@@letb5569 When you put it like that, the idea of disgust or anger being the leader of the emotions is kinda funny. Like imagine just being born and already feel disgusted and pissed off at the world
Correction: What you THINK they'd fear, in the end, it is your fear, which you may or may not share with them, depending on how well you communicate with them. Sorry if I sounded snobby.
THANK YOU! The "Riley's dad is angry and her mom is depressed" theory misses the whole point of the movie. It was even in the intro- anger keeps things fair, and at the end, sadness is connection. So the dad is led by a desire for fairness and the mom is led by a desire for connection.
Anger is led by injustice, even if that injustice is flawed, and sadness is caused by the loss of something, even if that thing was always there. But yeah, that is great way of explaining it. Sadly, our society is VERY stunted in terms of emotional growth, so not surprised that they take almost everything at surface value and jump to conclusions.
@@swordzanderson5352Well thing is, Riley's parents are super good at being parents. When Riley lashed out at the dinner table. The dad used Authority instead of Raw Anger, being stern with Riley but not yelling. Using a level of you're in trouble but not outright hurting Riley emotionally by yelling at her.
If Riley was not always joyful with Joy on the helm, then it must have been a gross overstatement to say both parents were mostly angry/sad all the time with their anger/sadness on the helm. At least that was my hunch, and this explanation gave me a good reason to stick to it.
Round of applause for the directors executing the idea of how emotions play their roles perfectly. The fact that they put THIS much thought on details such as this shows how well put together both films are
Remember, in the movie, anger is also the emotion for detecting injustice, it tells you when your not being treated fair. Her fathers lead emotion is the one that wants things to be fair and just. Sadness in the emotion that helps build connection and get you help and support when you really need it. Her mom's lead emotion is the one that allows her to express when she needs help.
A note to support the empathy and protection theory, both sadness and anger are calling all of the shots you'll notice that joy and fear are the ones handling the controls.
If you watch what her mother's guiding emotion does throughout the film, the sadness emotion isn't being sad. She's being emotion-focused and empathetic. She keeps everyone in the mind calm enough to make rational decisions.
Right!!! Didn't notice that. Also you can see that the dad's emotions bubble are predominantly yellow, so joy. He's a happy man. And the mom's are mixed but a lot blue, since she has seen her daughter's sadness too....
I can see that the Dad's main emotion is protectiveness... Because he's very calm and gentle... And when used the "foot down" protocol on Riley he didn't raise his voice too high... It's just a man trying to discipline his child... Not the result he expected but his heart is in the right place...
it's the emotion that's had the most character development that leads, so he's probably been angry a lot of his life, but as we can see him now, and very calm and mellow person, despite having that one lead, we even see the little guy rage in his head and he speaks calmly
pretty much like whoever takes charge literally takes charge it just so happens to be that he's matured and grown, so his anger emotion is very down to earth and pain, but it's still the one in charge character development for him and anger
Also it makes sense that the mom and the father would be guided by different emotions since we’re all different, and so different people would be guided by different emotions.
One thing I also noticed if you can explain is, why does it seem like Riley has core memories we went into the heads/minds of other kids Riley‘s age and they were nothing like Riley’s
I absolutely love this take! This is so well thought out, and a genuinely very very cool idea. The thought of primitive / young emotions maturing into more defined and diverse emotions is really really captivating. I would love to see this explored further!!!
I would say the sadness on the mom is more like a mom type of protectivness like "what if shes not ok? Should i spend more time? Will she get hurt if i let her go out? What if she gets lost?"
Yes but that line of thinking is empathy. She's less worried about trying to get Riley to comply using discipline, and more mildly upset/concerned about how Riley is feeling which makes her try to think how Riley is feeling and how to bring the family back to being less unhappy (whether it's due to anger, sadness or fear) and closer together
I got to meet the creator of Joy at school. She was such a joy to be around... Ok jokes aside, she really was a sweetheart, and also I told her how she made my mother cry in the movie lol.
Yeah, cuz in order to have empathy one must be able to feel sadness for another person and to be protective you do have to be a bit explosive with your emotions (time and place) which is something we see out of Anger in the movie.
