Back in the 60's, before cymbals came with a permanent polish, all good cymbals would oxidize immediately by sweaty fingerprints. My jazz drumming instructor gave me a solution which worked great on those cymbals which may not work as well on today's polished/coated cymbals. Here are the steps which you have to do fast: Be near a sink big enough to wash your cymbal in because you will have to move fast. While wearing rubber gloves, apply Sno-Bol toilet bowl cleaner (I don't know if it exists today. It is extremely acidic and stinks horribly.) to the cymbal surfaces, top and bottom with a sponge. IMMEDIATELY, wash the cymbal just like a dish with dish detergent and rinse very, very well. IMMEDIATELY, towel dry. Spray Pledge wax onto both surfaces, top and bottom. This whole process took less than 10 minutes total. This protected my cymbals so well that I have not had to clean/polish them in over 50 years. They are the original AVEDIS ZILDJIAN (no model names or numbers back then, other than "A" and "K".) and they have the vintage patina that makes them look much better than today's cheap "bling" cymbals. So, ACID - SOAP & WATER - DRY - POLISH. Simple.
@@Heath1202 A simpler way may be to use Lemon Pledge Spray Polish. It has citric acid in it, so I would recommend applying a second coat with a car nano-spray polish. I am presently doing this to all of my cymbals, vintage and newer ones. Do NOT use Lemon Pledge Spray Polish on painted surfaces. I did this to a painted Ludwig drum set and the paint was ruined! This spray is powerful stuff, so just use it on cymbals.
I found that a 3rd Lemon Juice mixed with two 3rds water works the best. Or, I saw someone else's video that showed him simply cutting a lemon in half and just rubbing the lemon on the cymbal, then rinse & dry thoroughly. And I must say, the results were awesome & VERY surprising. Lemon juice and aluminum foil wipes away rust like dirt off rims, as well.
I once bought a Zildjian rock ride for 60 bucks at some old record shop and it looked like complete shit. It was filthy and had a little bit of oxidation, so I wasn't sure if it had any potential. I took it home and because of your other video on ketchup and it cleaning cymbals, i used that method. It worked really well and gave it more shine than it had before, but it wasn't really clean enough. I ended up using a small bowl of vinegar mixed with salt and half of a lemon. I covered the whole thing in the vinegar and salt, then I scrubbed it all in using the lemon. This shit actually worked really well and made it look amazing, it doesn't even look like the same cymbal anymore.
That's actually a pretty good way of doing it...that combination of the acid from the lemon and abrasiveness of the salt works well. Makes me kind of wonder what a lemon and Ajax would do?
Just a tip, vinegar is acid, it corrodes metals. Cymbals are made out of copper mainly so rubbing it with vinegar helps to clean it ´without any big damage done since it's a pretty weak acid, but having it there over night surely does it's job too good.
Some of your comments to ignorant people on here make me laugh my ass off. I love your channel and the experiments that you perform on drums are awesome. Cheers!
Then a gentle scrub with a mix steak sauce and barbacue sauce, use handfuls of mud to exfoliate the pores of the cymbals let sit over night with sliced cucumbers on surface then polish with helavagood dip works every time
That smells great... I have used Noxon which its very strong. Which is about $3.28 online but NOXON WILL Remove the label tho. Not in the mood to smell ketchup on my cymbals... Best solution is to spend $10 bucks on the proper product.. Sabian Safe & Sound Cymbal Cleaner. Or we can just cut some branches and make drum sticks with it right? If we can't spend $10 on our cymbals to properly care for them, we are playing the wrong instrument. TAMA RULES. cheers boss!
The outer coating is copper oxide, the citric acid found in the tomatoes dissolved it revealing the bronze underneath. The vinegar also dissolves this as well at the non-oxidized copper in the bronze, and leaves behind a tarnish. The toothpaste looks funky because of the silicates and other polishing agents left behind. The Ajax would do the same, but it's more water soluble whereas the toothpaste is not so much. Thank you for attending my TED talk
I used mothers mag and aluminum wheel polishing and I took a really old 1970 zildjan ride cymbal to make it look like a brand new one from guitar center worked really good.
The reaction you're seeing is the acid washing that occurs with the high copper content of bronze. it just removes the protective layer applied during manufacturing. When I cook pasta, i save a bit of the tomato sauce from the bottle and apply it to the bottom of my copper bottom pots to clean them
Just a couple weeks ago, I have a antique box that's covered in 3D brass, pictures of horses Etc. I gently rubbed ketchup on the entire box, you can't just apply and leave it sit, you have to rub it in gently, as far as symbols go you would rub with the grooves. I was out of my normal brass cleaner rag, amazing result from ketchup. Today my drum cymbals need cleaned, I don't feel like going to the store but I have plenty of ketchup and that's what I will use. Rinse with Warm Water rug lightly. When finished Acure dry cloth, t-shirt and shine your cymbals like new
I just use NeverDull on mine, cleans and polishes better than anything else I have used, is fairly safe on labels, and leaves a super thin oil barrier to keep tarnish/corrosion down.
