Both saws are using new Stihl RS 3/8 chain. The guide bars are not the same, but that will have little affect on the validity of this comparison. #Srihl #MS462 #husqvarna #572xp
For those who still have questions about the actual power output of these chainsaws, here is a link to these saws being run on a Dyno. www.arboristsite.com/threads/new-70cc-class-saws-dyno-day.347213/
I agree with your statement “a firewood cutters dream”. It’s so light and powerful that it feels like you can cut logs all day. I want to cut logs all day with it. I have a 201tc, 261c, 462c, 661c and have not had any mtronic issues. I did update the control module, solenoid and fuel filter on the 661, because of reported Issues with older versions.
Very good comparison my friend. My experience compared between this to saw,stihl plastic cover more hard/stronger than husky if fall down but husky engine is more durability and endurance.The crankshaft of new stihl model not so good for daily use ,sorry my bad english
Had the reminder set on this one! Couldn’t have compared 2 saws any better tbh, your comparison videos are the best out there man! Great job. I’ll just say, the 572 simply backs down on RPMs in the cut. Do you think Husqvarna’s firmware is built to compensate in the cut differently than Stihls? Or does 2 cc make that much of a difference? Both great saws regardless. (Sorry for the book😂)
I like both saws quite a lot. I think the 462 just has more power do to better port layout and overall engine design. I doubt the 2cc is the difference.
What's odd to me is it sounded like the xp held slightly higher rpms, which with the same chain at a higher rpm shoulda cut faster. Maybe just the note of that exhaust made it sound a tad higher
Both great saws, run them both and own a slightly modded 462, running 66 dl 404. In Australian hard wood it is torque and the ability to pull 404 that counts. I reckon stock the 462 might just have it but some respected builders think the 572 has more potential for improvement. Both seem to be great modern day medium size professional saws.
@Dennis Coon slightly modded? Pulled the base gasket on mine, slightly advanced timing and dual ported the muffler. Seems to run a little better but it could just be me. What'd you do to yours ?
Ran chainsaws ALL my life. What it comes down to, in my opinion, is personal preference. I prefer Stihl easier to work on, light, gas efficient, and powerful. Great video! 😊
I’ve run a 462 and 572 a good bit equally and I prefer the 572 simply because it’s been trouble free where the 462 hasn’t. I love both but I believe the 572 will be the longer lasting saw.
i have both saws too...i ran stihl bars on both, the 572 would out cut the 462 with a 32 inch bar all day...plus the stihl would not start when the engine was up to temp, you could pull on the sob for 2 hours and it wouldn't start, that 572 is the easiest best starting saw i have ever had, and i have a collection...i think that 462 is junk...
Junk? Not even. If you choose not to believe my videos, that's fine good for you. However, both saws were also run on a dyno, and the 462 is ahead of the 572xp. Myself and Dyno Joe are offering empirical data, you however have presented nothing but an opinion. th-cam.com/video/w0k-DnYFO0A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lMIf-DnNn-AfS_zz
32:1 Maxima K2. 40:1 will work just fine too especially with thicker oils like Motul 800. My top oils in no particular order. Maxima K2 or Maxima Super M Honda HP2 Motul 710 Motul 800 off road Amsoil Dominator Amsoil Saber Echo Red Armor. I no longer recommend Yamalube.
@@Andyshine77 I switched to belray H1R at 40:1 and my 462 takes longer to crank now. Seven pulls every time now if the saw has been sitting for a while. Usually several weeks. My trimmer, a stihl also, FS 230 I think 🤔 normally sees action every week. It has gotten cantankerous as well. Used to start first pull now it's two or three. Think I'm going to cut back to 50:1 on the next can and see what happens. Previously ran stihl oil. Before I knew better.
@@SixOFord this is because Belray H1R is too viscous for use in non racing small engines, it likes to inhibit combustion, as I've stated before. I would recommend switching to a lighter oil instead of a different ratio.✌
@@Andyshine77 curious as to why you do not mix 50:1? which is what stihl says to mix. i cut in the cold most of the time but have been told by mechanics that to much oil is as bad as not enough.
A too much oil in a four stroke engine is bad, two cycle engines are totally different, the engine burns off most of the oil while it's running. So that statement is not applicable. To a degree more oil is better in two cycle equipment, it also depends on the application and size of the engine, weed eaters and blowers do fine on leaner ratios like 50:1
Stihl’s have always had more torque in my experience. Husqvarna’s seem to do better in the softer wood or if you arent heavy handed. But damn, you just cant beat how smooth they run. I’ll take a slightly slower saw for the anti-vibe anyday. Im gettin older and those vibes are gettin to me more so now. Granted i havent run a 462 before. But the 460, 461 and the 441 couldnt compare to husky.
