What Really Happened on Fireball Ohio State Fair July 26th 2017?
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- After a gondola suddenly detached from the pendulum ride called Fireball at the Ohio state fair on July 26th 2017 many were confused and scared. But what really caused this accident and what has been done since?
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-Accident Report
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KMG's Report
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-CPSC Warning
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-AOA Interviews
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-Injury Statistics
www.ohiosenate.gov/senators/b...
-Tyler's Law
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Fun fact, I was there at the very time this happened. Me and a buddy’s were about to go up on those carousel swing type rides when we noticed police officers running towards the direction of the ride. We didn’t think anything of it. We had rode fireball 15 MINUTES before this happened, so yeah. We got lucky
Holy hell, dude. You dodged a freaking bullet!
Oh my god that's terrifying, you and your friend are super lucky
oh my god i cant imagine how scary that must've been
i was there too!! me and my sister were gonna ride it before it happened but i pussied out, bout 30 mins later or so we see a big crowd around the ride. i remember my bf at the time thought i was in the accident cuz i wasnt getting his calls since the service sucks at the fair grounds. so scary
Dodge a bullet
I have to say that Governor DeWIne actually made a good move with the requiring state inspectors to have a background in engineering thing.
If you worked in the industry you'd know it wasn't needed. They needed better testing and inspection rules, but added that in to sligh the "lame" inspector who didn't catch something he never would have without the correct tools. They had shit inspection protocol, it just that. No engendering background gives you the ability to see rust through metal and if they aren't given the okay and equipment to test for it, they won't find it.
@@modernwar2ghostrp Engendering?
I think you mean engineering?
@@maximaldinotrap you really don't see that that's obvious?
Separately, yeah, that bit might have been just for political credit, "never let a good crisis go to waste" as they say
@inyrui Totally depends on if it was 3mm rust, or 3mm metal left after the rust. You can not poke a hole with your finger through 3mm of metal. You ain't doing shit to 3mm of metal.
@@modernwar2ghostrp spot the mad ex inspector
Me: minding my own business
TH-cam: “What really happened on Fireball at the Ohio State Fair on July 26 2017?”
Me: “What DID really happen on Fireball at the Ohio State Fair on July 26, 2017?”
me too
Lol. Me. 😂
@@xkristixx Kristi whats ur snap
@@richardhendrix8652 When you see a girl in a comment
@@unteaxe whats ur snap
I'm glad Tyler's law was put in place. I hope it helped his family in their grief. However, people never seem to remember that the young woman who was also severely injured, died about a year later from complications from the fall. According to the news, she had been hospitalized the whole time (or much of it). So, 2 people were killed in this accident, not just one.
Not from the fall it was from the failures of the new adjustments of the bones so still only 1
@@Idropkickchildrentomars but she wouldn’t have needed them if not for the accident
@@Idropkickchildrentomars Idiot...
@@Idropkickchildrentomars bad logic. Troll.
@@Idropkickchildrentomarslets settle on 1.5
Interesting that people are always afraid that the restraint will come loose. Not that the ENTIRE SEAT WILL DETATCH! 😨
*Entire section containing FOUR seats
That’s always my thinking. I find it way more terrifying being STUCK inside.
Having been on a ride where the restraint came loose and I just held onto the seat, definitely a more dangerous option I guess
I don't do amusement rides that leave the ground period. Too much human error exists in this world. Unless it's solid steel count me out.
I always think of both. Simply getting on the ride is like expecting a freak accident, but for me, that’s part of the thrill.
Just to make it clear this sort of accident is a freak one and not as common as the media makes out
Scott 1 I didn’t mean that rust is a freak thing am talking about the gondola coming clean off things like that don’t happen often at in fact in the many years my family has owned and operated fairground rides in Scotland I’ve never seen anything like this happen and yes this is definitely avoidable and shouldn’t of happened but I’d but the blame on the ride inspectors and the manufacturer
@Scott 1 it's completely avoidable with the company actually taking proper care to prevent rust and/or actually inspecting for rust before sending the unit into service. Had the company done it's due diligence this ride probably would have never been put into operation with how much rust was present.