The Mean Green, if you read the directions, you aren't suppose to let it dry. I use it around the house cleaning different shit. It's some really stout shit man. I usually dilute it though because it will take the clear finishes off most surfaces.
I've used a homemade cleaner before that I read about online. You mix flour, vinegar, and salt to make a paste. It works pretty well. I had to scrub it a bit for any real results. I think you need something with the vinegar to act as an abrasive.
I swear by bar keeper's friend......I then use silver and or jewelry cleaner.....They come up like mirrors....once you've polished the cymbal, take it outside, turn it round so you're looking at the bottom and then swirl the cymbal round until you catch the sun. .....how amazing is that? the heat is Incredible!
Vinegar actually works better if you make a Flour-Based paste, and cover it with something to lock the moisture in. I cleaned an old Brass lamp that had blackened from age. Sometimes you need to do it 2-3 times. Soak, Scrub, Rinse, Repeat. Works best on heavy corrosion, or discoloration.
barkeepers friend is only 2 bucks..and works great.. but thanks for trying all that stuff.. I tried to clean my cymbals for years.. nothing worked.. until barkeepers friend..love your videos.. I have learned a ton !!!
I actually tried toothpaste today on a pair of new beats from 86' ...and I must say they came out pretty good ...the difference between how David did it and the way I did it was I worked the toothpaste in with a damp gritty sponge with toothpaste waited about 10 minutes poured some water on it went over again with a damp sponge then buffed it ...wasnt perfect but it took the dullness & some other dirt ....pretty satisfied with the results
I used a few different things once on some inexpensively acquired cymbals and/or soiled Paiste and Zilco Hi-hats, and the WHITE vinegar worked best and very quickly. I would not leave it on long at all, as it works quickly, and you can cut it with some water too, it can be diluted. Scrub, rinse, and dry in whatever time it takes to simply rub the cymbal down both sides and rinse and dry, and walla, an old set of Zilco H-hats looked much cleaner and even Guitar Center gave me some decent dough for them the next day. It worked so well I used it on a set of soiled by time Paiste 802 hats I had and they cleaned up nicely too. WHITE vinegar IMHO works better than Brasso, and some other hack fluid I used that I can't even recall now, ha. For my money and time, White Vinegar is a very cheap and effective cymbal cleaning hack. I became aware of it from its use in cleaning out coffee makers (put some in a pot and run it through the cycle), which you always follow with a similar water rinse of one or two pots, and that basic method seems to work on cymbals nicely too.
I do a lot of metal fab and other hands on stuff. I recently ended up doing a big job with copper and brass that was very oxidized. I did some hunting online and found something amazing for pretty much instantly removing tarnish and oxidation. The Works toilet bowl cleaner. I have some old cymbals in my attic. maybe I'll do a test run and see if it works. If so, I'll let you know.
Brasso is the way to go. In high school marching band we had huge gong in the pit. We would buff it before every competition. More than one percussion judge commented that it was blinding to look at. LOL!
I made my cleaning experiment on my cymbals with some few lot of cleaning ingredients it has salt baking soda two powder cans of bar's keeper friend then the lemon juice vinegar and coke mix let it sit for like 6 to 24 hours over day and night in 6 hours it needs to let it soak All the chemicals And in 24 hours it needs to let it sizzle so the rust can easily removed then after that take the cymbal out from the cleaning recipe then dump all the chemicals in the sink or dump the chemicals on the grass then clean it with soap and water and finish off with pledge and and it's a rust removable cleaning recipe and also you can finish cleaning it off with a cymbal cleaning polish then polish it wait until 15 seconds then clean off again and see the shining results and all that stuff
Another trick to cleaning from what I have read in drum magazines. (I think it was a 2010 guitar center or something similar) is lemon juice. The citric acid is supposed to be a great cleaning agent. I think it was mixed with vinegar but not sure.
I make ketchup in my day job, and one of the main ingredients is vinegar. Vinegar is an acid that dissolves your cymbals, ketchup contains vinegar as well as ascorbic acid and citric acid. Ketchup will react with anything you put it on including your teeth. I clean my cymbals with a mild solvent and a microfiber cloth. and gloves.
Bar Keeper's Friend is what my college drumline used and I still use it on my personal cymbals. I wouldn't use the toothpaste too often since it acts as a polish and removes a portion of the alloy.
After testing myself my champions are: lemon: easy to apply, efficent and no nasty smell. And for spots that won't come of with lemon: products for silver utensiles.