I see more buildup around the rings and even a little on the piston skirt. I also would like to have seen more residual oil on the bottom end. Don't det me wrong it's a good product, but I've seen better.
I wonder which one would last the longest? , The arborist company I work for has a 462 , and I love it. I've also used a mates 572, and really like it. If you want lightness go for 462 though. Both great saws.
The both seem to be holding up. A few bearing and carb issues with the 572, but not wide spread. The 462 has significant design changes that were implemented earlier this year. The piston and cylinder are a totally new design, and the case was beefed up around the bar studs. The case was known to crack around the studs with really long bars, mostly with the loggers out west. I agree both are incredibly good saws.
Yes both saws are broken in. The has the most use, I've ran a good 10 gallons of fuel through it. The 462 has about 10 tanks of fuel, so if anything the 462 may gain just a hair.
The 572 was broken in, like I said. The the 572 has less power than the 462 and 500i, the dyno results match my findings to a T. The 572 is not in the same ballpark as a 661. Here are the dyno results, only the Echo 7310 has less power than the 572. www.arboristsite.com/threads/new-70cc-class-saws-dyno-day.347213/
Good morning. Are both saws well broke in? You should do a video with both of them running 20" bars and an 8 pin 😬. I bet the x-cut chain would be faster 😜.
The reason for these comparisons is to get an understanding of each saw performance and power to weight. In this case the 572 is over 1.5 lbs heavier than the 462 yet is less powerful. To some that have to carry a saw all day this matters. I agree both saws are fantastic nonetheless.
Muy lindas las sthil pero ahy algo que no me gusta que es el agarre del acelerador creo que sthil ya deveria modificar esto ase rato por eso me qedo con la husqvarna
Hi, i am going to buy a 572 tomorrow...does it have any issues?? I have heard it's a reliable saw and doesn't have the issues that 550 and 562 had...is it true??
Much better saw than the 550 or 562. Only issue I've heard of is a few bearing failures and the oiler is a little weak, no saw is perfect though, I'd buy another in a heartbeat
Really crank bearing size shouldn't be a huge factor, given the housing is strong and provides enough support. The big end rod bearing is more important, and the main reason to run more oil in your mix, as the biggest weakness in the 372 was the big end bearing, running the saw with a proper tune and more oil "40:1 or even 32:1" will keep the big end bearing happy, and the crank seals wet and sealed up.
Any preferences between M-tronic and Auto-tune? I was told M-tronic is basically Husqvarna's first generation electronic carb technology and Husqvarna is using generation II technology on their newer saws. Can you shed any knowledge on this? I was told M-tronic has or had a lot of "bugs" to be worked out. I can't remember, but supposedly Stihl has or is currently working the "bugs" out over time. I'm not that knowledgeable about electronic carb technology. I do understand the intended purpose and basic function. Which technology is considered better, I don't truly know. I've watched several comparison videos of the 572XP and MS 462... The MS 462 was the timed winner in everyone so far and the reviewers all commented on how the Stihl had more torque and held its rpms better in the cut. I'd love an MS 462, but the electronic carbs are what make me hesitant. I've read tons of horror stories on electronic carb equipped chainsaws, regardless of brand. That's one reason I'm drawn to the 7310P. Sorry for the book... Your very knowledgeable and I'm curious to learn. Thanks!
Both manufactures have had some issues, most of which were related to things other than the M-tronic or AT systems. Stihl has has much less sever issues, mostly with the solenoid that controls fuel mixture, they tended to fail early do to contamination, this has been resolved with updated solenoid design, and maybe more importantly a fuel filter that filters to a smaller micron, this has as far I can tell fixed the problem full stop. The 661 was troublesome and has undergone numerous design changes including those I mentioned above. The 462 has one real change and that was a to strengthen the case around the bar studs, the cases were cracking when loggers out west were running real long bars. The 462 runs M-tronic V3. The first generation Husqvarna 5 series saws "ie 550xp, 562xp were a disaster on many levels, the basic design was flawed from top to bottom, this is why the 550 was completely redesigned and the 562 has undergone significant changes, too many to list here. On top of that Husqvarna has suffered wide spread QC problems. The one exception here is the 572xp, so far the model has been solid. When it comes to the technology, most of what you will find on the net is hogwash, M-tronic was developed by Stihl, Husqvarna developed the Auto Tune. Why would a company like Stihl use old tech? hell Stihl has a fuel injected saw, Stihl is way ahead of Husqvarna right now. The real problem with Husqvarna's AT was horrible cheap carburetors, and constant firmware updates to try and fix the issues with the carb it's self, which required you to go to a dealer, most dealers do not have the proper equipment or know how. Stihl has never sent out a firmware update, no need. Besides the solenoid issue Stihl had, they have been very reliable, and if a solenoid does fail, it's extremely simple to replace. I would not hesitate to buy any Stihl saw made today, I would never buy a 562xp, though the 550 MK-II looks OK and I actually like the 572xp. The Echo is a good value and is simple, but it's very heavy for the displacement and out of the box down on power.