You could say that it was a poor engineering flaw in the design of the arm to allow water to pool inside. But again it's up to the company who owns to equipment to look for that.
Scary none the less.
But it's not gerenteed to NOT happen
Mayhem
Its not garateed that earth wont be hit by a meteor tomorrow either.
My cousin’s relative was on this ride with her boyfriend. He broke his leg and she was hit in the head with debris. She had complications with head trauma after that and she unfortunately died a year later :(
its weird how nobody mentions her
im so sorry 😞
Abigail Workman im so sorry to hear that not joking. If my sister Kayda and her boyfriend Mason did this i can not imagine my thought paths!!!
Awww I'm sorry for your loss
@@DaSandwich21 it is odd that they don't mention that in this video. I remember hearing on the news in Columbus when she passed away and was surprised it wasn't mentioned in this video.
God, "painting over the broken parts" sounds like something a lazy 6 year old would do.
Welcome to the world of adults. Most are out here acting like 6 year olds
Or my grampa 😂
So is putting zipties instead of actual bolts. Some people should not have access to any type of rides.
@@royliber3824 agreed.
True
>Investigation begins.
>The part that broke looks pretty rusty.
>Case closed!
@Scott 1 It was not seen as an area that could develop rust.
@M S It's not rocket science, it's basic engineering. Do you know how these things are designed? They use lots of calculations and engineering standards to determine a minimum wall thickness. Usually, the steel used is slightly thicker than the absolute minimum required for safe operation, which is accounted for in the calculations. The rust had reduced the wall thickness severely enough that the metal was no longer as thick as the minimum wall thickness in various places.
In the video he stated the minimum wall thickness was 3mm. You do not need a microscope to see if the wall thickness was less than 3mm, a tape measure is perfectly capable of that.
Yeah there was no real point of making this video using sleep baby stuff to get views about something that doesn't matter anymore
@@CoasterCollege don't be so humorless.
@@rars0n why do people with no sense of humor flock to these vids?
This one hits hard for me, Tyler Jarrell (the one person who had passed) was in high school with me at the time, everyone was shocked and Franklin Heights will likely never be the same
He was? Wow crazy
i'm so sorry to hear of your loss, can't imagine how his family feels knowing he went out to have a good time and never came home. ): hopefully the law passed with his namesake will prevent such tragedies from occurring in the future.
I was at the career academy with him. He was always willing to help others, especially in his cyber class.
Danm I'm supposed to go to that school : though I hope his family and friends are doing better 🙏
@@akuma3278 small world.
The problem is that someone has to die so that changes are made
Unfortunately all health and safety law is written in blood, when people complain about health and safety they really piss me off.
People know this can happen so why does it take a death for people to actually do their job and maintain the rides properly?
It's not easy trying to avoid the hard way and it's scary and very sad!!
It wasn't a problem before
i LOVE rides, but I just don’t trust “traveling” ones like this: too many things can go wrong when putting it up and down
In the UK travelling fairground rides aren't required to be formally inspected and deemed safe by a regulatory inspector before operation. Instead the onus is on the fairground to make sure it carries out all the relevant checks and tests etc. Fortunately accidents and incidents are rare but it's only after something happens Health and Safety Executive will get involved. Theme parks operate totally differently but the travelling fairground rides that pop up for a week or two then move on to somewhere else are potentially lethal.
And before these laws they would hire ANYBODY to put rides up/take rides down. I know for a fact because my step dad did it for 3 months with ZERO experience or knowledge in engineering
@@CharlotteWeb100 wrong travelling rides in uk are 100 percent safe they have the same safety as theme park and the same rides they get checked all the time
@Halo3 ODST No they don't. Honestly I could sit here and prattle on until August on this one you'll have to trust me but apart from anything else - no ride on Earth is 100% safe nor impossible to have accident or injury whether it's teacups / ladybirds or the world's fastest and most intense roller-coaster. The risk just gets much higher when the rides are part of a travelling fairground. HSE have upped their game and got a specific task force (NFIT) prompted largely after the Smiler crash at Alton Towers which is a safe ride and was working perfectly that day it was down to park management unfortunately. For travelling fairgrounds in-between their yearly inspection and certificate to operate, HSE only tend to be involved reactively rather than proactively. As I say it's rare but travelling fairgrounds have a significant higher risk overall.