"Read the title. "TESTING" not "HOW TO." Yeah all these suck, great we all can see that. And no one cares that you dont clean your cymbals. People always seem to brag about how they dont clean their cymbals, because "it makes them sound so much better," like anyone gives a shit. I dont clean my cymbals and guess what, they sound the same." LMAO, What a legend.
You can just buy cymbal cleaner for the type of finish for the cymbal, and is not actually that expensive. My cymbals have a bronze finish and I use cymbal juice to clean them. Bought it for $15.00 at my local music store. Always make sure you use the correct cleaner so it does not ruin your finish. I know the video is for finding cheap ways, but I gave my way as well. Also, I gave it a thumbs up, because I enjoy your experiments.
It's cool seeing all these methods right next to each other. I feel like the coating was eaten away by the acids on the first cymbal. lolol Ketchup works great with a light coat. Mixing vinegar with flour makes a paste you can rub on the cymbal. But ketchup is a lot quicker since you'll have to clean off the vinegar paste anyways. There are some pretty in-depth instructions on cheap cymbal cleaning on the internet.
Finally, someone who hates the smell of vinegar as well. I can't stand any sauces with a lot of vinegar or cooking with it, mostly because of the smell.
Believe it or not, Lava soap. It has pumice in it which is a natural cleaner and polisher. I clean the cymbals with the lava, dry them off and they look almost new. Then to really make them shine I use Brasso. You just might want to have a pair of sunglasses handy, though.
That particular cymbal has a special coating due to its "entry level" quality. Not sure if that's a B8 or B8PLUS models. They used to have a special spray for that line of cymbals. Try that on an upper line cymbal.
You gotta seal the surface after cleaning. Something containing lanoline (like handcream) would be fine. Every cymbal cleaner is a combination of fine abrasive (like ajax) and not-concentrated acid (like vinegar) to remove oxidised top layer of cymbal...
I've never cleaned my cymbals, maybe it is superstition, but I've always felt that the age/patina of a cymbal changes the sound, especially for cymbals played in a softer/quieter environment like playing jazz in a small club, or recording in an isolated drum room. And cleaners. especially abrasive polishes can change the micro structure of the surface and can thus alter the sound produced.
my first set of cymbals were b8. I can relate. I never tried to keep them clean. I actually used a metal sander and sanded the surface off but the angle didn't work so I just did a decorative design. You should try soaking the cymbal in coca cola and see what that does I bet it would work because b8's are essentially a penny and we all remember what that did in science class. Keep in mind, all cymbals are mostly made up of the same materials and the only difference is what kind of acid bath they are given for the final finish.
It's been 6 years so I hope by now you've learned that the difference in quality of cymbals is determined by the different ratios of alloys of bronze and tin and while they are made of the same materials the differences in ratios plays a large part in differences of finish.
The reason ketchup works is because of the vinegar in the ketchup. So just buy vinegar at the dollar store, it's much cheaper than ketchup. Plus you want to dilute the vinegar in a 50/50 mixture with warm water and soak the cymbals in the mixture for a few hours or overnight dependent on the condition of the cymbals.
+HafLife Ketchup was from the $1 store also. so it was a dollar... Its easier to apply the ketchup since you just squirt it on, but with vinegar you would need a container big enough to hold the cymbal. Also you would need a lot more vinegar to get enough depth to fully cover the cymbal. So cleaning a ride would be pretty annoying. Im not trying to say youre wrong, but I just see ketchup as being easier to use.
I bought a large round tub at a dollar store large enough to fit even my 22" ride. I leave the solution in there because you don't have to dispose of it after each use. I only add an additional cup or so of vinegar to the solution each time I clean my cymbals. only thing with ketchup, there is a lot of sugar in it and that reacts badly with metal after several uses.
If you would like to watch your cyms turn bright and shiny right before your eyes, wet the metal down with white vinegar (7% acetic acid) and then sprinkle a nice hefty pinch of Kosher salt onto it. Gently rub with a paper towel dampened in a bit of the vinegar, and behold the magic! Oh damn, Rockhard beat me to it… lol
Necro comment but the toothpaste is a polish, aka it's mildly abrasive, you have to scrub with it to get any effect. You don't just put toothpaste on your teeth and then rinse them off, right?
Hey mate , i have zbt hi hats that are pretty much all red from sitting in a shed. What can i use to clean them up? I can send you photos if youd like to help me. Thanks
BKF also comes in a liquid - maybe will work better or worse than the powdered paste? The alloy of the cymbal also makes a difference. BKF works much better on B20 than B8. I have read a very stron recommendation not to use BKF on B8, as it can totally ruin it.
I have axx brilliant shine. I use brasso on a old t shirt. Do not spread brasso all over the cymbles. It will take the paint off. Ive had the same cymbles for ten years. They still look showroom clean.