@@Andyshine77 Thank-you so very much for all the information! I'm not going to mention any names. But sadly, the information I received came from another TH-cam channel that reviews chainsaws and other outdoor power equipment, and as well, sells and services outdoor power equipment to my knowledge. It seems so hard to find unbiased or honest reviews. Some of what you said is in line with what I was told, but the vast majority is the complete opposite. I was only willing to contemplate buying a Husqvarna 550XP MKII, 562XP (2020), or 572XP based on the previous information. But in the back of my mind I had my nagging doubts about some of the previous info as it didn't make sense to my thinking. Inquiring minds want to know, so here I came. I've watched enough of your videos along with reading your comments to see that you are extremely knowledgeable, truly unbiased and a straight shooter. That's a rare thing in a lot of these reviews. I truly appreciate it! I am now no longer hesitant towards Stihl. I honestly have nothing against electronic carbs or fuel injection as long as the technology functions properly. I'm thrilled to hear this info about Stihl... That MS 462 is a saw I dream of owning! Thank-You!
@@obeconoberougle9497 All this is very useful info nd beyond my level of experience. I also have to function off rumours since I cannot affrod to run every saw. I did hear that it would be wise to stay away from the electronic carbs due to them wanting to run lean to gain power, which leads to heat issues. So unless a saw is stated to be developed to run cooler, it could be trouble in hot climates or milling. I also do not know why or how to know what the proper oil to run or what mixture is actually better for any saw. Supposedly i need to run my Poulan at 40:1 but my Husky 555 at 50:1. I have limited access to oils at all so I'm not gonna say what I get stuck with buying for that. But, you could sink a ship with the info that I do not know. I also watched a few other YT channels about a teardown of some saws and they mde it sound like Stihl was just now beginnign to adopt some current Husky designs. That's gotta count for something.
@@brotherlove100 I know the electronic carb equipped saws are supposed to read and constantly adjust the air/fuel mixture based upon a whole set of variables. The problem is like you stated. In an attempt to achieve maximum performance they can run on the lean side, thus prematurely wearing the saw out or even causing the saw to destroy itself. I think the technology is a great idea... IF it functions properly. As far as oil ratios... I think 40:1 is an optimum balance. And like I've been told, never run a chainsaw on anything less than 50:1. Today's oils are far superior. I like Red Armor and Maxima Formula K2 racing oil. Watch Bobe8888's video on oils. He uses and recommended it. That's how I learned about it.
1122 664 0501 for the west cost spike kit. Some find the West Coast spikes too aggressive in hardwood and prefer the 064 spikes. 064 inner spike 1122 664 0505 outer 1122 664 0500. The chain catcher 1122-650-7700
The husky definitely looks cooler tho. That’s more important. That’s worth a half second. Plus their older and have a cooler history. I mean come on. The whole factory was powered by the river way back in 1860 something ish.
That is true but the Husqvarna is easier start, more reliable and will out live the Stihl between rebuilds. I have had many of both and like both for the different reasons listed but as I'm getting older, I find that I only ever grab my Husqvarna's due to the very low effort required to pull start them.
I like both saws. But The 462 has twice the lifespan of the the husky. I've killed 2 572's in the last 2 years but my older 462 is still screaming since 2018. And she gets used. Funny, I bought the first 572 anticipating the 462 would wear out😆. I love running huskies, very comfortable saws for me. But in my experience, Stihl just has the longevity. Those old huskies, man did they scream! Beat the pants off Stihl in speed back in the 80's and 90's. Think Stihl has them licked these days.
That's hard to say. Some 572's had crank bearings letting go, but that seems to have been fixed. The 462 has had some issues with the case cracking around the bar studs with longer bars 32"+. Also, excessive piston wear, up until 2021, designed changes to beef up the case, and a totally new piston and cylinder designed. Keep in mind those issues were on really high hour saws, and now, with the changes a non-issue. IMHO, at this point, both saws seem to be very reliable and durable, pick the one that best fits your needs, and don't worry about it.
I know the earlier 5 series saws have issues, but I thought the 572 was pretty durable because of its bottom end, is that not the case? Is your mate having trouble with the 572?
Smaller saw beat the larger Husqvarna. I take it you're a husky fan boy. 🤣 I compared them because they're in the same basic cc class and are often used in similar situations.
@@Andyshine77 t HF Thank you! I figured it out watching another video. That would be the exact setup I want with those exact looking larger dogs. The ones they provide are stupid. And you end up chewing up the front of the saw. How much were the STIHL dogs and chain catcher?
