Also didn't mention that in forgery you need special element character to get highest quality material or else players will only get low end material. Characters which enhances damage they doesn't benifit the whole team but only benifit the same element character. In case a player doesn't have that character of that element then leveling the other character is waste of resources. Developers want players to have 2 character of every element leveled up or else they can't enjoy the game. May be it can be a reason they easily give 5 Star characters since they know F2P can't level up every character. Is this a game even meant for F2P to begin with??
@@Nole369 what? lol the forge that costs 40 waveplaters gives the same rates, doesn't depend on the character you pick, also you have to synth the gold tier items anyways before UL60 as they rarely drop. also, you don't know shit about the game's mechanics I see, while some character's outro does buff the elemental dmg of another character, those buffer characters other than yinlin and soon, chingli are all 4 star. it's not about having "2 of every element", best team for jiyan is him, mortefi and verina, 3 separate elements. jhinsi needs different elements to be effective. It is possible to level up multiple characters, you need at least 3 teams to clear the tower anyways so that's 9 right there . f2p does not mean you get to have everything for free, not sure what zoomer mentality this is. you are free to give the game engagement and serve as a marketing device for those people who can spend on the game. you're not the target audience, you're a billboard, think about that.
Agree. For players who have played old PC MMORPG games such as Lineage, Rising Force Online, Cabal, Perfect World etc. Games like Genshin and Wuwa are still relatively easy.
I am a F2P Gacha veteran. I shall brave the drought with my head high and go broke saluting the gacha gods as my soul withers from the drought and comes out on the other side with ToA full clears.
Here is a tip if your F2P in wuwa, don't spend your pulls on limit weapon banner because if you want a character you really like and lose the 50/50 there is still some pulls left (it's your choice tho)
@@erlindaedquila329nah man, they got rid of the 50/50 on weapon banner SPECIFICALLY to make getting the 5 star weapons easier. If you get the limited character it's a good idea to just go for the weapon too. The 4 star weapons in this game are hot garbage when compared to the limited weapons. I'd almost suggest going for the weapon first, but you're probably better off trying for the characters since you may lose the 50/50. You're legit kneecapping your account by not going for them. Haven't touched the standard weapon banner though 😂
@@zacziggarot the real problem is the if you don't have enough astrite for the weapon banner 😂 I already got 2 5 star standard weapon, lustrous rasor and emerald of Genesis
Quick tip of u reach if you reach level 58 you should ignore everything and farm shell credits everyday. 6 times a day till level 60 can give you more than 7 million shell credits. Just ignore tacet fields untill they give more rewards.
@@NoradNoxtus only other thing that changes after your world level increases is the difficulty. What difference does it make if you are 58 or 68 if you can reduce the world level....you have plenty of time to do everything you need to do to get levelled.
I got her in 6 pulls 😂 I primed the banner by sinking an extra 40 pulls into the Jinshi banner (I wanted Sanhua and Yangyang dupes, but got Danjin 😑) guess I'll prime the weapon banner now 🤷
I just use genshit tactic: Supports will stay on lvl 70 (with maxed talents and skills + lvl 70 weapon) --- echos lvl 20 max Main dps to lvl 80 with lvl 80 weapon and maxed talents. I dont move to next character after all talents from boss materials are lvled. -- echos lvl 25 After AR 60 i will not increase world lvl at all and keep on 80 (character lvl) for time being as rewards are realy low. Instead i will wait till i hit 70-80 AR if there drops at this rank are increased (its unknown). However once i am done with main dps characters, i will rank up supports and unlock only their talents slots (on top left and right) for stat increase. Supports will slowly lvl up when i kill monsters in the world. As for echo xp --- i find farming bosses is best for the cost, due to getting double materials.
@@luxifer185 my skill levels are capped. My characters are capped, what am I supposed to do other than level the echoes. I am on UL 46, it'll take me another 10-15 days to get to UL 50, considering the grind is getting slower and slower.
Finally a content creator who speaks about this. Been commenting about the scarcity of Shell Credits forever. My Yinlin & Jinhsi are still incomplete. My s6 Sanhua & s1 Calcharo are just there doing nothing. And there's weapons & echo upgrade costs too.. :'( Most of my resources went into building the Jiyan/Mortefi/Verina team. Only f2p understand f2p issues. Thank you! At UL 54, I'm close to broke. Good thing they have the double drop event now so 1 day of farming credits gets you somewhere at least.
I wouldnt say shell credits are scarce, especially with how often they seem to be doing the double drop events for them. I have Jinhsi and Yinlin maxed at lv 70, Verina, Jianxin, and Spectro Rover almost there, and i still have 1.5m credits. Also, echo cost is basically nothing. it's 100 credits per 1000 exp. So to get an echo to +20 that's only 8000 credits.
@@XenoWarsBro getting to level 70 is nothing, it gets way more expensive after and you will need to build 7-9 characters for tower, you need like at least 5 mil creds once you reach UL 60
for me since its early stages of the game and there is nothing to do im already leveling up all of my collection to level 70 with 5 talents each. this way is more efficient since you only need to upgrade once and thats it which is the oppostie of tacet field limitless grind wasting resource for 1% crit higher
You don't have to max your characters, I just get them to 69, 79, 39, or whatever and earn that last 1000 exp farming echoes instead of wasting items. Also gives you a little more control over the difficulty level. I'm probly just gonna stop at 83 or 85, I have no quests, there's literally no rush 🤷
i dont like the double drops event the forgery and simulation cuz they run it at the same time and you get to choose which is such a bad idea when you already run out of shells and you want to level the characters skills and now you have to choose which one should you go what a dumb event
It was better than the shit tacet field event 😂 during that one I logged on, saw the event, saw I didn't even have the energy to do two fields, and just logged back off. For the forgery event I farmed Yuanwu's talent mats, then still used the remaining energy farming more talent mats, I was able to fill out his entire skill tree after a day and a half. Otherwise you'd have to farm for about half a week. It was a really great event. I finished 4 characters' skill trees
You have this issue in every gacha game. People overfarm end game content and level up too many characters before they have enough material to max out their main team. im AR54 and never felt the need to farm currency. I also only farmed tacet fields during the event. Same with genshin with people burning away their resources on RNG mechanics without focusing on permanent guaranteed buffs from talents.
Same, I have my main team at 80, okey that my skills and weapon are not maxed but I have 8-9million credits and enough mats to level up another char or two at 80, and enough to level up to 25 my echoes. And if you are asking how is that possible? well, I didnt play alot of gatchas but I know how they work... Snow break, genshin, star rail etc... so when I started Wuthering I just activated save mode... I didnt level up s** till I saw what I was really aiming, no leveling weapons, echoes or characters, just the bare minimum XD. I didnt even spend my tuners for low level echoes, and I waited for the data bank level to be at max and farm the golden ones.Ç Now I just do daily missions, a bit exploration for chest I have left, any event that is up, and thats it... is not that hard, 8-9m, 20k astrite for next char since I skiped jinhsi. and union level 52
same, I only maxed out Jiyan in every WL, then follow up Verina. And now I do Jinhsi. Everything goes smoothly if the dps can basically solo everything
TLDR - bro woke up when he couldn't advance his next skill. This is 101 gacha grind experience: explore the map and find all the chests and stuff, then you will have enough money.
@@AuroraBPolaris I did. I'm at 100% almost everywhere, and where I amn't, I'm at 95%. Did all the main quests, the character quest, the sub quest, all the events, everything I could. And yet I have no money left, I'm broke.