Cymbals are bronze. Bronze is copper and tin. (Cheap cymbals are brass. Copper and zinc.) Most of the cleaners that people use have a slight acidic content that bites into the copper of the cymbal. It removes that top layer of oxidation and crud. Barkeeper's Friend has a slight acidic content to remove calcium. Ketchup had tomatoes and vinegar which are both acidic. I should have paid more attention in chemistry class....
Perhaps someone else has suggested it- but to get around the blecch scent of vinegar- use apple (cider) vinegar, it costs the same but smells just different enough that you may develop a mild tolerance for it.
Imagine someone using these methods on good cymbals? LOL Personally, I wouldn't use any of these methods on my cymbals. Ketchup and vinegar have acid in them which will strip your cymbals as will coca-cola, although not seen in this particular video. Just stick with the cleaners that the cymbal companies sell. Going back to the ketchup one, you're only meant to leave it on the cymbal for about 5 minutes, not 24 hours, lol. Still wouldn't do it though. Good to see video's like this, quite insightful.
Put the Heinz Ketchup ( ONLY KIND TO USE ) put it on, rubs it in and around the grooves by hand, let it sit for 5 min NO LONGER, then wash off by hand under HT water-then DRY with clean Towel ASAP-then use another towel to buff it a little
Spreads ketchup with a toothbrush, and the toothpaste with his hands, what kind of world do you live in???
+bondfish would you rather touch toothpaste or ketchup?
+rdavidr They're both fluids with a high viscosity. There is almost no difference, you'll have to wash your hands either way.
+rdavidr DAVID THE KETCHUP IS BEST LOOKY THE TEXTURE IS SOO PROFESIONAL LIKE WOW IT HAS LIKE PLATNUM LIKE COLOR! USE KETCHUP GUYS
Think in the right way: which of them is by definition an abrasive fluid?
Or: wich of them is thought to be in contact longer time with the body?
bondfish
Lol
I learned that I'm going to keep using Paiste cymbal cleaner.
+Nicholas Paul your comment needs more love hahaha
hahaha fuck off
No kidding, if you've spent money on a drum kit, cymbals, AND care enough to keep them clean, you'll buy the fucking cleaning product too.
use lemon
😂😂😂
how to remove the shine from your cymbals
The cleanest parts of the cymbal were the tapemarks, haha. Good vid, loved it. Thanks!
Back in the 60's, before cymbals came with a permanent polish, all good cymbals would oxidize immediately by sweaty fingerprints. My jazz drumming instructor gave me a solution which worked great on those cymbals which may not work as well on today's polished/coated cymbals. Here are the steps which you have to do fast:
Be near a sink big enough to wash your cymbal in because you will have to move fast.
While wearing rubber gloves, apply Sno-Bol toilet bowl cleaner (I don't know if it exists today. It is extremely acidic and stinks horribly.) to the cymbal surfaces, top and bottom with a sponge.
IMMEDIATELY, wash the cymbal just like a dish with dish detergent and rinse very, very well.
IMMEDIATELY, towel dry.
Spray Pledge wax onto both surfaces, top and bottom.
This whole process took less than 10 minutes total.
This protected my cymbals so well that I have not had to clean/polish them in over 50 years. They are the original AVEDIS ZILDJIAN (no model names or numbers back then, other than "A" and "K".) and they have the vintage patina that makes them look much better than today's cheap "bling" cymbals.
So, ACID - SOAP & WATER - DRY - POLISH. Simple.
Thats really cool honestly
I have those same cymbals that I bought from a church for $100 and I've been trying to figure out how to clean and polish them.
@@Heath1202 A simpler way may be to use Lemon Pledge Spray Polish. It has citric acid in it, so I would recommend applying a second coat with a car nano-spray polish. I am presently doing this to all of my cymbals, vintage and newer ones.
Do NOT use Lemon Pledge Spray Polish on painted surfaces. I did this to a painted Ludwig drum set and the paint was ruined! This spray is powerful stuff, so just use it on cymbals.
What did I learn from this? ...Never let this guy anywhere near my cymbals..!
That song in the background is fucking weird.
Yeah 😂
I don't even have drums, why am I watching this?
Because you were looking for wok recipes.
Me too.I don't know same way
it's your inner drumming calling you. embrace it
Because you're an idiot, you're welcome.
You don't have to state the facts, you're just being rude dude. And if you're gonna get rude, better go and play xbox live.
It's not Ajax, it's Francis!
+Diogo Almeida F R A N C I S
HAHAHA THIS GUY'S GONNA GET RUN OVER BY A ZAMBONI
Deadpool: Any last words?
Francis: Say my name
Yuo ween!!1!
