Lessons in Magecraft 33 - Ploy Kickshaw

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  • This series goes over the lore behind the magic system in Fate, Type Moon, and the Nasuverse at large. Our 33rd Lesson in Magecraft covers the witch Alice Kuonji and her Ploy Kickshaw witchcraft.
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ความคิดเห็น • 65

  • @otakudaikun
    @otakudaikun  2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I had to spoil myself quite a bit on Mahoyo to research this. Perhaps I should have waited until the english translation and my streams before covering it. It's not new info by any means though, and I guarantee it's not the same as playing the game for yourself.

    • @kelvinwebley6971
      @kelvinwebley6971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My guy how haven't u read this glorious vn as yet?!

    • @joshuataylor7443
      @joshuataylor7443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Otakudaikun I think you'll like the Taimanin visual novel's.

    • @WildArtistsl
      @WildArtistsl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kelvinwebley6971 yeah it's hard to find translation

    • @Sawtooth44
      @Sawtooth44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      all people above need to realise that this comment was made SIX MONTHS AGO
      now was there a translation for it during febuary?

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kelvinwebley6971 Lack of a full translation of course.

  • @ShinJack_
    @ShinJack_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Alice My Beloved...
    I can't wait when Alice become a popular character after the release of mahoyo remastered

  • @jameshadden1798
    @jameshadden1798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I’ll be honest, even as a someone who is rather deep into the Nasuverse lore and everything, this topic has always confused me as to what it is and how it works. You’ve certainly helped clear things up though.

  • @WildArtistsl
    @WildArtistsl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Man Alice did train the most strongest mage. While Toko studied in Clocktower and graduated her sister only had months under Alice tutelage and BEAT HER. Alice also is freaky strong.
    MnY is basically the best way to understand the basic of typemoo

  • @lucadomenichini4926
    @lucadomenichini4926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Having recently finished reading the whole visual novel (italian translation), I'm quite happy that you covered this topic. It was a very interesting overview, although most of the things are already told in the novel (and there is literally a whole extra episode about Sweet Hearts that is something like 4 hours long to read, but it gives you the idea of how it works)

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had to dig through some of the Italian translation to confirm certain details.

    • @lucadomenichini4926
      @lucadomenichini4926 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@otakudaikun If you want some help with the translation, feel free to ask :) (from japanese too)

  • @MariA-rt4vq
    @MariA-rt4vq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seeing this after reading mahoyo is everything❤

  • @chrisharte4280
    @chrisharte4280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I had a feeling that the Ainsworth Cards were going to get covered at some point. I am curious how they actually work.

  • @akurami2201
    @akurami2201 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Imagine if Alice became playable in fgo. Would be rad.

    • @cah137-y4s
      @cah137-y4s 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well this comment aged like fine wine XD

    • @akurami2201
      @akurami2201 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ikr

  • @PurpleHeartE54
    @PurpleHeartE54 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Alice Kuonji..
    She's one of my personal favorite characters I barely know the lore of. In terms of looks, stunning..

  • @axelnetzahualcoyotl5223
    @axelnetzahualcoyotl5223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great lesson,it was really interesting and it gave me a lot of hype for the visual novel's international release.

  • @ozeiburganie9335
    @ozeiburganie9335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I finished reding mahoyo in both french and italien recently and I was really happy to see this vid.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had to look at those versions to get some details still untranslated into English.

  • @cpyairsuss5728
    @cpyairsuss5728 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cock Robin can actually die in place of Alice once per night, which is actually a powerful technique. This is what happened during the fight between Touko vs Alice.
    Alice, and the Kickshaw Ploy are my favorite things in all of Nasuverse. Their Folklore defense is something that makes them indomitable to all things outside of their 'Stories'.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I dont recall it specifying how often Robin's ability refreshes.

    • @cpyairsuss5728
      @cpyairsuss5728 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@otakudaikun Given their usual rules, I would potentially say once per night. As he reappears after the Touko fight if I recall correctly.
      Or, perhaps Alice just needs to construct a new vessel for him of clay and paint first.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cpyairsuss5728 Alice doesn't use it on herself twice. The second time, it replaces Aoko, so I assumed it was once per person. The rule isn't clarified as far as I can tell.

    • @cpyairsuss5728
      @cpyairsuss5728 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@otakudaikun No, I meant that he reappears as a bird to annoy her later, not the redeployment of the ability. As his physiology, like all ploys, is something that Alice has to handcraft in the event the medium is destroyed. Such as how she has to remake Scratch Dumpty after each 'explosive' usage.
      When Touko traps her with the mystic eyes, Alice seemingly uses Cock Robin to escape.

  • @pyronable
    @pyronable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, I'm impressed

  • @michaelblair5146
    @michaelblair5146 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos I'm thoroughly obsessed with your series and fate.

  • @BrasorWind
    @BrasorWind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excelent class as always, senseis. Hopefully it would help me in the next exam...

  • @arks_knights
    @arks_knights 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just a few more months before the release of the movie i really hope it becomes popular

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think we have a release date on the movie. We do for the game tho.