Husqvarna eğer ki hizlı kesme saniyesini stihle karşı çözerse vay haline stihl in. Birde tabii ki fiyat farkı var .yarı yarıya Aşırı derece pahalı stihller!!!.
@Dustin isa Snyder Did you check out the link in my last post? The saws have been ran on a dyno the 462 makes more power end of story. There is a thing called confirmation bias, this is where scientific testing weeds out brand bias, perception is powerful thing and is very misleading.
Quote from Mastermind: ''I've got guys trading in Stihls for the 572XP. Seriously. It's the 70cc saw I recommend most often.'' And that's coming from a Stihl fanboy.
You might want to get back with Randy on that, he's seen QC problems and has stopped porting them because of that and some other issues. I still think it's a good saw, but Husqvarna has QC problems. I'll be getting a 592 the moment they come out.
@@llyodmilward4045 Randy said some have 2,000 bored feet on them and they're fine, but a few have had bearings that failed, plus some small QC issus, one had a filter on so tight he had to cut it off. I had to replace the oil pump on the saw in the video, it slowly stop pumping, all good now.
@@Andyshine77 Just read the thread, do you know if its just a bad batch lately? Because less than a year ago Randy was saying how the 572 was getting better feedback from his customers than the 462.
For those who still have questions about the actual power output of these chainsaws, here is a link to these saws being run on a Dyno. www.arboristsite.com/threads/new-70cc-class-saws-dyno-day.347213/
Both real good saw's , but i love my 462 . Lightweight and she rips .
The 462 is about the perfect saw out there, a firewood cutters dream.
I agree with your statement “a firewood cutters dream”. It’s so light and powerful that it feels like you can cut logs all day. I want to cut logs all day with it. I have a 201tc, 261c, 462c, 661c and have not had any mtronic issues. I did update the control module, solenoid and fuel filter on the 661, because of reported Issues with older versions.
Nice cutting. Smooth all the way through can’t go wrong with either saw 👍
Right on
Very good comparison my friend. My experience compared between this to saw,stihl plastic cover more hard/stronger than husky if fall down but husky engine is more durability and endurance.The crankshaft of new stihl model not so good for daily use ,sorry my bad english
Absolutely agree my friend.
Had the reminder set on this one!
Couldn’t have compared 2 saws any better tbh, your comparison videos are the best out there man! Great job.
I’ll just say, the 572 simply backs down on RPMs in the cut. Do you think Husqvarna’s firmware is built to compensate in the cut differently than Stihls? Or does 2 cc make that much of a difference? Both great saws regardless. (Sorry for the book😂)
I like both saws quite a lot. I think the 462 just has more power do to better port layout and overall engine design. I doubt the 2cc is the difference.
What's odd to me is it sounded like the xp held slightly higher rpms, which with the same chain at a higher rpm shoulda cut faster. Maybe just the note of that exhaust made it sound a tad higher
I've noticed Huskys are louder in general. A plus for me, a negative for some.
Both great saws, run them both and own a slightly modded 462, running 66 dl 404. In Australian hard wood it is torque and the ability to pull 404 that counts.
I reckon stock the 462 might just have it but some respected builders think the 572 has more potential for improvement.
Both seem to be great modern day medium size professional saws.
@Dennis Coon slightly modded? Pulled the base gasket on mine, slightly advanced timing and dual ported the muffler. Seems to run a little better but it could just be me. What'd you do to yours ?
Just one of Rich Dougans Buckshots. I figure Maxflow won't be able to do anything with this air box set up
@@denisthemenace. I did see an aftermarket foam filter I may try. West coast saws I think has it.
The 572 weighs heavy like a 461... and the 461 ported will eat both alive even if by the same builder
Looks like the sthil 462 out cut the 572 husky. Both of them are good saws Though I would prefer the stihl.
Ran chainsaws ALL my life. What it comes down to, in my opinion, is personal preference. I prefer Stihl easier to work on, light, gas efficient, and powerful. Great video! 😊
Thanks for using a straight drop-cut (no, I have no CLUE if that's a real term or not).
That seems like as fair a way to compare as there is.
Thank you! I try to be as fair as possible.
I’ve run a 462 and 572 a good bit equally and I prefer the 572 simply because it’s been trouble free where the 462 hasn’t. I love both but I believe the 572 will be the longer lasting saw.
i have both saws too...i ran stihl bars on both, the 572 would out cut the 462 with a 32 inch bar all day...plus the stihl would not start when the engine was up to temp, you could pull on the sob for 2 hours and it wouldn't start, that 572 is the easiest best starting saw i have ever had, and i have a collection...i think that 462 is junk...