+Spoodermen Produktionz "oh I'm gonna spell it out for you"
I found that a 3rd Lemon Juice mixed with two 3rds water works the best. Or, I saw someone else's video that showed him simply cutting a lemon in half and just rubbing the lemon on the cymbal, then rinse & dry thoroughly. And I must say, the results were awesome & VERY surprising. Lemon juice and aluminum foil wipes away rust like dirt off rims, as well.
I once bought a Zildjian rock ride for 60 bucks at some old record shop and it looked like complete shit. It was filthy and had a little bit of oxidation, so I wasn't sure if it had any potential. I took it home and because of your other video on ketchup and it cleaning cymbals, i used that method. It worked really well and gave it more shine than it had before, but it wasn't really clean enough. I ended up using a small bowl of vinegar mixed with salt and half of a lemon. I covered the whole thing in the vinegar and salt, then I scrubbed it all in using the lemon. This shit actually worked really well and made it look amazing, it doesn't even look like the same cymbal anymore.
That's actually a pretty good way of doing it...that combination of the acid from the lemon and abrasiveness of the salt works well. Makes me kind of wonder what a lemon and Ajax would do?
Just a tip, vinegar is acid, it corrodes metals. Cymbals are made out of copper mainly so rubbing it with vinegar helps to clean it ´without any big damage done since it's a pretty weak acid, but having it there over night surely does it's job too good.
*uses toothbrush for ketchup but not toothpaste
touch toothpaste>touch ketchup
But you can lick your fingers after the ketchup!
+CrusaderDeleters these people are sic af!
Hazen Stribling after using toothpaste,my cymbals fucking dirty
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Some of your comments to ignorant people on here make me laugh my ass off. I love your channel and the experiments that you perform on drums are awesome. Cheers!
haha, gotta let em know whats up some times.
Vaseline. Done. Best one so far. Cheap. Not labor intensive. Shiny. Protects from oxidation. I use it every time.
Hell yes. That sounds like a winner. Do you buff with a rag, or does it just wipe off pretty easy?
Then a gentle scrub with a mix steak sauce and barbacue sauce, use handfuls of mud to exfoliate the pores of the cymbals let sit over night with sliced cucumbers on surface then polish with helavagood dip works every time
That smells great...
I have used Noxon which its very strong. Which is about $3.28 online but NOXON WILL Remove the label tho.
Not in the mood to smell ketchup on my cymbals...
Best solution is to spend $10 bucks on the proper product.. Sabian Safe & Sound Cymbal Cleaner.
Or we can just cut some branches and make drum sticks with it right?
If we can't spend $10 on our cymbals to properly care for them, we are playing the wrong instrument.
TAMA RULES.
cheers boss!
Tama does rule!!
I've played Pearl's my entire life. 30 yrs... last year I got tama superstars, and I'll never play anything else. Tama has my heart
I've only ever had TAMAs and not entirely I purpose, I just kinda ended up with them, EVERY time.
#prettywell
the cymbal is b8 bronze so the ketchup brings the cymbal back to its raw bronze state
perhaps
+JBHviews but for some reason there another metal coating and ketchup removed that , thats not good.
+John Leaf non-newtonian fluid to the rescue
JBHviews
The outer coating is copper oxide, the citric acid found in the tomatoes dissolved it revealing the bronze underneath. The vinegar also dissolves this as well at the non-oxidized copper in the bronze, and leaves behind a tarnish. The toothpaste looks funky because of the silicates and other polishing agents left behind. The Ajax would do the same, but it's more water soluble whereas the toothpaste is not so much. Thank you for attending my TED talk
I used mothers mag and aluminum wheel polishing and I took a really old 1970 zildjan ride cymbal to make it look like a brand new one from guitar center worked really good.
I like how you used a toothbrush to spread the ketchup but not the tooth paste. You're a mad man.
The reaction you're seeing is the acid washing that occurs with the high copper content of bronze. it just removes the protective layer applied during manufacturing. When I cook pasta, i save a bit of the tomato sauce from the bottle and apply it to the bottom of my copper bottom pots to clean them
Just a couple weeks ago, I have a antique box that's covered in 3D brass, pictures of horses Etc. I gently rubbed ketchup on the entire box, you can't just apply and leave it sit, you have to rub it in gently, as far as symbols go you would rub with the grooves. I was out of my normal brass cleaner rag, amazing result from ketchup. Today my drum cymbals need cleaned, I don't feel like going to the store but I have plenty of ketchup and that's what I will use. Rinse with Warm Water rug lightly. When finished Acure dry cloth, t-shirt and shine your cymbals like new
All I learned from this video is how to ruin, and mess my cymbals so no thanks, I'll stick to actual cymbal cleaner.
YESSSS.... cymbal porn ;P
No..... Just no....
Okay...lance whatever works for you, I guess?
