Trains at Peterborough , South Australia.
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- The historic railway town of Peterborough , has one of the most interesting stories of how it began , and how it finished, as a major rail town! It is one of , if not the only place in the world, with a "Tri-guaged" turntable and yard! How that came about is way too long for this video , but we get a tease of what happened and a few trains passing through this history filled , Australian town.....and one where I will be returning too in the future,
Gregg.
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Great video Mate,a good piece of history 👍
Thanks Peter! I'm glad that you enjoyed it.
CHeers, Gregg.
thank you for sharing your video
Lovely trains.
Thank you for sharing. Wow Gregg, what a great video with some history. Loved the turntable.
You're welcome sir! I've only scratched the surface here ...Peterborough has an amazing past! I'll be back !
Cheers Gregg.
Excellent video, went though there 2years ago, next time I'll stay longer and have a better look around,thank you
Thanks Phillip! The old yard further out of town is interesting too.
Cheers Gregg.
Cracking video mate and very informative Gregg well shot.👍👍
Thank you Paul! A lot more to come from this town in the future!
Gregg :-)
Great video Gregg. Thanks
Thanks again JIm! I appreciate the support sir.
Gregg.
Once again great photgraphy
Thanks David! Glad you liked it.
Gregg :-)
Awesome video my friend, history is always fun, yes.....You do need just one gauge. Bob
Thanks Bob! At least you guys changed to one gauge after the civil war....we're still getting there..LOL
Cheers, GRegg.
You failed to mention the guage originally agreed to by NSW, Victoria and South Australia was 5'3" but it was the new NSW Governor that shanged his mind to the 4'8 1/2 " after Victoria had started building in the "Irish" guage of 5'3". The 3'6" guage was used in Queensland, Western Australia and some parts of South Australia because of cost and distance, nothing more.
Thanks Mark1 Either way , the bickering between the Poms , Scotts and Irish resulted in a cluster fu#k we are still dealing with today!
Cheers Gregg.
Nice one Gregg.
Thanks Peter!
Great video Gregg.
Just thought I would let you know that unfortunately you have got your directions back to front in the video. The Pacific National and the Indian Pacific trains, at 0:25 and 5:35 respectively, are both west bound, and the Bowmans Rail train, at 4:15, is eastbound towards Broken Hill. The Pacific National would be heading to either Whyalla or Adelaide, and the Indian Pacific would be heading to Adelaide before continuing onto Perth. I have no doubt you know all these details anyway.
Thank you ! I do get confused as I'm normally at Lofty! You forget how far west the line to Broken HIll is!
Cheers Gregg.
That was amazing video clip you put together there off the trans an were thay were going to it was great to see it and watch it there 👍🚂🚋🚋🚋
Thanks very much Mick! Glad you liked it and I appreciate the comments.
Cheers Gregg.
Thanks for another great video!!! I am looking forward to more on Peterborough and the history of Australia's railroads...
Thanks Charlie! The place has a lot more to see so I will be back !
Gregg.
Thats very interesting history of the Australian railroad! I had no idea. Thanks for the information and rail fanning!
Thanks Joe! Glad you liked it and there will be more of Peterborough in the future!
Cheers Gregg.
Great education here Gregg. I had forgotten about the tri gauge turntable. I did see it in operation when a young "lad". People often forget how advanced the S.A. railways were in many areas of rail also. Mind you, it was a backward step to make Adelaide station into a commercial development with a stupid casino, and put what long distance trains that were left terminating in a ghost town of a suburb. Progress in reverse there.
Thank you Brian ! I'd heard of the turntable ages ago , and may have seen it ona docco' , but this was a first for me! Lucky you to see it in operation! The terminal for the IP and Ghan is certainly in the dust..although it is not very from from the city. I admit the individual states did a good job of building the rail networks in the beginning but politics soon stuffed it up ..LOL.
Cheers Gregg.
Peterborough as railway Town would never have been a railway town without the three gauges. Not to the extent it was.
Great video as usual. What model Sony video camera do you use? Looks to be great quality
Thank you! The camera is a Sony HXR-NX3 , a entry level broadcast camera that allows me to have full manual control over my shots. It's big and heavy , but does a great job and is a pleasure to use. They use them in TV production for second cameras but they have been upgraded to a new model which I'll get in a few years:-)
Cheers Gregg.
Thanks for the history lesson on the railway in Peterborough, facinating, didnt know you had 3 gauges in Australia.
All the more interesting as i was born in and still live close to Peterborough England. Was also a thriving railway town (actually city) in the steam era, sadly a shadow of its former self, although still quite a busy station on the east coast mainline.
Thanks for watching Jim! Yes , like the UK , we couldn't agree on one gauge, but at least you chose one in the late 1800's! There are many places down here with English names, some repeated around the country! Rail is slowly coming back in many places , which is good thing.
CHeers Gregg.
