As I've shared in a recent community post, I still have performance problems with Forza Motorsport, namely really low FPS requiring multiple restarts and these restarts plagued by 4-5 minutes of optimizing shaders. 😒 I'm still working on trying to resolve this, but in the meantime I wanted to still bring you a video, so I opted to go for showing you a different racing game, which you will hopefully enjoy as well. Let me know if would like to see more ACC in the future! 😊 I know I've only scratched the surface with ACC here and what FM could learn from it. Completely forgot to mention working replays for example which I was really happy I could include for you here. 👍
Forza had multiclass before (GT+LMP) Sadly it has been gone for years now. (FM4) Old static lobbies where: (FM2) LMP1 LMP2 GT1 GT2 GT3 GT4 And Multi Class endurance GT1+LMP1 I hope, they will bring back some of this, but chances are very slim sadly. They wanted less lobbies so they would have fuller lobbies, i can understand that. But the Multi Class Lobbies had a right to exist as they where very popular.
I loved driving on ACC back in the day but found it needed so much time put into it to stay competitive. A great game if you have the time to dedicate to it though and other driving games can learn a lot from it, even the more casual ones like FM
I do agree with most of what you said, apart your opinion on controller. ACC is very playable on controller, not only for the crazy fast guyz, but for anyone really (I do have >2000hours on the game exclusively on controller for the past 2 years, so I guess I can speak out of experience here, not to mention other sims which would probably double that number). It offers a huge amount of customization to adjust the controls, that games such as Forza do not. Nowadays I struggle more to play Forza type game than pure sim on controller. So if any of you is afraid to give it a try because "you don't have a wheel", please don't be. Just try it, you may very well like it.
Very interesting to hear! 👍 I seems that I just personally struggle to play anthing but Forza Horizon or Trackmania on a controller. 😂 So thanks for the input and experience, I hope this will encourage more people to try ACC. 😊
Hello HD, I would definitely enjoy watching some of your racing in other games. I have been following some YT content where AC is used because I gather that it appeals to so many and is a respected platform. For myself I doubt that I will go the wheel/pedal/PC route in the immediate future, however I do think some of the features you discussed would be very beneficial in FM. Damage in multiplayer alone would likely lead to less of the rammers. I am also a data person and would definitely enjoy the additional information provided. From a visual and audio perspective, I am fine with what FM provides. I have a pretty decent sound system and to my ears, FM sounds very good. It appears that you have more patience than I possess, having to do multiple restarts due to stability issues would turn me off very quickly. I am disappointed that update 4 appears to lack any details relating to PC stability fixes. I realize it was the holiday season however if there was true ownership, employees at T10 would have accepted an abbreviated holiday and got some much needed things done. Once again thank you for sharing such excellent content 👍
I can understand not wanting to go the racing wheel route, it's not cheap, needs space and is a bit of rabbit hole once you get into it. 😅 FM does a lot of things right, I just hope that Turn10 will look to other games a bit more and learn from them. Yes, I am quite patient, but recently my patience was really getting tested. 😒 I seem to have fixed the issue for now mostly, so hopefully no more of this nonsense. 🤞 Thanks for your feedback as always. 😊
I wish Forza had a multiclass hopper but that would probably involve to much thinking for its player base. ACC is awesome though, geek'ed for the GT2 update
Multiclass in FM Multiplayer would probably be a disaster. But I don't understand why there is also none in the career mode (not that I played much of that). Would at least make it more interesting. GT2 Update will be awesome, hopefully also more popular than GT4. 🙏
FM4 had it in the past, and it was not a disaster, it was really good fun and very popular. Hard to find footage of the multiplayer hopper lobby: Multi class But even in the single player it was a game mode in the game th-cam.com/video/KmmqdFjlcI8/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/GVTHAfZ4EDg/w-d-xo.html
I don't like ACC's FFB. Which is the main reason I don't play it. I like RaceRoom and AMS2s (after all the updates) FFB, but there isn't really a competitive scene in either of those games. RRE has ranked, but lobbies are still mostly random and rarely many active. The things I'd like to see in Forza from ACC are things you mentioned: Radar, Virtual Mirror, Forza GT split into 3 groups (GT4 (need more GT4 cars), GT3/GTE, and GT2) and actually make an attempt to closely balance them like ACC and IRacing does (though LFM still needed to do more balancing for ACC with ballast). Things you didn't mention, rolling starts and proper triple screen support. I actually like Forza FFB, but it requires a lot of dialing it in, as default FFB is awful. And they need to fix matchmaking. It doesn't work at all. It should more resemble IRacing and LFM for longer races, and more like GT7 for shorter ones.