I love all these theories but I just thought that the main emotion that’s in command was the first emotion that appeared when they were born because we see joy was the first one appear when raley ( I don’t know how to write her names) was born
This connects to my theory for inside two, being she doesn't just get more emotions, but her brain is more mature, and can better differentiate between her emotions and so she learns of more nuanced emotions, for example ennui would be a part of sad and or envy as disgust, but the reason the parents dont havethose emotions is because its Riley's visualization of her parents, so it is protectiveness and empaty, but she only thought there was fear disgust anger sadness and joy.
I want to point out that depression forms typically as sadness in women and aggression in men... I don't know why people have to make everything evil and dark when they could just be working through depression together by the same logic
I think it's not so much depression as unhappiness. Men often don't feel comfortable expressing sadness so they use anger instead which can be destructive, and in Inside Out it's clear that using discipline instead of empathy was a misstep on the dad's part, but it's so very in line with how a lot of men and dads process things and wasn't intended to be malicious or just pure anger. Anger is probably the leader for the dad because of his desire for fairness like others have said, and he doesn't show pure anger much, when he is unhappy with Riley it shows more as an attempt at discipline (probably because he is less skilled at empathy than the mom, but maybe there's other skills he's better at?).
They aren't written as clinically depressed though -- they did nothing of the typical depressed person behavior and none of the plot development suggests so. Also not necessarily true that "depression is sadness in women and anger in men" that's too one dimensional for a complex environment-chemical dependent reaction that may appear differently from person to person
I actually always considered that her parents emotions already went through the realization long that they are all needed and while in this case one emotion makes a suggestion the others do still have valid input or another might just take the lead at any time while Rileys emotions in Inside out 1 havent learned that lesson and preferably follow joys lead.
That one boy at the end of the movie we saw his emotions which was lead by Fear, and especially given the fact that a lot of teens (me included) have lots of doubt about ourselves and the world, it's not fear, its curiousity and questioning literally everything
Ah yes. Someone who understands the core theme of the movie. That emotions are not two dimensional and that letting a single emotion dictate your life is not a good way to grow and develop.
This makes SOOOO much damn sense. Cause Riley's Anger is just straight up Anger. But the Dads version of anger isn't anger but more like a protective guard. Riley's Sadness is straight Sadness, but her Mother's version is kinda like a much more supportive and empathic version. Kinda like a cat that knows when you're down.
Sorrow and empathy are the same, anger and protection too. I spent years studying emotions and what they are just to better control my own. It was ot easy and they're the most complicated thing i will ever study.
Personally I’m more of a fan of the simpler theory that the emotion that leads the pack is the emotion that first appears at birth. Riley’s dad doesn’t have anger issues or anything, he was just born as a grumpy baby. Riley’s mom wasn’t depressed or anything, she just cried first when she was born. Babies experience their first emotions differently from child to child. Some are upset, some happy, etc etc.
I always interpreted it as the leader is just the first to manifest so Riley’s mom immediately cried and Riley’s dad…I don’t know how a baby would express anger but he was probably annoyed by all the light
Thabk you, so many people just think its depression and stuff( im happy with depression rep, but this isnt really what i see), im glad to see someone finally taking a good look into it
Pessimistic people usually have the most empathy. If an optimist tried to make me feel better, I usually just feel patronised or as if they are misunderstanding my emotions. That doesn’t happen with a pessimist
That is not necessarily true. Both are fully capable of being either sensitive to others or completely insensitive. It depends on their methods and their limits when it comes to these philosophies. (Using sensitive instead of empathetic because hypo-empathy is a trait of some disabilities and is not a requirement to be a good person. What most people think of when they say empathy is common or human decency or human rights, which hypo-empathetic people are capable of understanding.)
That does sound like Cinema Therapy's take. I was not a big fan of Inside Out when it came out, but their video on it made it a lot better for me. Loved what they said about the family's reunion by the end
To add to this then...Joy wouldn't just be *happiness* it would be Wonder. And when we get older that wonder fades to the background, but it still present in our lives.
i think its also nice that they are shown as still being controlled by the more simple emotions that riley has because we are from her point of view, showing that she hasnt matured and still doesnt understand these more complex emotions yet.
This is a lot better than the “Riley’s mom is abused” theory. Additionally, I’d like to add that Riley’s emotions are a bit stronger than her parents because she’s still a kid and not fully developed, and her sadness is still sadness and her anger is still anger, while her parents matured and their emotions did too.