@@CharlotteWeb100 theme parks have more accident then fairs fair rides have daily checks and yearly checks that’s why there’s no accidents up fairs take safety very seriously that’s why there never any accidents not sure about the USA but uk fair are very safe the rides are. Made to move about if they was not safe they would not be allowed to open the fairs have there main yearly inspection but the maintenance team do dally inspections before the ride opens so the rides get checked every day by the staff team and once a year by the main guys
Why did it take this long to make sure the inspectors actually know stuff about engineering?
Arguably, with the right training and good enough inspection practices, being an engineer on entry to the job isn't necessary. That said, I agree with the regulation.
Probably because, with so much to do, it sometimes takes a freak accident to bring an issue like this to the attention of those in charge. Barring an accident, do think lawmakers would EVER think to see if there's already a law like this? Nope.
The Ohio DOA admits they merely inspect for structural integrity. It is written. amzn.to/3a9r34M
boomers thinking college aint shit bc they all got careers with diplomas
I work as a mechanic. And I will tell you now, engendering background or not they wouldn't have caught this without different rules and practices. The background isn't needed and makes hiring them more difficult and got rid of a lot of decent well trained inspectors. The whole rusting issue was caused by a design issue made by an engineer.
Can we talk about how the walls only have to be 3mm to be safe? That’s wild.
steel is strong af
How thick do you think the metal on your car is?
@
I mean 3mm is enough, though if i was a manufacturer I might make it a bit more to prevent this kind of stuff.
it's a boxed section roughly 2ft by 1ft.
that's 6ft at 3mm.
Meaning the same as a 2 inch by 4 inch solid square bar
The breaking strength of a solid bar that is 2x4" is tens of thousands of pounds
*puts walls as 2.9999999999999999999 mm*
Rest in Peace Tyler Jarrell, he was the coolest kid that I ever got to work with. Thank you for making this video so respectful, all of his friends and family have been missing him really bad lately
R.I.P Tyler 😢😢😢😢 This is why everyone should actually do their jobs, make sure you really do your job. Please, people's lives are actually in your hands. Just please do your job.
Never heard 'gondola' pronounced that way...
John Pace yea its kinda bothering me lol
@@UghEmily it's terrible.
I can hear Hermine Granger now:
"It's gone-do-la. Not gon-D'OH-la."
Daniel Kaplan Lol ikr
@@pettifoggingpharisee hahaha perfect
Tyler and I went to the same high school, he was also ready to graduate a year early. He was in cyber security, ready to go into the military and marry his girlfriend. He was taken too soon. He was always kind to others, and always willing to go out of his way. Rest easy Tyler. 😇
They’d be divorced by now anyway
heaintloveu damn who hurt you? lmao
heaintloveu found the niceguy
@@heaintloveu why did you feel the need to type this?
bobthedragqueen doop because I’m the TH-cam Fairy
>investigation starts
>”ey boss, that looks hella rusty”
>”damn, your right”
>investigation ends, publish findings, make plans to fix issue
I'm actually really glad of how the Dutch manufacturer handled this. Some amusement parks need to take notes.
honestly, settling out of court can just make a company look worse as people find out about it. I'm more likely to trust a compony that holds itself liable fir its shortcomings than one that brushes it under the rug and pretends nothing happened.
Cheap fixes reek of apathy and a lack of morals.
Lives > Money
Spoiled Rat amen to that! And I’m saying that as a carnival worker myself, I work for a family-owned show in southern Pennsylvania, and we always do our due diligence in preventative maintenance, and in properly repairing a ride in the event that preventative maintenance isn’t enough. I personally go as far as making sure my ride is sprayed down with disinfectants (usually Lysol, but rubbing alcohol is preferred when I can get it) daily (and every time there is a puker since I operate, inspect, and maintain a ride that has quite a lot of those) just to prevent spread of any spread of sicknesses and germs. It’s just common sense to me to double and triple check everything everyday and even when I’m operating the ride with guests on it, I’m constantly listening and looking. You can never be too careful, especially when many lives (in my case up to 32 lives per ride cycle) are literally in your hands.