You both clearly dont know lances channel, the dude LOVES his cymbals 😎
LanceCampeau LMAO
>.>
wow that ketchup cymbal looks awesome super rusty and idustrial
+August Burns Red wait til you see tomorrows video!
rdavidr ahaha ill be waiting
I just use NeverDull on mine, cleans and polishes better than anything else I have used, is fairly safe on labels, and leaves a super thin oil barrier to keep tarnish/corrosion down.
You're the channel that does the things to cymbals that I'm too broke to do
ketchup contains vinegar
The Mean Green, if you read the directions, you aren't suppose to let it dry. I use it around the house cleaning different shit. It's some really stout shit man. I usually dilute it though because it will take the clear finishes off most surfaces.
I've used a homemade cleaner before that I read about online. You mix flour, vinegar, and salt to make a paste. It works pretty well. I had to scrub it a bit for any real results. I think you need something with the vinegar to act as an abrasive.
That's basically what the ketchup is doing, it's thickened vinegar
I swear by bar keeper's friend......I then use silver and or jewelry cleaner.....They come up like mirrors....once you've polished the cymbal, take it outside, turn it round so you're looking at the bottom and then swirl the cymbal round until you catch the sun. .....how amazing is that? the heat is Incredible!
Vinegar actually works better if you make a Flour-Based paste, and cover it with something to lock the moisture in. I cleaned an old Brass lamp that had blackened from age. Sometimes you need to do it 2-3 times. Soak, Scrub, Rinse, Repeat. Works best on heavy corrosion, or discoloration.
When you started coughing I fell on the floor.. LOL
barkeepers friend is only 2 bucks..and works great.. but thanks for trying all that stuff.. I tried to clean my cymbals for years.. nothing worked.. until barkeepers friend..love your videos.. I have learned a ton !!!
I actually tried toothpaste today on a pair of new beats from 86' ...and I must say they came out pretty good ...the difference between how David did it and the way I did it was I worked the toothpaste in with a damp gritty sponge with toothpaste waited about 10 minutes poured some water on it went over again with a damp sponge then buffed it ...wasnt perfect but it took the dullness & some other dirt ....pretty satisfied with the results
I liked the warm tone of the Ketchup treatments!
I like the way he uses the toothbrush for the ketchup and he's gloves for the toothpaste 😂
Over 100 thousand views. Congrats my friend!
Baking sofa and lime juice always works best for cleaning copper. Seriously you should give it a try.
Baking sofa. Does it look like a couch by chance? 😂
Love the soundtrack of this video L0L
I love how he used his toothbrush on the ketchup, but not the toothpaste.
I used a few different things once on some inexpensively acquired cymbals and/or soiled Paiste and Zilco Hi-hats, and the WHITE vinegar worked best and very quickly. I would not leave it on long at all, as it works quickly, and you can cut it with some water too, it can be diluted. Scrub, rinse, and dry in whatever time it takes to simply rub the cymbal down both sides and rinse and dry, and walla, an old set of Zilco H-hats looked much cleaner and even Guitar Center gave me some decent dough for them the next day. It worked so well I used it on a set of soiled by time Paiste 802 hats I had and they cleaned up nicely too. WHITE vinegar IMHO works better than Brasso, and some other hack fluid I used that I can't even recall now, ha. For my money and time, White Vinegar is a very cheap and effective cymbal cleaning hack. I became aware of it from its use in cleaning out coffee makers (put some in a pot and run it through the cycle), which you always follow with a similar water rinse of one or two pots, and that basic method seems to work on cymbals nicely too.
It may not clean up every single spot or corrosion, but it make a nice and notable difference overall in cleanliness and sheen.
I do a lot of metal fab and other hands on stuff. I recently ended up doing a big job with copper and brass that was very oxidized. I did some hunting online and found something amazing for pretty much instantly removing tarnish and oxidation. The Works toilet bowl cleaner. I have some old cymbals in my attic. maybe I'll do a test run and see if it works. If so, I'll let you know.
Brasso is the way to go. In high school marching band we had huge gong in the pit. We would buff it before every competition. More than one percussion judge commented that it was blinding to look at. LOL!
Dude you have to scrub it wtf.
1:45 man
Watch the whole video asswipe
Alex Z dumbass
I made my cleaning experiment on my cymbals with some few lot of cleaning ingredients it has salt baking soda two powder cans of bar's keeper friend then the lemon juice vinegar and coke mix let it sit for like 6 to 24 hours over day and night in 6 hours it needs to let it soak
All the chemicals And in 24 hours it needs to let it sizzle so the rust can easily removed then after that take the cymbal out from the cleaning recipe then dump all the chemicals in the sink or dump the chemicals on the grass then clean it with soap and water and finish off with pledge and and it's a rust removable cleaning recipe and also you can finish cleaning it off with a cymbal cleaning polish then polish it wait until 15 seconds then clean off again and see the shining results and all that stuff
Another trick to cleaning from what I have read in drum magazines. (I think it was a 2010 guitar center or something similar) is lemon juice. The citric acid is supposed to be a great cleaning agent. I think it was mixed with vinegar but not sure.
