Motown & Funk Brothers Guitarist, Joe Messina - FULL INTERVIEW

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  • This interview was filmed in Detroit, MI on May 14, 2005. Joe was one of the most prolific guitarists in Motown Records' in-house studio bands, The Funk Brothers.
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  • @lightwayacoustics
    @lightwayacoustics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Dang. Never seen this video before of my papa. Thanks for sharing though. I’ll see him on Wednesday... people. He still plays as good as he did 50 years ago. My brothers and I watch him play a lot still at his house. He turns 92 this December and he looks the exact same as he does in this interview. Awesome.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for sharing this Adam... Tell Joe this Joe says hello.. I spoke to him on the phone about a month ago... he still sounds the same too... I still want to add one of his guitars in our Motown exhibit.. best... Joe(Chambers)

    • @MattyBEightyThree
      @MattyBEightyThree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m glad he’s well. I grew up listening to your papa on the radio

    • @jennifursun3303
      @jennifursun3303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hi from me too

    • @jennifursun3303
      @jennifursun3303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      adam who at your house plays piano and does your dad have any thoughts about who stole James jamersons bass

    • @123itisnotme
      @123itisnotme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are y'all any relation to country singer Jo Dee Messina?
      Back in the 90s when I lived in Detroit, before the internet was readily available, I did a lot of research, drove by important addresses, met different former Motown employees. This interview was a treasure!

  • @njoysuccessnow
    @njoysuccessnow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    He's an honest and humble guy. Just tells it exactly like it doesn't have a problem saying "i don't know." He is legendary.

  • @velainenagy9913
    @velainenagy9913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My uncle was Larry Veeder, guitarist. He played as a Funk Brother and with Joe Hunter. I assume he and Joe Messina would have known each other. We knew he had played with Jackie Wilson and Mary Wells. Uncle Larry would bring fellow musicians to our house after gigs, when I was a young child. I wish I knew who they were.

    • @thomashanks3255
      @thomashanks3255 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Velaine, how are you doing, i hope you had a great day. I'm Thomas from Virginia, just looking for new friend and i saw your pic here OK!
      Happy Mary Christmas.

  • @janfranklin6078
    @janfranklin6078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Joe, you're a national treasure to post these fascinating look-backs at history. Thanks so very much !

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hi Jan... Very kind of you to say this. It was my pleasure to make these interviews all these years for the museum. I used a little of a few of them in the museum but most have never been seen. I certainly never thought they could be seen by so many people when I made them. Thanks for watching and supporting our channel... Best....Joe

    • @rmelin13231
      @rmelin13231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I totally agree. Intelligent and insightful questions of the valuable people behind the scenes who don't always get the recognition they deserve. I enjoy this channel more than any other that I subscribe to. Thank you so much!!

  • @phillydogmahon1
    @phillydogmahon1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    R.I.P. Joe Messina. I was fortunate to see him play for The Funk Brothers in Manchester. His smile was radiant and will live with me forever. A fantastic guitarist and as much a part of the sound as James Jamerson.

  • @mcs4357
    @mcs4357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    My Dad, Don Slaughter, was a trumpet player and also a "Funk Brother". He played on many Motown sessions as well. My Dad has known Joe Messina since they were teenagers on the east side of Detroit.

    • @jennifursun3303
      @jennifursun3303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thanks dad

    • @regsmith7604
      @regsmith7604 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where at on the east side. I always lived on east side, from the black bottom to the North End, to Van Dyke & Charlevoix, to Nevada & Dequindre. Then I left at 18 and went to the military

    • @mcs4357
      @mcs4357 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@regsmith7604 Small world- I grew up on Dequindre btw State Fair & Lantz. Dad grew up on Crane St btw Forest & Canfield.

    • @regsmith7604
      @regsmith7604 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mcs4357 I went to Nolan Jr. High at one time, at 1150 E. Lantz. That school is still there. I used to walk to and from there, from Fleming & Minnesota Sts. Winters were bad! We used to walk on the side of the street with sun ☀️And, I had some cousins on my father’s side on Crane St., about 10-15 houses south of Mack.

    • @mcs4357
      @mcs4357 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@regsmith7604 I went to Nolan from 1968-1970, Pershing from 1970-1973.

  • @tomhunter965
    @tomhunter965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great interview.
    Joe Messina passed away on April 4, 2022, at the age of 93. That leaves percussionist Jack Ashford as the last survivor of the famous “Funk Brothers.”

    • @toyahill4151
      @toyahill4151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah Jack Ashford is the last Funk Brother alive gosh Joe Messina was a bad guitarist( in a good way) all of them so talented and knew their craft.

