These things aren't exactly like a trumpet wound in the shape of a horn. The tubing diameter, taper, and bell, are quite different to help give it a horn sound versus a trumpet sound. However, the sound isn't all that different from a flugelhorn. I could imagine a jazz trumpet player using one of these things when he wanted a mellower sound with a bit of novelty.
it is lefthanded, and uses a horn (cone-shaped) mouthpiece, requiring different embouchure. so not exactly ready for a trumpeter to just pick up and play, I guess.
@@haomingli6175 Well, I used to play horn until I switched to trumpet. I don't think anybody would have any difficulty at with using the left hand without even having to practice. It's just a mirror image. If you are right-handed, you will probably find you can write fairly well left-handed - IF you write from right to left. Yes, the mouthpiece is not only different, but the percentage of each lip covered by it is different. For the French horn you typically have 2/3 upper lip and 1/3 lower lip. Where with the trumpet is more 50-50. However, it is easier to switch back and forth than somebody might guess. Here is TH-cam of one person on BOTH horn and trumpet playing "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan // French Horn & Trumpet Cover" (which is a spectacular movie soundtrack by the late James Horner): th-cam.com/video/xP9vdXQ-yEM/w-d-xo.html
You can probably get away with playing mid to low trumpet or flugelhorn parts on these cute little novelty instruments, but unfortunately they play extremely out of tune the higher you go. So bad in fact that once you start playing notes above the staff you can actually play notes so badly flat that they are closer to the next lower note. I've tried for over 10 years playing with alternate fingerings, different mouthpieces, hand positions in and out of the tiny bell, and all I've gotten was frustrated with how bad the intonation is when you start to play in the middle of the staff and higher, which is unfortunate because normal descant horns (horns made of shorter lengths for high horn parts) sound fantastic when you play high above the staff. This is sadly an out of tune toy.
By the way, do you find that putting your flat hand across the bell works better than a partial hand inside the bell, more like a full sized horn? As a former horn doubler, I'm curious. Thanx!
Guy J. Clark I actually put my middle and ring fingers inside the bell, while keeping the others on the outside to support the horn. Regardless, either way seem fine I would assume.
Unfortunately no because of how out of tune they get the higher you play. I've tried using mine to play high horn parts and the higher you play the flatter the notes get, so bad in fact that you actually start to play lower notes altogether.
Looks useful for a band teacher whose primary is horn but needs to help out trumpet players. I’ll take one. For that reason. Not that horn is my primary, it’s just the brass instrument i noodle on the most.
I wish. Unfortunately these instruments get progressively more out of tune the higher you play. They play flatter the higher in the staff you go that once you start playing above the staff it's terribly out of tune, and you even play notes so flat that you're playing the note below it. 😓
Well, not really if trying to play the same range because the tubing is so much shorter. The fingering will be like a B flat trumpet. This will be similar fingerings to a regular B flat horn playing a couple octaves lower. As you probably know, if you play a regular French horn this high, you hardly need much in the way of fingerings.
@JDns-we4fw I used to play French horn and now play trumpet. I don't need to go to school about them. You may need to re-read my comment to understand it. The point is that, as in all brass instruments, the partials result in notes closer together the higher you play. Now, imagine the partials, and their fingerings, for the typical range of a B Flat trumpet. If you play those same notes (same concert pitch) on a horn, you are MUCH further up the sequence of partials on the horn and the concert pitch partials are much closer together on the horn. To have an equivalent relationship of partials on the trumpet you have to be playing about two octaves higher on it than its normal range. Therefore, about two octaves lower on the horn will be similar fingers due to the horn's partials as a trumpet playing in its normal range. Put another way, all brass instruments have a similar mathematical relationship of partials, they just have a different fundamental note. They will have the same fingering sequence (except for trombones, of course, unless a valve trombone) but that will reside at different points up and down the range of concert pitch notes.
It is NOT a Piccolo. It's a Soprano Horn. And it is NOT a Trumpet. Educate yourselves please. A Trumpet had a sepcific definition and so does an F Horn. The various types of Trumpets use different bores and mouthpiece sizes. ALL F Horns use a common bore and mouthpiece size regardless if it is Bass/Contra-Alto or Soprano. Piccolo is one octave higher than Soprano so don't call it a Piccolo. That's like calling a Tenor Trombone a Soprano Trombone.
