To some degree, I really believe the MAGA cult does NOT want to succeed. Because, if they did, how would they be able to view themselves as the persecuted underdog. How would they be able to blame immigrants and DEI, or whatever else Fox News brainwashes them into hating?
For job security most people want to work for the government. They've seen how the private ind's lay off and run through workers. All good suggestions for engineering careers and American education.
Meanwhile, the current administration has been arming and funding a country for the last three years that has OPENLY had Americans on a published kill-list the whole time, but let's talk about Trump instead of those traitors/domestic enemies. Do you have any idea how stupid that is? That is such clown world sh*t to continuously go after some guy who's not even in office instead of going after the people currently doing the above. That is wildly out of control TDS you have.
This isn't true most tech workers make over 150K a lot of them on H1B Visas. What these companies really want people who will work night and day not complain but most of these tech companies tech is 10 years old actually jobs are really easy someone can go to boot camp 5 months and some fake experience get in with history degree and be called ENGINEER. Part that sucks is for Americans who do hard work get STEM degree and do all math but have to deal with All of India and China and rest of world who want these high paying jobs. For some reason American companies only want to hire people from other countries they have this idea in there head those people will work harder than Americans based on nothing .
@@peterharris9022 depends on who "they" is. Corporations would love free education if it meant a good labor pool they didn't have to pay for. Schools don't want to give out free education if it takes the seat of a paying student. Some schools get kick backs for bringing in foreign students and giving them a free education - that's government programs making it more advantageous for them to give a free education to a non-American over an American. This was the case at the university I worked IT at - a lot of the students weren't from here yet were going to school for peanuts on the dollar.
As an American with the qualifications to apply for a job at xAI, I would never consider taking a job from Elon. There is talent here, but I can’t work in such toxic environment.
If its toxic that gives you the freedom to do a shitty job and not care..ie zero stress. I learned that trick as a developer in the 00s when the job market was great. Worse company..better time in the office. Good company..everybody worked too hard!! :)
@@stevenbaumann8692 You people aren't thinking. You work at Tesla. You quit or get fired. Then you start a channel "Tesla Insider" and cash in the rest of your lives. Gen-x should not have to tell you that is how its done today.
He has a REALLY LOUSY record of employee relationships. But, he would, if he actually has ASD but has never gone through any theraputic processes to help him and the wealth he has doesn't require him to, ye see....as for his diagnosis, which, NONE of us KNOW for sure....what are we supposed to do? ask to see his medical report with his doctors? STOP TRYING TO INFRINGE ON PEOPLES PRIVACY RIGHT!! Not to mention some people say he's been lieing about it, (HOW would THEY know, btw? Surely they'd have PROVEN that accusation by now, eh?), and was actually diagnosed a narcissistic psychopath. There's NO PROOF OF THAT, btw, so don't bother trying to spread THAT one around. People with ASD process verbal communication very differently under lee hood, it can lead to confusion and frustration and if he's unaware of any sensory issues that might overload him on a stressed out day would absolutely trigger meltdowns (and they are VERY different than a neurotypical 'tantrum'.....allow me please: a 'tantrum' is what a person has when they don't get what they want.....a 'meltdown' is more like an epileptic seizure....a sudden storm of electricty in the brain and similar to an epileptic seizure, and has a real 'wipeout' on them which is called 'autistic burnout', which results from, in particular, people with mild Autism NOT being able to honor their own conditions needs because 'normal' people are so god damned demanding and perfectionistic and people with autism or constantly having to commpensate and push...ok, so now, no, I'm NOT going to spend any further energy here educating you, valdbot, so go look up ASD from the Mayo clinic yourself. Or Johns Hopkins. Or Oxford. Or UCLA or the university of Moscow or Mexico city or Tokyo or Hong Kong or the Phillipines or Germany if indeed you are still allowed unrestricted internet access but we beyond our walls of repression know it cuts you off from *recent scientific data* on MANY thnings....FFS it's 2024 and you have a VAST AMOUNT OF HUMAN SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH FREELY OFFERED TO YOU (beyond your internet bill) AND WHAT DO YOU DO WITH IT? YOU sit around WHINGING about what some spoiled inheritance aspie thinks and wants. HE LIVES RENT FREE IN YOUR HEADS and it's sad. You shouldn't allow anyone elses presence, visible or not, to colonize your own mind like has. He doens't have to go to Mars. He only needs to speak online and wait for the shrill."REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! STAHP TAWKEEN NAZI!" to know he does and YOU give it to him, you dummies. "Voters get the governance they deserve." is an idea that seems to entirely slip your conscious notice.
Walter Isaacson, Musk's biographer, says Musk burns out almost everyone who has worked for him, and once they leave his companies, they don't really want to go back to work for him. Musk needs endless supplies of talented workers who have not worked for him before, which is why he needs to recruit foreign workers.
this 100%. musk *loves* china's 996 schedule and absolutely hates labor laws. he also hates employees who have a choice, hence why he's one of the biggest H1B employers in all of SV : those workers are stuck with him and can't quit (lest they leave the country) whenever he comes up with some new silly 'ultra mega hardcore dont sleep dont eat pee in a bottle sleep at your desk' plan.
Knowing engineers in the workforce; THEY tell me that whenever Tech companies say there isn't enough skilled labor, WHAT THEY MEAN IS MBA OR BETTER WILLING TO WORK FOR CRAP WAGES!!!
"Shortage of EXCELLENT engineering talent" ... keyword "EXCELLENT" ... as a US Engineering manager, I can tell you, being an excellent engineer is MUCH more than a college degree. It's just like going to art school doesn't turn one into a successful artist... or learning how to play basketball doesn't make ya an NBA star. In my 40yrs of Engineering, I can spot engineers in minutes who have TALENT, they are inventive, creative and think outside the box ... they had those natural skills BEFORE going to college. In fact, some of the VERY BEST engineers I have hired, didn't even have a bachelors degree.
There is a shortage of engineers, There is a shortage of youngster entering the field because they don't want to work for a living, Musk not being an engineer leeches off others.
@@bigcooter7090there isn’t a shortage of excellent engineers, their wages are too low so there’s too much demand. Saying there’s a labor shortage of any skill is akin to me complaining about a shortage of yachts because they cost more than $500. Edit: it’s also funny when second rate employers expect excellent staff when many don’t even have the courtesy of posting their wage bands to stop wasting the time of applicants. If you want FAANG equivalent employees, you better pay FAANG wages and provide FAANG benefits.
@@HedgehogsAreBetterThanYou I hire engineers... most I interview are NOT Excellent. A company could offer a high salary to attract Excellent Engineers .. but doing that doesn't create MORE Excellent engineers. Most engineers have a degree, but NO Natural aptitude, most just aren't innovative ... they won't be racking up valuable patents & solutions. This is what Musk is talking about... while I do think Musk is a dickhead, he isn't wrong about this topic.
With all the emphasis on deportation, why is this illegal immigrant’s status not get talked about? F how much money this SOB has. Illegal is illegal. This f’er is getting fatter off of contracts with the US government citizens money.
Old ways of thinking? The new way is having billionaire owned media telling people how to suspend their thinking and slavishly serve billionaires, to their obvious detriment! 😮
Yep and they want them in these training programs without AA or DEI considerations. Just accept them regardless of qualifications because they are somehow automatically more deserving of the opportunity.
@@MultiKatieBee you won't be saying that within 3 years. We are at a time that the golden age is beginning. And are all thoughts in a way of thinking will pass away, to challenge us to think for ourselves instead of having the media and other things for you. Trust me next year you will definitely learn a lot. That you haven't learned anything in your lifetime.
Try feeding kids, educating them, and giving them sustainable jobs. The billionaire class never offers up their wealth but begs for more welfare for themselves on our labor, data, economics, and expertise.
lol elon literally fires engineers the minute there's a quarterly dip in revenue. also we all know what "super motivated" means in this context - it's shorthand for working twice the hours for no additional compensation while mr. micromanaging CEO sweaty twitter fingers hovers around the office cosplaying as a coder (which, anyone who's ever seen elon work a computer knows his technical skills are a meme)
Deal with the misogyny. I did EE. My daughter did ME. The misogyny was so vile, I left after two years my daughter lasted 5 years. We ended up far from engineering. Despite being 30 yrs after me, the misogyny had not lessened. Her department had 8 former engineers, all female. All left engineering due to misogyny.
People need to hear this more. I'm from a country less sexist than America (Philippines) and the amount of DISRESPECT male American co-workers have for female coworkers are absurd, and they're not even good at their job! You won't hear such insults from your male Filipino co-workers...