I feel you, FFB can be a killer. It's for sure very different from FM, but I quite like both. Though FM was a pain to get set up well, while ACC for me just works out of the box. RRE is also a great game, I enjoy that from time to time as well, but yes the Multiplayer is pretty dead sadly.
Thanks for the feedback. 😊 iRacing always kept me away with their pricing model, just seems a bit ridiculous to me. But from what I've heard it's pretty great and has a lot of variety as well. I'm personally also liking RaceRoom, that has similar variety, but is fairer in terms of pricing. Both look quite dated though imo. A very cheap option is the original Assetto Corsa, which does hold up quite well, if you take the time to get some mods for it.
ACC is a very good game overall with no major flaws that I can think of unlike *cough cough* Forza Motorsport. And as someone who used to play ACC on a gamepad it's surprisingly not that difficult. I wish the game was more popular amongst the main stream audience
That's cool to hear that you played ACC on a controller. I couldn't do it. Though to be fair anything more difficult than Forza Horizon I struggle with controller. 😅 And yes, if this was a bit more accessible and popular with the mainstream audience, it could be huge.
@@HDeeRacing Well I definitely would love a wheel but I only got a Gamepad atm so gotta make it work somehow 😂 Also because I was on a controller I had to rely hard on the assists so there's that
As @alnath01 said, it's on all platforms, but afaik not cross-platform. Biggest playerbase is likely on PC, as that is where it's been out the longest. Thanks for the feedback. 😊
It is on all platforms, but with controller it is undriveable.. Some exemptions, some ppl got it working, but i tried 20/30+ different controller setting and they all failed. My time spend is only to get it to work with controller, sadly it was never good enough to do a race.
Forza really needs the radar ACC has. That and maybe per car FOV because T10 lacks the competency to set up cockpit cameras reasonably well themselves. I don't mind the lack of on the fly TCS/ABS adjustment. But it would be nice to have a general TCS/ABS/shifting type setting on a per car basis. However, Forza has tunable shitboxes, which is what I'm all about. Now excuse me while I go back into the D-Class hopper and try to divine the vehicle that will slay the mighty miata (pls nerf)
Yes, radar is the biggest thing for me. On the fly TC/ABS adjustments aren't super necesary, but at least adjustable per car in the tuning menu or something would be nice. And yes, the variety is something FM has over most proper racing sims. Good luck on beating the Miata. 😄
Hi, Just stream whatever you like, that's how the channel will grow - BTW, about TC and brake setup, GT7 has an immediate access to it too . IMO, ACC is more difficult, more competitive, and thus, has more high-level players - Maybe that's why GT7 and Forza Motorsport are there, they allow lower level players to race, even if there are a lot of high-level in both too . I've never had a fps issue myself, but I know a french streamer who has the same problem, especially in multiplayer..... I'll check if he also uses an AMD processor (maybe T10 missed something ? )
@@HDeeRacing I wish it was on PC too, but ..... Anyway, even if GT7 has some advantages on FM, I confess I drive more on FM than I do on GT7 - I've had the same bad experience of rammers on GT7 as in FM (not a very high level for now ;-) ) - And Forza has one thing that makes it very interesting for me : rivals ! It helps a lot to improve !
@@HDeeRacing I would include F1 23 for example, too. So you cover sim racing, semi sim (F1) and more an arcade -ish game like Forza. :D but in fact I just enjoy your channel and your way of the videos
@@mr.bernie6198 I was never the biggest fan of F1, so probably not. 😅But I get what you mean, maybe if I have too much time on my hands at some point in the future. 😂
Great to hear you're happy with ACC. 😊 There is some really great racing to be had. The difference in respectful and clean driving is sometimes astonishing.
Hi HDee, I have Assetto Corsa Competizion which was downloaded with game pass, do I need to purchase the ACC complete DLC pack for $40.00 NZ to be able to play this in multi player ?
