SWT Championship Group B - Scend (Ness) Vs. Marss (ZSS) SSBU Ultimate Tournament

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  • @vgbootcamp
    @vgbootcamp  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Smash World Tour Championship is still live! Check it out here: "www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp"

  • @ehrenMX
    @ehrenMX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I became a marss fan over quarantine, it's been rough so far #33rd #worldsbestplayer

    • @sebastiansullivan4770
      @sebastiansullivan4770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mkleo is the best. Mars is sick. Bassmage is an up and comer

    • @bubble4072
      @bubble4072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Content Creator

    • @Turnpost2552
      @Turnpost2552 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sebastiansullivan4770 mkleo is not best lol

    • @lashen4129
      @lashen4129 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sebastiansullivan4770 how can you not put Tweak up there right now lmao, he’s literally smacked everybody

    • @dogAB
      @dogAB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Turnpost2552 lol

  • @DeVanMSX
    @DeVanMSX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    *insert Marss 33rd place meme here*

    • @Liam-cq8bg
      @Liam-cq8bg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      👉😃👉

  • @SaturnSnapple
    @SaturnSnapple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Now I'm actually starting to feel bad. Not even I like seeing him take this many L's

    • @rodgeers7347
      @rodgeers7347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't he win like 2 tournaments this last month?

  • @ivanzilla
    @ivanzilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You can just tell his play style is different… more cautious, harder to read, and just overall more refined… good job BNess…

  • @gangamshow5945
    @gangamshow5945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    THANKS SCEND FOR PUSHING NESS META

  • @christophergurr2421
    @christophergurr2421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Great game by Scend, really finding another high gear. Keep it up, gameplay is looking much more focused.

  • @UNCizme
    @UNCizme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Scend’s ness has so much swag I’m actually obsessed

  • @abghen2323
    @abghen2323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I think Marss would hands down be back in consistent top 8's if he picks up Pyra/Mythra. He said himself he feels like he'd enjoy the character but doesn't want to make other players experience the hell that is fighting Pythra. I think it's reminiscent of Nairo's switch to Palu/Seph

    • @redfieldwong717
      @redfieldwong717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Oh wow so virtuous😑
      Dood he's had PLENTY of time adopting and practicing another character but he doesn't. So logically speaking it's his fault for not adapting to his environment. Everyone needs second or third mains.

    • @abghen2323
      @abghen2323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@redfieldwong717 I don't understand your logic. He hasn't switched characters therefore that's why he's falling behind because ZSS is limiting his potential.

    • @cwas0nt400
      @cwas0nt400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ZSS is literally better than Pythra but ya'll don't wanna hear it 🤷‍♂️

    • @abghen2323
      @abghen2323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@cwas0nt400 That is a very bold take, Mythra has to work way less in neutral due to large disjoints, comparable speed to ZSS, and simple high damage true-combo routes that ZSS doesn't have. Then Pyra has absurdly good kill power while ZSS has Bair, Upsmash and UpB exclusively pretty much unless you start getting into her more conditional setups. Pyra Mythra are somewhere top 3 while ZSS is arguably barely in top 10/around top 20. Only thing ZSS has better is a good toolset for disadvantage state, but even then foresight and switching between the two Aegis allow for a good set of mixup potential in that state anyways

    • @carterdallon7400
      @carterdallon7400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      He'd be top 8 if he actually played to win outside of tournaments all I see him do is play elite smash

  • @marcof.5492
    @marcof.5492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Pro smash player DESTROYS content creator

    • @BakuraSTi
      @BakuraSTi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeahh. Marss fell off big time.

    • @andresa8209
      @andresa8209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very unfortunate

  • @WoahNowAreYouOkay
    @WoahNowAreYouOkay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    12:30 like bro what is that recovery. Marss is amazing, but cmon that is not ZSS’s fault he had been doing lazy recoveries the past like 3 interactions and just drifts onto stage instead of going to ledge or mixing it up

  • @Osmosis-jy6xp
    @Osmosis-jy6xp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    “Less than ideal hit boxes” excuse me have you seen ness’’ hit boxes? I didn’t know disjoints were stubby..