For years, this has been my strategy in raising units that I used for Genshin and Star Rail and now to Wuthering Waves, prioritize number 1: 1. Weapon 2. Character Level 3. Priority Talent/Traces 4. Artifacts/ Echoes 5. Minority Traces (if you are a simp) Hope I helped
@@shachi142 wuthering waves has already printed enough money to keep it going for the next 3 years at least. Judging by the Mount firmament area though I'm kind of worried that future areas are going to have some serious level scaling problems. We aren't even getting a new area in 1.2 so the game's player base will probably fall off a bit
I Advice Keeping Your Characters 2 Levels Away From Max Level Cuz U Get Free Exp From Beating Echoes Around The Map ( to the current team) That'd Save U Lot Of Shall Credit & Exp
What I did when I was in the early 40's UL was to run 1 shell credits challenge per day to accumulate capital, and now at 52 UL (before leaving up my newly acquired Jinhsi) withe help of the double drop event, I had more than 10 million shell credits 👍 Another thing I'm doing is to only level 2 teams with the dps's to max level of my UL, the sub-dps's to ten exp levels below that, and my supports to twenty levels below the dps's to save resources till I have a good crush before investing more in them 🌸🌸🌸
I hope they do smt like making it so the weapon type specific drops can drop from elite enemies, of course along with making the gold drops guaranteed at the highest level. Right now grinding for anything outside of echos is pretty difficult since you need like 30 of the gold mats when they aren’t even guaranteed even with the current double drop event
Off-topic: The crit dmg in WuWa is a bit missleading. So, subtract the extra 100% crit dmg before you go 1:2 ratio. So, ur 80/200 Jinhsi is actually just 80/100 Idk why WuWa did this, its just a simple number change.
It's not really misleading, you're just comparing it to Genshin's base cdmg. In WuWa, characters start at 150% cdmg, while in Genshin, they start at 50%. The reason why WuWa does it is because Echoes in general do not have rolls for you to get extra crit from. You can get anywhere from 6.3 to 10.5 crit rate and double that for cdmg, but you can't upgrade them beyond those values like you can with Genshin, that's why WuWa starts with 150% cdmg. Now, if you're asking what ratios you should build for each char, the answer is simple. If they're using a crit wep, go for 70/270, if they're not, go for 70/220. Your mileage may vary from echo rolls and extra crit subs from wep and char nodes, but in general, this is a good rule of thumb.
People are really confused about the Crit.DMG, even redditors doing crazy ratio computations and stuffs, when it's basically just a multiplier of your overall ATK/DMG dealt. So when you have 150% Crit.DMG as base, it'll be 100% DMG dealt ×1.5 (literally multiply by 1.5), where as 200% is ×2 DMG, 300% is triple, i.e ×3, and so on... EDIT: This is the same for every other game that implements a critical attack/damage system, they are just *multipliers*. EDIT #2: Just a follow-up, most of the people are really worried about hitting 100% base crit. rate because some characters and consumables have crit. rate buffs (also weapons with crit. rate increases as they level up). Having 100% crit. rate means you deal crit. DMG all the time, so going beyond 100% is a waste of sub stat for echoes. Between 50% and 70% crit. rate is the ideal percentage. Just don't get confused about the ratio stuff.
@@g.griffin1255 Genshin and Wuwa don't have different base CritDMG rates, it's just for whatever reason Wuwa displays it as the final percentage you multiply your damage with, rather than a bonus percentage that you have to add yourself. Wuwa's base 150% "multiplier" is the same as Genshin's 50% "bonus", it's just being presented differently. So how I'll try to explain it is, the Wuwa multiplier means "Your DMG when you Crit = 150% of DMG when you don't Crit", and Genshin's bonus means "Add 50% to your DMG multiplier when you Crit". Wuwa's Calculation: Take your DMG and multiply it by 150% [ DMG x 1.50 = CritDMG ] Genshin's Calculation: Take your DMG and add 50% to the multiplier [ DMG x (1.0 + 0.50) = CritDMG ] When you do the addition part of Genshin's formula, you can see it becomes the exact same as Wuwa's. All that's different is Wuwa already gives you the final percentage to multiply with, while Genshin has you do an extra step to add the bonus percentage to the multiplier. This is the reason people advise players coming from Genshin to subtract 100% of the CritDMG percentage from Wuwa's, since it essentially reverts the equation back into how Genshin would start the formula. Here's an example if you were to just take the 150% from Wuwa and use it in Genshin's formula: [ DMG x (1.0 + 1.50) = CritDMG ] After you do the the addition, it would become [ DMG x 2.50 = CritDMG ] which would make you believe you have a 250% multiplier, when you really don't. I hope this didn't come out as rude, just wanted to help better explain why they're actually the same base value even though they're being displayed differently for each game.
i'm currently at levl 55 and trust me when i say this 1.shell credit is very important..u will run out of it after lv.50 as ascending the weapons and character+skills becomes expensive (use the hologram points and the wood in exchange for shell credit) 2.dont ascend all of your characters..invest only on one first(to lv.80 +maxing the skills and weapon) 3.hit the talent material domain only and stop farming echos on taced fields as they can be found in the world
The upgrading cost aimed for the sky and touched the moon, when i hit Ul 50 i began upgrading all of the characters that i use with out looking at the cost and before i noticed 2 million credits and all of my resonator exp was gone just like that. I haven't even touched the weapons yet...
much like Genshin before I let the supports stay at 10-20 levels below the dps so that saves a lot of mats and credits as well. when there's a 2x drop rate for simulation use all 3 attempts at shell credits we gonna need those credits soon for level 90 units and weapons. Its never a waste to farm credits we run out of those very fast
I think people are spoiled on how quick we can level characters. From what I remember, it took me months to get Ganyu (my first dps) to level 80 on Genshin, level her artifacts, etc., and that was just with the proper main stats, I never even bothered trying to get better substats, because in all my time playing, I got one maybe two 5 star Cryo Goblets, and crit pieces could also suck to drop. So it looks funny seeing people whinning because it might take them a week to level up a character.
@@grapehool I can get my characters up to max level now but I'm kind of hesitant to do it because the game just came out and it feels like I should pace myself 😅 I raised Jinshi up to 85 just to deal with the level 83 overworld monsters, Jiyan is level 81 I stopped leveling my characters all the way, instead leaving that last thousand exp for each level to level up manually through echo farming. I feel like it's saving me quite a bit of resources
I’ve played some grind focused games before, and I can see how they get you to want that instant progression and just spend money, but it never really feels unfair, if anything it’s balanced for a busy person, jump on and do dailies, spend credits for mats and stock up for level ups.
Easy. Research on the materials for characters and weapons. Not all characters requires leveling all 5 of their talents eg. Verina and Baizhi. 1. Gather the 60 plants 2. Spend waveplates on bosses and weekly bosses (prefarm for characters in mind till whatever level you want) 3. Hunt for echos world wide and make use of enchanted echos weekly on 4 cost echoes 4. Do dailies for free echo 5. After step 2 is done, spend waveplates for weapons (do weapon domains) 6. Build dps and 1 support that is always 10 levels behind. Mostly use dps on field so eliminate need of sub dps for now. 7. Only do tacet fields for double event since it's a waste of waveplates and can get better echo rates when targeting farming 8. After step 5, once you spent waveplates on prefarming characters and weapons then do it for shell credits. 9. Everyone maxed out, focus on getting their echoes and grind for tuners.