That depends. It's not strictly necessary, you will be able to play multiplayer without. You will however be limited in car choice and will not be able to join lobbies for some tracks that are part of a DLC. Give it a try and see if you like it first I would say.
I love to see ACC . I just bought it last week and it’s one of the best games I’ve ever played. Glad to see you enjoying making content on different games :)
ACC has been really well polished over the last years and is one of the best GT Racing experiences imo. I would love to do videos on it as well, so this is also kind of a test if viewers are interested. So thank you for the feedback. 😊👍
I was quite surprised when getting back into it how different the GT driving feels on ACC. While FM has big improvements in their driving model, ACC still does GT driving like no other game I've played. And the UI is also way cleaner imo and way more responsive.
I play the top 3 "simcad" titles. GT7, FM, & ACC. I'm still very new to sim racing maybe only 2 months. I only currently play in career mode in ACC cause I'm still learning the entire game. As of right now I'm playing GT7 more than FM due to how broken that game is in comparison to ACC and GT7. But I play ACC once a week just to keep learning the game so i can play it in multiplayer. FM really needs to upgrade so much of the game I think they dont understand where people are with racing titles
I've always seen FM and GT7 as a gateway to more sim focused titles like ACC or iRacing. The latter require more time to put in to get really good at them, but I find it incredibly rewarding. FM and GT7 however really shine in accessibility and providing variety.
@@HDeeRacing but i think as per your video GT7 & ACC have very good physics, wheel input, multiplayer lobbies, radar, in race tuning. I feel T10 just stop caring about upgrading the dynamics of the game to basically give access to all levels of sim drivers. I feel so cheated because i purchased an series X solely to play FM and 3 months in it's still basically garbage. Maybe in 6 months it will be closer to what i and most Motorsports enthusiasts enjoy playing but for right now the game is unplayable for multiplayer. I'm going to knock that game down to maybe an hour a week. I'm already S class 4800k rated. But I'm going to work on getting A rated in GT7 for now
YES! That's why we run Multiclass ourselves in our Racing League, no one else does it... But the problem is Multiclass is broken in some ways on FM2023! For example: setting the race to lets say 60 laps, makes it so that the race ends instantly after the end-race-timer ran out and the complete leaderboard of the slower group is all messed up > using timed race is the only way but the problem is, the race is finished where ever you're at. You dont get to finish the lap. I also wish Forza had the telemetry share for other drivers so at least through Simhub we'd be able to get other drivers' information.
The mirror has always been missing from both the cockpit and driver views in FM afaik, and I don't know why. With how little mirrors are visible in some cars it just makes it so much more difficult. Awesome, glad you like the MG tune. 👍
I'm sorry but radar is not gonna help AT ALL!!!! BODY DAMAGE, PROPER penalties and DQ none of this over 10 seconds BS!!!! 4 OR 5 penalties and you're gone from the race!! Double or triple marks for ramming ppl no reason that can't have braking zones telling the wardens that he never touched his brakes in the zone there for triple marks if not a straight DQ!!! FIX THE BUMP PHYSICS!!! Something to clean up ALL the trash that's out there!!!
I'm sure a radar is gonna help to a degree. At least for better drivers to avoid incidents, because right now I often find myself in situations where I don't even know if there are cars beside me and where.
Coincidentally, I was just researching AC and ACC (not to mention GT7) because of the falling player base of FM. I came to the conclusion that I'm not really interested in a full sim. I like racing, but I don't get extra enjoyment out of maximum realism. FM is the right blend of sim and arcade for me. One other problem with ACC is the focus on a narrow range of car classes. I most enjoy hot hatches and classic cars. I'm okay with FM8, even with all it's problems, and I'm disappointed that my racing friends have mostly left it to return to FH5, whose tracks and emphasis on powerbuilds have become boring to me. I'm sure the bugs in FM will be worked out with time, and I have patience. I looked into GT7 as well. It looks to be as good for me as FM8, but I would have to buy a whole new game. After watching lots of comparison videos, I'm not sure it has enough advantages for me to warrant spending the additional money. EA Sports WRC 2023 Rally looks great, but it apparently has no head-to-head racing (such as autocross). Believe it or not, the racing in Wreckfest can be excellent. Before you think it's all about crashing each other, some players like clean racing and set up lobbies for only clean racing. The tracks and physics are actually very good. My main hope is for the new Assetto Corsa due out this year, but it might be too much of a sim for me once again. I'll be watching for it.