I like to think That they parents having an specific emotion on control, is because of that, they are on control. They are emotions that may in the past be their worst enemy, but maybe maturity makes an adult overcome their depression ,their anger, and take control over them.
My theory is that the leader-emotion would be the first emotion that was expressed when they were born. Like Riley's mom maybe first cried ,showing sadness. Or her dad might have yelled when he was born, showing anger.
Both adults are also led by a conference table rather than a control console, reflecting the fact that once a person becomes their own self, emotions are more of advisors rather than players with a controller
It makes sense for the 5 emotions to have different roles as they get older, often times sadness is important for empathy, anger is often protectiveness and fairness, fear can manifest as concern and worry for oneself and others, disgust itself can manifest itself in a more reactive way of concern being sometimes a person who might seem amazing could have something that could actually be hiding something or a being that is clearly disgusting could have problems that impact your body , and there’s joy being content
Okay, i interpret the drums in the beginning as qual and frieren as the flute, because in the past their magic and technique were very prominent, but as the music continues the orchestra starts coming in th3 drums become less prominent because it's become common and more in the past. While the flute(frieren) is still continuing on being in the lead. Only at the end do we hear the drums and flute again for a final reunion
I always thought that it was the first emotion that they showed when they were born, like Riley felt joy in the beginning of the movie, and maybe Riley’s dad was angry first when he was born and her mom sad. That’s what I always thought.
while riley's emotions runs by itself. like if they want riley to be happy, joy took piloting by itself or when they want riley t be scared by something they let fear took it. but in riley's parents. they don't move by alone. like when her mom wants to be care , sadness took command but the action did by joy.
It's also the difference between healthy and unhealthy anger, in the case of her father; healthy anger is sourced from care for others, and is focused, controlled, and directed towards the goal of righting a legitimate wrong or protecting someone.
This is why I can see Love being a new emotion in Inside Out 3. Protectiveness is a fusion of Anger and Love, and Empathy is a fusion of Sadness and Love.
This film literally proves my point that they shouldn’t be adding new emotions. Anxiety? That’s another facet of fear. Same with boredom being another facet of disgust, contentment being another facet of joy, and so on
Maybe also alluding to the idea that some people can't tell complex and simple emotions apart? ..... Like seeing it as anger, but it's really one of the more complex emotions that fall under anger Same with sadness
I’ve never heard of the abuse one but I heard one where it’s because her dad has anger issues and her mom is depressed but I like this theory better tbh. It’s such a mature take on this
As a college student that is majoring in Psychology, this theory is actually pretty reasonable. Back in my Lifespan Development and Adjustment of Psychology classes, in both classes we have discussed that Men tend to be more protective when it comes down to family matters, while woman tend go be more empathetic.
No one in the show display symptoms of abuse, just different methods of tempering their own personal emotions. Even the dad, with anger as the leader (likely since his birth if we’re following Joy and Riley’s case), only shows evidence of having served in the military, not suffering abuse. The military likely left a lasting impact for a kid who was so highly influenced by anger’s passion. He probably got in trouble a lot as a kid, but that doesn’t mean he was a bad kid or had bad patents. Inside his head, you can see that it’s developed to be a very strict militaristic system that relies strongly on self discipline for his emotional balance. So when Riley expressed an emotional outburst, his response was immediate discipline to subdue it before it became a disaster. Contrariwise, the mom has sadness in the lead. She was likely just a bit more introverted as a child by nature, it’s not symptomatic of a bad environment. She likely read books and observed the people around her from an analytical standpoint. Her inner mind is a lot more comfortable and focused more on talking the problem out. She relies on self reflection for her emotional balance, and that is why she wasn’t impressed with her husband’s discipline, as it didn’t address the root of the problem. Riley herself has joy in the lead. It’s high energy, impulsive, and childish. This makes her kind of a late bloomer in the emotional sense, and very prone to bottling up her other emotions. We know for a fact that this is not caused by abuse. As she gets older, the important thing for her will likely be self expression to keep her emotional balance. She’ll need to be obtusely honest with her feelings in order to manage them properly as an adult. Everybody processes emotions differently, and how they do so says a lot about themselves as a person. So I really liked the different emotional leaders and the extra layer of character it gives these brief insights of the mind.
