙏
Thank you for explaining it all for us, it was a deep topic! I'm glad to learn with you, thanks for all of the insights here!❤
And I’ve been learning from your channel’s content as well so thank you 👍
Your video's are mind blowing, incredibly well put together and so on point! Do you think you could do one regarding 'Enabling Fathers' please? It's the one thing I've not heard you discuss yet 🙏🙌
Thank you for your kind feedback and suggestion 👍
Narcissists do have cognitive empathy, they utilise it for their aims, BPD even have affective empathy yet can flip into dissociative sadistic states.
So the label Dark Empath seems surplus to requirement- it’s just narcissistic traits, and often (as the comments section illustrates) in people who want to justify their traits to themselves as ‘protective’.. Which is exactly what narcs do- justify their attacks. Narcissism is on a spectrum, everyone has some traits, don’t let someone drag you down to their level and push you further up the scale towards vindictiveness. Fighting with them just gives them more attention.
please do more on dark empaths, as you propose near the end of this session. Thanks very much in advance....
Sometimes, feeling things so deeply can change you. Sometimes one has to force a psychopathic personality in order to deal with everyday reality.
However, that empath is still deep In our core... Wound up like a rubber band ball at the bottom of the sea.
Psychopaths are scary because they don't feel...
Empaths are scary when they turn to darkness. It's like starwars..
We go fricken insane and get that Intoxicating taste of hate and revenge. It's not good.. especially if you're intelligent.
K idk why Im hear. Not feeding the monster anymore..
Love others. It wasn't everyone who hurt you. It was
Nope can't go there either
I can’t understand why I attract these type of people. I’m so exhausted from dealing with them. I’m living with two narcissistic dark empaths. So tired drained.
I needed to hear this just had an experience with a friend thank you this helps
This is a chilling description.
Needed to hear this!♡ The Dark Empath seems so diverse and interesting👀✨
Yes but stay away!! I learned this the hard way!!
With your description of the first date Darren, I doubt there would even be a completion of the first date. Personally I would run out as I did with a man who asked way too many questions about my young children.
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My husband (vulnerable narcissist) would take our family out for pizza after our weekly religious meeting. In public he treated me like his queen and would jump up to get me refills for my soda and was so attentive to me and the kids. At home he NEVER got anyone else a drink or anything else unless we had company. It was sickening to live the lies he forced us to live with. Our family and friends thought he spoiled us. 🥺🥴
Im in a place that is a bit messy, im quite confused, but I think u describe my mother here. Although I'm not sure it isn't me, or both of us? We have not spoken in 2 months. People think I am horrible and at fault, but they don't know the truth, I know what she has done is wrong, yet I still feel guilty. I dont want my life like that anymore but I'm not sure im not in the wrong to do so
Well when one of you dies there will be no more chances to heal either yourself or your mother Get off the pride wagon and fix it if she is willing to meet you half way if that doesn't happen at least you know you tried to mend things with her. Unfortunately you will wake up one morning and see her image starring back at you.... That is the BIGGEST SHOCK. Be impeccable with your words and do not procrastinate if you don't do it; it is most certain that you will have regrets.
Same. You tend to feel guilty for trying to separate yourself from the toxic, narcissistic person, especially a mother, but it really is the right thing to do. All my elderly mother’s church friends think I’m a horrible daughter…horrible person. She talks horribly about me…gossiping, lying and confabulating, yet she is the emotional and mentally abusive one. Poor put upon mother! I feel sick, every day of my life, due to her destructive behaviors aimed at destroying me, and the guilt I’ll feel from not wanting to be around her!!!
This is my covert narc MIL. Describes her exactly.
I've never heard of this term but I needed to..off I go 🐇
So how do we fix this? Therapy is way too expensive. What to do?
I am confused now and worried if I am one because I am learning to grey rock narcissistic people but I feel bad for doing that .
please, could you make a video upon analyzing late British pop singer George Michael type of personality I was just greatly confused at the time. Or may be even me))) you can easily find the description in Fifty Shades Of Grey trilogy I was 13-15 at the time. Means still naturally narcissistic some way as a teenager
is their empathy something that they have to consciously flex like a muscle and look for-- or have naturally but chose to use it to exploit & manipulate??
That’s a difficult question to answer as everyone is different
@@DarrenFMagee
....so generally "dark empaths" would be anyone using their empathetic ways to manipulate/harm?
or more exclusively for those of the dark triads?
@@chester3621 There are always exceptions but I'd say that would be right
@@DarrenFMagee
general term or darktriads ?
@@chester3621 I'd say dark triads
Dark empaths can read emotions like a colour blind person can read a traffic light.
HOW CAN YOU MAKE SURE IS NOT INTENDED.. ????
In one research population, dark empaths were 19.3%. Very frightening people.
If i can spot a clear dark empath people what u think should i do to save people not being victims?
Was martied to an evil monster like that for 23 years. Left him ,after the kids were grown and i finished my education. I pretended to be his victim, so he thought he had the upper hand and backed off. Meanwhile i saved and plotted.
What is the difference between a dark empath and machiavellianism?
but what is the difference between a dark empath and a narcissist?
Dark empath or psychopaths? Who is more manipulative?
Sounds like you're describing the Government!
We can make up any category we wish with these human traits of ours. What he is talking about is manipulation, which any human can do. There is more to this simple pop psychology in understanding unconscious intentions, lacanian enjoyment, and other areas of normal psychological development within culture and society. I think a lot of this classification really applies to a spectrum that every single person can fit into, and which is what makes this audience capture and incessant videos another example of said narcissism. it's very possible, I'm wrong, but the amount of true narcissism and manipulation is based upon the current cultures and desires we have...
Darren,
Is the Dismissive avoidant attachment style person the same as the dark empath?
So you’re telling me not everyone besides people in the dark triad dont act like this normally??
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Eso es un gasto de energía. Los empáticos oscuros pueden ser muy peligrosos, ninguno de nosotes
Es perfecto, todos tenemos iqe trabajar en algo y aprender hacernos cargo de nosotros mismos.
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Isn’t dark empath just a narcissist
Data-mining.