Junk? Not even. If you choose not to believe my videos, that's fine good for you. However, both saws were also run on a dyno, and the 462 is ahead of the 572xp. Myself and Dyno Joe are offering empirical data, you however have presented nothing but an opinion.
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The 462 is a amazing saw light and plenty of power I also own a 661 but I prefer using the 462
For most things the 462is about the best all around saw out there.
I figured the Stihl would walk the Husky on this one. Bob what do you mix your autotune saws at and what is your preferred oil? Thanks for the video
32:1 Maxima K2. 40:1 will work just fine too especially with thicker oils like Motul 800.
My top oils in no particular order.
Maxima K2 or Maxima Super M
Honda HP2
Motul 710
Motul 800 off road
Amsoil Dominator
Amsoil Saber
Echo Red Armor.
I no longer recommend Yamalube.
@@Andyshine77 I switched to belray H1R at 40:1 and my 462 takes longer to crank now. Seven pulls every time now if the saw has been sitting for a while. Usually several weeks.
My trimmer, a stihl also, FS 230 I think 🤔 normally sees action every week. It has gotten cantankerous as well. Used to start first pull now it's two or three. Think I'm going to cut back to 50:1 on the next can and see what happens.
Previously ran stihl oil. Before I knew better.
@@SixOFord this is because Belray H1R is too viscous for use in non racing small engines, it likes to inhibit combustion, as I've stated before. I would recommend switching to a lighter oil instead of a different ratio.✌
@@Andyshine77 curious as to why you do not mix 50:1? which is what stihl says to mix. i cut in the cold most of the time but have been told by mechanics that to much oil is as bad as not enough.
A too much oil in a four stroke engine is bad, two cycle engines are totally different, the engine burns off most of the oil while it's running. So that statement is not applicable. To a degree more oil is better in two cycle equipment, it also depends on the application and size of the engine, weed eaters and blowers do fine on leaner ratios like 50:1
Stihl’s have always had more torque in my experience. Husqvarna’s seem to do better in the softer wood or if you arent heavy handed. But damn, you just cant beat how smooth they run. I’ll take a slightly slower saw for the anti-vibe anyday. Im gettin older and those vibes are gettin to me more so now. Granted i havent run a 462 before. But the 460, 461 and the 441 couldnt compare to husky.
What is your reason for not recommending Yamalube any more? I use 2R is my saws quite a bit, so always keen to hear other peoples experiences.
I see more buildup around the rings and even a little on the piston skirt. I also would like to have seen more residual oil on the bottom end. Don't det me wrong it's a good product, but I've seen better.
I wonder which one would last the longest? ,
The arborist company I work for has a 462 , and I love it.
I've also used a mates 572, and really like it.
If you want lightness go for 462 though.
Both great saws.
The both seem to be holding up. A few bearing and carb issues with the 572, but not wide spread. The 462 has significant design changes that were implemented earlier this year. The piston and cylinder are a totally new design, and the case was beefed up around the bar studs. The case was known to crack around the studs with really long bars, mostly with the loggers out west.
I agree both are incredibly good saws.
Son dos máquinas de gran calidad.Cualquier elección entre ambas maquinas seria igual de buena.
I agree.
Are both saws broken in? You know all the talk about the 572 having the break in window.
Yes both saws are broken in. The has the most use, I've ran a good 10 gallons of fuel through it. The 462 has about 10 tanks of fuel, so if anything the 462 may gain just a hair.
Once the 572 is broak in it will out cut the 462 by 572xp keeps up with my 385 xp same with my 661c
The 572 was broken in, like I said.
The the 572 has less power than the 462 and 500i, the dyno results match my findings to a T. The 572 is not in the same ballpark as a 661.
Here are the dyno results, only the Echo 7310 has less power than the 572. www.arboristsite.com/threads/new-70cc-class-saws-dyno-day.347213/
Good morning.
Are both saws well broke in?
You should do a video with both of them running 20" bars and an 8 pin 😬.
I bet the x-cut chain would be faster 😜.
Yes the 462 is now broke in, the 572 has been for awhile.
X-cut sure lol.
@@Andyshine77 awesome.
I still like the handling of the husky better.
That x chain is nice chain, the EXL is great too.
Stihl chain isn't the fastest cutting for sure, I just like the durability.
@@Andyshine77 the steel seems like it’s harder than woodpecker lips compared to Oregon chain
I have been waiting for this one, Great Video!
Thanks.
Отличное видео, молодец.
Both saws is on par with each other and 1 second cut time faster makes not enough difference. Pick your flavor of saw and cut some wood.
The reason for these comparisons is to get an understanding of each saw performance and power to weight. In this case the 572 is over 1.5 lbs heavier than the 462 yet is less powerful. To some that have to carry a saw all day this matters. I agree both saws are fantastic nonetheless.