@@aaronmoore2691 Look...it is not a Trumpet. You don't get to redefine what a Trumpet is. Also, French Horns have a narrower bore and a much smaller mouthpiece than a Trumpet. Regardless of their size/length/key/pitch, all French Horns have the same common bore size and mouthpiece. If you called an Eb Concert Mellophone a round Eb Alto Trumpet or a round Eb Alto Horn, I would not bother to engage you on that. But this, no. The definition of a Trumpet is a brass instrument with a flared bell & cylindrical bore that has a main body section which is two thirds the length of its total bell section. Take a look at a Trumpet. Once you see it you can't unsee it. There's your difference between a Trumpet and a Cornet. And a Flugelhorn and a Bugle. Learn your instruments kid before engaging with a professional.
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These things aren't exactly like a trumpet wound in the shape of a horn. The tubing diameter, taper, and bell, are quite different to help give it a horn sound versus a trumpet sound. However, the sound isn't all that different from a flugelhorn. I could imagine a jazz trumpet player using one of these things when he wanted a mellower sound with a bit of novelty.
it is lefthanded, and uses a horn (cone-shaped) mouthpiece, requiring different embouchure. so not exactly ready for a trumpeter to just pick up and play, I guess.
@@haomingli6175 Well, I used to play horn until I switched to trumpet. I don't think anybody would have any difficulty at with using the left hand without even having to practice. It's just a mirror image. If you are right-handed, you will probably find you can write fairly well left-handed - IF you write from right to left. Yes, the mouthpiece is not only different, but the percentage of each lip covered by it is different. For the French horn you typically have 2/3 upper lip and 1/3 lower lip. Where with the trumpet is more 50-50. However, it is easier to switch back and forth than somebody might guess. Here is TH-cam of one person on BOTH horn and trumpet playing "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan // French Horn & Trumpet Cover" (which is a spectacular movie soundtrack by the late James Horner): th-cam.com/video/xP9vdXQ-yEM/w-d-xo.html
@@haomingli6175 playing left-handed is actually surprisingly easy when you're used to playing righ-handed.
It's a trumpet that French Horn players can play.
It's in b flat
@@chickentender-_-3905 Just like the Bb Trumpet so it can cover any Bb Trumpet music.
That's called a melephone
@@mybeefgotroasted The Piccolo Horn in Bb can cover any Trumpet music and it adds alot.
Its so we can try playing trumpet but we keep our dignity
I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE.
It looks like the JP mini french horn I just saw someone demo on another channel. Very cool. I want one 😁
Me, a trumpet player who also plays french horn: I cAn PlAy ThrEE iNsTruMeNnTs
Omg I love it!! I love all horns though, so
I have a piccolo French horn for myself
is it fun?
I have one, and I agree.
You can probably get away with playing mid to low trumpet or flugelhorn parts on these cute little novelty instruments, but unfortunately they play extremely out of tune the higher you go. So bad in fact that once you start playing notes above the staff you can actually play notes so badly flat that they are closer to the next lower note.
I've tried for over 10 years playing with alternate fingerings, different mouthpieces, hand positions in and out of the tiny bell, and all I've gotten was frustrated with how bad the intonation is when you start to play in the middle of the staff and higher, which is unfortunate because normal descant horns (horns made of shorter lengths for high horn parts) sound fantastic when you play high above the staff.
This is sadly an out of tune toy.
Cuta, & Groovy!!!
Un mini corno súper interesante
By the way, do you find that putting your flat hand across the bell works better than a partial hand inside the bell, more like a full sized horn? As a former horn doubler, I'm curious. Thanx!
Guy J. Clark I actually put my middle and ring fingers inside the bell, while keeping the others on the outside to support the horn. Regardless, either way seem fine I would assume.
@@robertlevine1093 Ah! I didn't see that! Makes sense to me, and your results speak for themselves! Bravo!
That's cool
No instrument is a toy! Remember that!
I go to the sister, and I like playing the French Foreign
Aww c'mon no trill😂😂
I play the French horn my teacher is Mr John cheese in Saint John his name is Johnson but we call him John mr. John
Hi Robert, i am from germany and i just bought me a piccolo Horn-great. Do you have a fingering Chart for the horn?
awww a mini horn
So cute! Did you put it in the dryer? 😂😂
do you no m.r John who played the fronts Warren in Saint John
Have you played a Bb descant horn? I wonder what they sound like since I haven't found any videos of one yet
I have not played a Bb descant horn. Never had the opportunity unfortunately. One day hopefully.
cool! 💕🎵💕
As someone who doesn't have a lot of space to practice, could it be good for practicing the embouchure?