@@EclipseOfMusicDJ That makes me feel so safe. It's people like you that make the industry so secure and fun
Even in terms of a monetary goal, not fixing your ride properly is just stupid. Otherwise you open yourself up to lawsuits and going out of business because nobody wants to risk dying.
Borkborknomnom 9000 amen to that. For a perfect example of that exact scenario, look up the B&B Amusements Himalaya accident from March of 1998. Company was basically sued out of existence because they didn’t maintain the ride, and it resulted in a teenage girl’s death. That was the last accident that really opened everyone’s eyes in the industry prior to the Ohio State Fair accident. Everyone thinks because it’s a big company or because the company has a lot of influence within the industry that said company does their due diligence. Most times the big companies are most dangerous because not enough people are in positions of power to police the folks who more frequently have their eyes directly on the equipment to make sure repairs and preventative maintenance (greasing, bolt torquing, etc.) are being done properly
@H K lolol why act like i'm tryna be deep 😂
This is why I don't trust rides like this at state fairs.
I quit riding fair rides a long time ago. Incidentally, the last time I rode such rides was at. . .the Ohio State Fair.
Counterpoint1951 I bet you still drive/ride in a car almost everyday, way more dangerous than a carnival ride.
So you stopped watching at 5:12, eh?
Galaxia9 get a grip 🙄. Don’t tell me u don’t drive or never get in car? U do realize you’ll more likely to get killed in a car then on these rides?!
Guys, chill. I don't like these kinds of rides anyways. I just feel better if something like this was at an amusement park rather than a fair. Parks regularly maintain everything and check rides most of the time. Fairs are literally take-down-and-set-up. I think fairs have fewer regulations too. I just feel safe at a park.
These accidents are horrible and are pretty crazy to hear about, but I like how he talks about safety regulations and new laws that were implemented. It's very reassuring to know that people learn from accidents like this and do their best to make sure another accident of the same kind never happens.
Went on a ride like this in a Swedish park my best friend next to me suddenly scream in fear as we are going backwards and I instantly notice her over the shoulder safety is not working like it should, it starts going up so I hook my arm around it and hold on for dear life. I've never been so scared before and I've never felt so strong holding on like I did, the strength you get when you want to protect loved ones is insane
Why is a department of agriculture inspecting rollercoasters and amusement rides?
In Ohio, ride inspection falls under the jurisdiction of the dept of agriculture. While it sounds kind of strange I think it’s a section of the department that evolved from rides having to be inspected at county and state fairs in Ohio (don’t quote me on that). Regardless I’ve worked with some of these inspectors and can say they take their job really seriously and are incredibly qualified (:
RevoltingRails It’s no different than the ATF (Alcohol Tobacco Firearms) investing bombings. Just fall under that category.
Oh, thanks! Never knew that first part
Ohio began investigating rides at state and county fair, and these fall under the jurisdiction of the department of agriculture, and thus so do the rides.
Even THEY want to know why they have to do that. Like they said about the safety in the Son of Beast investigstion, "We don't know. We're not roller coaster engineers."
this video reminds me of when i rode the Zipper a couple years back at a fair in Pennsylvania and slammed my face repeatedly into the screen guard that covered the front of the car i was in, likely due to the amount of space between me and the restraint being more than what would have been deemed appropriate for securing a teenage girl.
legitimately was more terrified than i'd ever been in my life, but luckily only got a couple bruises/sore arms- i'm aware now that that ride in particular has a notorious history, though. would love to see you cover more transportable ride accidents, and great video!
My younger sister was barely tall enough to go on the Zipper at our county fair. Needed our older brother to ride. She hit her head and had the ride stopped. Hasn't been on one since, though she goes on every roller-coaster. And if she doesn't want to go on something there's no way I'm going on it!
If you want to know how it feels to ride basically any zipper model, you might as well jump in a running clothes dryer and then have your friend push it down a mountain.
@@nowondr i love fair rides, but every time i see a fair that has the Zipper, i internally cringe. those things were practically made to be felt the next morning!
