There are a number of barristers and solicitors who should be investigated by the bar for professional misconduct. This oily little creature is definitely one of them. He's either incompetent or he's criminally negligent, either way he should not be allowed to continue to practice law.
@@Eric-ot7en With an adversarial system, that will always be the case. The problem emerges when one side has too much money, power and leverage that they can effectively game the system in their favour. However that said, some of the lawyers who were either part of POL, or the firms that were hired by them, had definitely at the very least committed misconduct, a few inadvertently, others deliberately, some through sheer incompetence. I do expect the bar to investigate and sanction a number of solicitors and barristers associated with both criminal and civil cases.
Altman QC - Brian Altman’s role in perpetuating the Post Office scandal is self-evident. He gave advice which helped a bent client keep a lid on a gargantuan miscarriage of justice. Whether that was down to any professional failings is in issue. Altman had sight of clear evidence of criminal activity (orders to shred documents, misleading a court), massive failures of disclosure (the Misra case), prosecutor misconduct (the Hamilton case), yet he somehow managed to give advices (and, later, set court strategies) which were neatly in line with his client’s wishes
@@davidworsley7969 So a Solicitor who was advising the Post Office on prosecutions has never seen Mrs Misra on TV? I wonder if he would claim he didn't recognise Paula Vennells either?
@@davidworsley7969so he hasn’t seen the news, seen a newspaper article, online news etc? If most people following the enquiry knows what she looks like then there’s no question whatsoever that he would have known. He’s playing dumb just like he did under questioning. He’s a lying cunt like most of the post office witnesses.
@@davidworsley7969 Are you honestly saying a lawyer answering questions at a public inquiry wouldn’t watch any of the previous witnesses. Mrs Misra is there every day and Mr Henry is a regular questioner on her behalf. This isn't a criminal court case where you’re not supposed to know what previous witnesses had said.
There are several lawyers who have let down both themselves and the legal profession. There are a couple whose conduct even fell below what is legally defensible in my view and who need to be prosecuted by the Police and CPS on our behalf.
I thought very early on all this could not be done without the solicitors and barristers ignoring the law. None of this could have happened without them. I simply don't know how 700 plus Judges could have all been duped in the same way? Maybe the whole system is rotten. He who has the most money wins.
@@chrisfell5073 Judges and juries and defence and prosecution are all dependent upon what evidence is made available. Don't blame anyone other than those knowingly withholding evidence!!!!
@@ronyagpd I'm pretty sure CP were forgotten by all including the Judge. Independent Expert - one Judge even asked GJ if he was influenced by his employer still took 'his' evidence. It shows you that Judges don't read what is produced as evidence and stop these glaring errors. What maniac came up with the fact that computer evidence is correct. New is almost always wrong. This now makes the defendant guilty unless proved innocent.
@@ronyagpd What I cannot understand is that there was no evidence of theft - high living, expensive holidays, new cars etc. So why did all the judges and juries conclude that the charges were proved beyond reasonable doubt? It seems to me that they all said that if the PO claimed the defendant was guilty then they must be guilty. Why weren't there any enquiring, sceptical judges and juries? These trials went through on the nod apparently. Shame on the lot of them.
I believe there is a case being prepared against a number lawyers involved. Not sure if he’s one. They must be investigated and called to account. This awful tragic matter is going to go on and on.
5.26 Do these witnesses not realise that once evasion tactics have failed, they operate with twice the force AGAINST you? This is a textbook case of how the right not to self incriminate is an eggshell protection against forensic questioning that inexorably leads to there being exposed a factual situation completely devasting to the witness. A half decent barrister could expose this but Henry is devastating, pitching the sense of outrage perfectly and adopting just the right withering line. Why don't they just own up and put themselves out of their misery?
These people are all the same… not sure can’t recall it was t me .. what I wrote doesn’t mean what it said. Blah blah blah. Contemptible behaviour at best.
Edward Henry KC is someone who I’d never want to be on the wrong side of and who I would absolutely want on my side if ever I ended up in court.
He's a very sharp operator, and has a lovely way of being politely menacing to potential hostile witnesses :)
There are a number of barristers and solicitors who should be investigated by the bar for professional misconduct. This oily little creature is definitely one of them. He's either incompetent or he's criminally negligent, either way he should not be allowed to continue to practice law.
Sadly nobody in a wig will face any sanctions. The club mentality will prorect them.
@MrDarkweaver Oily is definitely the word. Its sad that lawyers can care more about winning g then the truth.
@@Eric-ot7en With an adversarial system, that will always be the case. The problem emerges when one side has too much money, power and leverage that they can effectively game the system in their favour.
However that said, some of the lawyers who were either part of POL, or the firms that were hired by them, had definitely at the very least committed misconduct, a few inadvertently, others deliberately, some through sheer incompetence.
I do expect the bar to investigate and sanction a number of solicitors and barristers associated with both criminal and civil cases.