I can totally understand if a full sim is not for you. FM and GT7 are quite unique in their approach to racing games, there isn't really anthing else like it anymore. With all the variety and approachable driving model. I share your hope that it will eventually be a better game, but it may take some time. WRC has only racing against ghosts afaik and also rallye is a very different beast to track racing. I've played Dirt Rallye 2, but couldn't really stick with it. AC2 will most likely be very much sim focused like the two previous games, but who knows.
Haha, you probably need to. 😄 Jokes aside, if more realistic GT racing is your thing, ACC is great. A wheel can also really enhance immersion, which is why I play with it mostly (I also suck with controller).
I've played ACC a couple of times on big IRL events (The Bruselles motorshow) as well a few trial weeks. The gamer and IRL motorsport fan in me loves loves LOVES ACC but the reason i don't own it is largely due to the DLC being very pricey and necesarry, as well as needing some kind of organized league to get the most mileage out of the game. Solo is fun but doesn't settle my hunger. Still very usefull for getting reference material for cars you want to recreate in other games (e.g. my silver cup Comtoyou Racing Audi R8 EVO2). Apart from the points you mentioned wich would definatly be very usefull for the majority of the playerbase, i'm gonna add one : Driver swaps. If there's anything league teams on FM could use, it's definatly driver swaps. No more needing to rebuild lobbies from the ground up everytime a stint is finished and trying to get all participants into the right lobby. The cars also look and sound way better than FM admitedly (something i'm kinda bummed about). And if i was allowed to be a bit selfish and immediately take one car out of ACC and put it into FM... M4 GT3 my beloved all the way ❤ (sorry Nissan GT-R you know i love you 😭).
@@lelekilele2PC is too much trouble for what it's's worth for me and too complicated in terms of upgrading and trouble shooting. FM, even in it's current state, gives me enough to do and statisfy me.
I get that ACC with all DLC can be pricy, especially if not on sale. Seeing how the biggest competitor iRacing handles things though, with a subscription fee plus having to buy almost all the content separately, I won't complain about ACC. 😄 Single Player in ACC is lacking for sure, but Multiplayer is really fun, especially in a League-ish format, like LowFuelMotorsport. I couldn't even chose which car to port over to FM, there are so many cool ones that are mostly also very recent. Probably the 720S Evo though, I just love that car. 😊
I hate to disagree with you bro but multi class would not work in FM due to rammers which i dont think will ever stop. For me FM signed its death warrant when they released it on game pass now its full of people who would of never spent £70 or 90 euros 100$ on a racing game i truly believe 95% of bad players are these people acc n gt7 is full of people who paid for game and therefore love racing it would be great tho Le Mans style grids 👍gg
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for Multiclass in FM online lobbies, that would be a disaster. I just wish there more nuanced racing classes to choose from.
I respectfully disagree that 95% of the bad actors in FM are Game Pass Players. If anything I’m am finding the most aggressive players / rammers are individuals that don’t qualify and have the skills to make their way from the back to the front and will ram you if you don’t get out of their way immediately. I am now at a 4400 skill level and S/A rating, and find it very easy to pick out the lower skill game pass “idiots” that are there to ruin other people’s race experiences. To me there are far fewer of these individuals than the much higher skilled “jerks” who no doubt, love to race.
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As I've shared in a recent community post, I still have performance problems with Forza Motorsport, namely really low FPS requiring multiple restarts and these restarts plagued by 4-5 minutes of optimizing shaders. 😒
I'm still working on trying to resolve this, but in the meantime I wanted to still bring you a video, so I opted to go for showing you a different racing game, which you will hopefully enjoy as well. Let me know if would like to see more ACC in the future! 😊
I know I've only scratched the surface with ACC here and what FM could learn from it. Completely forgot to mention working replays for example which I was really happy I could include for you here. 👍
Forza had multiclass before (GT+LMP)
Sadly it has been gone for years now. (FM4)
Old static lobbies where: (FM2)
LMP1
LMP2
GT1
GT2
GT3
GT4
And Multi Class endurance GT1+LMP1
I hope, they will bring back some of this, but chances are very slim sadly.
They wanted less lobbies so they would have fuller lobbies, i can understand that.