  • @mrDCunningham
    @mrDCunningham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Much like the feeling I had when I went to "Sun" before the tours. I had an almost "Holy" experience when I stood in the recording studio at Motown. I am so thankful and appreciative for this vault series Joe. 👍🏻😎

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching David... joe

    • @JohnKorvell
      @JohnKorvell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Holy" feeling describes it! I went to Memphis on business. Had the week end to myself. Stax. Sun. Beale St. The Delta. Gibson. I kept saying to myself "This is where American music came from. Blues. Rock. Soul. Pop There was the divine spark!"

  • @PNW_Fiddle
    @PNW_Fiddle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A mix of proud and humble. Great interview!

  • @thomasjdigennosr7370
    @thomasjdigennosr7370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If you ever get the chance,check Joes playing on The Soupy Sales show,1955,amazing jazz chops

  • @darrylchambers7801
    @darrylchambers7801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    RIP Joe M & all the Funk Bros...Thank all of you for putting great sounding music in our ears for all these years!!..I was sad to hear of Joe's passing on Apr 4 & this video was the 1st thing to come to mind when I heard..

  • @nellymoriarty_5783
    @nellymoriarty_5783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic history of Motown session players/jazz greatness like W. Coast Leon Russell Great Times where did the music go " on the road " 👣 Do It All

  • @tuskedbeast
    @tuskedbeast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fascinating musician, jovial guy. Also loved your well-expressed observation to one of the commenters about the workmanlike relationship to the music that the session men had. Another important piece of oral history. Good job.

  • @everly-shadystudios9900
    @everly-shadystudios9900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    "Standing in the shadows of Motown" is an awesome DVD for those who haven't seen it..Berry Gordy went to the Jazz part of Detroit took the best jazz players then went to the blues part of Detroit took the best blues players put them together and called them the Funk Brothers, they played on more number one hits then the Beatles-20 Elvis Presley-18 The Rolling Stones-8 and the Beach Boys-4 combined, they were a hit making machine who never got the recognition they deserve because they were always playing behind the curtan.. most people did not know who they were, And yes I'm glad to be a detroiter!

    • @delstanley1349
      @delstanley1349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      EVERLYSHADY STUDIOS>You mentioned B Gordy sought out musicians from the "jazz part of Detroit" and the "blues part of Detroit." Motown also sought out musicians from, I guess you could say the "classical part of Detroit," namely the Detroit Symphony Orchestra. Some of its members "moonlighted" on MANY recordings. I just wanted to give a shout out to those players who also made significant contributions, but were not always mentioned.

    • @everly-shadystudios9900
      @everly-shadystudios9900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@delstanley1349 absolutely brother!

    • @laj043
      @laj043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is a great DVD, but I wish they would have shown the entire live set instead of snippets.

    • @lornedey4040
      @lornedey4040 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@laj043 You can get the cd that has the entire performances. It's great!

    • @FriendofDorothy
      @FriendofDorothy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, it was "awesome" but it was also sad. Those musicians were not paid well at all, even for the times. Several had or developed addiction or alcohol problems. And when the label moved to L.A. some, if not most, were lost in the shuffle or did not want to leave Detroit. The Motown story is amazingly inspirational but remember the old saying printed on the Gordy singles? "It's What's in the Groove that Counts". There was joy and excitement and pop music magic in those grooves, but also tragedy. I was hoping this man would be more specific as to his favorite records to have played on, but appears he looked at the whole thing as just a gig. The Wrecking Crew was not as humble as these Motown cats.

  • @rogerwilliams2629
    @rogerwilliams2629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dang, it fascinates me to hear this. Can you imagine cutting all those records in a studio now, and the boss says "this amo is for all four of you guys, 3 guitarists and a bass? How many hits would come out now? LOL Hell, how many musicians could even do it?

  • @johnfilardi
    @johnfilardi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    An Italian playing Motown, who would of thunk it 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @kenpurdy1653
      @kenpurdy1653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Look at Vince Montana with TSOP!

  • @srercrcr
    @srercrcr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Berry had a wonderful ear. He built a company with that ear.

  • @stevevice9863
    @stevevice9863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    At that time, Detroit had one of the best corporate funded high school music programs in the country. The Big 3 Automakers were huge patrons of music in the high schools and created a great musical talent pool to draw from.

  • @ra15899550
    @ra15899550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Mr. Joe Messina for your contribution to the Funk Brothers and the distinctive Motown Sound. You guys were musical geniuses!!

  • @ag052976
    @ag052976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanx Joe for that insight. The guitars of Motown was so important in that music. Before. I actually found out there were 3 guitarists, I was trying to learn all of the parts. Your talent brought that extra spice to a track. Whether flamingo, jazz, or basic rhythm you filled out a song. Thanx for all of those tracks.