    • @Special_SSB
      @Special_SSB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Compared to "brawlers" they're disjointed but they absolutely lose to legitimate disjoints like swords, even trading with big hitboxes like Bowser fair is less than ideal for sure

    • @Osmosis-jy6xp
      @Osmosis-jy6xp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Special_SSB the commentator wasn’t talking about heavy mu or even sword mu he just said ness has less than ideal. He made it sound like his hit boxes were like piranha plant or something

    • @MetaGalacticSpace
      @MetaGalacticSpace 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Special_SSB are you saying his hitboxes should be more disjointed?

    • @Special_SSB
      @Special_SSB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MetaGalacticSpace nope, just that people overhype how disjointed they are when they're in fact pretty exploitable due to Ness's stats

    • @MetaGalacticSpace
      @MetaGalacticSpace 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Special_SSB I wouldn't call them exploitable. For what he is as a character, I think it's balanced

  • @ohcomeon1111
    @ohcomeon1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I guess the wifi against ness isn't the problem

    • @microdemon
      @microdemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      well said lmao

    • @ohcomeon1111
      @ohcomeon1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@microdemon people make so many excuses in this game when they lose

  • @freezeframeplease
    @freezeframeplease 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    imo it's weird seeing marss utilizing b reverses with snakes to drift away from danger but he completely forgets to use them with zss in panic situations. i know zss is more agile and have more options but there are quite good uses for b reverse for zss, her air mobility is fairly good.
    b reverse paralyzer is not so unsafe to use as a last resort when trying to land against a character like ness

  • @raftistrash9717
    @raftistrash9717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Happy belated birthday to marss

  • @Herfouch
    @Herfouch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what's Scend doing at the begining of the video? He's grabing something in his hands

  • @JJ-xe6wd
    @JJ-xe6wd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I love how they tried to fix the multi hit of dash attack for ness 🙃 but it still failed like 4 times this set

    • @AlbertoHernandez-nq9ys
      @AlbertoHernandez-nq9ys 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It kills early so it isn't that bad

    • @JJ-xe6wd
      @JJ-xe6wd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So does Marth's moves, but inconsistencies can make or break winning a game. In Marth's case, it makes him worse than lucina despite having better kill potential.

    • @Special_SSB
      @Special_SSB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@AlbertoHernandez-nq9ys 150 isn't early

    • @tdawg490
      @tdawg490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Special_SSB for a dash attack as fast and disjointed as ness has, yes it is

  • @midlowhigh
    @midlowhigh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think marss needs a new main. Idk if it’s just the nerfs, the content creation or the nerfs+ opponents zss matchup experience but he’s not been at that genesis 7 level since before quarantine. It really doesn’t make sense

    • @charliep9986
      @charliep9986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The nair nerf hurt. Lot of ZSS players in Japan resulted in the nerf. Japan tier list is weird though. Felt a little undue.

    • @Do_What1
      @Do_What1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He needs a new main or at least he needs to get a strong secondary. The nerfs + everyone has figured out the zss mu

    • @trombonegamer14
      @trombonegamer14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      These are close sets. Marss just needs to find his footing again after not competing for so long. He's clearly still got his spark of talent

    • @mattf5935
      @mattf5935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charliep9986 Both the nair nerf and the Up-B nerf hurt. A lot. Her hitboxes are very small and the additional lag on these just takes options off the table and makes these moves less reliable (up-B sees many more whiffs and fall outs now).

  • @duncanwalla7014
    @duncanwalla7014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Is scend bestness? Also, marss is my favorite player I don’t even care.

    • @frontseatdevil7831
      @frontseatdevil7831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yes - he goes by Scend now, but they’re the same person.

    • @10cesc4.
      @10cesc4. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes. Same guy

    • @bsmccrunner4
      @bsmccrunner4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah, he kept losing to other Ness’ so had to change it

    • @Agamemnonoverhead
      @Agamemnonoverhead 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      we do a little rebranding

  • @andressuarez2942
    @andressuarez2942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Marss really has to drop zss. Im sorry but its painful to watch her inconsistency.
    Edit: maybe not drop but find a secondary or a new main but keep zss as a co main.