I thought it was because sadness and anger were their first emotion. Like how joy was the first emotion to be born in riley's head, making her the main controller. But this theory is really great and makes much more sense.
I've seen critiques on the fact that other people's emotions look like the people they're piloting, while riley's don't. I think it might be because they might be able to change how they look, and since Riley's are simple and undeveloped, they choose to look different. Or it could just be character design meant to tell Riley's emotions apart from everyone else's
I wonder if maybe the emotions position at the table shows how prominent they are in a characters development and personality. Anger and fear lead the dads head because he takes on a hard appearance to protect his family, but his fear is what drives him to protective as he is.
Finally a mature thematic take on this with subtext and substance.
I agree.
He took this topic on greatly
I cannot agree more
Sigh, the leader is generally the first emotion they feel. The first emotion was joy for Riley, and I guess that is the same for the parents.
@@letb5569 When you put it like that, the idea of disgust or anger being the leader of the emotions is kinda funny.
Like imagine just being born and already feel disgusted and pissed off at the world
yeah I noticed 'saddness' in mom's emotion was much happier then riley's sadness
The protectiveness idea also explains why fear seems to be almost second in command. You protect your family from what you and them fear
Correction: What you THINK they'd fear, in the end, it is your fear, which you may or may not share with them, depending on how well you communicate with them.
Sorry if I sounded snobby.
@@swordzanderson5352no no, cook
@@swordzanderson5352no, no, you might as well be a chef because you are cooking rn
@@swordzanderson5352 you're getting the recipe right
@@swordzanderson5352Keep cooking
Riley's dad uses his anger to protect his family while Riley's mother uses her sadness to connect
That's what the vid said
@@Bagel_Chipwell he was just shortening it
Tf are you a parrot
@@thatperson9whats the point of shortening a short xd
@@zelky1394whats the point of joe caine then ?
THANK YOU! The "Riley's dad is angry and her mom is depressed" theory misses the whole point of the movie. It was even in the intro- anger keeps things fair, and at the end, sadness is connection.
So the dad is led by a desire for fairness and the mom is led by a desire for connection.
Anger is led by injustice, even if that injustice is flawed, and sadness is caused by the loss of something, even if that thing was always there. But yeah, that is great way of explaining it. Sadly, our society is VERY stunted in terms of emotional growth, so not surprised that they take almost everything at surface value and jump to conclusions.
Also the dad is confirmed to used to be in a rock/metal band which is all about anger into good
@@swordzanderson5352Well thing is, Riley's parents are super good at being parents. When Riley lashed out at the dinner table. The dad used Authority instead of Raw Anger, being stern with Riley but not yelling. Using a level of you're in trouble but not outright hurting Riley emotionally by yelling at her.
If Riley was not always joyful with Joy on the helm, then it must have been a gross overstatement to say both parents were mostly angry/sad all the time with their anger/sadness on the helm. At least that was my hunch, and this explanation gave me a good reason to stick to it.
@@swordzanderson5352 Anger can be lead by both of those things, because anger is more complex than people realise.
Anger - Protection
Sadness - Compassion
Makes sense
Yes that makes sense.
Back to the game
Joy - Delusional
I love this because this goes along with the whole emotions are more than face value idea of the movie! Nice.
Same
Same.
Whoever’s reading this remember God loves you so much!
lol face value
@@Kaleb_ScTell him no thank you, I don’t swing that way appreciate it tho.
Round of applause for the directors executing the idea of how emotions play their roles perfectly. The fact that they put THIS much thought on details such as this shows how well put together both films are
Ok, this makes so much more sense than the abuse theory.
Fr
True.
also much better than the gay theory
Whoever’s reading this remember God loves you so much!
Thanks man
Yes man finally someone who makes a good theory rather than projection some hidden trauma on fictional characters.
Finally a good inside out theory as opposed to the other ones I’ve heard
Whoever’s reading this remember God loves you so much!
I know right? No abuse, no being trans for some reason, no evil Bing Bong, etc
@@Kaleb_Scsilence, stop putting this stuff randomly over TH-cam comments
@@Kaleb_ScGod loves you too brother
@@zaBeheaded why r u so pressed
It shows that emotions aren't always out of control or bad when you're an adult
Remember, in the movie, anger is also the emotion for detecting injustice, it tells you when your not being treated fair. Her fathers lead emotion is the one that wants things to be fair and just.