The big picture is that Elon sees the world HIS oyster - a gamer, looking at people as being disposable playing pieces, who feels he has garnered most of the game’s resources, & paid well to fix the rules to suit him, & now, he wants to go to the next ‘level’ & do it again. NOW. The earth getting fixed & its peoples’ wellbeing being respected? - too boring. The creatures of the earth don’t matter. WHEN things get broken in the process of his science fiction fantasy game, he says he will pay fines - but that money won’t fix things in our complex global ecosystem. He is a selfish, callous, brat, & he needs STOPPING😡
I've been in tech for almost 4 decades so naturally, I've watched this issue closely during my career. US corporations used H-1B visas for foreign tech workers not to replace US workers or "take their jobs", but to keep salary levels depressed. They saw salaries getting too high so they ran to the government crying, "Tech worker shortage! Tech worker shortage!". It was a lie, there was only a shortage of workers who were willing to work for a modest salary.... there was no shortage if companies were willing to pay generous wages. But the government always does what companies want, not what benefits workers, so they created the H-1B visa program which brought tens of thousands of tech workers into the US willing to work for low salaries. Had they not done this, many Americans like me would probably have about a million dollars more in our bank accounts right now. But no, no one "took my job". What's ironic is that the lie of a tech worker shortage became a self-fulfilling prophecy. College students are not dumb, and when comp-sci majors saw that tech salaries were no longer as high as they once were (due to H-1Bs as I stated), many of them switched to other majors. So in the end there really was a slight shortage of US-born tech workers, just as US corporations had falsely claimed, prematurely. If politicians really believed in the free market as they always claim they do, they would have allowed tech salaries to temporarily climb up to high levels, then thousands of college kids would have switched over into comp-sci majors and the "shortage" would have worked itself out naturally, with greater competition for jobs bringing salaries down to reasonable levels. But unfortunately politicians only allow the market to operate freely when it puts money in their pockets (or money in the pockets of their donors).
Thank you for this analysis, but please be more specific. They saw that the wages of the lower 90% were getting too high. They’ve been fine with spiking the incomes of the upper 10% to be 100x+ the compensation they pay to the rest.
Poor people in the Us cant afford university, They don't get a chance to even try because their families don t have the money. In Canada you don't go into debt for the rest of your life to get an education.
he did enter the country legally by meeting the eligibility requirements and following the naturalization process outlined by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). if you think republicans want to deport all foreigners than you need to do some research.
@@lewie110 It is you who needs to do more research. There's more to entering the country legally on a student visa. To convert that to a work visa there are procedures to follow - not the least of which is *not* working (in any way) while waiting. Then failing to admit on the permanent residency visa process that you *did* work illegally.
Thank you, Chris, for sharing your background about being a refugee as a result of the Vietnam War. My family escaped from Vietnam and settled in Canada.
Funny how literally the richest man in the world is talking about he can not hire enough talents. The best soccer players alltogether cost only 1.4 billion USD and I guess even the 10 world best engineers are much cheaper. He is just an cheapskate and blaming others for his greed.
He cannot rehire the hundreds of people he already laid off, that's the real reason. People who worked for him would never want to return. His only source of workers has to be foreign import because Americans don't want to work for him. Not that Americans don't want to work, they do. Americans just don't want to work for Musk specifically.
I've lived in SF since 99. IT'S THE LOW PAY AND SHIT HOURS. PERIOD. Oh, also the lack of job security from employers. They will fire everyone to make their target quarterly, then hire everyone back 30 days later with a pay cut. I worked in Video games and my BF worked for Apple and a few AI startups. We rarely got to see one another most months due to project crunch times. It's not a great life.
Sounds like the perfect American Dream. Unfortunately our „high tech“ company‘s CEO compares our profit margin to the one of US competitors. While also asking about our work-life-balance. I can tell you, we will never get US margins, because we work to live.
I remember when this trend started. In was in the early 80's. Started with Texas Instruments. The technology was developing so fast that they realized that they had to be flexible and only bring in what they needed for the contracts. Otherwise everyone would cap out on the pay too soon.
Bro! If you are living in SF, you should know that these H1B workers actually make a lot of money. They are NOT cheap labor. A company hiring foreign workers is MANDATED by law to pay higher wages to H1B worker than the median pay for a particular job class. There is absolutely a shortage of qualified engineers. Not just in IT, but also in electrical and mechanical and host of other STEM fields. Forget engineers, we can't even find enough electrical linemen, technicians and other roles. I am a professional engineer, and we need engineers, and we barely find any US citizens applying. The issues with US is the lack of people in college due to high cost. What is needed is public investment in higher education. College enrolment has fallen down year on year. What do you expect?
@rajatsingh2956 oh I do know that. I also know their immigration status is tied to their jobs. I kinda skipped that part of the video. I deplore that program for several reasons. None of them racist in nature. It's just a horrible program that takes advantage of people and I hate that.
@ Just an idea: The country gives education to its children for free and the then in good jobs people pay taxes to educate the next generation. Companies pay taxes too, because they use all that „infrastructure“. Cutting taxes and education, just to complain about „stupid locals“ should make it easy to judge the complainers.
I worked in Silicon Valley medical manufacturing for over 35 years as a senior precision mechanical inspector - I retired in 2017 and they STILL have not been able to find a qualified replacement. There is a woeful shortage of skilled manual labor because we stopped instructing kids how to work with their hands. We stuck all the kids behind computers at school. No one is being taught mechanic's, woodshop, and other tasks that are NOT computer based. Folks blaming either side of the political spectrum have fallen for the grift of the 1% - in order to place blame, we need to start looking at the 1% and not at each other.
16:54 Indeed, Steve Job's biological father was from Syria. He didn't raise him though. His biological mother was a German-Swiss Catholic, also not exactly traditional American. He was brought up by his adopted parents.
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! ~ The Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation, Inc.
@@cyberninjazero5659 Doesn't matter. It's the basic premise of what America IS! The experiment to welcome anyone fleeing from tyranny to live in country that protects their rights and freedom.
If there is a shortage in talent, most likely Musk's companies are no longer a first choice for the best talent but likely their last. He's impacting his companies very negatively in all areas due to his political antics and interference.
When I went for my master's degree, I was the token American. All other grad students were from China or India. When I went for my PhD, I was one of 20 Americans. When I applied at Cadence, I did not get the job because they already picked a foreign engineer.
Chris you are absolutely right as a naturalized citizen I am shocked what a taboo class is. The rest of the world is keenly aware of class difference and it's fundamental to a lot of it's culture. Here in the USA race and color is central while the rich skate.
To get a work visa for a foreign engineer, you need a Planket petition to get approved. This asserts that the needed skill is not available in the American engineering pool and is not possible to be built up in time for the task
At the tail end of the boomers I've known guys that have had to go back to school 4 times to change their skills so they could work. They would work their way up to better pay then be let go while their jobs were outsourced.
If you consider what happened to the original native Americans when they didn't put a stop to illegal immigration, the concerns of the descendants of those illegal immigrants, who are now running scared, are understandable.
Yeah, my ex had a computer engineering degree, but could not get a job in his field because they advertise for unicorns with all of the latest knowledge, specific degrees/certifications, and 5 years of experience in brand new technologies. State Farm didn’t employ any Americans, at that time, because they could recruit from abroad, people who had almost zero training or knowledge but very creative fictional degrees and a willingness to work at low salaries. They brought whole families with them, who’ve obtained residency and work permits under false pretenses. Big corporations have done more to undermine ambitious college students, and our high tech labor market, than anyone walking a thousand miles to work menial labor in the USA. Those foreign recruits are only allowed to work for the company that imported them, for as long as they remain non-citizens, so they are stuck unless they become naturalized citizens in record time, which isn’t as easy as people think it is. It’s not uncommon for those who don’t measure up, to be fired and NOT be deported because their spouse has acquired a work visa for another company and the family remains here without ever taking steps to become citizens. In essence, Musk, and all the other fat cats, don’t want to pay reasonable wages to Americans AT ALL. It isn’t a shortage of intelligence or skills, it is a deliberate devaluation of the people who already have them, in favor of trainable foreigners who aren’t aware that they’re being used in nefarious ways.
life long engineer and retired. Only one in ten people going to engineering school will succeed finish school, obtain an engineering license and work in their field all the way to retirement
23:54 A few years back, I worked with an engineer who had fled South Africa. He shared his story with me: “South Africa was incredibly violent and unstable. I seized the only chance I had to escape by moving to the UK, where I spent a year working as an unskilled laborer in a freezer fish warehouse.” Although he was trained as an artist, there were no opportunities in his field, forcing him to take on one of the toughest jobs imaginable. He endured freezing temperatures of minus 23°C, tirelessly pushing crates of frozen fish. By the end of that year, his clothes smelled so strongly of fish that he even had to throw away his watch. Sadly, since his departure, South Africa has only continued to deteriorate. He had an option to move to the UK because he had British heritage, his parents were descendants of Englishmen, and there was a program of repatriation from the former colonies as long as you could prove your heritage.
while working for a large tech company i think what people fail to add ids that there can be a shortage of tech employees who will work for a given salary. that’s the key. supposedly hiring out of country for projects that can’t meet human resources they actually have revolving paperwork to constantly sponsor new employees because they always want them. i talked to some and they are afraid to to ask for raises because losing corporate sponsorship would be a mess and they don’t want to make waves until they get their green cards which could take a while. and im sure management knows this.
I work with a guy who has a CS degree and he's making 60K as a maintenance man. There are talented folks out there, but they've been denied these jobs.
@ericnelson9100 I knew 2 working at target. I'm a programmer funnily enough, no cs degree. The problem is, to get a good gig you have to be good at the interview and not give up..... ever. Took me 3 years of interviews as almost as side job to get my current gig.