    • @arthritisankle
      @arthritisankle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The fact that they sometimes doubled the bass lines with guitar is interesting. Imagine trying to get that bass tone not realizing there was also a guitar on there.

  • @caveatemp
    @caveatemp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the upload. What a sweet guy!

  • @1aquinas
    @1aquinas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay, call me crazy. I’ve just finished watching the interview with Mr Messina. I loved his music. I cherish our few conversations. He is a living legend…and… a good man, real good man!

  • @pb12661
    @pb12661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ray Parker jr., in a recent interview, told the same story about playing thru that amp when he was at Motown.

  • @shaunw9270
    @shaunw9270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent interview , nice guy . Btw that Jazzmaster neck is '66/'67 due to block inlays & transition Fender logo 👍

    • @stupendousmusic4190
      @stupendousmusic4190 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I visually dated it as a '66 due to the reasons you've stated, but also because the neck is bound and the tuners are double row Klusons. By 1967 there would have absolutely been F Tuners (made by Shaller) on the neck. The Jaguar and the Jazzmaster being the top of the line were always the first to have the latest "updates."

    • @wintonhudelson2252
      @wintonhudelson2252 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would have to agree with Joe. I feel the Jazzmaster neck fits my hand better than a tele neck....personal choice, as not everyone would agree.

  • @keyscook
    @keyscook 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic & historical... What a great player and person. Thanks for posting these interviews - I love it!

  • @CoverStoryDooWop
    @CoverStoryDooWop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    what a humble guy, and he played such an important part in music history. I like that elephant story, and I thought I heard every excuse in the book. Thank you for posting.

  • @sapelesteve
    @sapelesteve 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Fantastic interview Joe! I would love to have heard some of the stories that Joe Massina couldn't discuss in front of a camera. He definitely had to be an amazing guitar player or they never would have kept him playing on those sessions. Listening to him talk about his experiences during those motown sessions, you can tell how much he enjoyed every minute of it. What a great guy! Thanks for posting this interview.....

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi Steve.... Yes Joe is a very nice man not to mention musician. One of the most pleasant people I’ve ever known.
      Thanks as always for your supporting us.... Best, Joe

    • @oldermusiclover
      @oldermusiclover 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      mee too and mee three

  • @andrewjmcgee
    @andrewjmcgee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amazing!

  • @elpadresuerte
    @elpadresuerte 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wooow! thank you MHFM!!! My dad got me "standing in the shadows of motown" when I was 12. Loved it. This is great!

  • @jennifursun3303
    @jennifursun3303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OOH TO HAVE BEEN THERE would so love to meet Mr Joe

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Jennifur.... Yes Mr.Joe is now 90 years old... maybe more:) but looks and sounds the same... Joe

  • @pbenson56fran
    @pbenson56fran 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I just looked at the day of this. Joe took good care of himself. Sometimes that does not happen in music.

    • @jennifursun3303
      @jennifursun3303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      well it helps to have not been a boozer or a druggy

    • @pbenson56fran
      @pbenson56fran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jennifursun3303 That is true.

  • @rogelioandersen5842
    @rogelioandersen5842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    RIP Joe Messina. It was a good run for a good guy.

  • @nativenuyorker8878
    @nativenuyorker8878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Motown would have been above average without the great talented Funk Brothers. They made Motown great, memorable, extraordinary🤩 You know a Motown song from just the first few chords before any of the fabulous vocals. Put the vocals and wonderful music together you have greatness! History! They should have all been millionaires!

  • @edcherry9282
    @edcherry9282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Weird that he didn’t hang out with the musicians he played with for years, or keep in touch...

    • @jennifursun3303
      @jennifursun3303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he keep in touch with the late Eddie Willis

    • @geraldjensen9399
      @geraldjensen9399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When Motown moved to LA in 1972 the musicians were left behind, some moved to LA on their own, Jamerson for instance, Bob Babbit moved to NY - New Jersey cut Midnight Train to Georgia and played sessions at Sigma Sound in Philly. Some scrounged for work in Detroit. Still others quit the music business and found other ways to make a living. They were all grown men with families and bills to pay, life and responsibilities.

    • @toodie535
      @toodie535 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geraldjensen9399 the doc about the house band 'Standing In The Shadows Of Motown', brought surviving members of the Funk Brothers together for a Detroit concert in the 90's.

  • @pensatorseven1898
    @pensatorseven1898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great interview.

  • @efhs1970
    @efhs1970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Another great interview, what a great sense of humor, keep em coming!💫

  • @jward9637
    @jward9637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The same thing was going on at Muscle Shoals, and in California with the "Wrecking Crew". Great musicians and lots of hits.