As someone who played gacha games their whole life Upgrading Skills and Characters is top priority guys , The last will always be the tacet or artifact :) And also a Lvl 70 character with a non built support on their team can take down 93% of the world can put on you
Basically echos are unpredictable while leveling skills aren't, so it would be better to finish what you know what will finish faster rather than echos which could finish fast or take a long time to finish
I actually came from another gacha game before switching to WuWa, and that one had insane amounts of easy gold, the equivalent of shells. So when I watched a WuWa CC advise people to spend Waveplates for shells in the Simulation challenge, I laughed. "Are you nuts? There's a ton of giveaway shell credits, so no, thank you." Little did I know, now that I am at UL 51, the depth and breadth of our many senpai's wisdom. I was wrong to laugh big time, and am humbled today indeed.
I started gathering everything when I was level 45 because I already knew it was going to be expensive. I have everything for four characters to get to level 80.
i just yesterday went broke for Changli, first time being broke and at UL56, its easy enough to farm shell credits i just spend like 2 weeks not doing that and pre farming everything for Changli edit: i also still have 55 crystal solvents, which could net me 6.5mil today
the resource drought on wuwa is one of the biggest ones ive seen like the absolute difference from 70 to 80 ONLY is probably more than 70 to 90 on... idk Hi3 or Genshin
When the x2 event drop I made sure to get all the mats needed for changli. With just Danjin and jinhsi at lvl 80 and their skills near max I able to save even more for when I want another char to lvl 80. Curently at 56 I'll be set for when I can push the 3 to lvl 90. The rest will follow soon.
This is why i run bad echo substats, cause the character skills will just give more damage for investment than rolling substats day in day out. I will say though that they should either double the rewards or halve the waveplate consumption on everything
I know that in every gacha games you need to focus on your mats before farming their artifacts but I decided to build Jinhsi echoes first even though I'm ul39. She's currently 35/210, I just need 1 more cost 3 gold so I can leave farming that domain, and just farm gold 5* cost 4 Jue. Depending on her crit rate, I might buy the bp ones even though I decided to stay f2p for this game.
So far im at UL53. I have 3 characters fully upgraded (ascention, skills, echos, weapons all of it) and working on 4th one as we speak. Its insanely expensive. But you know what? Im cool with that. Always something to do. Always something to keep in mind.
I'm f2p have 5 characters lv 80 + 2 lv 70 with most skills leveled and still have ~3m credits and never did a Simulation Training. How? I have 100% on exploration, quests and events. Also they gave out a ton of credits in the first few weeks of the game.
well we just have to tough it out. Once we max the char, weapon, and skills, its pretty much set and once you finished their echo set you have a character you can rely on any content
Um, I'd say take advantage of farming materials / shell credits, whatever you need during the x2 reward events. And yes, focus your resources on your main team first and go character by character. F2p gacha veteran here.
I'm f2p and barely active, but my resources are alright and my characters are decently built, able to clear hologram 4(not bothered with 5+ yet) and easily kill everything on the map. I don't really care about the tower of adversity yet since I know I can't beat it yet. I'm very sure majority of people that is having resources issues, are people that has zero to no self restrain and cannot manage their resources well, or simply don't play at all. Cause I sometimes miss couples of days not logging in, and it's still not quite an issue for me, at least yet I guess. Farming tacet fields are the most wasteful thing you can use your waveplates on, it's simply not worth it to focus on it. Just farm the tacet fields whenever you don't have anything else to farm for anymore.
I'm an F2P player but I didn't encounter such Problem, I maxed Jinshi, Yinlin, and Verina in Lvl, Forte and weapon just in 2 the moment I reached UL50, since I need my waveplates to reached max amount again for the forge. I just prioritized to maxed the characters I need in world exploration. And by the way I'm not that Heavy grinder type of F2P, I just play it casually.
I'm still using 4* lvl 50 weapons, my echos for support are meh, probably only main echo upgraded I guess, my skills also barely leveled up, I only built Yinlin, and kinda built? Calcharo, will do the same for changli and encore
If I may, from my experience, money or ascension material isn't what you should worry about. Echoes ascension material is, you'll quickly go bankrupt if you don't spend those wisely and don't farm them
As soon as I hit UL 50 I started pre farming for Changli. I skipped Jinhsi and only brought 3 characters to 80 with lvl 7 talents, no weapons past 70 and all the supports were on pause where they were at. I still ran out of shell credits before Changli was even useable, nowhere close to max. I pumped at least 10 of the waveplate consumables into shell credits as well as cleared out every shop I could just to get her up and running and she still isnt maxed out.
There always has to be something to play for. If we could just have everything maxed out easily then the game would get boring much faster. The good part is that once you hit Union 50 it slows down a ton. and Once you hit Union 60 you peaked, atleast for now. So focus on your main team and then slowly build 1 unit at a time.
it is heavy but if you just focus on it once a day and not feel the need to rush, it comes np. got 3 characters at 80 atm, the hardest part imo is getting the echoes lol. man thats painful, even with the 50% echo food, it feels rough to try and get like a 3 star bird with spectro damage AND THEN get lucky enough to land crit rate and crit dmg.. oof lol
Hmm I never level multiple characters without reason in any gacha especially coming from Princess Connect where mana shortage was a problem early if you don't plan ahead. I never worry about currency and mats as a result.
I'm F2P, i played WuWa since its release, i only use the item to get 60 wave platesfor double mats event and farming on tacet fields, since I notice that its hard to get those waveplate. For ascension mats, i will take it slow, wait for my waveplates to cd and farm what i need. once done i dont push it. I stop and wait for mu waveplates to cd and thats it.
Please dont tell people they dont have to level their characters up. Someone told me that in Genshin and it ruined my abyss runs. Yes. You need to invest in your characters and level them up so that you can ascend them to get to 90.
You are better off having 9 level 70 characters than 3 level 80. Because you want to start doing TOA as soon as you can. You don't have to finish it. But doing some (even just 15/30) will give you a lot of extra Astrites.
I went broke leveling my 3 main DPS to 80 and getting all their weapons to level 80. Crazy how fast 2+ mil credits can disappear. Luckily a day or 2 later the double rewards event started and now I got about 2 mil credits again. Feel like that's all gonna disappear when Zhezhi comes out, but I'm ok with that. Imma just leave my healer and subDPS(I just use them for the outro buff) at level 70 for now though I'll prefarm to get Zhezhi to level 80 when she releases.
fun fact: if ur like me and slaughter everything that moves in all map u actually earn a loooooot of character EXP for free just by enjoying murder/farming echoes taking away that cost so all ya need ta lvl up are weapons, talents and echoes. ur asking at what rate? one full map clear 40%ish exp of a level. ~just 40%?! its too long to clear the map just for that and yap yapy yappy yapp. ikr? well i am mental, but... in contrast my friends... it took me 2 years leveling up one character throu constant nonstop usage(thats all sumeru, fontaine and other areas i didnt felt like going in again) to go from lvl 86 to currently Lv87 85%EXP in Genshin, i could pobly be lvl 88 rn but god no thx ive run out of things to do and burnout. so. feel like slaugtering a buncha echoes n sheet still not worth it? i jus do it coz its fun♪
Not to say its not expensive but due to the weekly limit in materials you're not going to hit the wall that hard. By the time the next week rolls in and you have more of the Calamity materials you already restocked on credits and materials. The real pain is trying to build up a new set of artifacts while leveling up characters, THAT will choke you out of all mats.