Comments like this always sound so ridiculous…so out of touch with reality. Like it’s so simple…CS degree but no job was given to me. 😭 A degree and US birth certificate does is not a guaranteed job. Unless…unless you actually count someone who wishes and complains that it should be that easy. You need to also have get some internships or experience at the bottom level, then to learn or pay to have your resume in the correct format and network for difficult entry jobs. And actually need soft skills to land interviews and promotions . On top of testing well in interviews. Okay so go edit your comment and add all these details so it makes more sense.
You can't get a tech job in America. As someone born here that started out hacking a VIC-20, yeah, I never got a single tech job except as workstudy in college. The reality is you have to give up your life, become a carpet bagger, and then jump through some insane google style dysutopian interview... only to find out the job didn't actually exist.
Our school financing system is based on taxing local property values. Which guarantees that rich neighborhoods will always have more $ per student than poor neighborhoods. The students from rich schools will easily get jobs in law and banking. The ones from poor schools won't get into engineering school. I don't understand why anyone is surprised by the results.
What must be pointed out and that these CEO's seem to ignore is the incredible amount of "posted" jobs that actually aren't. They do not intend to hire. This was going on a decade ago, and I had to start a business because most of the jobs I wsa applying for were NOT hiring. The problem has only gotten worst.
I've recently retired, but the issues are more complex than what a lot of people are carping about. For one, you are not going to find an illegal immigrant taking a highly skilled tech job from anybody due to the high visibility and excessive proof required for these jobs. Also, I've seen that a lot of HR departments don't screen talent as well to get candidates to the first interview because the job requirements are ridiculous and not well thought out. Also, it looked like much of the positions are for candidates with 5+ years of experience, where HR is screening out candidates that have less experience. Also, the very best engineers are the ones that have been mentored properly and trained by experienced and motivated seniors, who instill a sense of wonder, initiative and helps the new engineers with gaining the requisite experience to advance and to develop new ideas that advance technological innovation. Most of the people who complain about the lack of native American talent or about illegal immigrants taking these jobs are people who are not engineer, or work with, mentor and teach younger engineers.
I was in IT 30 years and never met one conservative except in the shipping departments. I guess it might exist tody but we were always so left of center and rebellious.
We need to change the cultural attitude about education. Parents are afraid their children will be smarter than they are resulting in a loss of control over them. Currently, parents and corporations want control more than better education.
Something you hear only in deeply religious nutty conservative America. Everywhere else in the first world parents are happy to see their kids surpass them.
Say whuuuut? That idea seems to have been dredged up from the 1920s. Every parent I ever met was so proud of their super smart well educated kid that was gonna have a great life make money, have kids, take care of their parents when they retire. If things have receeded that far backwards in the last 15 years... dayum. That's really sad and pathetic.
My parents and grandparents where less and much less educated than me. None of them went to highschool. Now at the end of my life I learned that I was one of two children to immediately go to highschool (others used longer paths, as we have multiple ways to enter universities) from my village. The other was the son of the mayor. I have to thank my parents to get this done. Most parents here in Germany are proud of their kids know more, have better jobs, …
@@punkagrrlzero I am not saying that some parents are not proud of their kids, but in the u.s., the drive to abolish national standards for “local” control, school vouchers that are mostly going to unaccredited charter schools or religious schools, book bans, bans on minority histories, etc. as well as the fact that most material is printed in langugae that is no higher than grade 6. How do we expect kids to compete with countries where education is valued, expansive and universities are free? We can’t.
@@punkagrrlzeroI’m sure there are proud parents who take their children to church and whose children believe unscientific things based on illogical arguments.
From a shareholder point of view. H1B visa workers are the best. You hold their entire future in their hands and will grovel for everything to stay here.
I worked full time while going to school full time, earning my MBA. I had the advantage of living in a state with an excellent network of universities.
This was my comment: *AM3RIC4NS ARE BADLY EDUCATED* your schooling system is funded through property tax, so it depends way more on how wealthy your area is than how clever you are - then your universities are insanity price levels, this is why you rely on stealing talented people from other countries The average IQ in the US just dropped to 97.4. In North Korea its 98.8. In China its 105 and Taiwan its 107. If you dont INVEST in your people you get overtaken by countries that do...!!!
What all those people really want is the government taking charge of the education infrastructure and make the means to acquire engineering skills readily available to the greater number without a lifetime burden of student debt. But that would be "socialism", so these people will keep voting against their own interests and make up fantasies about tech companies doing the government's job...
The whole H1B visa issue, which is how most foreign tech workers get into the US, is very complex and frankly heavily abused by Tech companies. Folks come in on those visas and aren't free to look for other jobs and must accept the pay and conditions. If they are that valuable give them a green card and let them move around. Most companies don't want this to occur - they want tech slaves.
American workers elected a man because he said "he alone" could lower the price of eggs, maybe high-tech jobs would be out of the reach of these people!
0:45 I work for a large construction equipment manufacturer. We started outsourcing jobs years ago, what’s new is now we’re outsourcing endless positions that would’ve typically gone to Americans in the past like analyst, product manager, commodity manager, etc.
The amount of tech jobs needed is inflated because companies base their stock valuation on how many employees they have. They hire people to manage one button on a website. It’s ridiculous.
I don’t know why people think construction is a lowly job that used to be a desired well paid job you had to apprentice become a journeyman, a master carpenter, and then they started hiring lower wage workers, and then nobody can afford to do construction anymore the wages drop alot
This issue is probably the reason why President Musk and Vice President Trump want to get rid of the department of education. Get rid of the department of education, education standards fall dramatically and then they will say "look, we are to stupid in this country to work".
Elon loves H1B workers because he knows they will put up with anything he forces upon them, since their status depends on his job. Working in tech in SF I’ve seen these folks tolerate the toxic grindset far better than most U.S. born people will today, because their lives and livelihoods depend on it.
Elon doesn’t not comprehend empathy or compassion or faithfulness. It’s Work harder so I can get wealthier and toss you when there is a downturn or I decide so but remember it’s not personal cause I don’t feel your pain and my rent is paid. I mean I own the building and your rent is due.
I don’t know if these people commenting truly understand how hard a STEM major is. We don’t have enough students in programs like that because the bar is so high to succeed. As you said, Chris, lots of students go into business.
Maybe the best plan than is to reduce pre-university education even more, isn’t it?!! There is a YT from an IS engineer working/living in Germany and he commented about the homework of his 5-grade son: „I didn’t see such questions until highschool back in the US“. School can prepare you for a potential life as an engineer, or for a life as a consumer. Guess which one is a native English speaker?!!
What annoys me the most about this “job market” is how they’ve created it into a market. The same applies to the “dating market” as both terms dehumanize people regardless of race, ethnicity, or gender into being nothing less than numbers or data that decide their value. Secondly, Russia probably has the most job opportunities for Europeans, specifically due to its Arctic mega project and similar culture. Perhaps you have some insight into how, regardless of where you work in the world right now, if you have the choice to decide, you are most likely going to be safe. Americans have that privilege and don’t use it, and I think they need to realize that they are in a corporate-run country. Solution: Leave and utilize the dollar's advantages over other currencies while you can.
I can't speak to others on TH-cam. But I can assure you my book is nothing like others because my story and experience is once in a lifetime. The first chapter is free and you can see what I mean :)
Musks idea of talent is on full display in the DOGE posting. He wants people who will make work their life for peanuts. His idea of"talent" is not the mainstream definition.
When managing a large student employee program, I had to vet the American students because most of them didn't want to think about their job, how to get it done, most wanted explicit instructions and extensive personal attention. Foreign born would hit the ground running. So yes, cheaper from a productivity point of view. With a few American exceptions, mostly those with poor parents.
This is the story that happened in Silicon Valley when they started bringing in H1B engineers from India. The Indian company brought their brightest engineers from IIT (top university) to be interviewed by human resource department in one of the biggest tech companies and they made very good impression with HR. One of the HR managers said that Indian engineers were very smart, smarter than the U.S. engineers, and that was the start of massive number of H1B engineers entering the U.S. and massive layoff of U.S. engineers repeatedly to get cheaper labor. This was planned by the venture capitals and CEOs of tech companies. I know this sounds racist but that was what happpened.
Additionally, only a few of H1B engineers were at the caliber of what the U.S. engineers from good universities. Most of them were mediocre with no experience but their resumes were souped up with matching key words to fit the job description to get hired. Basically, the Indian recruiting companies hired these engineers and made a lot of money out of their salaries. Most of the U.S. engineers don't like to lie on their resumes so they are less likely to get hired.
bosses we need more workers. Nobby wnats to work anymore. same bosses make it impossible to get a job by demanding a 1000 different degrees. also the same bosses sack all our workers.
And their best employees, and hardest to replace, that don't get booted out the door at the first sign of profit drop? They are then expected to cover the work of everyone that did get fired, and get literally worked until they burnout and need to quit because of the toll on their health!!
Two points on the hard jobs people ask if Americans would do it. 1) The illegal immigrants who do those jobs are actually highly skilled. 2) The point of hiring illegal immigrants is to get labor without any workplace protections and get as close to operating the business with slave labor as possible. The reason why citizens tend not to do that work is that they demand more pay and not to be mistreated. Bonus: due to demographic changes in Mexico the seasonal Mexican labor supply is going to dry up and we will have to consider *gasp* not exploiting farm labor anymore!