Altman QC - Brian Altman’s role in perpetuating the Post Office scandal is self-evident. He gave advice which helped a bent client keep a lid on a gargantuan miscarriage of justice. Whether that was down to any professional failings is in issue. Altman had sight of clear evidence of criminal activity (orders to shred documents, misleading a court), massive failures of disclosure (the Misra case), prosecutor misconduct (the Hamilton case), yet he somehow managed to give advices (and, later, set court strategies) which were neatly in line with his client’s wishes
…….and be put on trial himself
What a disgraceful witness .Absolutely appalling .
He said he didn't know who was sitting next to Mr Henry (Seema Misra) Why wouldn't he just admit he knew who she was? UNBELIEVABLE!
He had never met her-Was he supposed to guess??
@@davidworsley7969 So a Solicitor who was advising the Post Office on prosecutions has never seen Mrs Misra on TV? I wonder if he would claim he didn't recognise Paula Vennells either?
@@davidworsley7969so he hasn’t seen the news, seen a newspaper article, online news etc? If most people following the enquiry knows what she looks like then there’s no question whatsoever that he would have known. He’s playing dumb just like he did under questioning. He’s a lying cunt like most of the post office witnesses.
@@davidworsley7969 Are you honestly saying a lawyer answering questions at a public inquiry wouldn’t watch any of the previous witnesses. Mrs Misra is there every day and Mr Henry is a regular questioner on her behalf. This isn't a criminal court case where you’re not supposed to know what previous witnesses had said.
they should be sitting in orange boiler suits not suits and ties..
All these lawyers for the inquiry are FANTASTIC 👍👍
They are aren't they. Some of the best barristers in the country.
The KC is fantastic.
I don't recall i don't recall i don't recall
Can remember to throw someone else under the bus.
But can't recall any of his responsibility.
Throwing everyone else under the bus.
These people need jailed for the corruption they committed
Martin Smith’s career is over
It’s over
He will never work as a lawyer again
That's rubbish smith will prosper
There are several lawyers who have let down both themselves and the legal profession. There are a couple whose conduct even fell below what is legally defensible in my view and who need to be prosecuted by the Police and CPS on our behalf.
Agreed but you can bet it'll just be solicitors. The shower in wigs will escape of course.
I thought very early on all this could not be done without the solicitors and barristers ignoring the law. None of this could have happened without them. I simply don't know how 700 plus Judges could have all been duped in the same way? Maybe the whole system is rotten. He who has the most money wins.
@@chrisfell5073 Judges and juries and defence and prosecution are all dependent upon what evidence is made available. Don't blame anyone other than those knowingly withholding evidence!!!!
@@ronyagpd I'm pretty sure CP were forgotten by all including the Judge. Independent Expert - one Judge even asked GJ if he was influenced by his employer still took 'his' evidence. It shows you that Judges don't read what is produced as evidence and stop these glaring errors. What maniac came up with the fact that computer evidence is correct. New is almost always wrong. This now makes the defendant guilty unless proved innocent.
@@ronyagpd What I cannot understand is that there was no evidence of theft - high living, expensive holidays, new cars etc. So why did all the judges and juries conclude that the charges were proved beyond reasonable doubt? It seems to me that they all said that if the PO claimed the defendant was guilty then they must be guilty. Why weren't there any enquiring, sceptical judges and juries? These trials went through on the nod apparently. Shame on the lot of them.
Another one to lock up 😂
This is a classicfitup😮
I know for sure how I would like to enlighten Martin Smith, and the word Kangaroo comes to mind.
That would surely soften this despicable man's cough.
Lots of people earning money ruining the lives of others.
I can’t listen o this waffle , poor misra , great tone mr lawyer
I believe there is a case being prepared against a number lawyers involved. Not sure if he’s one. They must be investigated and called to account. This awful tragic matter is going to go on and on.
I want to see Jarnail S and Rod W get theirs I must say.
This lawyer admitted he was invompetent on numerous ocassions
5.26 Do these witnesses not realise that once evasion tactics have failed, they operate with twice the force AGAINST you?
This is a textbook case of how the right not to self incriminate is an eggshell protection against forensic questioning that inexorably leads to there being exposed a factual situation completely devasting to the witness.
A half decent barrister could expose this but Henry is devastating, pitching the sense of outrage perfectly and adopting just the right withering line.
Why don't they just own up and put themselves out of their misery?
Tremendous take ^ 💯 agree
The lives of the sub postmasters have been affected so badly, I'm not sure what could make it right.
Justice.
@@derekibison6644I agree, but for those who have died it is too late. This is an absolutely appalling tragedy for so many people.
@@alidabaxter5849 I think so and symptomatic of a wider malaise in the UK where self gain and entitlement comes before everything.
6.45 a missing page ? Thats a consequence of shredding evidence mate. Sheffield Tribunal Sept 7th 1998 - Sept 10th 2004
He's a crook
Long pauses in case I say something that might incriminate me
This man is lying and the law firm he works for should be sued and made bankrupt.
What filth is Smith. Gutter lawyer.
These people are all the same… not sure can’t recall it was t me .. what I wrote doesn’t mean what it said. Blah blah blah. Contemptible behaviour at best.
Says he didn't know mrs misra was beside him. How sad.
He don't give a fck