Liked for that Watson pfp
This is why I'm afraid of zippers
And why the Department of "Agriculture"? Isn't that, like, farms and food cultivation, not theme parks?
Maybe bc it's a fair? Idk
Someone else ask that and this person answered it Krista Kula
"In Ohio, ride inspection falls under the jurisdiction of the dept of agriculture. While it sounds kind of strange I think it’s a section of the department that evolved from rides having to be inspected at county and state fairs in Ohio (don’t quote me on that). Regardless I’ve worked with some of these inspectors and can say they take their job really seriously and are incredibly qualified (:"
Department of agriculture also does farm related equipment and building inspections, toss in the existence of county fairs and the jump stops looking so big
@Eli Suryana i know, i was just stating in that month old comment that the leap from agricultural and all it's facets to amusement rides and similar wasn't actually that grand a leap in by proxy logic
@@prcervi From a mechanical and technical perspective, both agricultural and amusement equipment require frequent inspection of welds, chains, hydraulics, control systems and more to ensure that they are operating safely and effectively. There's more overlap than you think. What do a tractor,a forklift, a power shovel and arollercoaster all have in common? They are all "heavy equipment".
I literally remember riding that exact ride when I was 14 years old at my local fair.
Jennifer Lambert, the other teenager who was thrown from the ride, died in 2018 from liver failure. She was living in a care home because her injuries left her with traumatic brain injury and got sick. She didn't die as a result of her ride injuries, but I think it's fairly safe to say that she would not have passed away when she did had she not been injured on the ride.
Honestly, no amount of freak accidents like this will stop me from riding amusement rides _unless_ it were to somehow become statistically _unsafe_ to ride them. Ultimately, the vast, _vast_ majority of people who go on amusement rides will never be permanently injured or die on them, or even experience any kind of catastrophic failure like this one. And frankly, the way I see it, I love theme parks and amusement rides so much that if I were to somehow become one of those people who die on one, well, that's just the way I go - at least I died doing something I enjoyed, lmao. Great video as usual, I was always a bit unclear on what the verdict ended up being with this accident.
I feel like it would be a scary way to die because I'm pretty sure that you would know your about to die and the desire to survive will kick in but you would be powerless in that moment
Morgan Williams I just wouldn’t trust sketchy places like a fair.
puppetuppers I can’t imagine getting on a ride that folds up and moves around.. it’s terrifying...
Definitely more likely to end up in a car crash on the way to the park than be killed on a ride.
@@renrensiren112 Isn't that instinct going to kick in with any impending doom? For example car crash... the world slows down.,.. it's not any different, if you die you die xD
This is a great video! Factual, informative, and doesn’t stray from the main topic. Also, I do appreciate you not including the full video of the accident. When it happened, I unfortunately saw the video of the detachment and had I known exactly what I was going to see, I would not have viewed it. I wouldn’t want others to experience the same thing because that’s one of those things that you can never unsee. You have a new subscriber!
Just goes to show you never know when death is going to knock on your door.
Such a tragic case.
This was definently one of the scariest days of my life since we weren't far from the Fireball.
I remember when me and my family went back to the fair a few days later barely anyone was riding the rides.
My parents wouldn't even let me and my brother ride any of the rides in Midway so we had to settle for the swing ride in the Kiddie Land and the giant yellow slide. But man was it hella chilling seeing the Fireball just sitting in a vacant area of the fair.
But thanks for explaining this I was confused on what happened!
dang that’s scary, anytime i go to my fair, i refuse to go on this ride because of this accident. my family and friends call me a baby but i don’t care, it scares me that this could happen. i don’t trust it, considering that our ride goes fully upside down at my fair.
*Soulja Boy voice* : ZIP TIIIEEESS?!?!
I remember when this story first broke. My heart goes out to the poor kid that lost his life, his loved ones, and those who were left injured and/or traumatized after this awful tragedy 💔
Thank you for this explanation. I still think about this accident since it happened. I used to ride all rides anywhere, but haven’t since I saw this accident. RIP Tyler 💙
I was in line to ride this when it happened. I was talking to my friend trying to get out of line because I've always been scared to ride these kinds of rides, and hearing the loud sound when it detached made me jump so bad. I just remember hearing everyone screaming and trying to get the ride to stop, people moving away and people trying to help.