But the Multi Class Lobbies had a right to exist as they where very popular.
I loved driving on ACC back in the day but found it needed so much time put into it to stay competitive. A great game if you have the time to dedicate to it though and other driving games can learn a lot from it, even the more casual ones like FM
You're right, you need to put in some time into ACC to compete. But yes, Forza can learn a lot from it, while still staying unique.
Please more racing / track guides also for ACC - Thank you a ton!
More to come!
Thanks for doing Forza content.
I do agree with most of what you said, apart your opinion on controller. ACC is very playable on controller, not only for the crazy fast guyz, but for anyone really (I do have >2000hours on the game exclusively on controller for the past 2 years, so I guess I can speak out of experience here, not to mention other sims which would probably double that number). It offers a huge amount of customization to adjust the controls, that games such as Forza do not. Nowadays I struggle more to play Forza type game than pure sim on controller.
So if any of you is afraid to give it a try because "you don't have a wheel", please don't be. Just try it, you may very well like it.
Very interesting to hear! 👍 I seems that I just personally struggle to play anthing but Forza Horizon or Trackmania on a controller. 😂
So thanks for the input and experience, I hope this will encourage more people to try ACC. 😊
Hello HD, I would definitely enjoy watching some of your racing in other games. I have been following some YT content where AC is used because I gather that it appeals to so many and is a respected platform. For myself I doubt that I will go the wheel/pedal/PC route in the immediate future, however I do think some of the features you discussed would be very beneficial in FM. Damage in multiplayer alone would likely lead to less of the rammers. I am also a data person and would definitely enjoy the additional information provided.
From a visual and audio perspective, I am fine with what FM provides. I have a pretty decent sound system and to my ears, FM sounds very good.
It appears that you have more patience than I possess, having to do multiple restarts due to stability issues would turn me off very quickly. I am disappointed that update 4 appears to lack any details relating to PC stability fixes. I realize it was the holiday season however if there was true ownership, employees at T10 would have accepted an abbreviated holiday and got some much needed things done.
Once again thank you for sharing such excellent content 👍
I can understand not wanting to go the racing wheel route, it's not cheap, needs space and is a bit of rabbit hole once you get into it. 😅
FM does a lot of things right, I just hope that Turn10 will look to other games a bit more and learn from them.
Yes, I am quite patient, but recently my patience was really getting tested. 😒 I seem to have fixed the issue for now mostly, so hopefully no more of this nonsense. 🤞
Thanks for your feedback as always. 😊
I wish Forza had a multiclass hopper but that would probably involve to much thinking for its player base. ACC is awesome though, geek'ed for the GT2 update
Multiclass in FM Multiplayer would probably be a disaster. But I don't understand why there is also none in the career mode (not that I played much of that). Would at least make it more interesting.
GT2 Update will be awesome, hopefully also more popular than GT4. 🙏
FM4 had it in the past, and it was not a disaster, it was really good fun and very popular.
Hard to find footage of the multiplayer hopper lobby: Multi class
But even in the single player it was a game mode in the game
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I don't like ACC's FFB. Which is the main reason I don't play it. I like RaceRoom and AMS2s (after all the updates) FFB, but there isn't really a competitive scene in either of those games. RRE has ranked, but lobbies are still mostly random and rarely many active. The things I'd like to see in Forza from ACC are things you mentioned: Radar, Virtual Mirror, Forza GT split into 3 groups (GT4 (need more GT4 cars), GT3/GTE, and GT2) and actually make an attempt to closely balance them like ACC and IRacing does (though LFM still needed to do more balancing for ACC with ballast). Things you didn't mention, rolling starts and proper triple screen support. I actually like Forza FFB, but it requires a lot of dialing it in, as default FFB is awful. And they need to fix matchmaking. It doesn't work at all. It should more resemble IRacing and LFM for longer races, and more like GT7 for shorter ones.
I feel you, FFB can be a killer. It's for sure very different from FM, but I quite like both. Though FM was a pain to get set up well, while ACC for me just works out of the box. RRE is also a great game, I enjoy that from time to time as well, but yes the Multiplayer is pretty dead sadly.