    • @melvinpruitt3907
      @melvinpruitt3907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True,also at Stax Records with Booker T and the Mg's and Philadelphia's TSOP.....all great in their own right. 🎸🎷🎻🎺🥁📯🎶🎵🎼

    • @milanfernandez1667
      @milanfernandez1667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Carol kaye was the backbone of the wrecking crew..

    • @stupendousmusic4190
      @stupendousmusic4190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And in New York too!

    • @stupendousmusic4190
      @stupendousmusic4190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@milanfernandez1667 So she would have you think or believe; not to take from her in any way.

    • @jennifursun3303
      @jennifursun3303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      very true

  • @alanwann9318
    @alanwann9318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was 17 yrs old in the early sixties,I started noticing Motown records at our local hop ,the bass lines caught my ear as I was learning bass guitar .

    • @cudaus1
      @cudaus1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Great James Jamerson! He wrote the book for many Bass players.

    • @steviedepaoli2717
      @steviedepaoli2717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great interview. Asked a lot of interesting questions. Timeless music!

  • @thescatman5029
    @thescatman5029 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peace on, Sir.....!

  • @zororosario
    @zororosario 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These guys are the best at what they do, I remember Motown tunes back from the 60s and learned a lot listening to these Cats..
    '

  • @sandrasanders706
    @sandrasanders706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always wanted to hear from Mr. Messina...awesome interview!

  • @Joe-mz6dc
    @Joe-mz6dc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome. Good stuff Joe!

  • @adrianlyord5300
    @adrianlyord5300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rest In Peace ☮️ and thank you for sharing your talent with the entire world 🌎 and I appreciated your talent Joe Messina.

  • @alanthompson3493
    @alanthompson3493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Jazzmaster neck on Joe's Tele should have the date of manufacture stamped on the end of the neck heel, if he ever wants to verify the year it was made.
    Great info in this video, and Joe seems like a cool guy!.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Alan... thanks for watching and supporting our channel. I thought the neck was a 66 too with the logo and it didn’t have the “F” tuners they started in 68. Are you a vintage collector? Best, Joe

  • @dannycorser
    @dannycorser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ive become friends with Joe ! He's so Nice He plays Jazz Everyday and still SO GOOD ! We talk often and I treasure every minute !

  • @williamwalsh6282
    @williamwalsh6282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All the guitarists for the Funk Bros were great ... has anyone heard of “little” Billy Cooper he is given credit for playing on one of the 1st Temps albums All Directions. Joe (as well as Eddie Willis) is also given credit as guitarist on this album. He has changed his name to Wali Ali but is still very active in Boston, an amazing guitarist and vocalist. Thanks for a great interview.

  • @kevingavigan7883
    @kevingavigan7883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rip, Mr. Messina. Your guitar work was essential for the sessions in which you participated, especially the songs where your guitar playing doubled James Jamerson's basslines, as can be heard on Martha Reeves & The Vandellas "Dancing In The Street" and Marvin Gaye/Tammi Terrell "Your Precious Love", as well as many of the Holland-Dozier-Holland songs, such as Four Tops The "I Can't Help Myself (Sugar Pie Honey Bunch)" and "Reach Out I'll Be There", and The Supremes "Stop! In The Name Of Love" and "The Happening". Your passing leaves percussionist Jack Ashford as the last surviving member of The Funk Brothers, although many of The Funk Brothers's associates, such as Dennis Coffey and Paul Riser, are still alive. Regardless, you'll be forever missed. Rest in peace.

  • @pskemster
    @pskemster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tele with a jazz master Neck. Now that’s something you don’t see every day.

  • @robertstotts2343
    @robertstotts2343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Joe for this channel respect... The neck 66 or 67 im saying curious on the body year..i could listen to hours of this.. I want to know abut his TV gig before Motown.. I wish they all would give stories and info on their nightclub gigs.. These guys lived in another world.. Respect to this channel... More more more

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Robert,
      Google Soupy Sales... it will tell you all about the T.V show Joe played on in Detroit. Thanks for watching.... Best, Joe

    • @robertstotts2343
      @robertstotts2343 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MusiciansHallofFameMuseum yes sir i know that i just wish he went in depth with stories of it all more i wish there was a documentary or interviews about the nightclub gigs the funk brothers did while doing Motown.. I could listen to hours. Your channel with these interviews is the best direct source of information from these musicians i have found. Thank you for this channel respect

  • @melvinpruitt3907
    @melvinpruitt3907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a great personality as well a great musician. And the food comment lol i'm assuming it must have really been good!!

    • @bholaoates1542
      @bholaoates1542 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was he talking about visiting the White House when he said that? By the way, which president was he talking about, Bush or Obama?