I remember seeing this on the news on the TV at my grandfather's hospital room. He passed away a few days later. Seeing this pop up in my feed brought back a wave of memories and emotion I can't explain. Thanks, I genuinely needed that cry. 😢
Solar Rays I’m sorry for your loss
I remember riding that ride and being terrified. The last time I rode it was I think the same year as this accident. This ride was fun, but my heart goes out to the family of the person. It should never have happened
I rode the Fireball at Ohio State Fair & after this happened, it really freaked me out thinking about how this could've happened to me. I can't ride the rides at the state fair anymore without irrational fear of this happening. Scary, unfortunate & preventable. RIP to Tyler
I remember this day very well. At the time I was a member of the All Ohio State Fair Band. I was out walking with friends as we had some free time. We got a message saying to return to the barracks, none of the band members knew what was going on. I remember as we were all sitting on our bunks, (as they were making sure none of us were injured we later found out), as people got on their phones and saw the news of what happened. Rest in peace Tyler.
Tyler’s law is likely a good thing to have in Ohio. I don’t doubt that Cedar Fair does a good job with inspections, but making sure that fairs and the few smaller parks of Ohio take care of their rides is pretty important. It will also make CP and KI much more appealing as safe if the ride regulations are much tighter help reduce any freak accidents, or maybe even minor injuries, that may sometimes occur.
Why didnt they have engineers checking since the start? e.e thats crazy
it was never thought to be a problem area.
Yes, it is like saying that a law was passed requiring people performing surgery to have a medical degree. My father had two engineering degrees (bachelor's and master's), and believe me, an engineering degree is no small thing.
My father inspected a highway tunnel once that was about to be opened to the public and found it was unsafe. Needless to say, my father did not clear the tunnel for traffic.
In some states, the people who inspect the rides aren't really all that qualified to do so.
I am really happy you make these videos to bring light to accidents and history of theme park rides
This is wild. I know it's super unlikely that an accident would happen but I did ride this ride at the Louisiana State Fair in 2017. I've never heard of this accident until now, but I remember this being the most daring ride I got on. I'm a bit untrusting of fair rides, but my boyfriend at the time convinced me to get on this one. It was a lot of fun, no doubt, and I was amazed at how high it took us. I could see the parking lot and highway over the really tall trees and that was so memorable. But I also remember it having a severe jolt every time the ride reached max height. The whole structure would jolt and I couldn't help imagining the arm breaking from the jolt and how far we would fly.
There was a time I was on a ferris wheel, way up at the top. I could see so far and so wide...the sun was setting and the pinks and purples and oranges were absolutely stunningly beautiful! It made my heart soar! And then I looked to my left, and my heart sank to my toes. All I could see was duct tape wrapped around a pole holding two pieces of metal together. I had no idea what this tape was holding in place (it may have just been the lights), but I knew I did not want to be way up in the air on a machine that was held together with duct tape! I managed to keep it together until I got off and I made a promise to myself that I would never ever ever get on another ride at a fair again! those rides are thrown together and taken down so often and so many times those people that are in charge of doing the process probably get comfortable. And for me that is a NOPE!
I also feel like inspection of these things should be on a national level all the same across the board and not left to the states. But I don't make the laws, I'm just a nobody!
SO DID YOU SAY ANYTHING TO ANYONE, OR JUST LET OTHERS KEEP RIDING THE RIDE??
These rides are put together by carnies high on meth.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that nobody used duct tape on an essential part of the ferris wheel frame. They'd be looking at crazy fines and jail time. Don't be so dramatic
I already told you several times now, that was my wheel. The damned tape was simply to add an extra layer of element protection for the sealed fused connector for the lighting for each car. The tape was not even needed, it was an above and beyond, and ONLY for the lighting. PLEASE stop telling this story about my Sky Wheel
@@jasonmacneil2256 of course I told someone! I don't think they cared though. Have you ever took a long hard look at a traveling carnival worker?
"I'm not going on Afterburner 1. It is unsafe."
"Afterburner 1 looks too intense for me."