I know a lot of engineers that wouldn't work for a Musk company because of the sweatshop conditions and obvious no work/life balance. His reputation is not good in my circles
What it really is is that H1B employees are tied to their employers and give the employer huge leverage over those people. They are easier to hire and pay less. There's a whole shadow setup of H1B job listings where they never allow americans to apply. It's easy to see this happen, h1b salaries are public record by law, which does make it easier to see what these people are getting paid, and how it's under other people. There's plenty of smart Americans to take the jobs.
Enough with the misinformation. H1B workers are NOT tied to their companies. They can leave whenever they want, and often do. The VISA is given by the US Govt, the company only sponsors it. H1B workers are also paid higher than median wage for same job, because it is mandated by law to prevent hiring for cheap labor.
i like when the complaint about the 'merican education isn't that conservatives don't want it funded, but cat litter and hygiene products extra points when they don't seem to have a clue about the reason schools might have the cat litter on site :/
Our janitor kept it to handle snow/ice. They also kept sawdust for vomit. I suspect conservatives have turned that into a story about kids wanting to be hamsters. 😅
Here's why they are fighting against education. If there's competition for jobs then they will have to pay more for talent. If jobs are hard to come by people will accept less money. If there's this shortage and they need foreign labor then why are they cutting wages? Traditionally when there's a labor shortage wages go up. Lately the opposite happens and when there's a shortage businesses insist they have to cut wages. Their solution to every problem is to cut wages. Here's a thought, cut corporate tax deductions.
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. “Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
Chris, I recently found your channel. I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your warm personality and highly intelligent take on things, and thanks for sharing that you were a refugee. Great topic to highlight the deep crevasses opening up under pressure between Trump, MAGA and Musk. One to watch!
There’s a STEM expert shortage like there’s a teacher shortage. There isn’t one. I am both, there are thousands of us who can’t or won’t work under the inhumane conditions expected.
I went into Science Education to try to understand and address this issue, only to learn that it would be almost impossible to be ALLOWED to teach science in the underserved schools where I student taught. I learned that our education system is intentionally failing, wonder who has been invested in underfunding schools while expecting more from them. Real mystery.
American-born SWE here. I wouldn't work for elon's companies because it's basically known in the industry that he will work you for more hours and less pay than industry standard -- yet here he is complaining about how he can't find enough people with the "drive" to fuel the economy.
@@realchris Job market is tight in my experience. I have friends that have been looking for jobs for like 6 months now. I'll be finishing a masters in AI sometime this year and I might not even use it to job hop due to the stress of having to deal with the current application process.
Maybe tech should come to terms with the fact that they are nothing special. Learn to live with normal, human, employees. Like a mature, pretty boring industry.
I've worked as a union construction laborer for 34 years. I worked many non-union construction jobs before that. From my personal experience immigrant labor has kept wages down, I've personally had undocumented immigrants work for me and they are no more skilled. They will readily break the law and do unsafe work because they don't know any better. Communication difficulties can be a big hurdle too. Roofing wages, concrete and many other low skilled crafts have had stagnant wages for 30 years in some instances. This is why American youth find many of these jobs unattractive. The nursing home industry is the same thing. I've found as a rule second generation immigrants tend to be conservative and despite the fact liberals seem to be more pro-immigration, though I'm not. Hispanic immigrants are ofen very conservative especially when it comes to traditional family structure (The man is the boss and the woman is a slave.) and religious idealism. My summation always comes down to except for third world labor, Amerikkka is a shareholder paradise. Politicians on both sides of the isle are bought and paid for.
American Youth actually currently seem to be finding those jobs fairly attractive because wages shot up, in turn because immigration to take those jobs suddenly dried up while demand for apartments and condos in particular has exploded. The pay is, at least in some regions, comparable to starting off at Goldman Sachs, and unlike Goldman Sachs, construction firms are actually hiring right now. It seems that this may partially explain the US housing crisis, because firms have yet to fully adapt to the new reality of worker shortages in sectors that were traditionally seen as less lower skilled, at least in recent times.
@unconventionalideas5683 The trades is still a good prospect, but I'd be leary of future pensions. I have a feeling we're heading for a time of some union busting.
I don’t know why people think construction is a lowly job that used to be a desired well paid job you had to apprentice become a journeyman, a master carpenter, and then they started hiring lower wage workers, and then nobody can afford to do construction anymore the wages drop a lot
@SocietalDefibrilation The very few refugees who become extremists are not representative of the larger population. My grandfather was a refugee, displaced by German Nazis, and my great-grandparents were the equivalent to refugees before the definition existed, but displaced and subjugated by the British. So I'm speaking from personal experience. The extremists you describe would not have been radicalised without the widespread colonialism and neocolonialism practiced by the West. Neither would have they become refugees in the first place. Germany and other Western countries also have plenty of native violent extremists, but without neocolonial subjugation as a causative factor, instead being radicalised by neocolonial propaganda. If you are a sucker to becoming indoctrinated by the neocolonial propaganda that manufactures consent for Western imperialism, warmongering, and the isolationism that takes our attention away from the real enemies, the oligarchs, and turns it instead on demonised out-groups, then of course you will automatically associate refugees with extremism.
@@mostbased How do Jordananian and Egyptyptians often treat and judge their refugees? Out-group resentment both warps the opinion of refugees and makes refugees, who have no choice in their situation, resent those who insist on dehumanising them. Unless you are a person easily hoodwinked in by out-group hostility and in-group favouritism, these things are really not hard to figure out. When Egyptians have to seek refugee status in other countries, how do you think Egyptians would like these people to be treated by their host countries? Hypocrisy is not a virtue nor is it a result of logic.
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To some degree, I really believe the MAGA cult does NOT want to succeed. Because, if they did, how would they be able to view themselves as the persecuted underdog. How would they be able to blame immigrants and DEI, or whatever else Fox News brainwashes them into hating?
11:06 - That'a a blatant straw man.
For job security most people want to work for the government. They've seen how the private ind's lay off and run through workers.
All good suggestions for engineering careers and American education.
Meanwhile, the current administration has been arming and funding a country for the last three years that has OPENLY had Americans on a published kill-list the whole time, but let's talk about Trump instead of those traitors/domestic enemies.
Do you have any idea how stupid that is?
That is such clown world sh*t to continuously go after some guy who's not even in office instead of going after the people currently doing the above.
That is wildly out of control TDS you have.
Make no mistake, they don't give a fvck where you're from, they just want the cheapest labor possible, including engineers
And also don't they not want people to get free education?
And also don't they hate free education?
This isn't true most tech workers make over 150K a lot of them on H1B Visas. What these companies really want people who will work night and day not complain but most of these tech companies tech is 10 years old actually jobs are really easy someone can go to boot camp 5 months and some fake experience get in with history degree and be called ENGINEER. Part that sucks is for Americans who do hard work get STEM degree and do all math but have to deal with All of India and China and rest of world who want these high paying jobs. For some reason American companies only want to hire people from other countries they have this idea in there head those people will work harder than Americans based on nothing .
Tusk is a weird animal , trying to be loved while standing on people , in psychology he's considered a severe mental sickness 😢
@@peterharris9022 depends on who "they" is.
Corporations would love free education if it meant a good labor pool they didn't have to pay for.
Schools don't want to give out free education if it takes the seat of a paying student.
Some schools get kick backs for bringing in foreign students and giving them a free education - that's government programs making it more advantageous for them to give a free education to a non-American over an American. This was the case at the university I worked IT at - a lot of the students weren't from here yet were going to school for peanuts on the dollar.
As an American with the qualifications to apply for a job at xAI, I would never consider taking a job from Elon. There is talent here, but I can’t work in such toxic environment.
If its toxic that gives you the freedom to do a shitty job and not care..ie zero stress. I learned that trick as a developer in the 00s when the job market was great. Worse company..better time in the office. Good company..everybody worked too hard!! :)
Exactlly. Why take a job where you have no input, is abusive, and demands all your time?
@@stevenbaumann8692 You people aren't thinking. You work at Tesla. You quit or get fired. Then you start a channel "Tesla Insider" and cash in the rest of your lives. Gen-x should not have to tell you that is how its done today.
@@stoneneils So being dishonest to mislead people to get money. People with any moral integrity would not have to be told how this is immoral.