@@Andyshine77 I agree 100%. 1.5 pounds extra lifted 100 times or more a day adds up.
Pur a 18" or 20" bar and 462 becomes light Saber!! Speaking of wood cutters dream.🤣
Both are great saws, go with the better dealer near you.
An overview and summary would have been nice just to finish the good video off
I will be doing an overview of all the new 70cc saws.
@@Andyshine77 perfect
@@Andyshine77 Have you done the 70cc saw overview yet? Or is it coming after the holidays? Take care and Happy New Year!
@@obeconoberougle9497 It's coming in the next week or two, I promise. Happy New Year to you!
Muy lindas las sthil pero ahy algo que no me gusta que es el agarre del acelerador creo que sthil ya deveria modificar esto ase rato por eso me qedo con la husqvarna
When saws are making dust and not chips, sharpen the chain.
Hi, i am going to buy a 572 tomorrow...does it have any issues?? I have heard it's a reliable saw and doesn't have the issues that 550 and 562 had...is it true??
Much better saw than the 550 or 562. Only issue I've heard of is a few bearing failures and the oiler is a little weak, no saw is perfect though, I'd buy another in a heartbeat
Just picked up a MS462C this morning with a 28” bar. Man it’s like a missile vs a firecracker compared to my homeowner MS211C 😂
Yeah going from a 211 to a 462 is a huge jump. Enjoy your new saw!
@@Andyshine77 thank you! Now I need to track down a set of those bumper spikes
@@LeuCustomKnives local Stihl dealer can order everything.
Got a 572/bullet proof. Next
i have a 372 from 2001 that i use in my business, still runs perfect. The 572 is supposed to be even better built, not sure about the 462 though
462 all the way. Yeah the 372 is one of the best 70cc saws ever made...
@@Andyshine77 i do like the fact that the 572 has 6203 bearings, do you think it would last longer than the 372?
Really crank bearing size shouldn't be a huge factor, given the housing is strong and provides enough support. The big end rod bearing is more important, and the main reason to run more oil in your mix, as the biggest weakness in the 372 was the big end bearing, running the saw with a proper tune and more oil "40:1 or even 32:1" will keep the big end bearing happy, and the crank seals wet and sealed up.
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Any preferences between M-tronic and Auto-tune? I was told M-tronic is basically Husqvarna's first generation electronic carb technology and Husqvarna is using generation II technology on their newer saws. Can you shed any knowledge on this? I was told M-tronic has or had a lot of "bugs" to be worked out. I can't remember, but supposedly Stihl has or is currently working the "bugs" out over time. I'm not that knowledgeable about electronic carb technology. I do understand the intended purpose and basic function. Which technology is considered better, I don't truly know.
I've watched several comparison videos of the 572XP and MS 462... The MS 462 was the timed winner in everyone so far and the reviewers all commented on how the Stihl had more torque and held its rpms better in the cut. I'd love an MS 462, but the electronic carbs are what make me hesitant. I've read tons of horror stories on electronic carb equipped chainsaws, regardless of brand. That's one reason I'm drawn to the 7310P.
Sorry for the book... Your very knowledgeable and I'm curious to learn. Thanks!
Both manufactures have had some issues, most of which were related to things other than the M-tronic or AT systems. Stihl has has much less sever issues, mostly with the solenoid that controls fuel mixture, they tended to fail early do to contamination, this has been resolved with updated solenoid design, and maybe more importantly a fuel filter that filters to a smaller micron, this has as far I can tell fixed the problem full stop. The 661 was troublesome and has undergone numerous design changes including those I mentioned above. The 462 has one real change and that was a to strengthen the case around the bar studs, the cases were cracking when loggers out west were running real long bars. The 462 runs M-tronic V3.
The first generation Husqvarna 5 series saws "ie 550xp, 562xp were a disaster on many levels, the basic design was flawed from top to bottom, this is why the 550 was completely redesigned and the 562 has undergone significant changes, too many to list here. On top of that Husqvarna has suffered wide spread QC problems. The one exception here is the 572xp, so far the model has been solid.
When it comes to the technology, most of what you will find on the net is hogwash, M-tronic was developed by Stihl, Husqvarna developed the Auto Tune. Why would a company like Stihl use old tech? hell Stihl has a fuel injected saw, Stihl is way ahead of Husqvarna right now. The real problem with Husqvarna's AT was horrible cheap carburetors, and constant firmware updates to try and fix the issues with the carb it's self, which required you to go to a dealer, most dealers do not have the proper equipment or know how. Stihl has never sent out a firmware update, no need.
Besides the solenoid issue Stihl had, they have been very reliable, and if a solenoid does fail, it's extremely simple to replace.