  • @dadduorp
    @dadduorp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been able to find (online) that Messina played on; Martha & The Vandellas' “Dancing In The Street”, The Four Tops', “I Can’t Help Myself” and Marvin Gaye's “Your Precious Love”, but what other early 60's Motown tunes did he play on?

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Dadduorp..... I would imagine most all of them since he was there from the start. Thanks for watching and your comments..... Best....... Joe

    • @oldermusiclover
      @oldermusiclover 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he played the intro to the song Do You LOve Me

  • @MrBobNLinda
    @MrBobNLinda 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching "Standing in the Shadows of Motown", I have seen at least 2 of the "Funk Brothers", as well as Martha Reeves mention working with the "Levi Mann Trio" in Detroit. I can find very little about Levi Mann online, although he was obviously highly respected by formerly unnamed people who played on the "sound track of my life". I actually played a gig with the Levi Mann Trio at age 18, in Traverse City, MI circa 1970. At the time, I knew NOTHING of his stature in the music scene and I would love to learn more about him and the other members of the group. Can anyone help me out?

  • @hotfirecaster
    @hotfirecaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic! Great to ear the story!!!
    Thanks from Paris France.

  • @SIRONEDRAGON
    @SIRONEDRAGON 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great interview Joe... thanks for posting this !!

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Sirone...... More coming in next few days. Best..... Joe

    • @SIRONEDRAGON
      @SIRONEDRAGON 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MusiciansHallofFameMuseum Many thanks Joe !!!

    • @howardlloyd7488
      @howardlloyd7488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great interview very interesting how they played and recorded those fantastic tracks. Love the hybrid Tele \ jazzmaster.

  • @JohnKorvell
    @JohnKorvell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We lost a great today, Joe!

  • @anthonyc1883
    @anthonyc1883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Enjoyed this interview but I find it...well, odd, and I hope that doesn't offend anyone. Joe Messina is a historic player, and certainly an affable/agreeable man, but in the entire 24 minute interview, he mentions two performers: Marvin Gaye and Holland-Dozier-Holland. He was at ground zero...think about that, literally taking part in the birth of some of the most defining American music ever recorded, yet he pleasantly admits he didn't really know what tunes he played on, says he never really knew his fellow players, etc. And yes, I heard him say Motown wasn't his main gig, but still. Even if was all a blur when it was happening, and even if it was "just a job" as he says, all these decades later the music has been burned into the American experience and it almost seems like Mr. Messina is talking about some other guy. But thank you for this interview.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hi Anthony...First thank you for watching and supporting our channel. I appreciate your heart felt observations and I understand why you may feel the way you said but I have to say Joe’s interview is not unlike many studio musicians I’ve known and interviewed for the last 16 years. There was a hand full of musicians in each of the most historic musical cities like Detroit, Nashville, N.Y , Muscle Shoals, L.A etc..... They played on thousands of recording sessions each. I know many players who recorded over 40,000 songs in their career. Often they never heard the lyrics or even knew the song title. They just played what was in front of them often called number five or number 7. Months later they may hear them on the radio and recognize the part they played and say “Oh , that was what I was playing on.” Lots of Beach Boys recordings was like this.Long story short most of these great session players can’t tell you all the songs they recorded. Like most people probably can’t tell you exactly what they did at work 30 or 40 years ago, neither can they. It is kinda hard to believe for those of us who loved that music and it was such a big part of our lives growing up that the players who often created it don’t share the same feelings but at the time it was a job that put food on their tables and clothed their families. Thanks again for watching us........ Best, Joe

    • @OriginalOldSkoolFunk
      @OriginalOldSkoolFunk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MusiciansHallofFameMuseum Awesome insight. Thanks for posting.

    • @keithgilliard9191
      @keithgilliard9191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anthony C That’s what’s unique about making History....at that time he didn’t know it would be ground breaking.....it was a job....

    • @anthonyc1883
      @anthonyc1883 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keithgilliard9191 Not in that moment of creation, sure, but how long did it take before all those records were being blasted all over the country? And so many of them over the years. This is not a long game of history we're talking about here, requiring decades or generations for things to come into focus, by which time the original details become fuzzy.. You cut a record at Motown and it could become the soundtrack of an entire summer for people around the nation just weeks later. And again. And again. Anyway, it is what it is. Thanks for your reply. I appreciate Joe from the Musicians Hall of Fame for replying above, too. I decided not to respond because there's really no further debate, I suppose. The way it happened is the way it happened. But I still find it very confounding.