Sadness in the emotion that helps build connection and get you help and support when you really need it. Her mom's lead emotion is the one that allows her to express when she needs help.
the anger part is perfectly shown when Riley cant have dessert.
@@thatperson9Real
A note to support the empathy and protection theory, both sadness and anger are calling all of the shots you'll notice that joy and fear are the ones handling the controls.
If you watch what her mother's guiding emotion does throughout the film, the sadness emotion isn't being sad. She's being emotion-focused and empathetic. She keeps everyone in the mind calm enough to make rational decisions.
I just realized that in the background of the parents mind scenes you're able to see mixed emotion orbs on their shelves
Shit you're right. I never noticed that. That must have been great foreshadowing
Right!!!
Didn't notice that. Also you can see that the dad's emotions bubble are predominantly yellow, so joy. He's a happy man. And the mom's are mixed but a lot blue, since she has seen her daughter's sadness too....
That’s a detail I never noticed before!
OH MY GOD
FORESHADOWING AT ITS PEAK RIGHT THERE
@@azuki_Oa lot of fear as well
I'd categorized the father's lead emotion as more of the protective fury of a dad.
I can see that the Dad's main emotion is protectiveness... Because he's very calm and gentle... And when used the "foot down" protocol on Riley he didn't raise his voice too high... It's just a man trying to discipline his child... Not the result he expected but his heart is in the right place...
Plus, the “foot down” protocol is the absolute last resort
one of my favourite parts of inside out is when we’re in the dads mind and they’re just watching a football game
it's the emotion that's had the most character development that leads, so he's probably been angry a lot of his life, but as we can see him now, and very calm and mellow person, despite having that one lead, we even see the little guy rage in his head and he speaks calmly
pretty much like whoever takes charge literally takes charge it just so happens to be that he's matured and grown, so his anger emotion is very down to earth and pain, but it's still the one in charge character development for him and anger
Also it makes sense that the mom and the father would be guided by different emotions since we’re all different, and so different people would be guided by different emotions.
One thing I also noticed if you can explain is, why does it seem like Riley has core memories we went into the heads/minds of other kids Riley‘s age and they were nothing like Riley’s
Here before that person that says "god loves you" for no absolute reason
I think it's a possibly nod to different upbringings of all children
Everyones brain is different im imaginint. Maybe other peoples core memories arent stored in orbs and just look different
“god loves you” for no absolute reason
@@bebealyssamae6742Jesus loves you, even if you hate him.
Ya know, I wasn’t gonna say it but now you made me wanna.
I absolutely love this take! This is so well thought out, and a genuinely very very cool idea. The thought of primitive / young emotions maturing into more defined and diverse emotions is really really captivating. I would love to see this explored further!!!
I would say the sadness on the mom is more like a mom type of protectivness like "what if shes not ok? Should i spend more time? Will she get hurt if i let her go out? What if she gets lost?"
Yes but that line of thinking is empathy. She's less worried about trying to get Riley to comply using discipline, and more mildly upset/concerned about how Riley is feeling which makes her try to think how Riley is feeling and how to bring the family back to being less unhappy (whether it's due to anger, sadness or fear) and closer together
thats.. empathy..
Those are more fear than sadness
I got to meet the creator of Joy at school. She was such a joy to be around...
Ok jokes aside, she really was a sweetheart, and also I told her how she made my mother cry in the movie lol.
Omg this explanation is actually amazing
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I know.
Whoever’s reading this remember God loves you so much!
Bro,
it’s just a theory…
@@thedarkjw6219 best theory tho. It's just a theory... a game theory
Yeah, cuz in order to have empathy one must be able to feel sadness for another person and to be protective you do have to be a bit explosive with your emotions (time and place) which is something we see out of Anger in the movie.
That makes sense because when the short happened where rileys boyfriend came over anger was piloting when he was being overprotective
I love all these theories but I just thought that the main emotion that’s in command was the first emotion that appeared when they were born because we see joy was the first one appear when raley ( I don’t know how to write her names) was born
So when dad was a baby he was very very angry 😡
This connects to my theory for inside two, being she doesn't just get more emotions, but her brain is more mature, and can better differentiate between her emotions and so she learns of more nuanced emotions, for example ennui would be a part of sad and or envy as disgust, but the reason the parents dont havethose emotions is because its Riley's visualization of her parents, so it is protectiveness and empaty, but she only thought there was fear disgust anger sadness and joy.