When people with covid 19 realise he used hand sanitiser for an experiment
I make ketchup in my day job, and one of the main ingredients is vinegar. Vinegar is an acid that dissolves your cymbals, ketchup contains vinegar as well as ascorbic acid and citric acid. Ketchup will react with anything you put it on including your teeth. I clean my cymbals with a mild solvent and a microfiber cloth. and gloves.
Bar Keeper's Friend is what my college drumline used and I still use it on my personal cymbals. I wouldn't use the toothpaste too often since it acts as a polish and removes a portion of the alloy.
BKF is a polish as well, it's just a finer abrasive than toothpaste.
would love to see how does it sounds like after you cleaned it with all the solvents haha
After testing myself my champions are: lemon: easy to apply, efficent and no nasty smell. And for spots that won't come of with lemon: products for silver utensiles.
"Read the title. "TESTING" not "HOW TO." Yeah all these suck, great we all can see that. And no one cares that you dont clean your cymbals. People always seem to brag about how they dont clean their cymbals, because "it makes them sound so much better," like anyone gives a shit. I dont clean my cymbals and guess what, they sound the same."
LMAO, What a legend.
You can just buy cymbal cleaner for the type of finish for the cymbal, and is not actually that expensive. My cymbals have a bronze finish and I use cymbal juice to clean them. Bought it for $15.00 at my local music store. Always make sure you use the correct cleaner so it does not ruin your finish. I know the video is for finding cheap ways, but I gave my way as well. Also, I gave it a thumbs up, because I enjoy your experiments.
It's cool seeing all these methods right next to each other. I feel like the coating was eaten away by the acids on the first cymbal. lolol
Ketchup works great with a light coat. Mixing vinegar with flour makes a paste you can rub on the cymbal. But ketchup is a lot quicker since you'll have to clean off the vinegar paste anyways. There are some pretty in-depth instructions on cheap cymbal cleaning on the internet.
Finally, someone who hates the smell of vinegar as well. I can't stand any sauces with a lot of vinegar or cooking with it, mostly because of the smell.
"and by the way, i absolutely hate the smell of vinegar"
you're not alone
Believe it or not, Lava soap. It has pumice in it which is a natural cleaner and polisher. I clean the cymbals with the lava, dry them off and they look almost new. Then to really make them shine I use Brasso. You just might want to have a pair of sunglasses handy, though.
That particular cymbal has a special coating due to its "entry level" quality. Not sure if that's a B8 or B8PLUS models. They used to have a special spray for that line of cymbals. Try that on an upper line cymbal.
I only use Ketchup on cymbals that are too slow.
From my military days. We used Never Dull to clean brass.
Have you tried that?
IT'S A DESERT TOPPING AND A CYMBAL CLEANER!
You gotta seal the surface after cleaning. Something containing lanoline (like handcream) would be fine. Every cymbal cleaner is a combination of fine abrasive (like ajax) and not-concentrated acid (like vinegar) to remove oxidised top layer of cymbal...
Zildjian says not to use ketchup on your cymbals thank god those are Sabian hihats 😂😂
I've never cleaned my cymbals, maybe it is superstition, but I've always felt that the age/patina of a cymbal changes the sound, especially for cymbals played in a softer/quieter environment like playing jazz in a small club, or recording in an isolated drum room. And cleaners. especially abrasive polishes can change the micro structure of the surface and can thus alter the sound produced.
Age/patina changes (dulls) the sound also.
@@ytubepuppy for some jazz that can be a good thing, you don't want a real bright sound
Now that I've watched so much Lance Campeau I just want to SAND THOSE THINGS DOWN TO A MIRROR FINISH haha
my first set of cymbals were b8. I can relate. I never tried to keep them clean. I actually used a metal sander and sanded the surface off but the angle didn't work so I just did a decorative design. You should try soaking the cymbal in coca cola and see what that does I bet it would work because b8's are essentially a penny and we all remember what that did in science class. Keep in mind, all cymbals are mostly made up of the same materials and the only difference is what kind of acid bath they are given for the final finish.
It's been 6 years so I hope by now you've learned that the difference in quality of cymbals is determined by the different ratios of alloys of bronze and tin and while they are made of the same materials the differences in ratios plays a large part in differences of finish.
Hey pal, can you make a cajon???
Yeah you should do that
Thanks for reassuring the ketchup method.
I'm new to this but isn't bad to clean your cymbals because you can make them sound different if you clean them?
Lemon juice and a microfiber towel and paper towels works amazingly
This video made my heart smile. SCIENCEEEEEEEE
me and my mom poured vinegar and ketchup and salt all over my cymbal and scrubbed it with toothbrushes and it is really shinny and cleaned it good.