    • @MrSteves123
      @MrSteves123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know what you mean, Anthony. I've known Joe for many years and have asked him the same thing many different ways. The thing that gets lost in looking back is that most the sessions were done with just the musicians in the studio. No singers, no strings and playing direct into the board (no amps in the room). They spent maybe an hour on a tune (they did roughly 3 a day), which often didn't have titles, and then moved on to the next one. So it may seem shocking that Joe doesn't know if he played on a tune that we have heard our entire lives, but often, he never heard the lyrics, saw the title or heard it again after the session.

  • @kennethspears22
    @kennethspears22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He and Jack Ashford are the 2 last surviving members of The Funk Brothers.

    • @horizontoday7874
      @horizontoday7874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is Jack Ashford related to Rosalind Ashford?

  • @jennifursun3303
    @jennifursun3303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you hear the song Do You Love Me that is Joe at the beginning

    • @darrylchambers7801
      @darrylchambers7801 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love the way Joe makes his guitar sound like a Mandolin

  • @douglasmijangos3327
    @douglasmijangos3327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He was the Eminem of Motown 😂

  • @Barnekkid
    @Barnekkid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting interview, and such a congenial man. I wish he had played his guitar.

  • @ReneAlexisPenalozaMunoz
    @ReneAlexisPenalozaMunoz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Such well humored gentleman. A pleasure to listen to his stories.

  • @flaviocalichmansp-brasil6958
    @flaviocalichmansp-brasil6958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joe Messina was an amazing musician and a great guy! Thanks you for so many beautiful songs and so many good memories!

  • @martinheath5947
    @martinheath5947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a treat. Love hearing these stories from behind the scenes. Lovely fella Thanks for this!

  • @JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION
    @JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Detroit was a big "Gospel' music town before Motown. Most Black singers came out of the Church..

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True.... so many players and singers came and still come from the church.
      Best....... Joe

  • @leeholzmann1023
    @leeholzmann1023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    great stuff joe , he seems like a funny guy himself but the story about the elephant really cracked me up ...

  • @cigdamagelungs
    @cigdamagelungs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great,especially about hearing him play with the great jj

  • @BrianKlobyGuitar
    @BrianKlobyGuitar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool interview... Thanks :)

  • @vincentestone5764
    @vincentestone5764 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Amazing JOE MESSINA. 8:45 The Musicians Names were NOT put on the records or the "jacket" because They would be due ROYALTIES for those songs or albums.

  • @fuzzybutkus8970
    @fuzzybutkus8970 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mark Farner of Grand Funk said it best.”Michigan people do two things incredibly well Build cars and play guitars” Rock and Roll hall of fame being in Cleveland is a joke.From the MC5 to Alice Cooper,Ted Nugent to Iggy and the stooges.Not to mention the Motown thing.

  • @baldbassclef
    @baldbassclef 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One the Greats!!!!!

  • @michaelhorton1350
    @michaelhorton1350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the production comments and ‘shop talk’ on arrangements, even to chord choices, voicings, and what almost anyone else would call totally irrelevant trivia.
    But shure would be nice to get into the heads.

  • @brendaniebel1355
    @brendaniebel1355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amen, berry gordy, amen. If we could turn back time.

  • @Paul_305
    @Paul_305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love this series.

  • @seanpop2886
    @seanpop2886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I met Joe and his wife a few times, she was wheelchair bound the first time I met her. Sure, I didn't know their home life, but he really showed his devotion publicly.
    He was really kind to me straight up as a musician and as a fan.
    To think, I think Joe might be the final surviving Funk Brother. (No, not googling it.)

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Sean.... yes Joe is a very kind person. I think you’re right... he is one of maybe two original Funk Brothers still living. Best........ Joe

    • @Bridging_the_Political_Divide
      @Bridging_the_Political_Divide 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jack Ashford is still alive. But they are the last 2 for sure.

    • @lightwayacoustics
      @lightwayacoustics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes. My papa is still alive. I’ll see him this week. He turns 92 this December.

    • @jennifursun3303
      @jennifursun3303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bridging_the_Political_Divide true

    • @jennifursun3303
      @jennifursun3303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lightwayacoustics wow he looks so good for his age except for Vin. Scully and Brian Wilson i would love to meet your dad the most got to talk to the late Eddie Willis and he loved your dad

  • @ronpippin1084
    @ronpippin1084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m glad he cleared up the story of the studio closing abruptly. I really felt bad for those guys even though it was I good while ago, but it’s nice to know that in reality they were given a month’s notice,

    • @tanukibrahma
      @tanukibrahma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've heard that some were told but others didn't know

    • @jennifursun3303
      @jennifursun3303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      me too i also had heard that they didn't know either

    • @ronpippin1084
      @ronpippin1084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jennifursun3303 Well, I heard that too actually after I posted my comment . Apparently not all of them knew because some showed up to work only to find that it was closed. What a shame. Sadly it still happens, not just in the music business, but in general. A lot of times even business managers are unaware their company is closing its doors. That’s just cruel and unfair I think, regardless of the reasons. I hate to see that happen to good hard working people.