    • @10cesc4.
      @10cesc4. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A man of culture. Súper agree. He’s only playing himself for sticking to her over snake or monke

    • @CharlieGreasby
      @CharlieGreasby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@10cesc4. monke power 😎

    • @davesnow7133
      @davesnow7133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s not so much zss but marss

    • @andressuarez2942
      @andressuarez2942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@davesnow7133 zss struggles against shields bc of her garbage grab and throws. After the nerfs she got like 3 frames more of landing lag in nair so its now -5 instead of a broken -2. Her up b got a frame more of startup so it got worse as an oos option which was good because of its speed but lacked range. Now you just have a decent shield pressure option and an oos options that works sometimes. Not to mention how much she has to work for the kill, she has to either land a back air, gimp with nair flipckick at the ledge, or land a down smash read to up b and hope the enemy doesnt fall out from the up b. So now you have a character that when works can beat everyone, but most of the time you struggle to get the kill and to punish shield.

    • @andressuarez2942
      @andressuarez2942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davesnow7133 i watched lea vs marss match, he played outstandingly well the last 2 games and i wish he played always like that but that isnt just likely to happen.

  • @Lark703
    @Lark703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought marss was still in the LCQ? He didn’t qualify in the na east tournament so how is he in the main event?

    • @twofeetunder7212
      @twofeetunder7212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He qualified last night

    • @lucasbush113
      @lucasbush113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They didn’t really finish LCQ, they just got to top 8 and then seeded those players into the pools

    • @Lark703
      @Lark703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lucasbush113 Ah ok. Thanks

  • @sbogan98
    @sbogan98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no up throw at 160%???

  • @sera8356
    @sera8356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    ness bair at center stage at 113-zss dead
    zzs bair on ledge 106-ness chillen in blast zone, god damn kids a constant hitbox

    • @malcolmfletcher2659
      @malcolmfletcher2659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zss sux, that's just the way it is.

    • @raven-a
      @raven-a 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ness is deceptively heavy, I play them both, and today I was playing Ness, and there was so many times I was like, shit, I'm dead, because I'm so used to ZSS, and then I just come back to stage like nothing happened, get a two Pk Fire combo and kill the dud 😂🎉

  • @NarcissistMargarine
    @NarcissistMargarine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm a marss fan but damn he's taking L's these days

    • @tdawg490
      @tdawg490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be fair he doesn’t practice 😭

  • @Frilleon
    @Frilleon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why did bestness change his name

    • @07XJuvi
      @07XJuvi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder this too.

    • @Frilleon
      @Frilleon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@07XJuvi his name is wack now

    • @asscrackb4ndit
      @asscrackb4ndit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cause he kept getting his ass handed to him by other Nesses

  • @jollama
    @jollama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So no one cares about the video freezing at points?

  • @jdrmanmusiqking
    @jdrmanmusiqking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At first i didnt like the change from BestNess to Scend but now i see why he did it
    This dude has aSCENDed from Elite Level Player to Demi-God. I remember him even taking MkLeo to game 5 at a tourney this year maaaaan he's been grinding!
    Within another year, I can see this man becoming an official Smash God in the near future keep it up dude im lookin forward to seeing you aSCENsion 😊

    • @realcourier20
      @realcourier20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think he grew out of the name BestNess. If it's true then it makes him sound douchy, if it's not true then it's just dumb.

    • @microdemon
      @microdemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@realcourier20 he's got a better mindset now.

    • @IGamingStation
      @IGamingStation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@realcourier20 To me, I guess calling yourself "BestNess" does make you sound like you're full of yourself. Not that he's not a good Ness main, but can he really say he's the best? I respect the name change though.

    • @joshx3778
      @joshx3778 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@realcourier20 or he just decided to change his name. Which is perfectly fair

    • @realcourier20
      @realcourier20 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshx3778 true. His exact quote was "the name doesn't motivate me like it used to"

  • @purple_roy2190
    @purple_roy2190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    i believe in Marss' ZSS

  • @WoahNowAreYouOkay
    @WoahNowAreYouOkay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I know we all think marss is top 10ish in the world and ZSS sucks, but alot of this set was not ZSS’s fault. Marss made weird committal mistakes and wasnt super patient imo. Theres like 2 consistent top players in this game. Its tough

    • @freaklord768
      @freaklord768 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      marss bad

    • @WoahNowAreYouOkay
      @WoahNowAreYouOkay 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@freaklord768 marss isnt bad, i just think the ZSS sucks thing is becoming very stupid

    • @DemonEyeHelix
      @DemonEyeHelix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WoahNowAreYouOkay More and more high level players are starting to agree with it. Some are even starting to put her at the bottom of top tier or even down to high tier.