I rarely upgrade my characters using xp potion or credits because xp gained from gameplay is way bigger than what genshin gives. You can fully upgrade all your chars levels without spending a single potion or credit just by placing a level 1 char in a strong team and farming. I only used some potions with Jinhsi since she is a main dps. You can farm weapons also but the amount is tiny compared to XP and shell credits saved. As an example i have 6 chars at level 70 and 7 chars between 60 and 70 only 2 were upgraded using potions. If i had used Credits instead for sure i would be broken. I have no reason to rush the level since if you do that all the xp you will get when you reach max level is lost. Instead i just upgrade all the skills and weapons Do that only if you need some level to fight the enemies or to get all stars from tower but for me the enemies are too weak to justify this and also the rewards for full completion are small. As long as you can do the content without leveling it is ok because it increases the challenge I have never done TF except for the double drop event and im doing double drop for skill instead of credits
@@XenoWars XP from each kill ranges from 25 to 100 and this is multiplied by 3 since all chars get the same amount even if they are off field. You also get some credits and materials from each kill. From what I could check the amount does not change too much based on union level so you can use a lower ul to clear enemies faster and then go up to spend the stamina next day. Usually you can upgrade 3 chars around level 60 by one level after killing for 4/5 hours so you will reach the max level in the future much faster than genshin for example. Genshin gives one level for some months of playing which is a insane amount of time compared to wuwa.
First game where Grinding the money or currency dungeon is a Real necessity, yet once you do it often it becomes natural.Really it’s OK guys don’t worry and don’t whine about it enjoy the game it’s a great game and fights aren’t boring . I mean… it gives you something to do with the game really. I actually enjoy going through the process of leveling things up here
I am currently in Union Level 39 should I go for level 45 ( for weapon crate ) or upgrade my best characters ( currently calcharo, encore, and chiangling got recently) are maxed. And I have 3 more fav character including ling ( glacio boy 5 star ) and yangyang at full 6 resonance chains
how i spend waveplates or other limited resources in other games like genshin or star rail and so on is mostly boss materials and forgery domains for a set few characters then i work on shell credits as needed throughout and leave tacets alone since you get a ton of echos just playing the game and starting out you get a decent amount of echo level up material if you do the events and after that i do prioritize events that give bonus drops like the simulation one i only did shell since i had plenty character and weapon enhancement materials and i do do the chords one also since it is more worth it during the event than it is out side and you gonna have to eventually so while in the moment not super great per say still worth to me
I really appriciate this video, maybe i'm not a free to play but as the title says is a warning, a pretty big warning. In my case, when I reach level 40 (i'm 37) i won't do the mission to ascend the world, because I normally struggle with the resources in a big regard, so i'll ascend the world very surely when I feel ready to and have more than enough resources for, I dunno, 2-3 extra chracters than the ones i'm interested for.
If u want to make it efficient with ur waveplates. It is better for u to ascend the world. U got increase of base reward and chance for better reward for everything waveplates related. Thou one ur reach rank lvl 50. And upgraded to SOL3 Lvl 6. Some domains like shell credit, char and weapon exp. Already maxed up the reward. Tacet field also maxed up at that rank lvl 50. Rushing further than that not worth it. Also if u want to farm overlord or calamity class echo or overworld echo... U can lower ur sol3 lvl for 12 hour. It is easier for u to kill them because it is weaker at lower world lvl. Furthermore ,echo drop chance and rarity is depending on data bank lvl.. not the world lvl. Thou make sure u do waveplates related things at higher world lvl. U can revert back ur sol3 lvl for that.. CD is 12 hr.
Glad ive barely touched tacet fields since I started, they just dont seem worth it. Ill get their echos to +25 and i'll worry about perfecting them when I have enough characters to start farming echo exp.
I don't even remember how much I have lol but I have experience in gacha and I'm very good at taking care of my resources, even to level up my characters and echoes I use the exact amount of exp
plot twist: you need spend your waveplates on materials/credits from UL 50-60 for lvl 90 materials required to level up 4 characters (mine is cal,jinhsi,rover and yinlin), so if you think you don't need to farm credits coz you have currently 2-3m saved, you thought wrong lmao!
I dropped my Lvl 53 account. Nearly 100% the maps, data bank 21. Due to insane luck? Lost to Lingyang on Jinshi, hardest pity to Yinlin and her weapon. I pretty much don't have anything else aside from MC and Encore carrying me through the contents. My alt account however is at LVL 35 atm, with Jinshi+signature and Jiyan+razor 5s. Got Jiyan like 1st roll then early Jinshi(50/50) and Weapon. Was it a bad idea? I'm not sure, but I feel much satisfied even though I hate getting 4 star echoes.
I absolutely FAILED to mention this but if you still haven't, take advantage of the shops for Shell Credits and anything else you need!!!
and save 1260 corals for convene tickets or whatever that is
Also didn't mention that in forgery you need special element character to get highest quality material or else players will only get low end material.
Characters which enhances damage they doesn't benifit the whole team but only benifit the same element character. In case a player doesn't have that character of that element then leveling the other character is waste of resources.
Developers want players to have 2 character of every element leveled up or else they can't enjoy the game.
May be it can be a reason they easily give 5 Star characters since they know F2P can't level up every character.
Is this a game even meant for F2P to begin with??
@@Nole369Lol what a dumb take
@@Nole369 what? lol the forge that costs 40 waveplaters gives the same rates, doesn't depend on the character you pick, also you have to synth the gold tier items anyways before UL60 as they rarely drop. also, you don't know shit about the game's mechanics I see, while some character's outro does buff the elemental dmg of another character, those buffer characters other than yinlin and soon, chingli are all 4 star. it's not about having "2 of every element", best team for jiyan is him, mortefi and verina, 3 separate elements. jhinsi needs different elements to be effective.
It is possible to level up multiple characters, you need at least 3 teams to clear the tower anyways so that's 9 right there . f2p does not mean you get to have everything for free, not sure what zoomer mentality this is. you are free to give the game engagement and serve as a marketing device for those people who can spend on the game. you're not the target audience, you're a billboard, think about that.
@@NoradNoxtus Go and try clearing the forgery with other element then recommended...you won't even get purple at level 70.
It takes longer to get the material but there is no rush
Agree. For players who have played old PC MMORPG games such as Lineage, Rising Force Online, Cabal, Perfect World etc. Games like Genshin and Wuwa are still relatively easy.
No rush especially since Lv 70 characters can tackle everything the game has to offer anyway.
I can't do 21 star in tower of adversity so no@@XenoWars
@@ichigo-d.naruto-Anos-rimuru Literally skill issue. People have been full starring for a while now.
@@ichigo-d.naruto-Anos-rimuru I can't do 21 stars even with 80. I will try again when I'm 90😹
I am a F2P Gacha veteran. I shall brave the drought with my head high and go broke saluting the gacha gods as my soul withers from the drought and comes out on the other side with ToA full clears.
You'll get 14k total worth of astrites in 1.2 and 1.2 my skip patch since I spent all my astrites on getting jinhsi and her weapon on 1.1
Here is a tip if your F2P in wuwa, don't spend your pulls on limit weapon banner because if you want a character you really like and lose the 50/50 there is still some pulls left (it's your choice tho)
o7
@@erlindaedquila329nah man, they got rid of the 50/50 on weapon banner SPECIFICALLY to make getting the 5 star weapons easier. If you get the limited character it's a good idea to just go for the weapon too. The 4 star weapons in this game are hot garbage when compared to the limited weapons. I'd almost suggest going for the weapon first, but you're probably better off trying for the characters since you may lose the 50/50. You're legit kneecapping your account by not going for them.
Haven't touched the standard weapon banner though 😂
@@zacziggarot the real problem is the if you don't have enough astrite for the weapon banner 😂
I already got 2 5 star standard weapon, lustrous rasor and emerald of Genesis
Always remember a gacha is a marathon not a sprint. Enjoy it and have fun
Quick tip of u reach if you reach level 58 you should ignore everything and farm shell credits everyday. 6 times a day till level 60 can give you more than 7 million shell credits. Just ignore tacet fields untill they give more rewards.
it doesn't really matter...you can roll your world level back if necessary and get anything you need if the jump makes things too tough.