I'd enjoy seeing your thoughts on ACC. I was considering that or IRacing as I pushed further into sim stuff in the future
Thanks for the feedback. 😊 iRacing always kept me away with their pricing model, just seems a bit ridiculous to me. But from what I've heard it's pretty great and has a lot of variety as well. I'm personally also liking RaceRoom, that has similar variety, but is fairer in terms of pricing. Both look quite dated though imo. A very cheap option is the original Assetto Corsa, which does hold up quite well, if you take the time to get some mods for it.
ACC is a very good game overall with no major flaws that I can think of unlike *cough cough* Forza Motorsport. And as someone who used to play ACC on a gamepad it's surprisingly not that difficult.
I wish the game was more popular amongst the main stream audience
That's cool to hear that you played ACC on a controller. I couldn't do it. Though to be fair anything more difficult than Forza Horizon I struggle with controller. 😅
And yes, if this was a bit more accessible and popular with the mainstream audience, it could be huge.
@@HDeeRacing Well I definitely would love a wheel but I only got a Gamepad atm so gotta make it work somehow 😂
Also because I was on a controller I had to rely hard on the assists so there's that
Absolutely love to see more ACC. Interested in the game. Is it series x or just pc ?
it's PC, Xbox and PS5 (probably PS4 too )
As @alnath01 said, it's on all platforms, but afaik not cross-platform. Biggest playerbase is likely on PC, as that is where it's been out the longest. Thanks for the feedback. 😊
It is on all platforms, but with controller it is undriveable..
Some exemptions, some ppl got it working, but i tried 20/30+ different controller setting and they all failed.
My time spend is only to get it to work with controller, sadly it was never good enough to do a race.
Forza really needs the radar ACC has.
That and maybe per car FOV because T10 lacks the competency to set up cockpit cameras reasonably well themselves.
I don't mind the lack of on the fly TCS/ABS adjustment.
But it would be nice to have a general TCS/ABS/shifting type setting on a per car basis.
However, Forza has tunable shitboxes, which is what I'm all about. Now excuse me while I go back into the D-Class hopper and try to divine the vehicle that will slay the mighty miata (pls nerf)
Yes, radar is the biggest thing for me.
On the fly TC/ABS adjustments aren't super necesary, but at least adjustable per car in the tuning menu or something would be nice.
And yes, the variety is something FM has over most proper racing sims. Good luck on beating the Miata. 😄
Hi,
Just stream whatever you like, that's how the channel will grow - BTW, about TC and brake setup, GT7 has an immediate access to it too .
IMO, ACC is more difficult, more competitive, and thus, has more high-level players - Maybe that's why GT7 and Forza Motorsport are there, they allow lower level players to race, even if there are a lot of high-level in both too .
I've never had a fps issue myself, but I know a french streamer who has the same problem, especially in multiplayer..... I'll check if he also uses an AMD processor (maybe T10 missed something ? )
Thank you for the feedback. 😊
I think GT7 does a lot of things right and better than Forza right now. If it was on PC I would play it for sure.
@@HDeeRacing I wish it was on PC too, but ..... Anyway, even if GT7 has some advantages on FM, I confess I drive more on FM than I do on GT7 - I've had the same bad experience of rammers on GT7 as in FM (not a very high level for now ;-) ) - And Forza has one thing that makes it very interesting for me : rivals ! It helps a lot to improve !
Radar gets unlocked at 5000hrs for each car
🙄
I would appreciate some ACC content and Forza. 🔥
Awesome, thanks for the feedback. 😊
@@HDeeRacing I would include F1 23 for example, too. So you cover sim racing, semi sim (F1) and more an arcade -ish game like Forza. :D but in fact I just enjoy your channel and your way of the videos
@@mr.bernie6198 I was never the biggest fan of F1, so probably not. 😅But I get what you mean, maybe if I have too much time on my hands at some point in the future. 😂
Forza Motorsport made me quit and hop into ACC and I couldn’t of been happier driving with people who actually know how to drive
Great to hear you're happy with ACC. 😊 There is some really great racing to be had. The difference in respectful and clean driving is sometimes astonishing.
Hi HDee, I have Assetto Corsa Competizion which was downloaded with game pass, do I need to purchase the ACC complete DLC pack for $40.00 NZ to be able to play this in multi player ?
That depends. It's not strictly necessary, you will be able to play multiplayer without. You will however be limited in car choice and will not be able to join lobbies for some tracks that are part of a DLC. Give it a try and see if you like it first I would say.