    • @arks_knights
      @arks_knights 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@otakudaikun atleast we know that a movie is in production unlike a remake of certain route(saber)

  • @ren_suzugamori1427
    @ren_suzugamori1427 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally! Almost there! Be ready, because I'm gonna freak out about Class Cards!

  • @stevepitt-ash4628
    @stevepitt-ash4628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank for another wonderful lesson professor dai good thing to play as I play xenoblade keep up the great work

  • @Emerardo
    @Emerardo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lets gooo another lesson on magecraft!!

  • @liliya_aseeva
    @liliya_aseeva 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If she would be a HSR character, she definitely would be on the Nihility path (debuffs on enemies, DOT and circumstances enhancing). Also I would like to emphasize how her whole body is covered in magical crest, almost like Einzberns do, despite the fact she's a human and not an automaton like Einzbern puppets.

  • @whitefox3189
    @whitefox3189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Her 3 Greats are the reason why I theorise that Yumina was the wielder of 1st Magic.
    Her magecraft effectively lets her use Denial of Nothingness - that which is not possible, but materialises.
    The beings she makes are pure fiction, not even existing in the Age of Gods.
    Flat Snark, one of the 3 Greats, a product of the 1st Witch Yumina, being stated to be impossible to reproduce. Magecraft is supposed to be anything that can be made if given infinite time and resources. Flat Snark clearly violates this rule and yet it is also not a Divine Construct.

  • @hugolalej
    @hugolalej 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hellow ,here I am reporting that I love this kind of videos. Thanks Dai

  • @alexa9673
    @alexa9673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lesson dai I hope you command spells in the future

  • @licenetospam
    @licenetospam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Time magic might be a topic for a future lesson

  • @Luca-yb4sh
    @Luca-yb4sh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alice, my joy! Best girl and character in Mahoyo, second best in Nasuverse (after Artoria of course).

  • @justsomeemokidfrompersona3825
    @justsomeemokidfrompersona3825 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finished the VN an hour ago, Alice is cute

  • @povilzem
    @povilzem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This all sounds suspiciously similar to Nursery Rhyme from Extra...

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very similar concept.

  • @Zaber177
    @Zaber177 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we see a class based in Gem Magecraft? Be a fun t hing to hear your take on it.

  • @correctfalcon6749
    @correctfalcon6749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Dai typemoon fandom wiki recently has updated about zelretch,Association director, meluastea family and many other information
    I just want to notify you

  • @niekvanderhorst6065
    @niekvanderhorst6065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    More plz

  • @unignorance7736
    @unignorance7736 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how did you not mention soujyuro my goat

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because he's not a ploy. I did a full on lore covering Mahoyo if you wanna see him.

    • @unignorance7736
      @unignorance7736 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@otakudaikun i was going to reply sum about "Aoko aint a ploy too" but you did make a video so ill go watch it😄

  • @smurphy8881
    @smurphy8881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m still not clear on the difference between mage craft and witch craft. It seems like witch craft is op and overly dependent on consensus reality being exploited and manipulated.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Witchcraft is simply a subset of Magecraft that deals with black magic and curses.

  • @overlord.darkness
    @overlord.darkness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please tell us about the Outer Gods and their influence on the universe? What are they? Where are they from? I think these questions require an answer

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a lesson on alien beings and I mention the outer gods there. It's not public yet though. To be fair a lot of stuff on the outer gods is intentionally meant to be unknown.

    • @overlord.darkness
      @overlord.darkness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@otakudaikun It's just that Sut-Typhon is referred to as something that borders on all possible dimensions and is tied to all possible things, which is why its role and abilities in the Nasuverse are really unclear.

  • @thomasthecoolkid7228
    @thomasthecoolkid7228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alright, next part's gonna be about the one part about Prisma Illya that you can't deny is genuinely _cool_ without being a goddamn liar. Let's see the kind of shitstorm simply bringing up anything from Prisma Illya causes.

  • @Rakkun_Streak
    @Rakkun_Streak ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sorry, this video is excellent and vry interesting on the magic takes about. This could be a power system in another story all by itself...
    However, i couldn't stop myself from laughing at 9:55, like... Are Clowns objects? I know that it probably meant like plastic Clowns or Inflatable Clowns, but either way. It just made me think Clowns aren't human so they manifested.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  ปีที่แล้ว

      More like a clown mascot.

    • @Rakkun_Streak
      @Rakkun_Streak ปีที่แล้ว

      @@otakudaikun Ahh, that makes sense. But who the F would have a Clown Mascot for an Amusement Park? That's like 10 cliches in one.
      But yeah, i know it was an abandoned amusement park, it was just a random thought.

  • @memoryofsalem4474
    @memoryofsalem4474 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay sooooo, she is just a weaker nursery rhyme? Nursery can also do the above mentioned but with the main difference that she can just summon Fairy tale based servants

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually think Alice could give Nursery a run for her money.

    • @memoryofsalem4474
      @memoryofsalem4474 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@otakudaikun I genuinely doubt that given how actually cracked nursery rhyme is. Her kit is, lorewise, genuinely one of the scariest you can be up against, the games just fail to portray that correctly

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@memoryofsalem4474 Her friggin jabberwocky is terrifying. Alice has some crazy stuff of her own though. It'd be a wild fight.