@@pdmerritt not sure what that has to do with anything relating to the sheer amount of credits you need to level up past 70
@@NoradNoxtus only other thing that changes after your world level increases is the difficulty. What difference does it make if you are 58 or 68 if you can reduce the world level....you have plenty of time to do everything you need to do to get levelled.
@@pdmerrittskill issue
@@pdmerritt he wasn't talking about skill issue dude.
Me who is watching this after blowing through all the materials 😢
Lmao relatable 😂
Lmao I prefarmed for Changli, completed everything EXCEPT the shell credits so now I'm gonna panic-farm those 😂
nah i'd go broke for changli when she comes
@@R1TTU4L valid
based.
I got her in 6 pulls 😂 I primed the banner by sinking an extra 40 pulls into the Jinshi banner (I wanted Sanhua and Yangyang dupes, but got Danjin 😑) guess I'll prime the weapon banner now 🤷
@@zacziggarot dida the same. 60 pulls into Jinshi and now to the weapon
going broke rn, worth it tho
I just use genshit tactic:
Supports will stay on lvl 70 (with maxed talents and skills + lvl 70 weapon) --- echos lvl 20 max
Main dps to lvl 80 with lvl 80 weapon and maxed talents. I dont move to next character after all talents from boss materials are lvled. -- echos lvl 25
After AR 60 i will not increase world lvl at all and keep on 80 (character lvl) for time being as rewards are realy low. Instead i will wait till i hit 70-80 AR if there drops at this rank are increased (its unknown).
However once i am done with main dps characters, i will rank up supports and unlock only their talents slots (on top left and right) for stat increase. Supports will slowly lvl up when i kill monsters in the world.
As for echo xp --- i find farming bosses is best for the cost, due to getting double materials.
not bad imma use this thanks
You can increase world level for the rewards and you can always lower it by clicking Sol phase in the menu below your birthday.
I USE THISSSSSS
You guys level up your echo for support past 10? Damn
@@luxifer185 my skill levels are capped. My characters are capped, what am I supposed to do other than level the echoes. I am on UL 46, it'll take me another 10-15 days to get to UL 50, considering the grind is getting slower and slower.
Finally a content creator who speaks about this. Been commenting about the scarcity of Shell Credits forever. My Yinlin & Jinhsi are still incomplete. My s6 Sanhua & s1 Calcharo are just there doing nothing. And there's weapons & echo upgrade costs too.. :'( Most of my resources went into building the Jiyan/Mortefi/Verina team. Only f2p understand f2p issues. Thank you! At UL 54, I'm close to broke. Good thing they have the double drop event now so 1 day of farming credits gets you somewhere at least.
I wouldnt say shell credits are scarce, especially with how often they seem to be doing the double drop events for them. I have Jinhsi and Yinlin maxed at lv 70, Verina, Jianxin, and Spectro Rover almost there, and i still have 1.5m credits. Also, echo cost is basically nothing. it's 100 credits per 1000 exp. So to get an echo to +20 that's only 8000 credits.
@@XenoWarsBro getting to level 70 is nothing, it gets way more expensive after and you will need to build 7-9 characters for tower, you need like at least 5 mil creds once you reach UL 60
for me since its early stages of the game and there is nothing to do im already leveling up all of my collection to level 70 with 5 talents each. this way is more efficient since you only need to upgrade once and thats it which is the oppostie of tacet field limitless grind wasting resource for 1% crit higher
What does leveling up collection mean? I'm genuinely asking cuz I don't know
@@vijaayreddy437 by 'collection' they mean the characters they currently have.
@@WI3H7LLY_W4NTED ahhh okay
I literally after maybe 5-7 days could only max one character talent weapon and lv 80😢
80 to 90 going to be brutal
@@KaloCu prefarming all of it, but no shell credits
@@anotherBee123 same 🗿
You don't have to max your characters, I just get them to 69, 79, 39, or whatever and earn that last 1000 exp farming echoes instead of wasting items. Also gives you a little more control over the difficulty level. I'm probly just gonna stop at 83 or 85, I have no quests, there's literally no rush 🤷
Have decided early on to stay on level 40 until the game forces me to level up by making a new area level-locked.
Just live on the edge man, i always float between 500k - 10k credits.
my advice for players, once you hit 40, start preparing a team for 50 first and foremost and then other characters you want to prep for
Thank you for the advice 🙏
i dont like the double drops event the forgery and simulation cuz they run it at the same time and you get to choose which is such a bad idea
when you already run out of shells and you want to level the characters skills and now you have to choose which one should you go
what a dumb event
Im always farming shell credits with those events, and for talents I have just my main team at level 5 which seems fine for now so no problem
It was better than the shit tacet field event 😂 during that one I logged on, saw the event, saw I didn't even have the energy to do two fields, and just logged back off.
For the forgery event I farmed Yuanwu's talent mats, then still used the remaining energy farming more talent mats, I was able to fill out his entire skill tree after a day and a half. Otherwise you'd have to farm for about half a week. It was a really great event. I finished 4 characters' skill trees
You have this issue in every gacha game. People overfarm end game content and level up too many characters before they have enough material to max out their main team. im AR54 and never felt the need to farm currency. I also only farmed tacet fields during the event.
Same with genshin with people burning away their resources on RNG mechanics without focusing on permanent guaranteed buffs from talents.
Same, I have my main team at 80, okey that my skills and weapon are not maxed but I have 8-9million credits and enough mats to level up another char or two at 80, and enough to level up to 25 my echoes. And if you are asking how is that possible? well, I didnt play alot of gatchas but I know how they work... Snow break, genshin, star rail etc... so when I started Wuthering I just activated save mode... I didnt level up s** till I saw what I was really aiming, no leveling weapons, echoes or characters, just the bare minimum XD. I didnt even spend my tuners for low level echoes, and I waited for the data bank level to be at max and farm the golden ones.Ç
Now I just do daily missions, a bit exploration for chest I have left, any event that is up, and thats it... is not that hard, 8-9m, 20k astrite for next char since I skiped jinhsi. and union level 52
same, I only maxed out Jiyan in every WL, then follow up Verina. And now I do Jinhsi. Everything goes smoothly if the dps can basically solo everything
Me as a F2p with my Jinhsi built to max at UL55: welp that’s a bit late
Just hit 50 a week ago, and now I'm getting this video.
TLDR - bro woke up when he couldn't advance his next skill. This is 101 gacha grind experience: explore the map and find all the chests and stuff, then you will have enough money.
Everything is at 100% now, I'm still days away from level 60
@@zacziggarotdid you thought about food? When you make food, you get cook XP, and with enough cook XP, you get astrite and surely XP to level up
Frfr, 100% the areas and you're set
@@AuroraBPolaris I did. I'm at 100% almost everywhere, and where I amn't, I'm at 95%. Did all the main quests, the character quest, the sub quest, all the events, everything I could. And yet I have no money left, I'm broke.
Guys is echo substatt rng fixed or not?
For years, this has been my strategy in raising units that I used for Genshin and Star Rail and now to Wuthering Waves, prioritize number 1:
1. Weapon
2. Character Level
3. Priority Talent/Traces
4. Artifacts/ Echoes
5. Minority Traces (if you are a simp)
Hope I helped
NEVER SPEND, JUST SKIP GACHA OR QUIT THE GAME
Imagine skipping the gacha in a gacha game. There's a word for that: masochist
@@zacziggarot of course. gacha games are 100% diminished returns over each year. And when service ends it becomes no value. so why not? lol
@@shachi142 wuthering waves has already printed enough money to keep it going for the next 3 years at least. Judging by the Mount firmament area though I'm kind of worried that future areas are going to have some serious level scaling problems. We aren't even getting a new area in 1.2 so the game's player base will probably fall off a bit
@@zacziggarot we will see how it goes, new anime games coming up
@@shachi142 between WuWa and Zenless I don't have anymore space left 😂
I did was just farm shell credits first for food and synthesis material. Just take your time, no need to rush. I'm union 53 btw.