He has a REALLY LOUSY record of employee relationships. But, he would, if he actually has ASD but has never gone through any theraputic processes to help him and the wealth he has doesn't require him to, ye see....as for his diagnosis, which, NONE of us KNOW for sure....what are we supposed to do? ask to see his medical report with his doctors? STOP TRYING TO INFRINGE ON PEOPLES PRIVACY RIGHT!! Not to mention some people say he's been lieing about it, (HOW would THEY know, btw? Surely they'd have PROVEN that accusation by now, eh?), and was actually diagnosed a narcissistic psychopath. There's NO PROOF OF THAT, btw, so don't bother trying to spread THAT one around. People with ASD process verbal communication very differently under lee hood, it can lead to confusion and frustration and if he's unaware of any sensory issues that might overload him on a stressed out day would absolutely trigger meltdowns (and they are VERY different than a neurotypical 'tantrum'.....allow me please: a 'tantrum' is what a person has when they don't get what they want.....a 'meltdown' is more like an epileptic seizure....a sudden storm of electricty in the brain and similar to an epileptic seizure, and has a real 'wipeout' on them which is called 'autistic burnout', which results from, in particular, people with mild Autism NOT being able to honor their own conditions needs because 'normal' people are so god damned demanding and perfectionistic and people with autism or constantly having to commpensate and push...ok, so now, no, I'm NOT going to spend any further energy here educating you, valdbot, so go look up ASD from the Mayo clinic yourself. Or Johns Hopkins. Or Oxford. Or UCLA or the university of Moscow or Mexico city or Tokyo or Hong Kong or the Phillipines or Germany if indeed you are still allowed unrestricted internet access but we beyond our walls of repression know it cuts you off from *recent scientific data* on MANY thnings....FFS it's 2024 and you have a VAST AMOUNT OF HUMAN SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH FREELY OFFERED TO YOU (beyond your internet bill) AND WHAT DO YOU DO WITH IT?
YOU sit around WHINGING about what some spoiled inheritance aspie thinks and wants. HE LIVES RENT FREE IN YOUR HEADS and it's sad. You shouldn't allow anyone elses presence, visible or not, to colonize your own mind like has. He doens't have to go to Mars. He only needs to speak online and wait for the shrill."REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! STAHP TAWKEEN NAZI!" to know he does and YOU give it to him, you dummies. "Voters get the governance they deserve." is an idea that seems to entirely slip your conscious notice.
Walter Isaacson, Musk's biographer, says Musk burns out almost everyone who has worked for him, and once they leave his companies, they don't really want to go back to work for him. Musk needs endless supplies of talented workers who have not worked for him before, which is why he needs to recruit foreign workers.
this 100%. musk *loves* china's 996 schedule and absolutely hates labor laws. he also hates employees who have a choice, hence why he's one of the biggest H1B employers in all of SV : those workers are stuck with him and can't quit (lest they leave the country) whenever he comes up with some new silly 'ultra mega hardcore dont sleep dont eat pee in a bottle sleep at your desk' plan.
A form of slavery. He sponsors the visa.
He does the same in relationships
Bit like Jobs of Apple. So many of these industrialists are jerks - and it doesn't just apply to the US.
To him workers are just NPCs
Knowing engineers in the workforce; THEY tell me that whenever Tech companies say there isn't enough skilled labor, WHAT THEY MEAN IS MBA OR BETTER WILLING TO WORK FOR CRAP WAGES!!!
Yep. One of the reasons for the fake job postings is too justify the H1-B application.
"Shortage of EXCELLENT engineering talent" ... keyword "EXCELLENT" ... as a US Engineering manager, I can tell you, being an excellent engineer is MUCH more than a college degree. It's just like going to art school doesn't turn one into a successful artist... or learning how to play basketball doesn't make ya an NBA star. In my 40yrs of Engineering, I can spot engineers in minutes who have TALENT, they are inventive, creative and think outside the box ... they had those natural skills BEFORE going to college. In fact, some of the VERY BEST engineers I have hired, didn't even have a bachelors degree.
There is a shortage of engineers, There is a shortage of youngster entering the field because they don't want to work for a living, Musk not being an engineer leeches off others.
@@bigcooter7090there isn’t a shortage of excellent engineers, their wages are too low so there’s too much demand. Saying there’s a labor shortage of any skill is akin to me complaining about a shortage of yachts because they cost more than $500.
Edit: it’s also funny when second rate employers expect excellent staff when many don’t even have the courtesy of posting their wage bands to stop wasting the time of applicants. If you want FAANG equivalent employees, you better pay FAANG wages and provide FAANG benefits.
@@HedgehogsAreBetterThanYou I hire engineers... most I interview are NOT Excellent. A company could offer a high salary to attract Excellent Engineers .. but doing that doesn't create MORE Excellent engineers. Most engineers have a degree, but NO Natural aptitude, most just aren't innovative ... they won't be racking up valuable patents & solutions. This is what Musk is talking about... while I do think Musk is a dickhead, he isn't wrong about this topic.
I have nothing nice to say about Oligarchy
With this new golden age for old way of thinking will pass away. It will be the thing of the past.
@@KmwsstudiosYes, the new golden calf will be our true savior.
With all the emphasis on deportation, why is this illegal immigrant’s status not get talked about? F how much money this SOB has. Illegal is illegal. This f’er is getting fatter off of contracts with the US government citizens money.
Old ways of thinking? The new way is having billionaire owned media telling people how to suspend their thinking and slavishly serve billionaires, to their obvious detriment! 😮
??? Why comment then?
Musk is calling Americans stupid and lazy if you can't read between the lines.
Well many Yanks seem to be highly supportive of him despite all the evidence.
Musk: treat them mean keep them keen 😂
He's not wrong there..
Ironic from a below average conman with no engineering skills, Who has never done a real job.
Right? It’s funny because he’s always saying about going 1000%.
When people say Americans they mean White Americans.
Yep and they want them in these training programs without AA or DEI considerations. Just accept them regardless of qualifications because they are somehow automatically more deserving of the opportunity.
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Musk really don't want them either....white people😂
Yeah one problem most of them are uneducated they are no longer privileged
Yes. That is our tribe. We want our tribe to do well. Perfectly reasonable.
How does MAGA plan on funding engineering tracks when they want to get rid of the Department of Education?
Will trump is a very smart man so he knows. If people been watching him for the past several years he doesn't mess around.
He is quite clear on adding jobs
@@Kmwsstudios Your comment is incoherent.
@@MultiKatieBee you won't be saying that within 3 years. We are at a time that the golden age is beginning. And are all thoughts in a way of thinking will pass away, to challenge us to think for ourselves instead of having the media and other things for you. Trust me next year you will definitely learn a lot. That you haven't learned anything in your lifetime.
Maga is in bed with china and wants to outsource everything including our tech innovation to them
Try feeding kids, educating them, and giving them sustainable jobs. The billionaire class never offers up their wealth but begs for more welfare for themselves on our labor, data, economics, and expertise.
Billionaire wealth is OUR wealth. We made that, not them.
Let's take it back by any means necessary
lol elon literally fires engineers the minute there's a quarterly dip in revenue. also we all know what "super motivated" means in this context - it's shorthand for working twice the hours for no additional compensation while mr. micromanaging CEO sweaty twitter fingers hovers around the office cosplaying as a coder (which, anyone who's ever seen elon work a computer knows his technical skills are a meme)
😂 they must be hoping they wake up and realize it was all a fever dream.
But they signed the mandatory paper promising to "WORK HARDCORE" ... without compensation. lol (anyone working for Musk is a fool).
elon just keeps on playing diablo 4 and that path of exile 2 to which he got banned lmao 😆
@@arvinjay336He’s not even good ad Diablo 4, just bought the best loot. 😂
They want the best low wage worker with no benefits and no union affiliation.
It also looks like once those contracts are filled they will let go the work force in a New York second.
Deal with the misogyny. I did EE. My daughter did ME. The misogyny was so vile, I left after two years my daughter lasted 5 years. We ended up far from engineering. Despite being 30 yrs after me, the misogyny had not lessened. Her department had 8 former engineers, all female. All left engineering due to misogyny.
People need to hear this more. I'm from a country less sexist than America (Philippines) and the amount of DISRESPECT male American co-workers have for female coworkers are absurd, and they're not even good at their job! You won't hear such insults from your male Filipino co-workers...
@@Camy-2004 You got my attention. You mean I can get professional respect in the Philippines?
The big picture is that Elon sees the world HIS oyster - a gamer, looking at people as being disposable playing pieces, who feels he has garnered most of the game’s resources, & paid well to fix the rules to suit him, & now, he wants to go to the next ‘level’ & do it again. NOW. The earth getting fixed & its peoples’ wellbeing being respected? - too boring. The creatures of the earth don’t matter. WHEN things get broken in the process of his science fiction fantasy game, he says he will pay fines - but that money won’t fix things in our complex global ecosystem.
He is a selfish, callous, brat, & he needs STOPPING😡
I've been in tech for almost 4 decades so naturally, I've watched this issue closely during my career. US corporations used H-1B visas for foreign tech workers not to replace US workers or "take their jobs", but to keep salary levels depressed. They saw salaries getting too high so they ran to the government crying, "Tech worker shortage! Tech worker shortage!". It was a lie, there was only a shortage of workers who were willing to work for a modest salary.... there was no shortage if companies were willing to pay generous wages. But the government always does what companies want, not what benefits workers, so they created the H-1B visa program which brought tens of thousands of tech workers into the US willing to work for low salaries. Had they not done this, many Americans like me would probably have about a million dollars more in our bank accounts right now. But no, no one "took my job".
What's ironic is that the lie of a tech worker shortage became a self-fulfilling prophecy. College students are not dumb, and when comp-sci majors saw that tech salaries were no longer as high as they once were (due to H-1Bs as I stated), many of them switched to other majors. So in the end there really was a slight shortage of US-born tech workers, just as US corporations had falsely claimed, prematurely.