I want to point out that depression forms typically as sadness in women and aggression in men... I don't know why people have to make everything evil and dark when they could just be working through depression together by the same logic
I think it's not so much depression as unhappiness. Men often don't feel comfortable expressing sadness so they use anger instead which can be destructive, and in Inside Out it's clear that using discipline instead of empathy was a misstep on the dad's part, but it's so very in line with how a lot of men and dads process things and wasn't intended to be malicious or just pure anger. Anger is probably the leader for the dad because of his desire for fairness like others have said, and he doesn't show pure anger much, when he is unhappy with Riley it shows more as an attempt at discipline (probably because he is less skilled at empathy than the mom, but maybe there's other skills he's better at?).
They aren't written as clinically depressed though -- they did nothing of the typical depressed person behavior and none of the plot development suggests so. Also not necessarily true that "depression is sadness in women and anger in men" that's too one dimensional for a complex environment-chemical dependent reaction that may appear differently from person to person
If you think aggression and sadness are evil and dark then you are either a child or low iq. Aggression is necessary just as much as sadness is.
I really hope Inside Out 2 doesn't ruin this great movie.
Maybe the new emotions merge with the old emotions?
@@Kribykingwha'
it's disney, they will
@@KribykingYeah!! I said this a while back on another video, maybe the mind gets stable enough as it matures for the emotions to merge
It's sad that that's is unlikely
Glad that someone not only understands the movie, but has the maturity that the movie was conveying
I actually always considered that her parents emotions already went through the realization long that they are all needed and while in this case one emotion makes a suggestion the others do still have valid input or another might just take the lead at any time while Rileys emotions in Inside out 1 havent learned that lesson and preferably follow joys lead.
That one boy at the end of the movie we saw his emotions which was lead by Fear, and especially given the fact that a lot of teens (me included) have lots of doubt about ourselves and the world, it's not fear, its curiousity and questioning literally everything
Ah yes. Someone who understands the core theme of the movie. That emotions are not two dimensional and that letting a single emotion dictate your life is not a good way to grow and develop.
Bro Just Saved My Childhood In One Minute And I Respect That.
That makes so much sense and thats a sign of maturity! The emotions evole to a better version of themselves.
I love this theory because it actually makes sense logistically and it isn't just cruelty
I like how the adult emotions are usually sitting down showing how they are more laid back and less active compared to Riley’s younger emotions.
This feels so accurate I wouldn’t call this a theory, I’d call this a fact lol
I just learned to appreciate this movie 10 times more and now i wanna watch it
I feel like that makes more sense then the abuse theory
This makes SOOOO much damn sense. Cause Riley's Anger is just straight up Anger. But the Dads version of anger isn't anger but more like a protective guard. Riley's Sadness is straight Sadness, but her Mother's version is kinda like a much more supportive and empathic version. Kinda like a cat that knows when you're down.
Sorrow and empathy are the same, anger and protection too.
I spent years studying emotions and what they are just to better control my own. It was ot easy and they're the most complicated thing i will ever study.
Personally I’m more of a fan of the simpler theory that the emotion that leads the pack is the emotion that first appears at birth.
Riley’s dad doesn’t have anger issues or anything, he was just born as a grumpy baby.
Riley’s mom wasn’t depressed or anything, she just cried first when she was born.
Babies experience their first emotions differently from child to child. Some are upset, some happy, etc etc.
This is the best inside out theory I've ever seen! It makes more sense then the abuse theory!
So protectiveness might be anger and fear, while empathy might be joy and sadness.
So basically, they just level up.