Thanks but they all looked like they damaged the metal but you didn't say that... Oxidized isn't good
When I put ketchup on my cymbals,It worked!A made it a great shine!Thx!
The reason ketchup works is because of the vinegar in the ketchup. So just buy vinegar at the dollar store, it's much cheaper than ketchup. Plus you want to dilute the vinegar in a 50/50 mixture with warm water and soak the cymbals in the mixture for a few hours or overnight dependent on the condition of the cymbals.
+HafLife Ketchup was from the $1 store also. so it was a dollar... Its easier to apply the ketchup since you just squirt it on, but with vinegar you would need a container big enough to hold the cymbal. Also you would need a lot more vinegar to get enough depth to fully cover the cymbal. So cleaning a ride would be pretty annoying. Im not trying to say youre wrong, but I just see ketchup as being easier to use.
I bought a large round tub at a dollar store large enough to fit even my 22" ride. I leave the solution in there because you don't have to dispose of it after each use. I only add an additional cup or so of vinegar to the solution each time I clean my cymbals. only thing with ketchup, there is a lot of sugar in it and that reacts badly with metal after several uses.
i ve learnt, that the best way , to remove rests of gaffa tape from the cymbals, is with olive oil,...btw.... great work on ur channel
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If you would like to watch your cyms turn bright and shiny right before your eyes, wet the metal down with white vinegar (7% acetic acid) and then sprinkle a nice hefty pinch of Kosher salt onto it.
Gently rub with a paper towel dampened in a bit of the vinegar, and behold the magic!
Oh damn, Rockhard beat me to it… lol
Necro comment but the toothpaste is a polish, aka it's mildly abrasive, you have to scrub with it to get any effect. You don't just put toothpaste on your teeth and then rinse them off, right?
Easy Off Non Toxic oven cleaner. Be prepared to lose your decals but they look awesome!
Hey mate , i have zbt hi hats that are pretty much all red from sitting in a shed. What can i use to clean them up? I can send you photos if youd like to help me. Thanks
honestly, you should try never dull. its the best solution ive found. its pretty cheap and lasts a long time.
BKF also comes in a liquid - maybe will work better or worse than the powdered paste? The alloy of the cymbal also makes a difference. BKF works much better on B20 than B8. I have read a very stron recommendation not to use BKF on B8, as it can totally ruin it.
I have axx brilliant shine. I use brasso on a old t shirt. Do not spread brasso all over the cymbles. It will take the paint off. Ive had the same cymbles for ten years. They still look showroom clean.
If you want to make steampunk cymbals, through some ketchup on some B8's haha
Cymbals are bronze. Bronze is copper and tin. (Cheap cymbals are brass. Copper and zinc.) Most of the cleaners that people use have a slight acidic content that bites into the copper of the cymbal. It removes that top layer of oxidation and crud. Barkeeper's Friend has a slight acidic content to remove calcium. Ketchup had tomatoes and vinegar which are both acidic. I should have paid more attention in chemistry class....
Bar Keepers friend indeed, works wonders
there´s this mexican sauce called "Bufalo Sauce", if you can get it, go for it, it is the best to polish metal.
Perhaps someone else has suggested it- but to get around the blecch scent of vinegar- use apple (cider) vinegar, it costs the same but smells just different enough that you may develop a mild tolerance for it.
Cant speak for all vinegar smell haters out there but for me personally, ACV smells much worse than white vinegar by an enormous factor
The ketchup color is pretty sweet, i think i will completely cover my crash with it
Fun experiment. Next try Creme Rinse, Crisco and Dr. Pepper. :)
Imagine someone using these methods on good cymbals? LOL Personally, I wouldn't use any of these methods on my cymbals. Ketchup and vinegar have acid in them which will strip your cymbals as will coca-cola, although not seen in this particular video. Just stick with the cleaners that the cymbal companies sell. Going back to the ketchup one, you're only meant to leave it on the cymbal for about 5 minutes, not 24 hours, lol. Still wouldn't do it though. Good to see video's like this, quite insightful.
clean the cymbal with Lime ?? does it work ??
What brand of ketchup catsup? The chemical ratios ckmbined with the metal combo seems to actually matter.
How does it sound??
Of all the things you tried on this cymbal I think the tape had the best result.
Brand new b-8s have that reddish tint to them, I don't think it's from the ketchup. It's just that it cleaned it that well.
I used to put my cymbals in the bath full of cold water, worked for me.
Put the Heinz Ketchup ( ONLY KIND TO USE ) put it on, rubs it in and around the grooves by hand, let it sit for 5 min NO LONGER, then wash off by hand under HT water-then DRY with clean Towel ASAP-then use another towel to buff it a little