There no reason to rush after lvl 50 😂 everything gets a lot harder to upgrade I'm also UL 52 just doing forgery and shell credit
this is not an issue if you plan to play the game for a long time
I Advice Keeping Your Characters 2 Levels Away From Max Level
Cuz U Get Free Exp From Beating Echoes Around The Map ( to the current team)
That'd Save U Lot Of Shall Credit & Exp
What I did when I was in the early 40's UL was to run 1 shell credits challenge per day to accumulate capital, and now at 52 UL (before leaving up my newly acquired Jinhsi) withe help of the double drop event, I had more than 10 million shell credits 👍 Another thing I'm doing is to only level 2 teams with the dps's to max level of my UL, the sub-dps's to ten exp levels below that, and my supports to twenty levels below the dps's to save resources till I have a good crush before investing more in them 🌸🌸🌸
UL 60 is when the real grind begins
Im at 62 and chilling with 3, 90 lvl characs and 1 80 lvl and max talents with 3, 5 star weapons lvl 90. never played more then 1 hr continuously.
I hope they do smt like making it so the weapon type specific drops can drop from elite enemies, of course along with making the gold drops guaranteed at the highest level. Right now grinding for anything outside of echos is pretty difficult since you need like 30 of the gold mats when they aren’t even guaranteed even with the current double drop event
the algorithm gave me this video AFTER I already went broke
Off-topic:
The crit dmg in WuWa is a bit missleading.
So, subtract the extra 100% crit dmg before you go 1:2 ratio.
So, ur 80/200 Jinhsi is actually just 80/100
Idk why WuWa did this, its just a simple number change.
@@nath4096 SAY WHAT
So do you need 2× crit dmg or more than that?
It's not really misleading, you're just comparing it to Genshin's base cdmg. In WuWa, characters start at 150% cdmg, while in Genshin, they start at 50%. The reason why WuWa does it is because Echoes in general do not have rolls for you to get extra crit from. You can get anywhere from 6.3 to 10.5 crit rate and double that for cdmg, but you can't upgrade them beyond those values like you can with Genshin, that's why WuWa starts with 150% cdmg. Now, if you're asking what ratios you should build for each char, the answer is simple. If they're using a crit wep, go for 70/270, if they're not, go for 70/220. Your mileage may vary from echo rolls and extra crit subs from wep and char nodes, but in general, this is a good rule of thumb.
People are really confused about the Crit.DMG, even redditors doing crazy ratio computations and stuffs, when it's basically just a multiplier of your overall ATK/DMG dealt. So when you have 150% Crit.DMG as base, it'll be 100% DMG dealt ×1.5 (literally multiply by 1.5), where as 200% is ×2 DMG, 300% is triple, i.e ×3, and so on...
EDIT: This is the same for every other game that implements a critical attack/damage system, they are just *multipliers*.
EDIT #2: Just a follow-up, most of the people are really worried about hitting 100% base crit. rate because some characters and consumables have crit. rate buffs (also weapons with crit. rate increases as they level up). Having 100% crit. rate means you deal crit. DMG all the time, so going beyond 100% is a waste of sub stat for echoes. Between 50% and 70% crit. rate is the ideal percentage. Just don't get confused about the ratio stuff.
@@g.griffin1255 Genshin and Wuwa don't have different base CritDMG rates, it's just for whatever reason Wuwa displays it as the final percentage you multiply your damage with, rather than a bonus percentage that you have to add yourself. Wuwa's base 150% "multiplier" is the same as Genshin's 50% "bonus", it's just being presented differently.
So how I'll try to explain it is, the Wuwa multiplier means "Your DMG when you Crit = 150% of DMG when you don't Crit", and Genshin's bonus means "Add 50% to your DMG multiplier when you Crit".
Wuwa's Calculation: Take your DMG and multiply it by 150% [ DMG x 1.50 = CritDMG ]
Genshin's Calculation: Take your DMG and add 50% to the multiplier [ DMG x (1.0 + 0.50) = CritDMG ]
When you do the addition part of Genshin's formula, you can see it becomes the exact same as Wuwa's.
All that's different is Wuwa already gives you the final percentage to multiply with, while Genshin has you do an extra step to add the bonus percentage to the multiplier. This is the reason people advise players coming from Genshin to subtract 100% of the CritDMG percentage from Wuwa's, since it essentially reverts the equation back into how Genshin would start the formula.
Here's an example if you were to just take the 150% from Wuwa and use it in Genshin's formula: [ DMG x (1.0 + 1.50) = CritDMG ]
After you do the the addition, it would become [ DMG x 2.50 = CritDMG ] which would make you believe you have a 250% multiplier, when you really don't.
I hope this didn't come out as rude, just wanted to help better explain why they're actually the same base value even though they're being displayed differently for each game.
i'm currently at levl 55 and trust me when i say this
1.shell credit is very important..u will run out of it after lv.50 as ascending the weapons and character+skills becomes expensive
(use the hologram points and the wood in exchange for shell credit)
2.dont ascend all of your characters..invest only on one first(to lv.80 +maxing the skills and weapon)
3.hit the talent material domain only and stop farming echos on taced fields as they can be found in the world
The upgrading cost aimed for the sky and touched the moon, when i hit Ul 50 i began upgrading all of the characters that i use with out looking at the cost and before i noticed 2 million credits and all of my resonator exp was gone just like that. I haven't even touched the weapons yet...
damnnn I monumentally fucked up spending DAYS worth of materials on fkn purple echoes 💀💀💀
Oh damn prayers for you😢
My problems it's the echo exp... it's really awful...
much like Genshin before I let the supports stay at 10-20 levels below the dps so that saves a lot of mats and credits as well.
when there's a 2x drop rate for simulation use all 3 attempts at shell credits we gonna need those credits soon for level 90 units and weapons.
Its never a waste to farm credits we run out of those very fast
I think people are spoiled on how quick we can level characters. From what I remember, it took me months to get Ganyu (my first dps) to level 80 on Genshin, level her artifacts, etc., and that was just with the proper main stats, I never even bothered trying to get better substats, because in all my time playing, I got one maybe two 5 star Cryo Goblets, and crit pieces could also suck to drop. So it looks funny seeing people whinning because it might take them a week to level up a character.
Thanks for the warning. 😊 I think I'm just going to focus on jihshi, rover, encore, verina.
Jinshi is probably the only character I want to max out since she gives archon vibes
Hell yeah @@zacziggarot
@@grapehool I can get my characters up to max level now but I'm kind of hesitant to do it because the game just came out and it feels like I should pace myself 😅 I raised Jinshi up to 85 just to deal with the level 83 overworld monsters, Jiyan is level 81
I stopped leveling my characters all the way, instead leaving that last thousand exp for each level to level up manually through echo farming. I feel like it's saving me quite a bit of resources
I’ve played some grind focused games before, and I can see how they get you to want that instant progression and just spend money, but it never really feels unfair, if anything it’s balanced for a busy person, jump on and do dailies, spend credits for mats and stock up for level ups.
Easy. Research on the materials for characters and weapons. Not all characters requires leveling all 5 of their talents eg. Verina and Baizhi.
