Ironic that a car commercial played before this video. If we treated cars anything like cigarettes, we'd ban or severely restrict advertising them for causing 42k deaths/year in America.
True, but with the suburbs we currently have, we have people who really want cars. I think we shouldn’t limit it until cities become dense enough in north America at least to where you don’t need a car
@@golemofiron7250 The conversation always seems to be some variation of "People live in the suburbs because people like the suburbs and they drive everywhere because they prefer driving." Lost in all of this argument is conversation about how so much of cities are mandated to be zoned R-1 single family, how minimum lot size is mandated, and mandatory parking minimums force developers to take up more space and sprawl outwards. It's not that more Americans prefer suburban sprawl to tighter, denser living. It's that the latter has been all but outlawed in many parts of the country through zoning restrictions and parking minimums.
The biggest issue in the US is the stigma around public transportation in general. City and state governments practically bankrupt themselves with massive road projects in the name of "solving" or "easing" traffic congestion when the Braess Paradox of Induced Demand has been known and documented for nearly a century, yet those projects don't receive nearly the amount of blowback or skepticism from the public that transit does precisely because of the notion that "only poor people will use transit". All of the economic benefits (not to mention traffic congestion relief by removing cars from roads) don't move the needle when that stigma is unaccounted for.
As Glaswegian the subway is great but the reason why I don’t need a car is the compressive train network as well as cycle and walking routes. I feel smaller cities can get big gains from the multi-modal systems.
Glasgow has a lot of urban and suburban rails. They're far from perfect but they really go almost everywhere and carry a lot of people, they even go to the much smaller and further away Prestwick Airport but of course they don't go to GLA because why would they. There are about 200 train station in greater Glasgow, more than Manchester or Birmingham, second only to London. I did wonder if the size of Glasgow's rail network ever made it feel less urgent for the city to invest in a slightly different but way costlier type of rail.
Glasgow does have a proposal called Clyde Metro, which is a combination of new metro (rapid transit) and tram lines. It unfortunately will not begin construction until like 2028 at the earliest
Great video and love the Glasgow Subway, but you've missed out the Liverpool Overhead Railway from your list of the first metro systems in the world. It opened in 1893.
I live in a city around the population of OKC (proper, not metro, my town's metro area is weird). We have a fully at-grade tram system and a halfway-separated "metro" system. It runs in tunnels through the city centre and at grade elsewhere, but unlike the tram the metro usually has dedicated lanes at least. I'm quite happy with what my city has. I know such halfway solutions are frowned upon, though I wonder if they could be a good fit for mid-sized cities.
@bahnspotterEU, yes, that's the best way to phrase it for any readers who know what a Stadtbahn is. I assume outside of nerd circles it's a relatively unknown word and in hindsight I wonder who but transit nerds would watch a video with this title. ^^
fun fact, there’s a fictional metro map for okc in the full circle bookstore! every time I see it, the urbanist in me dies bc it would be a dream to have it
The Glasgow subway gets a lot of attention for expansion which obscures the fact that Glasgow actually has a pretty amazing public transport system. What is actually holding back true mass transit in Glasgow is a lack of ticketing integration across the modes of transport, the infrastructure is actually all there and if some disused lines were re-opened with accessible entrances the city would be easily navigable if buses, subway, and trains all worked on one ticket.
I enjoyed this video for more reasons than I can get into here! Glasgow is a little more attractive than I remembered, but I still vastly prefer Edinburgh, which has nothing to do with the video! I can see what a challenge it is for a city to decide to construct any kind of mass transportation system, which is a shame because so many would benefit from it in lots of ways.. On a personal note, it was good to see Marigold and guess how many times the lovely Kaitie was going to get on the subway! Good job, Kyler!
The second circle idea seemed like a good one. It was proposed with a Glasgow Crossrail and Glasgow airport link. All rejected by the SNP government for the Edinburgh trams, delayed and vastly over budget. The electirfication of some of the older overgound trains was delayed due to budget. My Town will be closing our rail for the month of January for electrification. First proposed 20 years sgo
Here's a topic idea... induced demand. Yale Avenue between 81st and 91st is a great example. They widened that from 1 to 3 lanes on a side (with no public transit or bicycle facilities and an absolute joke of a sidewalk situation) and traffic is now worse than ever before. Or Memorial Drive at the Creek Turnpike. The diverging diamond's already failing from overload and backing up onto the turnpike again because Memorial Drive is over capacity, lacks transit and bicycle facilities and has a complete joke of a sidewalk situation.
Nice video. I was over in Glasgow last weekend and had my first ride on the shiny new Stadler trains. Hopefully when they become driverless the system won't close down at 6pm on a Sunday anymore!
Nice video, well presented 👍 If you're in need for some more Glasgow related non investment in public transport content, you might want to look into the non existent Glasgow Airport Rail Link 🤦
i'm just imagining now like integrating a subway stop inside penn square mall or quail springs, having both of those areas become similar to some of japans subway stations with tons of shops and restaurants. i'm sure it couldn't happen because they're privately owned properties.....but like can you imagine...