I always interpreted it as the leader is just the first to manifest so Riley’s mom immediately cried and Riley’s dad…I don’t know how a baby would express anger but he was probably annoyed by all the light
I would have thought that the mom's lead emotion would be fear representing worry for her child
That would make sense and abuse theory would not happen
@@Glitch___ed_stsr"Her mom lives in fear to her abuse" Thats what people would say. Still a dumb ass theory
Thank you for not making it like an abusive thing because those are so easy to do and often just annoying
finally, an inside out theory that i actually like and agree with
Thabk you, so many people just think its depression and stuff( im happy with depression rep, but this isnt really what i see), im glad to see someone finally taking a good look into it
Pessimistic people usually have the most empathy. If an optimist tried to make me feel better, I usually just feel patronised or as if they are misunderstanding my emotions. That doesn’t happen with a pessimist
That is not necessarily true. Both are fully capable of being either sensitive to others or completely insensitive. It depends on their methods and their limits when it comes to these philosophies. (Using sensitive instead of empathetic because hypo-empathy is a trait of some disabilities and is not a requirement to be a good person. What most people think of when they say empathy is common or human decency or human rights, which hypo-empathetic people are capable of understanding.)
Anger is also determination, and fear can be strategy and caution
disgust is totally sass and sarcasm too she's amazing
This is one of the only Disney/Pixar theories ive seen that actually made sense
I just thought the mom was suffering depression or something and the dad just had anger issues. But this does make a LOT of sense
That does sound like Cinema Therapy's take. I was not a big fan of Inside Out when it came out, but their video on it made it a lot better for me. Loved what they said about the family's reunion by the end
To add to this then...Joy wouldn't just be *happiness* it would be Wonder. And when we get older that wonder fades to the background, but it still present in our lives.
Better theory its extremely better
i think its also nice that they are shown as still being controlled by the more simple emotions that riley has because we are from her point of view, showing that she hasnt matured and still doesnt understand these more complex emotions yet.
This is a lot better than the “Riley’s mom is abused” theory. Additionally, I’d like to add that Riley’s emotions are a bit stronger than her parents because she’s still a kid and not fully developed, and her sadness is still sadness and her anger is still anger, while her parents matured and their emotions did too.
I like to think
That they parents having an specific emotion on control, is because of that, they are on control. They are emotions that may in the past be their worst enemy, but maybe maturity makes an adult overcome their depression ,their anger, and take control over them.
Sadness is meant to be represented as passion, and anger is represented as protection.
Speaking of Bingbong I cried real tears when he was forgotten. He was one of my favorite characters
My theory is that the leader-emotion would be the first emotion that was expressed when they were born. Like Riley's mom maybe first cried ,showing sadness. Or her dad might have yelled when he was born, showing anger.
Lowkey I thought that anger in the dad was stoicism and sadness in the mom being compassionate. Was half right.
Both adults are also led by a conference table rather than a control console, reflecting the fact that once a person becomes their own self, emotions are more of advisors rather than players with a controller
This is a way better theory. This explains so much more rather than just assuming that her Mom is depressed or her Dad is abusive.
I think Riley's Father's Rage is more "Passion/Drive" than it is "Protectiveness"
But I could be wrong, Mom's sadness is on point though
Finally someone that tries to give a sensible and more accurate explanation. Nice one!
It makes sense for the 5 emotions to have different roles as they get older, often times sadness is important for empathy, anger is often protectiveness and fairness, fear can manifest as concern and worry for oneself and others, disgust itself can manifest itself in a more reactive way of concern being sometimes a person who might seem amazing could have something that could actually be hiding something or a being that is clearly disgusting could have problems that impact your body , and there’s joy being content
Also joy is her leading emotion because it was the first emotion she felt so her mom and dad probably had sadness and anger as they first emotion
Okay, i interpret the drums in the beginning as qual and frieren as the flute, because in the past their magic and technique were very prominent, but as the music continues the orchestra starts coming in th3 drums become less prominent because it's become common and more in the past. While the flute(frieren) is still continuing on being in the lead. Only at the end do we hear the drums and flute again for a final reunion
I always thought that it was the first emotion that they showed when they were born, like Riley felt joy in the beginning of the movie, and maybe Riley’s dad was angry first when he was born and her mom sad. That’s what I always thought.
while riley's emotions runs by itself. like if they want riley to be happy, joy took piloting by itself or when they want riley t be scared by something they let fear took it. but in riley's parents. they don't move by alone. like when her mom wants to be care , sadness took command but the action did by joy.
It's also the difference between healthy and unhealthy anger, in the case of her father; healthy anger is sourced from care for others, and is focused, controlled, and directed towards the goal of righting a legitimate wrong or protecting someone.