If politicians really believed in the free market as they always claim they do, they would have allowed tech salaries to temporarily climb up to high levels, then thousands of college kids would have switched over into comp-sci majors and the "shortage" would have worked itself out naturally, with greater competition for jobs bringing salaries down to reasonable levels. But unfortunately politicians only allow the market to operate freely when it puts money in their pockets (or money in the pockets of their donors).
That really sums it up. Thank You 👍
Thank you for this analysis, but please be more specific. They saw that the wages of the lower 90% were getting too high. They’ve been fine with spiking the incomes of the upper 10% to be 100x+ the compensation they pay to the rest.
Hilarious an immigrant fooled them.
But he's Them-Colored. They don't love America, they love their Volk. Trump begs for immigrants to come from Norway. You know why.
Poor people in the Us cant afford university, They don't get a chance to even try because their families don t have the money. In Canada you don't go into debt for the rest of your life to get an education.
but trans people ... the trans people man ... and communism
I couldn't get a job as CEO at Telsa, a deportable holds that position.
See, they are not hired because of low payout demands. 😂
Facts!!!!!!
what happen to lift yourself by the bootstrap,conservative... the funny part is, elon is a foreigner but none of them point that out..lol
They want you to lift yourself up by the bootstrap. Not themselves.
trump is an anchor-baby - no-one ever points that out.
he did enter the country legally by meeting the eligibility requirements and following the naturalization process outlined by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). if you think republicans want to deport all foreigners than you need to do some research.
@@lewie110 It is you who needs to do more research. There's more to entering the country legally on a student visa. To convert that to a work visa there are procedures to follow - not the least of which is *not* working (in any way) while waiting. Then failing to admit on the permanent residency visa process that you *did* work illegally.
@@lewie110 I'm only going to use Trumpist arguments from now on.. He ought to go back to Africa and help his own people.
Thank you, Chris, for sharing your background about being a refugee as a result of the Vietnam War. My family escaped from Vietnam and settled in Canada.
Funny how literally the richest man in the world is talking about he can not hire enough talents. The best soccer players alltogether cost only 1.4 billion USD and I guess even the 10 world best engineers are much cheaper. He is just an cheapskate and blaming others for his greed.
re: "He is just an cheapskate and blaming others for his greed..." see entry for "Scapegoats". # SCAPEGOATS
He is an immigrant himself. Don't miss that point.
He cannot rehire the hundreds of people he already laid off, that's the real reason. People who worked for him would never want to return. His only source of workers has to be foreign import because Americans don't want to work for him. Not that Americans don't want to work, they do. Americans just don't want to work for Musk specifically.
The thing about MAGA is that they will go where they are lead.
Like lemmings right off the edge into a fiery pit , all shouting out thank you master can I have some more!
I've lived in SF since 99. IT'S THE LOW PAY AND SHIT HOURS. PERIOD. Oh, also the lack of job security from employers. They will fire everyone to make their target quarterly, then hire everyone back 30 days later with a pay cut. I worked in Video games and my BF worked for Apple and a few AI startups. We rarely got to see one another most months due to project crunch times. It's not a great life.
Sounds like the perfect American Dream.
Unfortunately our „high tech“ company‘s CEO compares our profit margin to the one of US competitors.
While also asking about our work-life-balance.
I can tell you, we will never get US margins, because we work to live.
I remember when this trend started. In was in the early 80's. Started with Texas Instruments. The technology was developing so fast that they realized that they had to be flexible and only bring in what they needed for the contracts. Otherwise everyone would cap out on the pay too soon.
Bro! If you are living in SF, you should know that these H1B workers actually make a lot of money. They are NOT cheap labor. A company hiring foreign workers is MANDATED by law to pay higher wages to H1B worker than the median pay for a particular job class. There is absolutely a shortage of qualified engineers. Not just in IT, but also in electrical and mechanical and host of other STEM fields. Forget engineers, we can't even find enough electrical linemen, technicians and other roles. I am a professional engineer, and we need engineers, and we barely find any US citizens applying. The issues with US is the lack of people in college due to high cost. What is needed is public investment in higher education. College enrolment has fallen down year on year. What do you expect?
@rajatsingh2956 oh I do know that. I also know their immigration status is tied to their jobs. I kinda skipped that part of the video. I deplore that program for several reasons. None of them racist in nature. It's just a horrible program that takes advantage of people and I hate that.
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Just an idea:
The country gives education to its children for free and the then in good jobs people pay taxes to educate the next generation. Companies pay taxes too, because they use all that „infrastructure“.
Cutting taxes and education, just to complain about „stupid locals“ should make it easy to judge the complainers.
An immigrant stole Trump’s job ❤😂😂
I worked tech jobs for 30 years and I was never without a job because of immigrants.
I worked in Silicon Valley medical manufacturing for over 35 years as a senior precision mechanical inspector - I retired in 2017 and they STILL have not been able to find a qualified replacement. There is a woeful shortage of skilled manual labor because we stopped instructing kids how to work with their hands. We stuck all the kids behind computers at school. No one is being taught mechanic's, woodshop, and other tasks that are NOT computer based. Folks blaming either side of the political spectrum have fallen for the grift of the 1% - in order to place blame, we need to start looking at the 1% and not at each other.
They also need competent CEOs... Instead of grifters that don't know what they are doing.
This sounds like a South Park skit.
They took our jobs!!!
@realchris
They say "our jerbs!!!" 😅
That's all of politics ever since Blompf entered the scene
That's what USA has become.
@@brokeboy87 omgosh that’s what I was thinking too!! “That takin our Jarbs”
😅👍🏻
16:54 Indeed, Steve Job's biological father was from Syria. He didn't raise him though. His biological mother was a German-Swiss Catholic, also not exactly traditional American. He was brought up by his adopted parents.
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
~ The Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation, Inc.
Poem added by a Self interested J that wasn't actually originally there*
@@cyberninjazero5659 Doesn't matter. It's the basic premise of what America IS! The experiment to welcome anyone fleeing from tyranny to live in country that protects their rights and freedom.
Keep the native US ignorant which is an unspoken policy which allows large corps to bring in skilled cheap labour, doing the same in my country UK.
They all wanna have cheap labor with more than 5 years experience...
If there is a shortage in talent, most likely Musk's companies are no longer a first choice for the best talent but likely their last. He's impacting his companies very negatively in all areas due to his political antics and interference.
Yet hes doing big things that people didnt think were possible
When I went for my master's degree, I was the token American. All other grad students were from China or India. When I went for my PhD, I was one of 20 Americans.
When I applied at Cadence, I did not get the job because they already picked a foreign engineer.
Chris you are absolutely right as a naturalized citizen I am shocked what a taboo class is. The rest of the world is keenly aware of class difference and it's fundamental to a lot of it's culture. Here in the USA race and color is central while the rich skate.
To get a work visa for a foreign engineer, you need a Planket petition to get approved. This asserts that the needed skill is not available in the American engineering pool and is not possible to be built up in time for the task
At the tail end of the boomers I've known guys that have had to go back to school 4 times to change their skills so they could work. They would work their way up to better pay then be let go while their jobs were outsourced.
If you consider what happened to the original native Americans when they didn't put a stop to illegal immigration, the concerns of the descendants of those illegal immigrants, who are now running scared, are understandable.
Yeah, my ex had a computer engineering degree, but could not get a job in his field because they advertise for unicorns with all of the latest knowledge, specific degrees/certifications, and 5 years of experience in brand new technologies. State Farm didn’t employ any Americans, at that time, because they could recruit from abroad, people who had almost zero training or knowledge but very creative fictional degrees and a willingness to work at low salaries. They brought whole families with them, who’ve obtained residency and work permits under false pretenses. Big corporations have done more to undermine ambitious college students, and our high tech labor market, than anyone walking a thousand miles to work menial labor in the USA.
Those foreign recruits are only allowed to work for the company that imported them, for as long as they remain non-citizens, so they are stuck unless they become naturalized citizens in record time, which isn’t as easy as people think it is. It’s not uncommon for those who don’t measure up, to be fired and NOT be deported because their spouse has acquired a work visa for another company and the family remains here without ever taking steps to become citizens.
In essence, Musk, and all the other fat cats, don’t want to pay reasonable wages to Americans AT ALL. It isn’t a shortage of intelligence or skills, it is a deliberate devaluation of the people who already have them, in favor of trainable foreigners who aren’t aware that they’re being used in nefarious ways.
life long engineer and retired. Only one in ten people going to engineering school will succeed finish school, obtain an engineering license and work in their field all the way to retirement
23:54 A few years back, I worked with an engineer who had fled South Africa. He shared his story with me: “South Africa was incredibly violent and unstable. I seized the only chance I had to escape by moving to the UK, where I spent a year working as an unskilled laborer in a freezer fish warehouse.” Although he was trained as an artist, there were no opportunities in his field, forcing him to take on one of the toughest jobs imaginable. He endured freezing temperatures of minus 23°C, tirelessly pushing crates of frozen fish. By the end of that year, his clothes smelled so strongly of fish that he even had to throw away his watch. Sadly, since his departure, South Africa has only continued to deteriorate. He had an option to move to the UK because he had British heritage, his parents were descendants of Englishmen, and there was a program of repatriation from the former colonies as long as you could prove your heritage.