Chicago isn’t the second oldest, The Chicago 'L' dates back to 1892, making it one of the oldest elevated rail systems. However, the subway portion opened in 1943, far later than many older systems worldwide. So it can’t be the second-oldest subway system by any metric. The Chicago 'L' might have been mistakenly cited as the second-oldest overall rail transit system in the Americas, but Boston’s 1897 subway predates it underground
@ great video, we need to challenge motonormativity. I’m originally from Glasgow, which is still the largest city in Scotland, so it’s weird hearing it described as a small city, though it’s still larger than Nottingham where I live now.
How exactly is Oklahoma City worthy of having the tallest skyscraper in the country? I’d expect that a lot more out of Las Vegas. I’d also expect it more out of Phoenix than Oklahoma City, if the location of Sky Harbor Airport didn’t force any downtown height restrictions, which as of yet, nobody has built up to.
Looking forward to it! The Edmond - OKC - Norman commuter line is long overdue, and the airport light rail is a great idea, especially if we're looking to promote more tourism. The RTA BRT lines should also fit in nicely with the MAPS 4 ones currently in progress (the RTA seems to be shooting for a center-running alignment which will make their routes actual BRT), and the central hub for all of it being right next to the new Thunder arena just makes sense. It's going to be a long and arduous process to get all of these done, but it'll be well worth it in the end. Expect a video on this from us at some point in the future!
@@eryngo.urbanism " (the RTA seems to be shooting for a center-running alignment which will make their routes actual BRT)" Didn't know that! Certainly glad to hear it. Thanks for the reply!
I actually say Glasgow did expand its system look at the argyle line technology not a subway line but acts like one Glasgow is best compared to philly in how it's public transport works
Ironic that a car commercial played before this video. If we treated cars anything like cigarettes, we'd ban or severely restrict advertising them for causing 42k deaths/year in America.
True, but with the suburbs we currently have, we have people who really want cars. I think we shouldn’t limit it until cities become dense enough in north America at least to where you don’t need a car
@@golemofiron7250 The conversation always seems to be some variation of "People live in the suburbs because people like the suburbs and they drive everywhere because they prefer driving." Lost in all of this argument is conversation about how so much of cities are mandated to be zoned R-1 single family, how minimum lot size is mandated, and mandatory parking minimums force developers to take up more space and sprawl outwards.
It's not that more Americans prefer suburban sprawl to tighter, denser living. It's that the latter has been all but outlawed in many parts of the country through zoning restrictions and parking minimums.
The biggest issue in the US is the stigma around public transportation in general. City and state governments practically bankrupt themselves with massive road projects in the name of "solving" or "easing" traffic congestion when the Braess Paradox of Induced Demand has been known and documented for nearly a century, yet those projects don't receive nearly the amount of blowback or skepticism from the public that transit does precisely because of the notion that "only poor people will use transit".
All of the economic benefits (not to mention traffic congestion relief by removing cars from roads) don't move the needle when that stigma is unaccounted for.
As Glaswegian the subway is great but the reason why I don’t need a car is the compressive train network as well as cycle and walking routes. I feel smaller cities can get big gains from the multi-modal systems.
Glasgow has a lot of urban and suburban rails. They're far from perfect but they really go almost everywhere and carry a lot of people, they even go to the much smaller and further away Prestwick Airport but of course they don't go to GLA because why would they. There are about 200 train station in greater Glasgow, more than Manchester or Birmingham, second only to London. I did wonder if the size of Glasgow's rail network ever made it feel less urgent for the city to invest in a slightly different but way costlier type of rail.
Glasgow does have a proposal called Clyde Metro, which is a combination of new metro (rapid transit) and tram lines. It unfortunately will not begin construction until like 2028 at the earliest
Great video and love the Glasgow Subway, but you've missed out the Liverpool Overhead Railway from your list of the first metro systems in the world. It opened in 1893.
Whoops! Sorry about that
Love the Glasgow jump scare to start the video
I think most of us would agree expansion of the Subway would be practicacable
It wouldn‘t be, no matter how many “ca” you add to that word
I live in a city around the population of OKC (proper, not metro, my town's metro area is weird). We have a fully at-grade tram system and a halfway-separated "metro" system. It runs in tunnels through the city centre and at grade elsewhere, but unlike the tram the metro usually has dedicated lanes at least. I'm quite happy with what my city has. I know such halfway solutions are frowned upon, though I wonder if they could be a good fit for mid-sized cities.
So a tram and a light rail/Stadtbahn?
@bahnspotterEU, yes, that's the best way to phrase it for any readers who know what a Stadtbahn is. I assume outside of nerd circles it's a relatively unknown word and in hindsight I wonder who but transit nerds would watch a video with this title. ^^
They are a much better fit imo
fun fact, there’s a fictional metro map for okc in the full circle bookstore! every time I see it, the urbanist in me dies bc it would be a dream to have it
We love Full Circle
Gonna go cop that!
