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It's a round trumpet

@@aaronmoore2691 Look...it is not a Trumpet. You don't get to redefine what a Trumpet is. Also, French Horns have a narrower bore and a much smaller mouthpiece than a Trumpet. Regardless of their size/length/key/pitch, all French Horns have the same common bore size and mouthpiece. If you called an Eb Concert Mellophone a round Eb Alto Trumpet or a round Eb Alto Horn, I would not bother to engage you on that. But this, no. The definition of a Trumpet is a brass instrument with a flared bell & cylindrical bore that has a main body section which is two thirds the length of its total bell section. Take a look at a Trumpet. Once you see it you can't unsee it. There's your difference between a Trumpet and a Cornet. And a Flugelhorn and a Bugle. Learn your instruments kid before engaging with a professional.

@user-sk1eh3pg6j As a French Horn player turned Trumpet player: round trumpet go brrrrrrrr.

@@aaronmoore2691 Traitor!

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@@doko1900 I use a Laskey 75F, regardless of what horn I’m playing. It’s been my absolute go to for the past 12 years now.

Ok,thank you.

I found the Schmid easier to play. Personal preference.

At the beginning, transition from an Alex 103 was a bit surprising, I wasn't a fan of the sound, and I tended to "overdo" everything. After two months of adaptation, going back to the Alex, feels very weird! Now I think I prefer my sound on the Schmid, and I really prefer how it plays.

No. Trumpet, or alto (British tenor) horn.

I believe these stand in F. No need to adjust or change it (unless you want standing in Bb). Which I am unsure if that is possible. A repair tech could probably help one figure out how to change that. Hope this helps!

@@robertlevine1093 Interesting, so it's basically only the design of the pipes that is different but not the full build

@@FrankHoneycord It functions as normal double horns do. It was simply a way to make the Bb slides more easily accessible.

@@robertlevine1093 Amazing, thanks so much! 🙏

Says the person that has never touched a piccolo horn in their life

@@DJKLProductions On a horn tuned to F, the main tube is about 4 meters long. The second tuning slide is about 25 cm long to drop the horn into the key of E. If we insert a 50 cm length of tubing into the main tuning to drop the instrument into Eb, then the second tuning slide must be almost 30 cm to drop it to D. That means when playing a main tuning of Eb, the second slide will need to be pulled out an additional 2.5 cm to get the extra 5 cm of length. The first tuning slide would need to be pulled out almost 5 cm to make it 10 cm longer. The third tuning slide would need to be pulled out about 7 cm, about 2.75 inches! Most tuning slides do not have that much room for adjustment, especially if using an A-445 tuning system that requires the slides to be pulled out to play at A-440 by default. I'm just wondering if they made the made the adjustable sections of the valve slides longer than a normal horn. The hand can do only so much fine tuning without adversely affecting the timbre.

@@cdmcfall I also had reached the same conclusion as you did, and it's quite puzzling, because in his website, the additional extension for the valve slides is not as much as I would've thought (check the "maintenance" section), which is comparable to your numbers.

@@cdmcfall Note that the slides only lower/raise the horn by half step. So you can have B/Gb, Bb/F, A/E (not Eb as in your response). I have created a spreadsheet with numbers based on Lucien Thevet's Method for Horn and the formulas in "Mathematical Brass" paper (not exact but enough for an approximation). 1. Horn in F is 3.79m. This is the only value I took from Thevet's methode. The length of the rest of the tubing is calculated using the formula in the paper. I've checked that the values are close to the ones provided by Thevet (I could not use them directly, because it had very strange results, I think there are some mistakes in these values). I took some measures in my Alex 103 and match well enough. 2. Horn in E is 4.02m 3. When extending the main and F slides to E (there are marks on the tubes), the horn is extended by approx. 22.56cm 4. The 2nd slide for bringing down a horn in F to E is the same, 22.56cm. This is the normal 2nd slide in the F horn. 5. The 2nd slide for bringing down a horn in E to Eb is 23.91cm. But we already have a slide that is 22.56cm long, so we have to take it out by 0.67cm.

@@cdmcfall YT does not allow pasting the link of the spreadsheet, sorry

@@georgH Yeah, I don't know why I typed Eb. I knew what I meant lol. Based on speed of sound (343 m/s) and A-440 tuning, the tube length for F should be 3.93 m (at least for a cylindrical tube: (343 m/s) / (87.31 Hz) = 3.928 m). I'm pretty sure the 3.79 m is a product of intentionally manufacturing horns sharp (one can always pull out). A-455 tuning would indeed put the F at 3.8 m, plus the fact that sound moves faster in the humid inside of the horn. Thanks for the info. I'm actually working now on building a triple horn from scratch, but I've designed some custom fittings (similar to compression fittings in plumbing) and thumb screws so that the entire tail section and lead pipe can be removed and replaced. For chamber music, fit a slightly narrower lead pipe and a narrow throated, smaller bell. For big parts, attach a wide-throated, nickel silver tail and flare. Make it completely modular. the cylindrical valve and tuning sections would be the same bore regardless, but the taper and throat size could be adjusted based on demands of the performance. Theoretically, you could attach the various lead pipes and bells to any cylindrical tubing, so you could swap out the rotary valve assembly for a pumpenvalve assembly and now you have a Vienna horn. Or replace it with a coil of appropriate sized tubing to make a natural horn. It's been a fun project so far, though I have yet to make it past the CAD phase (I do have a PEX version for proof of concept). I'd love to compare your spreadsheet to mine. I may upload it to Google Drive. You can put in a tuning for A, and it will spit out tube lengths for all keys from A0 to C8, plus the theoretical wavelength of each harmonic to determine the most in-tune fingerings. The conical shape does weird things to the harmonics, BTW. It doesn't behave as one would expect from a closed cylindrical tube. And I'll definitely be buying that book!

I need that. I need that 2 valved horn.