  • @zacharyh5419
    @zacharyh5419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Marss needs to pick up Pythra so he can win sets without using so much as a brain cell

    • @redfieldwong717
      @redfieldwong717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She's not THAT brain dead😑
      Somewhat yeah, not completely.

    • @peepinlechien2560
      @peepinlechien2560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@redfieldwong717 on stream he said that he had a lot of fun playing friendlies with top players with Pythra. I can’t remember if he said that he won, but mentioned that the only reason he did not pick up the character was because he didn’t want to put his opponents through this pain

    • @malcolmfletcher2659
      @malcolmfletcher2659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Personally I'm happy he's not. Sure, sticking with ZSS isn't doing him any favors, especially when he's this rusty. But I gotta respect the commitment he has to ZSS and his resilience against just switching to a far better character. He's decided to take the harder but more satisfying road, and I think that's cool of him to do. A very Chad mindset.

    • @zacharyh5419
      @zacharyh5419 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@malcolmfletcher2659 I'd like to see him win with ZSS too but 33rd at mainstage and whatever placement this gets him makes that look unlikely

  • @MrBrotkuchen
    @MrBrotkuchen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    man why is it only on 360p, this game and these beautiful commentators cant be watched on low graphics

    • @nachot6592
      @nachot6592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Give it 10 minutes while it is encoded

    • @MrBrotkuchen
      @MrBrotkuchen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nachot6592 oh now I understand thx :)

  • @jonteguy
    @jonteguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just drop ZSS my guy, that character isn't well suited for S-tier tourneys at the moment.

    • @mustbmusty9054
      @mustbmusty9054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Uhh I mean most SSBU tier lists have ZSS in S tier so… idk if Marss is losing to pros who main characters in high-mid tiers (ZSS wins the Ness matchup btw) then it might not be his character pick that’s the issue

    • @whiskoo9941
      @whiskoo9941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mustbmusty9054 how tf does ness win the zss matchup when zss has no tools to stop his recovery, its no different as to why she struggles in the fox matchup, just not as much because fox out paces ness. What, because her puny 5% zair can sometimes stuff out the ness shorthop?
      I mean did you even watch the match? zss upb couldnt even punish ness dash attack and she dies because her drop ledge jump uair traded with ness dtilt, the stubbiest smallest hitbox to even be conceived outside of rest. zss sideb in the magnifier glass couldnt kill ness at 120%, and god knows how many bairs ness eats in the corner and continues to live, meanwhile zss eats a ness bair from center stage at 110% and dies no questions asked. youre out of your mind if you think that

  • @thelordoftheweebs9501
    @thelordoftheweebs9501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Back to content creation

    • @redfieldwong717
      @redfieldwong717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you've ever watched south park you just reminded of the
      "Back to the gay pile" joke😂

  • @sjceezy
    @sjceezy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ 3:38 ! Finally somebody said it. That shit drives me crazy lol!

  • @hallohallo3881
    @hallohallo3881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marss needs a new main, but at least he is under the best 100 players in the world 🤷‍♂️

  • @christianmerei6112
    @christianmerei6112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Agree with most people here about Marss not exactly being in his prime, but can we talk about how much harder ZSS has to work to score kills than Ness?

    • @Cadesworth
      @Cadesworth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bro this matchup sucks for Ness. I'm so happy Scend won haha

    • @lui1115
      @lui1115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      not true sorry, its the opposite, get your tier and matchup info correct.

  • @Call_Upon_YAH
    @Call_Upon_YAH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mars making Zss look like a low tier. What he does isn't really bad but when playing against other top players, he has to react and anticipate their next step, not play reactive/ common prediction. But that's how it feels playing a character who isn't as broken as everyone else. ZSS still has it a lot better than most every character considering her movepool, flexibility, and options.

  • @gravyhippo
    @gravyhippo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scend with the mints. Taking some inspiration from Gackt haha

  • @Bigcubefan
    @Bigcubefan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gogogo Spencer!

  • @kajin2422
    @kajin2422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Spoilers:
    Is Marss now Eliminated?