Unfortunately I don’t think so. You’d be better off with a practice mute.
my friend has one and shes let me play on it before and ITS SO FUN!
What's the range man
Which brand is that horn?
Could you use it for the mahler 3 post horn solo?
Unfortunately no because of how out of tune they get the higher you play. I've tried using mine to play high horn parts and the higher you play the flatter the notes get, so bad in fact that you actually start to play lower notes altogether.
Looks useful for a band teacher whose primary is horn but needs to help out trumpet players. I’ll take one. For that reason. Not that horn is my primary, it’s just the brass instrument i noodle on the most.
Made for Brandenburg 2?
I wish. Unfortunately these instruments get progressively more out of tune the higher you play. They play flatter the higher in the staff you go that once you start playing above the staff it's terribly out of tune, and you even play notes so flat that you're playing the note below it. 😓
Do you go to Sgayo
I need the piccolo horn but its $500...
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Are the fingerings the same as French Horn?
Well, not really if trying to play the same range because the tubing is so much shorter. The fingering will be like a B flat trumpet. This will be similar fingerings to a regular B flat horn playing a couple octaves lower. As you probably know, if you play a regular French horn this high, you hardly need much in the way of fingerings.
@@trainliker100 thank you
@@trainliker100 thank you
@JDns-we4fw I used to play French horn and now play trumpet. I don't need to go to school about them. You may need to re-read my comment to understand it. The point is that, as in all brass instruments, the partials result in notes closer together the higher you play. Now, imagine the partials, and their fingerings, for the typical range of a B Flat trumpet. If you play those same notes (same concert pitch) on a horn, you are MUCH further up the sequence of partials on the horn and the concert pitch partials are much closer together on the horn. To have an equivalent relationship of partials on the trumpet you have to be playing about two octaves higher on it than its normal range. Therefore, about two octaves lower on the horn will be similar fingers due to the horn's partials as a trumpet playing in its normal range. Put another way, all brass instruments have a similar mathematical relationship of partials, they just have a different fundamental note. They will have the same fingering sequence (except for trombones, of course, unless a valve trombone) but that will reside at different points up and down the range of concert pitch notes.
What kind of horn is this
It is a piccolo horn. Not sure what brand, most likely some knock off Chinese brand.
@@robertlevine1093 my horn is in f open horn it's bubble horn the gutter
Looks cute! But sounds like a plastic instrument...
Where did you buy this?
It was a gift years ago, so unfortunately I don’t know where it was purchased.
How expensjve are these
its about 200$-300$
It is NOT a Piccolo. It's a Soprano Horn. And it is NOT a Trumpet. Educate yourselves please. A Trumpet had a sepcific definition and so does an F Horn. The various types of Trumpets use different bores and mouthpiece sizes. ALL F Horns use a common bore and mouthpiece size regardless if it is Bass/Contra-Alto or Soprano. Piccolo is one octave higher than Soprano so don't call it a Piccolo. That's like calling a Tenor Trombone a Soprano Trombone.
It's a round trumpet
@@aaronmoore2691 Look...it is not a Trumpet. You don't get to redefine what a Trumpet is. Also, French Horns have a narrower bore and a much smaller mouthpiece than a Trumpet. Regardless of their size/length/key/pitch, all French Horns have the same common bore size and mouthpiece. If you called an Eb Concert Mellophone a round Eb Alto Trumpet or a round Eb Alto Horn, I would not bother to engage you on that. But this, no. The definition of a Trumpet is a brass instrument with a flared bell & cylindrical bore that has a main body section which is two thirds the length of its total bell section. Take a look at a Trumpet. Once you see it you can't unsee it. There's your difference between a Trumpet and a Cornet. And a Flugelhorn and a Bugle. Learn your instruments kid before engaging with a professional.
@user-sk1eh3pg6j As a French Horn player turned Trumpet player: round trumpet go brrrrrrrr.
@@aaronmoore2691 Traitor!
@@user-sk1eh3pg6jmad 😂
Ur holding it wrong it makes the sound awful
Says the person that has never touched a piccolo horn in their life