1. Gather the 60 plants
2. Spend waveplates on bosses and weekly bosses (prefarm for characters in mind till whatever level you want)
3. Hunt for echos world wide and make use of enchanted echos weekly on 4 cost echoes
4. Do dailies for free echo
5. After step 2 is done, spend waveplates for weapons (do weapon domains)
6. Build dps and 1 support that is always 10 levels behind. Mostly use dps on field so eliminate need of sub dps for now.
7. Only do tacet fields for double event since it's a waste of waveplates and can get better echo rates when targeting farming
8. After step 5, once you spent waveplates on prefarming characters and weapons then do it for shell credits.
9. Everyone maxed out, focus on getting their echoes and grind for tuners.
As someone who played gacha games their whole life
Upgrading Skills and Characters is top priority guys , The last will always be the tacet or artifact :)
And also a Lvl 70 character with a non built support on their team can take down 93% of the world can put on you
Basically echos are unpredictable while leveling skills aren't, so it would be better to finish what you know what will finish faster rather than echos which could finish fast or take a long time to finish
I actually came from another gacha game before switching to WuWa, and that one had insane amounts of easy gold, the equivalent of shells. So when I watched a WuWa CC advise people to spend Waveplates for shells in the Simulation challenge, I laughed. "Are you nuts? There's a ton of giveaway shell credits, so no, thank you." Little did I know, now that I am at UL 51, the depth and breadth of our many senpai's wisdom. I was wrong to laugh big time, and am humbled today indeed.
I started gathering everything when I was level 45 because I already knew it was going to be expensive. I have everything for four characters to get to level 80.
i just yesterday went broke for Changli, first time being broke and at UL56, its easy enough to farm shell credits i just spend like 2 weeks not doing that and pre farming everything for Changli
edit: i also still have 55 crystal solvents, which could net me 6.5mil today
the resource drought on wuwa is one of the biggest ones ive seen
like the absolute difference from 70 to 80 ONLY is probably more than 70 to 90 on...
idk Hi3 or Genshin
I deliberately spread out the xp to secondary characters, at least until they reached lvl 60 & yes.. it broke my shell credit & sanity 😅
When the x2 event drop I made sure to get all the mats needed for changli. With just Danjin and jinhsi at lvl 80 and their skills near max I able to save even more for when I want another char to lvl 80. Curently at 56 I'll be set for when I can push the 3 to lvl 90. The rest will follow soon.
They just added like 100 liquid metal to the illusive realm shop, that's like 3 gold 🤣
I start farming as SOON as I get them. For example I have ALL of the resources to carry Changli, her weapon, and her Forte to max.
This is why i run bad echo substats, cause the character skills will just give more damage for investment than rolling substats day in day out. I will say though that they should either double the rewards or halve the waveplate consumption on everything
This is end game . You remove around 30% of enemy resistance due to previous gap level. In Both tower and Holograms . Ofc its expensive.
I know that in every gacha games you need to focus on your mats before farming their artifacts but I decided to build Jinhsi echoes first even though I'm ul39. She's currently 35/210, I just need 1 more cost 3 gold so I can leave farming that domain, and just farm gold 5* cost 4 Jue. Depending on her crit rate, I might buy the bp ones even though I decided to stay f2p for this game.
So far im at UL53. I have 3 characters fully upgraded (ascention, skills, echos, weapons all of it) and working on 4th one as we speak. Its insanely expensive. But you know what? Im cool with that. Always something to do. Always something to keep in mind.
I'm f2p have 5 characters lv 80 + 2 lv 70 with most skills leveled and still have ~3m credits and never did a Simulation Training. How? I have 100% on exploration, quests and events. Also they gave out a ton of credits in the first few weeks of the game.
well we just have to tough it out. Once we max the char, weapon, and skills, its pretty much set and once you finished their echo set you have a character you can rely on any content
this is why I like jinshi, her team comp doesnt require too much, just focus build on jinshi.
Um, I'd say take advantage of farming materials / shell credits, whatever you need during the x2 reward events. And yes, focus your resources on your main team first and go character by character. F2p gacha veteran here.
I'm f2p and barely active, but my resources are alright and my characters are decently built, able to clear hologram 4(not bothered with 5+ yet) and easily kill everything on the map. I don't really care about the tower of adversity yet since I know I can't beat it yet. I'm very sure majority of people that is having resources issues, are people that has zero to no self restrain and cannot manage their resources well, or simply don't play at all. Cause I sometimes miss couples of days not logging in, and it's still not quite an issue for me, at least yet I guess. Farming tacet fields are the most wasteful thing you can use your waveplates on, it's simply not worth it to focus on it. Just farm the tacet fields whenever you don't have anything else to farm for anymore.
I'm an F2P player but I didn't encounter such Problem, I maxed Jinshi, Yinlin, and Verina in Lvl, Forte and weapon just in 2 the moment I reached UL50, since I need my waveplates to reached max amount again for the forge. I just prioritized to maxed the characters I need in world exploration. And by the way I'm not that Heavy grinder type of F2P, I just play it casually.
Just hit ul50 and the 400tunes turned into 153tunes😭😭😭
I'm still using 4* lvl 50 weapons, my echos for support are meh, probably only main echo upgraded I guess, my skills also barely leveled up, I only built Yinlin, and kinda built? Calcharo, will do the same for changli and encore
If I may, from my experience, money or ascension material isn't what you should worry about. Echoes ascension material is, you'll quickly go bankrupt if you don't spend those wisely and don't farm them
As soon as I hit UL 50 I started pre farming for Changli. I skipped Jinhsi and only brought 3 characters to 80 with lvl 7 talents, no weapons past 70 and all the supports were on pause where they were at. I still ran out of shell credits before Changli was even useable, nowhere close to max. I pumped at least 10 of the waveplate consumables into shell credits as well as cleared out every shop I could just to get her up and running and she still isnt maxed out.
There always has to be something to play for. If we could just have everything maxed out easily then the game would get boring much faster. The good part is that once you hit Union 50 it slows down a ton. and Once you hit Union 60 you peaked, atleast for now. So focus on your main team and then slowly build 1 unit at a time.
As a genshin player I gathered 10m shell credits after the 80k was available.
it is heavy but if you just focus on it once a day and not feel the need to rush, it comes np. got 3 characters at 80 atm, the hardest part imo is getting the echoes lol. man thats painful, even with the 50% echo food, it feels rough to try and get like a 3 star bird with spectro damage AND THEN get lucky enough to land crit rate and crit dmg.. oof lol
Hmm I never level multiple characters without reason in any gacha especially coming from Princess Connect where mana shortage was a problem early if you don't plan ahead. I never worry about currency and mats as a result.
I wanna stay under 50 level 52 rn and to late im already max all my character 80 but one weapons 80 and i broke 😂
I'm F2P, i played WuWa since its release, i only use the item to get 60 wave platesfor double mats event and farming on tacet fields, since I notice that its hard to get those waveplate. For ascension mats, i will take it slow, wait for my waveplates to cd and farm what i need. once done i dont push it. I stop and wait for mu waveplates to cd and thats it.
Please dont tell people they dont have to level their characters up. Someone told me that in Genshin and it ruined my abyss runs. Yes. You need to invest in your characters and level them up so that you can ascend them to get to 90.
You are better off having 9 level 70 characters than 3 level 80. Because you want to start doing TOA as soon as you can. You don't have to finish it. But doing some (even just 15/30) will give you a lot of extra Astrites.
If you say this on their survey they'll probably increase Shell Credit rewards
WuWa has taught me to take my time. So I'm taking my time.