I love to see ACC . I just bought it last week and it’s one of the best games I’ve ever played. Glad to see you enjoying making content on different games :)
ACC has been really well polished over the last years and is one of the best GT Racing experiences imo. I would love to do videos on it as well, so this is also kind of a test if viewers are interested. So thank you for the feedback. 😊👍
On the other hand ACC looks plays just as it is an OLD ASS game that needs to be replaced.
To my eyes ACC looks totally fine. And it's optimized unlike FM, which runs worse and on my system at least also looks worse imo.
Assetto Corsa has got it over fm8
I was quite surprised when getting back into it how different the GT driving feels on ACC. While FM has big improvements in their driving model, ACC still does GT driving like no other game I've played. And the UI is also way cleaner imo and way more responsive.
You may not want to say this but I will because I’ve had it with FM. GT7 and ACC are way better than FM and I have played all the Forza games.
To be fair, both GT7 and ACC have been out for a while. Still FM is dropping the ball right now and really needs to improve massively.
I play the top 3 "simcad" titles. GT7, FM, & ACC. I'm still very new to sim racing maybe only 2 months. I only currently play in career mode in ACC cause I'm still learning the entire game. As of right now I'm playing GT7 more than FM due to how broken that game is in comparison to ACC and GT7. But I play ACC once a week just to keep learning the game so i can play it in multiplayer. FM really needs to upgrade so much of the game I think they dont understand where people are with racing titles
I've always seen FM and GT7 as a gateway to more sim focused titles like ACC or iRacing. The latter require more time to put in to get really good at them, but I find it incredibly rewarding. FM and GT7 however really shine in accessibility and providing variety.
@@HDeeRacing but i think as per your video GT7 & ACC have very good physics, wheel input, multiplayer lobbies, radar, in race tuning. I feel T10 just stop caring about upgrading the dynamics of the game to basically give access to all levels of sim drivers. I feel so cheated because i purchased an series X solely to play FM and 3 months in it's still basically garbage. Maybe in 6 months it will be closer to what i and most Motorsports enthusiasts enjoy playing but for right now the game is unplayable for multiplayer. I'm going to knock that game down to maybe an hour a week. I'm already S class 4800k rated. But I'm going to work on getting A rated in GT7 for now
YES! That's why we run Multiclass ourselves in our Racing League, no one else does it...
But the problem is Multiclass is broken in some ways on FM2023!
For example: setting the race to lets say 60 laps, makes it so that the race ends instantly after the end-race-timer ran out and the complete leaderboard of the slower group is all messed up
> using timed race is the only way but the problem is, the race is finished where ever you're at. You dont get to finish the lap.
I also wish Forza had the telemetry share for other drivers so at least through Simhub we'd be able to get other drivers' information.
They really didn't think about mutliclass when designing their systems it seems. 🙈
Forza Motorsport really could do with that rear view mirror in cockpit view. I tried your tune for the MG in Touring Car it was really good 👍
The mirror has always been missing from both the cockpit and driver views in FM afaik, and I don't know why. With how little mirrors are visible in some cars it just makes it so much more difficult.
Awesome, glad you like the MG tune. 👍
I'm sorry but radar is not gonna help AT ALL!!!! BODY DAMAGE, PROPER penalties and DQ none of this over 10 seconds BS!!!! 4 OR 5 penalties and you're gone from the race!! Double or triple marks for ramming ppl no reason that can't have braking zones telling the wardens that he never touched his brakes in the zone there for triple marks if not a straight DQ!!! FIX THE BUMP PHYSICS!!! Something to clean up ALL the trash that's out there!!!
I'm sure a radar is gonna help to a degree. At least for better drivers to avoid incidents, because right now I often find myself in situations where I don't even know if there are cars beside me and where.
Coincidentally, I was just researching AC and ACC (not to mention GT7) because of the falling player base of FM. I came to the conclusion that I'm not really interested in a full sim. I like racing, but I don't get extra enjoyment out of maximum realism. FM is the right blend of sim and arcade for me. One other problem with ACC is the focus on a narrow range of car classes. I most enjoy hot hatches and classic cars.
I'm okay with FM8, even with all it's problems, and I'm disappointed that my racing friends have mostly left it to return to FH5, whose tracks and emphasis on powerbuilds have become boring to me. I'm sure the bugs in FM will be worked out with time, and I have patience.