It's been many years since I was down that way, Gregg. Did a tour of the museum with a very knowledgeable young volunteer and had a delicious lunch at a local cafe. Hope to get back there next year with the van if we can overcome this nasty bug that keeps popping it's head up. Cheers:)
Hi Peter, we did the tour as well and it was very interesting! It's a shame they don't have any working trains on site, but I guess that would be a huge cost ? I also had a good feed in the old picture theatre cafe! It would of been a great place in the heydays for sure and I look forward to going back .
Cheers and thanks for watching.:-)
@@FishplateFilms Gregg, they had an old NSU Class loco running up and down in the yard the day we were there 👍😉
Awesome video Gregg, it’s amazing how they have three gauges in Australia, I see why you said they are 100 years behind. The Peterborough yard would be a nightmare to maintain. But fun to see. Seeing the passenger train topped the cake for me, it’s so cool to see the stainless steel coaches, all it needed was a warbonnets red and silver F7. Thank You for this video of the railroads down under, does the government still own the rail lines? Hope it’s getting cooler down there. Cheers from Terry in Nebraska.
Don't believe everything you hear. The information in video is not correct. The guage problem was caused by 2 things. The the governor of NSW at the time changed the agreement between the colonies of New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia to build to the 5'3" guage and went to the standard guage. The 3'6" guage was used because of the vast distances and the lack of money. I believe you're in America so you need to understand that Australia was only 60yrs under European settlement at this time and money from England was in extremely short supply. It's also a huge country and 70% is uninhabitable. The answer to your question about governments owning railways is only the metropolitan lines, all other lines are owned by the ARTC corporation and the rail system has never been in worse condition.
You have to give credit to the engineers that had to design the infrastructure and operational staff who had to operate the multigauge mess at these junction stations. I use to look at a set of double slip point levers, sometimes there were four of them...and choose which one to pull..and it was only ONE gauge!
Thats true Richard! SO much complication and expense ...all due to arrogance and ego! The sad thing is we are still dealing with it today!! The old signalmen were switched on for sure and you can't beat the look of a lever frame cabin!
Thanks for watching.
Gregg.
Interesting......BTW, do you also have a mouse problem??
Thanks ! Not so much in QLD, but down south they are in a bad way with mice !
Gregg :-)
Great video but i think you have your directions mistaken commentating the trains.
The first train is empty heading west, away from broken hill not towards, I’d suggest a steel train heading back to Whyalla, after returning from Sydney.
The second train is heading east away from Pirie to Adelaide line. That can only
Be heading to nsw . The Indian pacific is also heading west (roundhouse is west of the station) so must have been Perth bound from Sydney
Hope I don’t sound like a dick but growing up there the directions threw me
Off 😂
Cheers
Not sure I agree with you completely about Government ownership and operation. But I do see the argument of incompetence in design and cultural rivalry. Can't wait for a more historical look at this place, hope there's plenty of footage on the 400 class. Cheers
I think what Greg meant Adrian was that state governments of the day should not have been designing rail, they totally screwed up due to the rivalry, costing a fortune in later decades to get some sort of normality. Some states run rail quite well, in conjunction with private freight. The east coast especially does a reasonable job today..not perfect, nothing is. My concern is these corporate owned companies running excursion trips. e.g. The Ghan. The SA government should have kept it. Just like the real Overland they shared with Victorian Govt. Not the privately run government subsidised ugly blue and stainless steel thing they run today, and only twice a week. The seats in the original Overland were actually more comfortable, but the so called more modern ones in it now are a bit of a joke. Personal opinion.
You have a good point Adrian , in the early days, the States . especially NSW and QLD in my opinion, did a great job of building the railways as such . They did however, screw it up beyond words as they went on..LOL.
Thanks for watching.
Gregg.
@@125sloth this year marks 21yrs in QR for myself and I used to go to work with Dad from the 70's til his early retirement in 1994, so I am basing my opinion on those experiences. I would agree that Governments are incompetent in most of their organisational structures, but on the whole here in Queensland and Australia in general even with a lacklustre performance there was always a service provided and for a lot cheaper cost to the consumer, even though taxpayers subsidies contributed in part to that. I think I am looking at Gregg's statement from the point of view that we had it better when QR was the only Railway in Queensland and was totally government owned and operated. I now find myself having to work in several networks owned by QR and Aurizon with other operators such as PN and Watco etc... all having different safe working systems and operating rules. We have less rail traffic, and what we do have is run down, out dated and less efficient whilst being over regulated, so in my opinion privatisation has not been good.
How long was that passenger train?
The IP usually runs at around 30 cars...one of the longest in the world apparently ?
Gregg .
Mate you have not idea about train movements the so called mineral sands train is going empty to Broken Hill not to Adelaide and the IP is going to Perth in that direction, get your facts right mate.
The Indian pacific you filmed is on its way to Adelaide from Sydney
then Perth not what you narrated. You have all your directions totally wrong champ. Its last stop was Broken hill its next stop is Adelaide.
Well , thats the k last time I listen to the locals! I was told it was the Eastbound service!
Thanks for watching.
@@FishplateFilms yeah the other end of the yard is the track to broken Hill. The track going past the old round house is goes to Port Pirie. The train turns off a crystal brook and goes to Adelaide from there.