    • @Sancnea
      @Sancnea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not yet

    • @jzmetal69
      @jzmetal69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      (Wrong info, too lazy to change)
      No, this is group phase, only the one with the least points is gonna be eliminated, wich is Tomberry. Marss already guaranteed his place in the losers side of the main bracket.

    • @KingInferno3
      @KingInferno3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jzmetal69 don’t two players get eliminated from each group?

    • @jzmetal69
      @jzmetal69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KingInferno3 Yes, I just checked
      I got that wrong my bad!!

  • @oscarcalles4117
    @oscarcalles4117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Scend always with a clean cut.

    • @ivanzilla
      @ivanzilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha right

  • @Sae23b1
    @Sae23b1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is Marss out of this tournament? .-.

    • @hangryman7922
      @hangryman7922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Marss and lea have not fought yet, the winner gets into losers bracket and the loser is eliminated.

  • @amaikoori
    @amaikoori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Scend might be the best ness

    • @microdemon
      @microdemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he is

    • @Susinator-yn6ow
      @Susinator-yn6ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@microdemon I think you missed the joke, 2 possibilities here. Irony in that he obviously is the best ness, or that his old tag was bestness

    • @microdemon
      @microdemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Susinator-yn6ow did that on purpose to share what I think about him as a player lol

    • @Susinator-yn6ow
      @Susinator-yn6ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@microdemon oh, 👍

  • @Turnpost2552
    @Turnpost2552 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:43 my ringtone

  • @syunafrost351
    @syunafrost351 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So when marss wins his youtube followers are always shouting marss is the best player he's unstoppable but when dude loses suddenly zss is low tier and marss needs to find a new main cuz zss is such a "bad character" lmfao smash fans are more inconsistent than any fgc I know all these ppl do is blame wins and losses on the tier shit.

  • @HUTTB0LE
    @HUTTB0LE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My boy scend!

  • @SnaccHBG
    @SnaccHBG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marss should've asked for a selfie /s

  • @HaiBuddi
    @HaiBuddi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Games were close from my POV. These comments sound bitter

  • @MatthewLiguori
    @MatthewLiguori 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marss looking like MKLeo some of these games. On his game this tournament

    • @redfieldwong717
      @redfieldwong717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Comparing him to the actual #1 player. You make me laugh😂

  • @jdrmanmusiqking
    @jdrmanmusiqking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok who mans is this on the commentary?? Homie said Ness has stubby hitboxes like what the actual hell did i just hear?
    Ness is practically a sword character with those massive psychic disjoints lol smash commentators really be saying anything just to fill the air smdh
    Vicky mustve commentated somewhere else as well cause she is 1000% better than 99.9% of smash commentators ive heard keep doin your thing

    • @catpip_
      @catpip_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet actual swords have more than it

  • @KingInferno3
    @KingInferno3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love Marss, but let’s go Scend!

  • @sarukenishino7536
    @sarukenishino7536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the skillgap is insane between the two players. 1 of the 2 just has to hit like 4 skills to tack on 80%

  • @inarencommander4663
    @inarencommander4663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Marss washed?

    • @davesnow7133
      @davesnow7133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes

    • @engelsvladimir7727
      @engelsvladimir7727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very

    • @Nova-gs9oi
      @Nova-gs9oi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think so

    • @renmamamiya8840
      @renmamamiya8840 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think so, he hasn't really been taking tourneys seriously, I don't think. That's fine, but it kind of hurts to see someone who went from sweeping Leo at Genesis to losing to Scend, who's been doing his own tourney grinding as of late. Probably just a motivation issue nowadays.

    • @Nova-gs9oi
      @Nova-gs9oi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@renmamamiya8840 I agree to an extent I feel like marss also has had such a shake up since he went from being a super aggressive player to being more passive and it’s kinda hurting his play

  • @F3RAL3NTITY
    @F3RAL3NTITY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching ZSS lose ❤️🤤🥴

  • @morgydee
    @morgydee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He needs to close out those stocks when at high percent and in the lead, it happened at mainstage vs Muteace, happened vs Leo at Lowtide happened here vs Scend, Marss needs to take note of certain comfort options in the middle of the set and then only exploit them when he needs the kill, I know it's harder than it seems and I'm no top player, I'm just deliberating to hopefully help myself and anyone else who might care.
    ZSS doesn't struggle to kill but Marss does

    • @xTyeKing
      @xTyeKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She does struggle to kill.