I would not hesitate to buy any Stihl saw made today, I would never buy a 562xp, though the 550 MK-II looks OK and I actually like the 572xp. The Echo is a good value and is simple, but it's very heavy for the displacement and out of the box down on power.
@@Andyshine77 Thank-you so very much for all the information! I'm not going to mention any names. But sadly, the information I received came from another TH-cam channel that reviews chainsaws and other outdoor power equipment, and as well, sells and services outdoor power equipment to my knowledge.
It seems so hard to find unbiased or honest reviews. Some of what you said is in line with what I was told, but the vast majority is the complete opposite.
I was only willing to contemplate buying a Husqvarna 550XP MKII, 562XP (2020), or 572XP based on the previous information.
But in the back of my mind I had my nagging doubts about some of the previous info as it didn't make sense to my thinking. Inquiring minds want to know, so here I came. I've watched enough of your videos along with reading your comments to see that you are extremely knowledgeable, truly unbiased and a straight shooter. That's a rare thing in a lot of these reviews. I truly appreciate it! I am now no longer hesitant towards Stihl. I honestly have nothing against electronic carbs or fuel injection as long as the technology functions properly.
I'm thrilled to hear this info about Stihl... That MS 462 is a saw I dream of owning!
Thank-You!
@@obeconoberougle9497 All this is very useful info nd beyond my level of experience. I also have to function off rumours since I cannot affrod to run every saw. I did hear that it would be wise to stay away from the electronic carbs due to them wanting to run lean to gain power, which leads to heat issues. So unless a saw is stated to be developed to run cooler, it could be trouble in hot climates or milling. I also do not know why or how to know what the proper oil to run or what mixture is actually better for any saw. Supposedly i need to run my Poulan at 40:1 but my Husky 555 at 50:1. I have limited access to oils at all so I'm not gonna say what I get stuck with buying for that. But, you could sink a ship with the info that I do not know. I also watched a few other YT channels about a teardown of some saws and they mde it sound like Stihl was just now beginnign to adopt some current Husky designs. That's gotta count for something.
@@brotherlove100 I know the electronic carb equipped saws are supposed to read and constantly adjust the air/fuel mixture based upon a whole set of variables. The problem is like you stated. In an attempt to achieve maximum performance they can run on the lean side, thus prematurely wearing the saw out or even causing the saw to destroy itself. I think the technology is a great idea... IF it functions properly. As far as oil ratios... I think 40:1 is an optimum balance. And like I've been told, never run a chainsaw on anything less than 50:1. Today's oils are far superior. I like Red Armor and Maxima Formula K2 racing oil. Watch Bobe8888's video on oils. He uses and recommended it. That's how I learned about it.
40:1 with good oil will allow most saws to run a long long time.
what is the part number for the felling spikes you have on the 462?
1122 664 0501 for the west cost spike kit. Some find the West Coast spikes too aggressive in hardwood and prefer the 064 spikes. 064 inner spike 1122 664 0505 outer 1122 664 0500. The chain catcher 1122-650-7700
hi from Italy great video and excellent chainsaws i ask fort the 462 and original or elaborate engine ?thanks
Thank you. However I do not understand what you're asking?
@@Andyshine77 The 462 is the M -Tronic version ?
@@giovanniarmani3100 Yes it's an M-Tronic model.
Hell yeah
Stihl is better. Lighter, easier to handle and more powerful. This is reality
The husky definitely looks cooler tho. That’s more important. That’s worth a half second. Plus their older and have a cooler history. I mean come on. The whole factory was powered by the river way back in 1860 something ish.
That is true but the Husqvarna is easier start, more reliable and will out live the Stihl between rebuilds. I have had many of both and like both for the different reasons listed but as I'm getting older, I find that I only ever grab my Husqvarna's due to the very low effort required to pull start them.
I like both saws. But The 462 has twice the lifespan of the the husky. I've killed 2 572's in the last 2 years but my older 462 is still screaming since 2018. And she gets used. Funny, I bought the first 572 anticipating the 462 would wear out😆. I love running huskies, very comfortable saws for me. But in my experience, Stihl just has the longevity. Those old huskies, man did they scream! Beat the pants off Stihl in speed back in the 80's and 90's. Think Stihl has them licked these days.
Not true - The XP only rival is the 500i
Somethings off with the Grind on the XP
How do the 462 and 572 compare vibration wise?
Both are extremely smooth, no real difference in my hands.
Which one do you think will last the longest?
That's hard to say. Some 572's had crank bearings letting go, but that seems to have been fixed.
The 462 has had some issues with the case cracking around the bar studs with longer bars 32"+. Also, excessive piston wear, up until 2021, designed changes to beef up the case, and a totally new piston and cylinder designed. Keep in mind those issues were on really high hour saws, and now, with the changes a non-issue.