I did a video on the Musk book th-cam.com/video/x_U5B_SlgPU/w-d-xo.html
while working for a large tech company i think what people fail to add ids that there can be a shortage of tech employees who will work for a given salary. that’s the key. supposedly hiring out of country for projects that can’t meet human resources they actually have revolving paperwork to constantly sponsor new employees because they always want them. i talked to some and they are afraid to to ask for raises because losing corporate sponsorship would be a mess and they don’t want to make waves until they get their green cards which could take a while. and im sure management knows this.
I work with a guy who has a CS degree and he's making 60K as a maintenance man. There are talented folks out there, but they've been denied these jobs.
Is that by choice?
@ericnelson9100 I knew 2 working at target. I'm a programmer funnily enough, no cs degree. The problem is, to get a good gig you have to be good at the interview and not give up..... ever. Took me 3 years of interviews as almost as side job to get my current gig.
Having a CS degree is a fine thing but, in it self, does not qualify you for a job. You also have to be able to the job and work with others.
Comments like this always sound so ridiculous…so out of touch with reality. Like it’s so simple…CS degree but no job was given to me. 😭 A degree and US birth certificate does is not a guaranteed job. Unless…unless you actually count someone who wishes and complains that it should be that easy. You need to also have get some internships or experience at the bottom level, then to learn or pay to have your resume in the correct format and network for difficult entry jobs. And actually need soft skills to land interviews and promotions . On top of testing well in interviews. Okay so go edit your comment and add all these details so it makes more sense.
@@cblsethen what’s the point of degrees?
You can't get a tech job in America. As someone born here that started out hacking a VIC-20, yeah, I never got a single tech job except as workstudy in college.
The reality is you have to give up your life, become a carpet bagger, and then jump through some insane google style dysutopian interview... only to find out the job didn't actually exist.
What skills are lacking? Like name one specific skill? They can't, because there isn't one.
No one voted for president Musk (sniff). Shame about VP Trump! 😢
That's first lady trump! 😂
@@dogwalker666😂😂Donna Trump
@DouradaBambina indeed!
The US labor market is in trouble because the educational system is lousy and the US don’t has a vocational training system
Our school financing system is based on taxing local property values. Which guarantees that rich neighborhoods will always have more $ per student than poor neighborhoods. The students from rich schools will easily get jobs in law and banking. The ones from poor schools won't get into engineering school. I don't understand why anyone is surprised by the results.
What must be pointed out and that these CEO's seem to ignore is the incredible amount of "posted" jobs that actually aren't. They do not intend to hire. This was going on a decade ago, and I had to start a business because most of the jobs I wsa applying for were NOT hiring. The problem has only gotten worst.
I've recently retired, but the issues are more complex than what a lot of people are carping about. For one, you are not going to find an illegal immigrant taking a highly skilled tech job from anybody due to the high visibility and excessive proof required for these jobs. Also, I've seen that a lot of HR departments don't screen talent as well to get candidates to the first interview because the job requirements are ridiculous and not well thought out. Also, it looked like much of the positions are for candidates with 5+ years of experience, where HR is screening out candidates that have less experience. Also, the very best engineers are the ones that have been mentored properly and trained by experienced and motivated seniors, who instill a sense of wonder, initiative and helps the new engineers with gaining the requisite experience to advance and to develop new ideas that advance technological innovation. Most of the people who complain about the lack of native American talent or about illegal immigrants taking these jobs are people who are not engineer, or work with, mentor and teach younger engineers.
I was in IT 30 years and never met one conservative except in the shipping departments. I guess it might exist tody but we were always so left of center and rebellious.
We need to change the cultural attitude about education. Parents are afraid their children will be smarter than they are resulting in a loss of control over them. Currently, parents and corporations want control more than better education.
Something you hear only in deeply religious nutty conservative America. Everywhere else in the first world parents are happy to see their kids surpass them.
Say whuuuut? That idea seems to have been dredged up from the 1920s. Every parent I ever met was so proud of their super smart well educated kid that was gonna have a great life make money, have kids, take care of their parents when they retire. If things have receeded that far backwards in the last 15 years... dayum. That's really sad and pathetic.
My parents and grandparents where less and much less educated than me.
None of them went to highschool. Now at the end of my life I learned that I was one of two children to immediately go to highschool (others used longer paths, as we have multiple ways to enter universities) from my village. The other was the son of the mayor. I have to thank my parents to get this done.
Most parents here in Germany are proud of their kids know more, have better jobs, …
@@punkagrrlzero I am not saying that some parents are not proud of their kids, but in the u.s., the drive to abolish national standards for “local” control, school vouchers that are mostly going to unaccredited charter schools or religious schools, book bans, bans on minority histories, etc. as well as the fact that most material is printed in langugae that is no higher than grade 6. How do we expect kids to compete with countries where education is valued, expansive and universities are free? We can’t.
@@punkagrrlzeroI’m sure there are proud parents who take their children to church and whose children believe unscientific things based on illogical arguments.
From a shareholder point of view. H1B visa workers are the best. You hold their entire future in their hands and will grovel for everything to stay here.
I worked full time while going to school full time, earning my MBA. I had the advantage of living in a state with an excellent network of universities.
Education system in the US is a not great, especially in the poor area.
This was my comment: *AM3RIC4NS ARE BADLY EDUCATED* your schooling system is funded through property tax, so it depends way more on how wealthy your area is than how clever you are - then your universities are insanity price levels, this is why you rely on stealing talented people from other countries
The average IQ in the US just dropped to 97.4. In North Korea its 98.8. In China its 105 and Taiwan its 107. If you dont INVEST in your people you get overtaken by countries that do...!!!
What all those people really want is the government taking charge of the education infrastructure and make the means to acquire engineering skills readily available to the greater number without a lifetime burden of student debt.
But that would be "socialism", so these people will keep voting against their own interests and make up fantasies about tech companies doing the government's job...
The whole H1B visa issue, which is how most foreign tech workers get into the US, is very complex and frankly heavily abused by Tech companies. Folks come in on those visas and aren't free to look for other jobs and must accept the pay and conditions. If they are that valuable give them a green card and let them move around. Most companies don't want this to occur - they want tech slaves.
American workers elected a man because he said "he alone" could lower the price of eggs, maybe high-tech jobs would be out of the reach of these people!
0:45 I work for a large construction equipment manufacturer. We started outsourcing jobs years ago, what’s new is now we’re outsourcing endless positions that would’ve typically gone to Americans in the past like analyst, product manager, commodity manager, etc.
The amount of tech jobs needed is inflated because companies base their stock valuation on how many employees they have. They hire people to manage one button on a website. It’s ridiculous.
I don’t know why people think construction is a lowly job that used to be a desired well paid job you had to apprentice become a journeyman, a master carpenter, and then they started hiring lower wage workers, and then nobody can afford to do construction anymore the wages drop alot
Foreign talent is more easily controled and manipulated.
This issue is probably the reason why President Musk and Vice President Trump want to get rid of the department of education. Get rid of the department of education, education standards fall dramatically and then they will say "look, we are to stupid in this country to work".
Microsoft used to only hire immigrant - green card - Indians - early 2000's because much cheaper. Outsourced the jobs for $$$$$$$$$$
Elon loves H1B workers because he knows they will put up with anything he forces upon them, since their status depends on his job. Working in tech in SF I’ve seen these folks tolerate the toxic grindset far better than most U.S. born people will today, because their lives and livelihoods depend on it.
Elon doesn’t not comprehend empathy or compassion or faithfulness. It’s Work harder so I can get wealthier and toss you when there is a downturn or I decide so but remember it’s not personal cause I don’t feel your pain and my rent is paid. I mean I own the building and your rent is due.
I don’t know if these people commenting truly understand how hard a STEM major is. We don’t have enough students in programs like that because the bar is so high to succeed. As you said, Chris, lots of students go into business.
Maybe the best plan than is to reduce pre-university education even more, isn’t it?!!
There is a YT from an IS engineer working/living in Germany and he commented about the homework of his 5-grade son: „I didn’t see such questions until highschool back in the US“.
School can prepare you for a potential life as an engineer, or for a life as a consumer.
Guess which one is a native English speaker?!!
Pay is the issue! In my experience, big corps prefer "green" card due to no union, pay them less, no security! All about money and control.
What annoys me the most about this “job market” is how they’ve created it into a market.
The same applies to the “dating market” as both terms dehumanize people regardless of race, ethnicity, or gender into being nothing less than numbers or data that decide their value.
Secondly, Russia probably has the most job opportunities for Europeans, specifically due to its Arctic mega project and similar culture.
Perhaps you have some insight into how, regardless of where you work in the world right now, if you have the choice to decide, you are most likely going to be safe.
Americans have that privilege and don’t use it, and I think they need to realize that they are in a corporate-run country.
Solution: Leave and utilize the dollar's advantages over other currencies while you can.
I’ll address this in coming video, stay turned! And thank you for the support :)
Also you’ll like my book as I talk about going to other countries :) www.amazon.com/dp/B0CFHFJP25
@@realchris I swear it feels like every TH-camr has a book these days
Why is that such a trend? I’ve never understood it
I can't speak to others on TH-cam. But I can assure you my book is nothing like others because my story and experience is once in a lifetime. The first chapter is free and you can see what I mean :)
I’d never, ever move to USA.
where do you live any jobs for us?