    • @whiskoo9941
      @whiskoo9941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      you gonna sit there after watching game 2 of scend eating 2 bairs, a nair that doesnt even true combo into bair anymore, able to reset to neutral, eats an upb oos at 110, eating a side b in the literal magnifier glass afterwards, only to finally die after resetting to neutral and getting his jump hard read and tell me zss doesnt struggle to kill? Meanwhile marss dies to a bair at 110% center stage
      saw the exact same thing with inkling and no one wanted to point at flaws until cosmos had enough of a character that just doesnt have enough jank to keep her ahead of the game

    • @tdawg490
      @tdawg490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She definitely struggles to kill, especially against short floaty characters

  • @Cadesworth
    @Cadesworth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seeing Scend win this matchup 😌🥰

  • @KUWAITGRIPSVEVO
    @KUWAITGRIPSVEVO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Didn't Marss beat Leo at genesis? Nah that had to be someone else. This zss main is some washed up relic from smash 4, I don't get the hype

    • @Nova-gs9oi
      @Nova-gs9oi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Marss beat leo at genesis but also Zss was nerfed when Pyra and Mythra came out and the nerf wasn’t needed also as a Zss player it’s not that marss is a bad player by any means but everyone else also mains other really good characters but also since these offline tournaments are just coming back everyone’s probably struggling to learn the matchups also marss is also a significantly better player now then he was in smash 4

    • @KUWAITGRIPSVEVO
      @KUWAITGRIPSVEVO 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nova-gs9oi ok but marss is streaming more than practicing so he's not a top player anymore but still kinda ok I guess

    • @Nova-gs9oi
      @Nova-gs9oi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KUWAITGRIPSVEVO well personally I think it’s also due to the lack of good practice because New England has light hazmat and as far as I know those are really the only 2 people who marss can practice agsint

    • @Nova-gs9oi
      @Nova-gs9oi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KUWAITGRIPSVEVO something else to consider is that Zss as a character loses to a lot of matchups so marss is typically at a disadvantage most of the time

    • @KUWAITGRIPSVEVO
      @KUWAITGRIPSVEVO 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nova-gs9oi thats true but marss also plays alot of donkey kong and I can see the habits bleeding over to zss which he really needs to watch out for

  • @Bakered
    @Bakered 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn marss, like wtf

  • @MrDavethegenius
    @MrDavethegenius 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marss should focus only on Monkey Monday

  • @Ldmendez
    @Ldmendez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is not zss sux anymore is marss sucks now.

  • @futurfry
    @futurfry 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scend is such a bad tag

  • @Sidney_TSG
    @Sidney_TSG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trash match up no cap

  • @judex24
    @judex24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Best player marss #zsssucks.

    • @calebw8189
      @calebw8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Meanwhile the "not" best player MKLeo is winning super majors with mid-tier. Or are you being ironic?

    • @nachot6592
      @nachot6592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@calebw8189 he is.

    • @willycheez7218
      @willycheez7218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@calebw8189 Byleth ain't mid

    • @JackOLanter
      @JackOLanter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marss the OG of Smash!

    • @SingyBoi
      @SingyBoi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@calebw8189 bruh

  • @bsmccrunner4
    @bsmccrunner4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BestNess had to change his name 😂😂

    • @jonhnnyringo6770
      @jonhnnyringo6770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should’ve named himself carried by ness

    • @austin0898
      @austin0898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He still the best ness tho

    • @jonhnnyringo6770
      @jonhnnyringo6770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@austin0898 I think there’s a Japanese ness who’s better, I can’t remember his name

    • @matthewpipes018
      @matthewpipes018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jonhnnyringo6770 How is he "carried"? Or you just joking?

    • @jonhnnyringo6770
      @jonhnnyringo6770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewpipes018 I’m only slightly joking, he isn’t really good with any other character though so there is truth to it

  • @bsmccrunner4
    @bsmccrunner4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vikki is cringe sometimes

  • @peasinacan
    @peasinacan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ZSS can't kill

  • @Nicomartz52
    @Nicomartz52 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marss lose so like

  • @GodYesSatanNo
    @GodYesSatanNo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is a serious game, but with a lot of characters.