IMHO, at this point, both saws seem to be very reliable and durable, pick the one that best fits your needs, and don't worry about it.
I know the earlier 5 series saws have issues, but I thought the 572 was pretty durable because of its bottom end, is that not the case? Is your mate having trouble with the 572?
if he’s getting better longevity out of the 462 why don’t they use them instead? It has more power and less weight than the 572 anyway
Amazing👍👍👍 🇮🇩🙏🙏🙏
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two different saws with two different capacities. not worth comparing
Smaller saw beat the larger Husqvarna. I take it you're a husky fan boy. 🤣
I compared them because they're in the same basic cc class and are often used in similar situations.
How long is the LIGHT bar on the 462?
28"
@@Andyshine77 t HF Thank you! I figured it out watching another video. That would be the exact setup I want with those exact looking larger dogs. The ones they provide are stupid. And you end up chewing up the front of the saw. How much were the STIHL dogs and chain catcher?
Like $50 if I remember correctly
@@Andyshine77 awesome! Thank you sir
Bom dia galera eu uso sthil não troco seu vídeo munto bom abraço
1. Solo 681
2. Dolmar 7900
3. Stihl 500i
4. Stihl 462
5. Husky 572xp
6. Echo 7310
I would say the 500i and 681 are equal in power, than the 7900 close behind, the rest are spot on. Thanks for stopping by.
Chain swap , test
Good idea!
Gli piace vincere facile col sthil
STIHL MS 462 CM
Lightweight powerhouse for sure.
Nice test, but the real test will be which one craps out first in a forestry environment. Luckily the 462 doesn't seem to be like the POS 661
Time will tell.
@@Andyshine77 Well its two years later, and i think the 462 wins the durability test. I have seen quite a few 572 bearing failures, what do you think?
Stih,stihl,stihl.....& Stihl.
STIHL good 👍
This projected come in india
Husqvarna 5,8hp
Stihl 6.0hp
Husqvarna eğer ki hizlı kesme saniyesini stihle karşı çözerse vay haline stihl in. Birde tabii ki fiyat farkı var .yarı yarıya
Aşırı derece pahalı stihller!!!.
Mislim da je lanac na 572 tup.
Take the rakers down I 100%%% bet you it will out cut that 462 with it being new its not broke in and when it's broak in watch out
The 462 had less time than the 572, the 572 was completely broken in. www.arboristsite.com/threads/new-70cc-class-saws-dyno-day.347213/
My 572 out cuts the 462 I hust don't really get why your video is showing it cutting slow ??
@Dustin isa Snyder Did you check out the link in my last post? The saws have been ran on a dyno the 462 makes more power end of story. There is a thing called confirmation bias, this is where scientific testing weeds out brand bias, perception is powerful thing and is very misleading.
@@dustinisasnyder5938 you are the only one. Every other test has 462 ahead.
Affila la catena della 572 poi la 461 può andare in letargo.
У штиля 4.2 кв а хуска 3.9кв
Хускварна лучше! Швеция лучше германии!!!
Стопудово , а разве в Германии есть леса ?😉
@@serganfisherman6006 🤣
L Husqvarna non taglia e più veloce della 462 lo provata io stesso
Need to bury the dogs to let the torque shine through
That always slows the saw dawn. I was modulating the pressure to keep the saw and its power band.
Штиль сила.
Говно хускварна лучше!
Была говорит сила, когда мать срать носила 😅.
Stihl 👑
Quote from Mastermind:
''I've got guys trading in Stihls for the 572XP.
Seriously.
It's the 70cc saw I recommend most often.'' And that's coming from a Stihl fanboy.
You might want to get back with Randy on that, he's seen QC problems and has stopped porting them because of that and some other issues. I still think it's a good saw, but Husqvarna has QC problems. I'll be getting a 592 the moment they come out.
@@Andyshine77 Wow, i know the 550/562 had QC problems but i thought the 572 was pretty solid.
@@llyodmilward4045 Randy said some have 2,000 bored feet on them and they're fine, but a few have had bearings that failed, plus some small QC issus, one had a filter on so tight he had to cut it off. I had to replace the oil pump on the saw in the video, it slowly stop pumping, all good now.
@@Andyshine77 Just read the thread, do you know if its just a bad batch lately? Because less than a year ago Randy was saying how the 572 was getting better feedback from his customers than the 462.
@@llyodmilward4045 I don't know, could very well be just a bad batch.
L husquarna neanche taglia sembra fatto a posta
Husky sounds better 😊
Husqarna besser 💪
Nein. Stihl ist viel besser.
Штиль -сила! Нелюблю хускварну!
Штиль говно хусварна лучше
Штиль достойный инструмент , но Хускварна надёжней у меня 365сп.
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