    • @oldermusiclover
      @oldermusiclover 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronpippin1084 had that happen up here where i live they did that with a CVS store and never told the employee I agree about it not being fair

  • @jonathaneffemey4892
    @jonathaneffemey4892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP Joe.

  • @jrpipik
    @jrpipik ปีที่แล้ว

    Almost any region in the nation has the raw talent in musicianship and composition to be another Motown, but you need the vision, drive, and imagination of someone like Gordy to make it happen.

  • @pbenson56fran
    @pbenson56fran 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love love love love. I have the video and I've watched it many times over the years since I purchased the DVD.

  • @voodoochile3201
    @voodoochile3201 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A legendary gifted GUITARIST!!🎸

  • @denniscraven8438
    @denniscraven8438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Joe for all this! Just thank you. My wife n I are going to make a pilgrimage to Nashville to visit your museum.

  • @deweywatts8456
    @deweywatts8456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was a job, but it turned out to be the good one!

  • @music_works
    @music_works 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if he used flatwound strings too?

  • @delstanley1349
    @delstanley1349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sure Detroit was a pool of talented musicians, BUT in America there were great musicians, singers and composers throughout the land. The Philly and Memphis sounds for example and places like Chicago were hotbeds, especially Philly. I suspect if there was a Berry Gordy like music mogul that emerged in Atlanta, Houston, or Dallas in those days we would have heard quite amount of talent coming out of the church woodworks, blues bars, and juke joints from those places, and it would have seemed so concentrated, like Nashville pickers. We would have marveled and said "wow, how did so much talent get in one place?" Well, someone brought out the talent in those places, like Gordy did for the locals in Detroit and it can give the illusion that single places had a monopoly on talent when in fact lots of other places did too. They just weren't trying because no one there were encouraging them to be full time creative.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Del..... I’m sure you’re right....but there were other places... Atlanta had Bill Lowery... he had Ray Stevens, Joe South, Billy Joe Royal, jerry reed, The Atlanta rhythm section,Alicia Bridges ( I love the night life) Sammy Johns( Chevy Van) etc.... Muscle Shoals Alabama had Fame Studio and Muscle Shoals sound studios... way too many hits to mention but the session players known as the Swampers were there and not only the home grown singers like Percy Sledge were there but everyone from The Osmond Brothers to the Rolling Stones recorded hit records there using local talent.So... I’m agreeing with you... America had talented people in every corner and it still amazes me how great so much of that music was and still is. Thanks for watching and your comments..., Best... Joe

  • @williamwalsh6282
    @williamwalsh6282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great musical history... I met a guitarist from Detroit who lives in Boston now. He played on the 1st Temp album and many other recording as well as being in the road band for Marvin, Gladys, Jackson Five ....His name then I think was Billy Cook his name now is Wali Ali... he is really great. Does Mr Messina remember Billy Cook he played the guitar upside down and backwards

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi William.... The main guitarist for Motown were Eddie, Robert and Joe. There were a couple more in the later Detroit years Dennis Coffey and Wah Wah Watson... Even Neil Young in earlier years but I’ve never heard of Billy Cook. Joe never mentioned him either. I’m sure many players had a chance to play on certain artist recordings over the years but not enough to make a name for themselves. Thanks for watching.. Best...Joe

    • @williamwalsh6282
      @williamwalsh6282 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for answering ... now that i have been thinking about it his name might have been Billy Cooper... he told be he played on the Papa Was a Rolling stone Album... his name is on the Album Cover (either Cook or Cooper). He went out to Cali when Motown moved there. Such an interesting period, like Muscle shoals w so factors just coming together somehow.

  • @SavoPaddy
    @SavoPaddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Made my day finding this. Thanks for posting.

  • @curtispetitt4430
    @curtispetitt4430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "No music, just chord sheets" That's how you bring the beauty and creativity out of the session musicians.

  • @morrisman64
    @morrisman64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Content

  • @darrellm250
    @darrellm250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Benny and Pistol! Two of my favorite drummers!