You do a great job. Keep up the good work Brother.
Musks idea of talent is on full display in the DOGE posting. He wants people who will make work their life for peanuts. His idea of"talent" is not the mainstream definition.
When managing a large student employee program, I had to vet the American students because most of them didn't want to think about their job, how to get it done, most wanted explicit instructions and extensive personal attention. Foreign born would hit the ground running. So yes, cheaper from a productivity point of view. With a few American exceptions, mostly those with poor parents.
This is the story that happened in Silicon Valley when they started bringing in H1B engineers from India. The Indian company brought their brightest engineers from IIT (top university) to be interviewed by human resource department in one of the biggest tech companies and they made very good impression with HR. One of the HR managers said that Indian engineers were very smart, smarter than the U.S. engineers, and that was the start of massive number of H1B engineers entering the U.S. and massive layoff of U.S. engineers repeatedly to get cheaper labor. This was planned by the venture capitals and CEOs of tech companies. I know this sounds racist but that was what happpened.
Additionally, only a few of H1B engineers were at the caliber of what the U.S. engineers from good universities. Most of them were mediocre with no experience but their resumes were souped up with matching key words to fit the job description to get hired. Basically, the Indian recruiting companies hired these engineers and made a lot of money out of their salaries. Most of the U.S. engineers don't like to lie on their resumes so they are less likely to get hired.
bosses we need more workers. Nobby wnats to work anymore.
same bosses make it impossible to get a job by demanding a 1000 different degrees. also the same bosses sack all our workers.
Nobby already has a steady job.
@rjlchristie true
@rjlchristie ecept elon musk it seems.
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And their best employees, and hardest to replace, that don't get booted out the door at the first sign of profit drop? They are then expected to cover the work of everyone that did get fired, and get literally worked until they burnout and need to quit because of the toll on their health!!
Two points on the hard jobs people ask if Americans would do it.
1) The illegal immigrants who do those jobs are actually highly skilled.
2) The point of hiring illegal immigrants is to get labor without any workplace protections and get as close to operating the business with slave labor as possible. The reason why citizens tend not to do that work is that they demand more pay and not to be mistreated.
Bonus: due to demographic changes in Mexico the seasonal Mexican labor supply is going to dry up and we will have to consider *gasp* not exploiting farm labor anymore!
Tech talent wouldn’t be a limiting factor at Twitter if they hired remote workers.
I know a lot of engineers that wouldn't work for a Musk company because of the sweatshop conditions and obvious no work/life balance. His reputation is not good in my circles
The truth is that foreigners are rich, not talented. It is expensive in these highering areas.
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Elon: Come
On MAGA you screwed up…you trusted me…😂😂😂😂
It's amusing to watch Leon put on the persona of a sane reasonable individual. The sage on the mountaintop act never disappoints.
"Motivated" foreign engineers are those who go to bed with empty stomachs, who wear holes in their shoes before buying new ones.
What it really is is that H1B employees are tied to their employers and give the employer huge leverage over those people. They are easier to hire and pay less. There's a whole shadow setup of H1B job listings where they never allow americans to apply. It's easy to see this happen, h1b salaries are public record by law, which does make it easier to see what these people are getting paid, and how it's under other people. There's plenty of smart Americans to take the jobs.
Litterly serfdom
Enough with the misinformation. H1B workers are NOT tied to their companies. They can leave whenever they want, and often do. The VISA is given by the US Govt, the company only sponsors it. H1B workers are also paid higher than median wage for same job, because it is mandated by law to prevent hiring for cheap labor.
i like when the complaint about the 'merican education isn't that conservatives don't want it funded, but cat litter and hygiene products
extra points when they don't seem to have a clue about the reason schools might have the cat litter on site
:/
Our janitor kept it to handle snow/ice. They also kept sawdust for vomit. I suspect conservatives have turned that into a story about kids wanting to be hamsters. 😅
This is because is cheaper in cost to import ingineers like any other asset.
A mother is automatically a leader.
Silly me, I thought Elon did all the work himself. 😅
Here's why they are fighting against education. If there's competition for jobs then they will have to pay more for talent. If jobs are hard to come by people will accept less money. If there's this shortage and they need foreign labor then why are they cutting wages? Traditionally when there's a labor shortage wages go up. Lately the opposite happens and when there's a shortage businesses insist they have to cut wages. Their solution to every problem is to cut wages. Here's a thought, cut corporate tax deductions.
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
The way Musk treats his workforce, you have to be desperate to work for him.
Chris, I recently found your channel. I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your warm personality and highly intelligent take on things, and thanks for sharing that you were a refugee. Great topic to highlight the deep crevasses opening up under pressure between Trump, MAGA and Musk. One to watch!
he needs to be deported and trump should go to prison
There’s a STEM expert shortage like there’s a teacher shortage. There isn’t one. I am both, there are thousands of us who can’t or won’t work under the inhumane conditions expected.
I went into Science Education to try to understand and address this issue, only to learn that it would be almost impossible to be ALLOWED to teach science in the underserved schools where I student taught. I learned that our education system is intentionally failing, wonder who has been invested in underfunding schools while expecting more from them. Real mystery.
American-born SWE here. I wouldn't work for elon's companies because it's basically known in the industry that he will work you for more hours and less pay than industry standard -- yet here he is complaining about how he can't find enough people with the "drive" to fuel the economy.
From what you are seeing now in the industry do you feel anyone is hiring at the moment? I know there were a lot of layoffs recently too.
@@realchris Job market is tight in my experience. I have friends that have been looking for jobs for like 6 months now. I'll be finishing a masters in AI sometime this year and I might not even use it to job hop due to the stress of having to deal with the current application process.
I'm uploading a new video in relation to AI stuff now. Would love to hear your thoughts on it. Stay tuned!
Maybe tech should come to terms with the fact that they are nothing special. Learn to live with normal, human, employees. Like a mature, pretty boring industry.
I've worked as a union construction laborer for 34 years. I worked many non-union construction jobs before that. From my personal experience immigrant labor has kept wages down, I've personally had undocumented immigrants work for me and they are no more skilled. They will readily break the law and do unsafe work because they don't know any better. Communication difficulties can be a big hurdle too. Roofing wages, concrete and many other low skilled crafts have had stagnant wages for 30 years in some instances. This is why American youth find many of these jobs unattractive. The nursing home industry is the same thing. I've found as a rule second generation immigrants tend to be conservative and despite the fact liberals seem to be more pro-immigration, though I'm not. Hispanic immigrants are ofen very conservative especially when it comes to traditional family structure (The man is the boss and the woman is a slave.) and religious idealism. My summation always comes down to except for third world labor, Amerikkka is a shareholder paradise. Politicians on both sides of the isle are bought and paid for.
American Youth actually currently seem to be finding those jobs fairly attractive because wages shot up, in turn because immigration to take those jobs suddenly dried up while demand for apartments and condos in particular has exploded. The pay is, at least in some regions, comparable to starting off at Goldman Sachs, and unlike Goldman Sachs, construction firms are actually hiring right now. It seems that this may partially explain the US housing crisis, because firms have yet to fully adapt to the new reality of worker shortages in sectors that were traditionally seen as less lower skilled, at least in recent times.
@unconventionalideas5683 The trades is still a good prospect, but I'd be leary of future pensions. I have a feeling we're heading for a time of some union busting.
There is no shortage of engineers, they’re all getting laid off and still looking for work… so out of touch with reality
After all they don't accept science!
I don’t know why people think construction is a lowly job that used to be a desired well paid job you had to apprentice become a journeyman, a master carpenter, and then they started hiring lower wage workers, and then nobody can afford to do construction anymore the wages drop a lot
Refugees often make some of the most patriotic citizens with a deep love and appreciation for the country that took them in.
Oof. Looking to Germany rn
@SocietalDefibrilation and Canada and England
Jordan and Egypt will beg to differ
@SocietalDefibrilation The very few refugees who become extremists are not representative of the larger population. My grandfather was a refugee, displaced by German Nazis, and my great-grandparents were the equivalent to refugees before the definition existed, but displaced and subjugated by the British. So I'm speaking from personal experience. The extremists you describe would not have been radicalised without the widespread colonialism and neocolonialism practiced by the West. Neither would have they become refugees in the first place. Germany and other Western countries also have plenty of native violent extremists, but without neocolonial subjugation as a causative factor, instead being radicalised by neocolonial propaganda. If you are a sucker to becoming indoctrinated by the neocolonial propaganda that manufactures consent for Western imperialism, warmongering, and the isolationism that takes our attention away from the real enemies, the oligarchs, and turns it instead on demonised out-groups, then of course you will automatically associate refugees with extremism.
@@mostbased How do Jordananian and Egyptyptians often treat and judge their refugees? Out-group resentment both warps the opinion of refugees and makes refugees, who have no choice in their situation, resent those who insist on dehumanising them. Unless you are a person easily hoodwinked in by out-group hostility and in-group favouritism, these things are really not hard to figure out. When Egyptians have to seek refugee status in other countries, how do you think Egyptians would like these people to be treated by their host countries? Hypocrisy is not a virtue nor is it a result of logic.