It’s up on the wall, not sure it’s for sale. Please don’t steal from lovely local bookstores 😆
Never forget Sioux City had an elevated railroad as well! 1891, one of the oldest elevated passenger railways on the planet!
The Glasgow subway gets a lot of attention for expansion which obscures the fact that Glasgow actually has a pretty amazing public transport system. What is actually holding back true mass transit in Glasgow is a lack of ticketing integration across the modes of transport, the infrastructure is actually all there and if some disused lines were re-opened with accessible entrances the city would be easily navigable if buses, subway, and trains all worked on one ticket.
I agree with you. Visiting my sister in London I had an oyster card - rail, undregound, buses
I enjoyed this video for more reasons than I can get into here! Glasgow is a little more attractive than I remembered, but I still vastly prefer Edinburgh, which has nothing to do with the video! I can see what a challenge it is for a city to decide to construct any kind of mass transportation system, which is a shame because so many would benefit from it in lots of ways.. On a personal note, it was good to see Marigold and guess how many times the lovely Kaitie was going to get on the subway! Good job, Kyler!
The second circle idea seemed like a good one. It was proposed with a Glasgow Crossrail and Glasgow airport link. All rejected by the SNP government for the Edinburgh trams, delayed and vastly over budget. The electirfication of some of the older overgound trains was delayed due to budget. My Town will be closing our rail for the month of January for electrification. First proposed 20 years sgo
Great video -- really enjoyed it!!
Here's a topic idea... induced demand. Yale Avenue between 81st and 91st is a great example. They widened that from 1 to 3 lanes on a side (with no public transit or bicycle facilities and an absolute joke of a sidewalk situation) and traffic is now worse than ever before. Or Memorial Drive at the Creek Turnpike. The diverging diamond's already failing from overload and backing up onto the turnpike again because Memorial Drive is over capacity, lacks transit and bicycle facilities and has a complete joke of a sidewalk situation.
"One more lane! One more lane will fix it! Just one more lane!"
What you haven’t touched on is Glasgow does have an expansive rail network.
Nice video. I was over in Glasgow last weekend and had my first ride on the shiny new Stadler trains. Hopefully when they become driverless the system won't close down at 6pm on a Sunday anymore!
We need the Roosevelt Blvd Subway
I've always loved how short the rolling stock is, never visited but I'm pretty sure I would get a headache from all the head-hitting lmao
30K riders a day is REAAAALLLY low tbh
A little disappointed you didn’t wear the hiviz for the Glasgow segment. ;-)
Nice video, well presented 👍 If you're in need for some more Glasgow related non investment in public transport content, you might want to look into the non existent Glasgow Airport Rail Link 🤦
i'm just imagining now like integrating a subway stop inside penn square mall or quail springs, having both of those areas become similar to some of japans subway stations with tons of shops and restaurants. i'm sure it couldn't happen because they're privately owned properties.....but like can you imagine...
Chicago isn’t the second oldest, The Chicago 'L' dates back to 1892, making it one of the oldest elevated rail systems. However, the subway portion opened in 1943, far later than many older systems worldwide. So it can’t be the second-oldest subway system by any metric. The Chicago 'L' might have been mistakenly cited as the second-oldest overall rail transit system in the Americas, but Boston’s 1897 subway predates it underground
Good catch. This is why we said it’s the second oldest grade separated metro system, not the second oldest subway.
@ great video, we need to challenge motonormativity. I’m originally from Glasgow, which is still the largest city in Scotland, so it’s weird hearing it described as a small city, though it’s still larger than Nottingham where I live now.
How exactly is Oklahoma City worthy of having the tallest skyscraper in the country? I’d expect that a lot more out of Las Vegas. I’d also expect it more out of Phoenix than Oklahoma City, if the location of Sky Harbor Airport didn’t force any downtown height restrictions, which as of yet, nobody has built up to.
Sometimes developers have ideas
OKC resident here, what are your thoughts on the RTA's vision for transportation in the metro area?
Looking forward to it! The Edmond - OKC - Norman commuter line is long overdue, and the airport light rail is a great idea, especially if we're looking to promote more tourism. The RTA BRT lines should also fit in nicely with the MAPS 4 ones currently in progress (the RTA seems to be shooting for a center-running alignment which will make their routes actual BRT), and the central hub for all of it being right next to the new Thunder arena just makes sense. It's going to be a long and arduous process to get all of these done, but it'll be well worth it in the end. Expect a video on this from us at some point in the future!
@@eryngo.urbanism " (the RTA seems to be shooting for a center-running alignment which will make their routes actual BRT)"
Didn't know that! Certainly glad to hear it. Thanks for the reply!
I actually say Glasgow did expand its system look at the argyle line technology not a subway line but acts like one Glasgow is best compared to philly in how it's public transport works
What’s the smallest US city that could justify a subway?
Based on nothing but vibes, I’m gonna go with Merced, CA
We will never have transit in america as long as politics is driven by money.
I stopped watching the news a couple weeks ago
probably the best thing to do atm