  • @stupendousmusic4190
    @stupendousmusic4190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Joe:
    Thank you so much for posting this! You know I've been waiting for this for a long time.
    I'm 99% certain that Joe's Jazzmaster neck is from 1966. The Telecaster control plate needs to be opened up so see what year the potentiometers are from. I don't think he would want us to look under the pickups for dates; and he probably wouldn't want the neck taken off to check the neck date.
    Despite what he said, there is one modification: the standard 3 saddle Telecaster bridge was replaced by a Fender 6 saddle Telecaster. This was done for more precise intonation. I read an interview about where he mentioned this some years back; furthermore, this is easily be confirmed
    by looking at photographs of Joe playing this one of a kind instrument. I've often wondered if the finish is original, as I've never seen a '60s era Fender in this color, whether new or faded; perhaps it is faded.
    Something important Joe's sound is the extreamely heavy strings that he uses: LaBella Heavy Gauge flat-wounds, known as the Jazz Flats 20-PH: .015 .019 .025 .033 .044 .056. Yea; on a Tele!!! (Most sets like this would be .013 017.) All of the Motown guitarists used LaBella flat-wounds.
    After plugging into the common amp, the guitars and Jamerson's bass were often run through a Fairchild 660.
    Joe was supposedly a very good businessman. I read that he became a multi millionaire by investing in car washes throughout Detroit.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Stu.... Thanks for your support and info about the guitar.... I think the finish is original. It looked that way when I played it after I finished the interview. If Joe was a multi millionaire he didn’t live like it. He had a very normal, very middle class home very well kept. Much like my parents house.That says a lot about him and many people of his age that lived through the depression and WW 2. Not showy... Just real down to earth people. I respect Joe greatly too for staying home... again like my Father , and took care of his invalid wife. ........ Best, Joe

    • @stupendousmusic4190
      @stupendousmusic4190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MusiciansHallofFameMuseum I really hope to meet him one day.

    • @cudaus1
      @cudaus1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I lived in the Detroit area most of my life. I must say I never heard the car wash story.

    • @stupendousmusic4190
      @stupendousmusic4190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cudaus1 Just something I read. I think it was in the "Standing In The Shadows of Motown" book. Could be inaccurate information. 🤔

    • @lightwayacoustics
      @lightwayacoustics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stu Pendous Music dang. You did your hw. I still work at the Carwash. My papas been retired of the Carwash business for a long time now. And no he’s no multi millionaire. And if he is. That’s news to me because he doesn’t act like it at all. He’s super modest. My papas been like that his whole life. But I’ll be seeing him on Wednesday. His guitar(s), are always sitting in his living room. He still plays the same way he did 50 years ago. He’s incredible. Thanks for the positive comments.

  • @olesolja1407
    @olesolja1407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Met Joe in Bonn Germany during the Standing in the Shadow of Motown. My wife (Sicilian) and I walked back to the bus with him and Joe Hunter.. That must have the last tour for the FB’s European Standing in the Shadows of Motown tour. It was such a cool experience. I got a chance to get on stage and sing My Girl. Bob Babbitt was on bass, Uriel on drums. Ed Willis was there. Cool Jack Ashford and Billy Preston was on the scene. A really GREAT experience.

    • @jennifursun3303
      @jennifursun3303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lucky you oh lucky you

    • @olesolja1407
      @olesolja1407 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jennifursun3303 lucky indeed.

  • @keithwaites9991
    @keithwaites9991 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joe messina

  • @buzzsmith8146
    @buzzsmith8146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great. Loved the photo of the in house guitar(s)/bass amp that fed the console.

  • @fredjones1238
    @fredjones1238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thats crazy to hear they never keeped in touch

  • @douglasmijangos3327
    @douglasmijangos3327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s crazy how music is .. Motown then the British Invasion.. Grunge .. you get these bursts of amazing talent in music .. but it rarely happens..

  • @bobc.5698
    @bobc.5698 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It sounds comparable to The Laurel Canyon Scene. Out of nowhere dozens of bands congregate (from all over) in one small area of L.A. Clubs spring up to play in, record labels are started, F.M. radio is invented in one place and time.

  • @patrickostrom2762
    @patrickostrom2762 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine you just got putting down and finishing dock of the bay a short time later Otis Redding gone! I wonder if Steve had thoughts of I could been on that plane! And hearing that song on air wave's right after crash! Hey Joe your interviews food for thought within the mind!

  • @a2zme
    @a2zme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another terrific video .. thanks Joe :)
    #theMasters

  • @1rwjwith
    @1rwjwith 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing details! Thanks for your site great.

  • @nicko6710
    @nicko6710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great documenting

  • @DetroitLives313
    @DetroitLives313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some of the best people come from Detroit...........

    • @Bridging_the_Political_Divide
      @Bridging_the_Political_Divide 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      All the best.

    • @denny6281
      @denny6281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a born and bred Detroiter I can honestly say, Detroit is a great place to be from. Far from, Ha!

    • @bholaoates1542
      @bholaoates1542 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@denny6281 haha Now _that_ was funny.