This is why I can see Love being a new emotion in Inside Out 3. Protectiveness is a fusion of Anger and Love, and Empathy is a fusion of Sadness and Love.
If sadness means empathy for the mother, then anger must mean protectiveness for the father
This film literally proves my point that they shouldn’t be adding new emotions. Anxiety? That’s another facet of fear. Same with boredom being another facet of disgust, contentment being another facet of joy, and so on
And remember that the pilot emotion is only there based on which emotion best suits the current stage in life.
Finally someone looking at this form a better standpoint I kept seeing “her moms depressed her dads abusive” this is much better and more likely true
What? An actually good theory that is connected to the deeper meaning of the story and hints dropped throughout it?! Preposterous!
Maybe also alluding to the idea that some people can't tell complex and simple emotions apart? ..... Like seeing it as anger, but it's really one of the more complex emotions that fall under anger
Same with sadness
My emotion is led by anger and sadness well mostly rather than joy or disgustes since i was lonely since i was a kid and was bullied
And the reason joy leads Riley is because she’s a kid who doesn’t understand the dangers in life, just the good things. Makes complete sense.
The emotion that leads you is the first emotion you had
I’ve never heard of the abuse one but I heard one where it’s because her dad has anger issues and her mom is depressed but I like this theory better tbh. It’s such a mature take on this
As a college student that is majoring in Psychology, this theory is actually pretty reasonable.
Back in my Lifespan Development and Adjustment of Psychology classes, in both classes we have discussed that Men tend to be more protective when it comes down to family matters, while woman tend go be more empathetic.
If they keep consistency I wouldn't mind more of these movies that go through Riley's entire life
Wow! Lovely positive short, this has for some reason brightened my day. thank you! :D
No one in the show display symptoms of abuse, just different methods of tempering their own personal emotions.
Even the dad, with anger as the leader (likely since his birth if we’re following Joy and Riley’s case), only shows evidence of having served in the military, not suffering abuse. The military likely left a lasting impact for a kid who was so highly influenced by anger’s passion. He probably got in trouble a lot as a kid, but that doesn’t mean he was a bad kid or had bad patents. Inside his head, you can see that it’s developed to be a very strict militaristic system that relies strongly on self discipline for his emotional balance. So when Riley expressed an emotional outburst, his response was immediate discipline to subdue it before it became a disaster.
Contrariwise, the mom has sadness in the lead. She was likely just a bit more introverted as a child by nature, it’s not symptomatic of a bad environment. She likely read books and observed the people around her from an analytical standpoint. Her inner mind is a lot more comfortable and focused more on talking the problem out. She relies on self reflection for her emotional balance, and that is why she wasn’t impressed with her husband’s discipline, as it didn’t address the root of the problem.
Riley herself has joy in the lead. It’s high energy, impulsive, and childish. This makes her kind of a late bloomer in the emotional sense, and very prone to bottling up her other emotions. We know for a fact that this is not caused by abuse. As she gets older, the important thing for her will likely be self expression to keep her emotional balance. She’ll need to be obtusely honest with her feelings in order to manage them properly as an adult.
Everybody processes emotions differently, and how they do so says a lot about themselves as a person. So I really liked the different emotional leaders and the extra layer of character it gives these brief insights of the mind.
The emotions in Riley’s parents are simply more mature than Riley’s emotions
Her mother is worried for Riley alot and her father anger finds injustice and fair acts also to protect Riley
I thought it was because sadness and anger were their first emotion. Like how joy was the first emotion to be born in riley's head, making her the main controller. But this theory is really great and makes much more sense.
I've seen critiques on the fact that other people's emotions look like the people they're piloting, while riley's don't. I think it might be because they might be able to change how they look, and since Riley's are simple and undeveloped, they choose to look different. Or it could just be character design meant to tell Riley's emotions apart from everyone else's
I wonder if maybe the emotions position at the table shows how prominent they are in a characters development and personality. Anger and fear lead the dads head because he takes on a hard appearance to protect his family, but his fear is what drives him to protective as he is.
There are different parts of every emotion. Every emotion has more than one thing that you can describe about it.
People really discovering people can have strong connections to anger and sadness. Without meaning they're abusive and depressed.