I went broke leveling my 3 main DPS to 80 and getting all their weapons to level 80. Crazy how fast 2+ mil credits can disappear. Luckily a day or 2 later the double rewards event started and now I got about 2 mil credits again. Feel like that's all gonna disappear when Zhezhi comes out, but I'm ok with that. Imma just leave my healer and subDPS(I just use them for the outro buff) at level 70 for now though I'll prefarm to get Zhezhi to level 80 when she releases.
Do explore until ALL regions are 100% ( yes, supply chests 100% aswell) , helped a lot
fun fact: if ur like me and slaughter everything that moves in all map u actually earn a loooooot of character EXP for free just by enjoying murder/farming echoes taking away that cost so all ya need ta lvl up are weapons, talents and echoes. ur asking at what rate? one full map clear 40%ish exp of a level. ~just 40%?! its too long to clear the map just for that and yap yapy yappy yapp. ikr? well i am mental, but... in contrast my friends... it took me 2 years leveling up one character throu constant nonstop usage(thats all sumeru, fontaine and other areas i didnt felt like going in again) to go from lvl 86 to currently Lv87 85%EXP in Genshin, i could pobly be lvl 88 rn but god no thx ive run out of things to do and burnout. so. feel like slaugtering a buncha echoes n sheet still not worth it? i jus do it coz its fun♪
Someone in another comment mentioned the rate is even better than genshin and they leveled all their characters to 60/70 just off that except two.
I just got to 60UL and I assure you, it’s living hell
Not to say its not expensive but due to the weekly limit in materials you're not going to hit the wall that hard. By the time the next week rolls in and you have more of the Calamity materials you already restocked on credits and materials.
The real pain is trying to build up a new set of artifacts while leveling up characters, THAT will choke you out of all mats.
instructions unclear, my rover, Yinlin and Verina are 90 already
I rarely upgrade my characters using xp potion or credits because xp gained from gameplay is way bigger than what genshin gives.
You can fully upgrade all your chars levels without spending a single potion or credit just by placing a level 1 char in a strong team and farming.
I only used some potions with Jinhsi since she is a main dps.
You can farm weapons also but the amount is tiny compared to XP and shell credits saved.
As an example i have 6 chars at level 70 and 7 chars between 60 and 70 only 2 were upgraded using potions. If i had used Credits instead for sure i would be broken.
I have no reason to rush the level since if you do that all the xp you will get when you reach max level is lost. Instead i just upgrade all the skills and weapons
Do that only if you need some level to fight the enemies or to get all stars from tower but for me the enemies are too weak to justify this and also the rewards for full completion are small.
As long as you can do the content without leveling it is ok because it increases the challenge
I have never done TF except for the double drop event and im doing double drop for skill instead of credits
Wait, so are you saying all party members get the exp even if just one lower-leveled character is in the party? and the exp gain is not hot garbage?
@@XenoWars XP from each kill ranges from 25 to 100 and this is multiplied by 3 since all chars get the same amount even if they are off field.
You also get some credits and materials from each kill. From what I could check the amount does not change too much based on union level so you can use a lower ul to clear enemies faster and then go up to spend the stamina next day.
Usually you can upgrade 3 chars around level 60 by one level after killing for 4/5 hours so you will reach the max level in the future much faster than genshin for example.
Genshin gives one level for some months of playing which is a insane amount of time compared to wuwa.
Bro did no real planning or research or math for this video lol
First game where Grinding the money or currency dungeon is a Real necessity, yet once you do it often it becomes natural.Really it’s OK guys don’t worry and don’t whine about it enjoy the game it’s a great game and fights aren’t boring . I mean… it gives you something to do with the game really. I actually enjoy going through the process of leveling things up here
I am currently in Union Level 39 should I go for level 45 ( for weapon crate ) or upgrade my best characters ( currently calcharo, encore, and chiangling got recently) are maxed. And I have 3 more fav character including ling ( glacio boy 5 star ) and yangyang at full 6 resonance chains
how i spend waveplates or other limited resources in other games like genshin or star rail and so on is mostly boss materials and forgery domains for a set few characters then i work on shell credits as needed throughout and leave tacets alone since you get a ton of echos just playing the game and starting out you get a decent amount of echo level up material if you do the events and after that i do prioritize events that give bonus drops like the simulation one i only did shell since i had plenty character and weapon enhancement materials and i do do the chords one also since it is more worth it during the event than it is out side and you gonna have to eventually so while in the moment not super great per say still worth to me
Hey bro btw I got Jinshi 20 pulls and her weapon 2 of them should I combine them?
Yes!
If Calcharo wasn't gonna be powercreeped next patch (by a free unit at that), i'd say save it for him. But since he is, you can probably refine it.
I really appriciate this video, maybe i'm not a free to play but as the title says is a warning, a pretty big warning. In my case, when I reach level 40 (i'm 37) i won't do the mission to ascend the world, because I normally struggle with the resources in a big regard, so i'll ascend the world very surely when I feel ready to and have more than enough resources for, I dunno, 2-3 extra chracters than the ones i'm interested for.
If u want to make it efficient with ur waveplates.
It is better for u to ascend the world. U got increase of base reward and chance for better reward for everything waveplates related.
Thou one ur reach rank lvl 50. And upgraded to SOL3 Lvl 6. Some domains like shell credit, char and weapon exp. Already maxed up the reward. Tacet field also maxed up at that rank lvl 50. Rushing further than that not worth it.
Also if u want to farm overlord or calamity class echo or overworld echo... U can lower ur sol3 lvl for 12 hour. It is easier for u to kill them because it is weaker at lower world lvl. Furthermore ,echo drop chance and rarity is depending on data bank lvl.. not the world lvl. Thou make sure u do waveplates related things at higher world lvl. U can revert back ur sol3 lvl for that.. CD is 12 hr.
i spend my daily energy boxes on character exp, been doing it for a week, i got a lot
Glad ive barely touched tacet fields since I started, they just dont seem worth it. Ill get their echos to +25 and i'll worry about perfecting them when I have enough characters to start farming echo exp.
I don't even remember how much I have lol but I have experience in gacha and I'm very good at taking care of my resources, even to level up my characters and echoes I use the exact amount of exp
Make use of the three double rewards event in this patch. Farming shells at SOL 5 gives you almost half a million using the 240 cubes
You get that with just the double rates, not even any more than that.
Don't listen to the dude keep leveling and grinding don't stop mid way. there is no wrong build it's just time consuming. Play however you like.
keeping a picture of my main in the corner of my screen while i grind for them ,,, anything for them o+
I literally went broke when I did an unplanned Changli pull and got her at 50. My energy cube went from 30 to 0😂
Watching this with 9k shell credits
I've blew through all my res when I reached databanl 20 leveling up all the five star echoes on my characters.
after having played genshin for about 3 years i can assure u that this amount is NOTHING.
It's inevitable, so why we need to worry?
plot twist: you need spend your waveplates on materials/credits from UL 50-60 for lvl 90 materials required to level up 4 characters (mine is cal,jinhsi,rover and yinlin), so if you think you don't need to farm credits coz you have currently 2-3m saved, you thought wrong lmao!
Yep, been staying at lowest rank possible, enjoying the game. Going up will turn your enjoyment into grind. Only do it when you need to.
I dropped my Lvl 53 account. Nearly 100% the maps, data bank 21. Due to insane luck? Lost to Lingyang on Jinshi, hardest pity to Yinlin and her weapon. I pretty much don't have anything else aside from MC and Encore carrying me through the contents. My alt account however is at LVL 35 atm, with Jinshi+signature and Jiyan+razor 5s. Got Jiyan like 1st roll then early Jinshi(50/50) and Weapon. Was it a bad idea? I'm not sure, but I feel much satisfied even though I hate getting 4 star echoes.
Just attempting to level my changli past 70 took all my money