I looked into GT7 as well. It looks to be as good for me as FM8, but I would have to buy a whole new game. After watching lots of comparison videos, I'm not sure it has enough advantages for me to warrant spending the additional money.
EA Sports WRC 2023 Rally looks great, but it apparently has no head-to-head racing (such as autocross).
Believe it or not, the racing in Wreckfest can be excellent. Before you think it's all about crashing each other, some players like clean racing and set up lobbies for only clean racing. The tracks and physics are actually very good.
My main hope is for the new Assetto Corsa due out this year, but it might be too much of a sim for me once again. I'll be watching for it.
I can totally understand if a full sim is not for you. FM and GT7 are quite unique in their approach to racing games, there isn't really anthing else like it anymore. With all the variety and approachable driving model. I share your hope that it will eventually be a better game, but it may take some time.
WRC has only racing against ghosts afaik and also rallye is a very different beast to track racing. I've played Dirt Rallye 2, but couldn't really stick with it.
AC2 will most likely be very much sim focused like the two previous games, but who knows.
I still can’t play without the game crashing over and over on AMD 6900XT on a new win 10 install. Even tried win 11
That's annoying, I hope you can sort it out. 🤞
I need to buy a wheel and get this game apparently. I've been hearing about it non-stop lol
Haha, you probably need to. 😄 Jokes aside, if more realistic GT racing is your thing, ACC is great. A wheel can also really enhance immersion, which is why I play with it mostly (I also suck with controller).
I've played ACC a couple of times on big IRL events (The Bruselles motorshow) as well a few trial weeks. The gamer and IRL motorsport fan in me loves loves LOVES ACC but the reason i don't own it is largely due to the DLC being very pricey and necesarry, as well as needing some kind of organized league to get the most mileage out of the game. Solo is fun but doesn't settle my hunger. Still very usefull for getting reference material for cars you want to recreate in other games (e.g. my silver cup Comtoyou Racing Audi R8 EVO2).
Apart from the points you mentioned wich would definatly be very usefull for the majority of the playerbase, i'm gonna add one : Driver swaps. If there's anything league teams on FM could use, it's definatly driver swaps. No more needing to rebuild lobbies from the ground up everytime a stint is finished and trying to get all participants into the right lobby.
The cars also look and sound way better than FM admitedly (something i'm kinda bummed about).
And if i was allowed to be a bit selfish and immediately take one car out of ACC and put it into FM... M4 GT3 my beloved all the way ❤ (sorry Nissan GT-R you know i love you 😭).
Get AC1 and mod it to become best GT sim racer problem solved
@@lelekilele2PC is too much trouble for what it's's worth for me and too complicated in terms of upgrading and trouble shooting. FM, even in it's current state, gives me enough to do and statisfy me.
I get that ACC with all DLC can be pricy, especially if not on sale. Seeing how the biggest competitor iRacing handles things though, with a subscription fee plus having to buy almost all the content separately, I won't complain about ACC. 😄
Single Player in ACC is lacking for sure, but Multiplayer is really fun, especially in a League-ish format, like LowFuelMotorsport.
I couldn't even chose which car to port over to FM, there are so many cool ones that are mostly also very recent. Probably the 720S Evo though, I just love that car. 😊
I hate to disagree with you bro but multi class would not work in FM due to rammers which i dont think will ever stop. For me FM signed its death warrant when they released it on game pass now its full of people who would of never spent £70 or 90 euros 100$ on a racing game i truly believe 95% of bad players are these people acc n gt7 is full of people who paid for game and therefore love racing it would be great tho Le Mans style grids 👍gg
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for Multiclass in FM online lobbies, that would be a disaster. I just wish there more nuanced racing classes to choose from.
I respectfully disagree that 95% of the bad actors in FM are Game Pass Players. If anything I’m am finding the most aggressive players / rammers are individuals that don’t qualify and have the skills to make their way from the back to the front and will ram you if you don’t get out of their way immediately. I am now at a 4400 skill level and S/A rating, and find it very easy to pick out the lower skill game pass “idiots” that are there to ruin other people’s race experiences. To me there are far fewer of these individuals than the much higher skilled “jerks” who no doubt, love to race.