Thanks for covering this. This is my home state and the State Fair is a big deal for us as it's one of the top Fairs in the country. This incident was very shocking for all of us
the thing i like about your videos are that you get to the point quite quickly
I remember riding this ride. Ever since this incident, I have never gone to the OH State fair.
They have a new ride company provide rides for the fair now.
Give the state fair another shot. Amusements of America no longer has the contract for the midway, and the fair awarded the contract to Talley’s Amusements, which is a phenomenal midway and one of the best large shows I’ve seen, and that’s saying a lot considering I’m of the opinion that a lot of the bigger shows in the US are too big for their britches and put money above safety, which makes the industry look bad. I work for a smaller family owned show in Pennsylvania, and you don’t see any of those issues that you see on most bigger shows like Amusements of America. But Talley’s Amusements is a high class operation, and I definitely recommend you check them out at the state fair.
I agree with the replies, but I could understand the mental block
Bare metal should never be left on any heavy machinery that is exposed to the elements. I wonder how much more it would’ve cost for KMG to lay paint or some sort of anti-corrosion surface treatment to the inside of the ride’s frame, sweep arms and gondolas.
The Fringes they do ? The ride was 17 years old at this point and by the sounds of it not looked after correctly so how can you blame kmg
@@johnwilmot6804 I've seen cars that were older than that ride with less corrosion because of factory rust inhibitors. Any sort of thick enamel coating would've helped reduce the rate of rust buildup
The Fringes yes and I imagine there was a lot Applied when it was originally built what am saying is that over time it’s probably been rub off or the effect has worn off what am saying kmg done there part and the maintenance that the ride was receiving wasn’t adequate
Garrett McCullough they may not be disassembled, but they are consistently left with an opening that allows corrosion to occur because of how the Gondola arm sits when the ride is racked. They sit the same way that they’re attached to the ride. That opening is facing up and water could freely pool in there. The claw portion of the Fireball is the exact same design as what’s used in the “Move It 24” manufactured by KMG, and that design was licensed to Tivoli-Amtech, and is more commonly seen as the “Spin Out”. While the KMG design had that opening on the arms, Tivoli remedied that when they first were licensed to produce the ride, and they added a plate on the ends of the gondola arms (the part that broke in this accident) and on the sweep arms to prevent any water, air, etc. from getting inside the beams and causing the corrosion we saw in this case. As far as the rust-inhibitor coatings are concerned, I have never seen such a product that was guaranteed to last 17 years, or to last for its full life expectancy when water is directly pooling in the area that the product is to be protecting, and that water not being regularly dumped out. Those Gondola arms are extremely heavy, so I highly doubt Amusements of America was flipping them over every setup to dump the water out... I’ve been in the carnival industry all of my life and have seen many rides that were maintained properly, and many that weren’t, and I’ve seen rides that were thought to be too far gone mechanically be brought back by just a simple part replacement and some fresh grease. The show I work for bought a Skyfighter ride as their very first ride, and that ride was at the Amusements of America winter quarters many years prior, and the folks that had it before us had to get two new vehicles fabricated for on it because at the time there wasn’t anywhere to get parts for the ride (it was after Chance bought out Allan Herschell, and prior to the founding of the Allan Herschell Factory Museum and the subsequent buying back of the assets from Chance), and those two original vehicles had water pooling in them every winter for so long while with Amusements of America that you would’ve fallen through the floors had you stepped into them.
Garrett McCullough I mean I don’t work in metal but I have half an idea I must’ve not had a proper look before putting that comment out none the less I’d still hold the operator more accountable then kmg and in kmgs defence they were quick to respond and completely replaced all the gondolas on all relevant afterburners
Man, this happened a week after I took our friend, husband and daughter to the local fair here. The similar ride, (called G-Force here) was not allowed to be ridden AT ALL until complete full inspection happened to ensure rider safety. It was Out Of Operation for three hours after the fair opened before people could ride, as they were still doing the inspection before the fair opened, too, and had several other rides to inspect. So glad they were extra careful compared to the one in Ohio. .-.
This is an incredible series thanks so much for making it.
Good work man thanks again for making this for us
Wait, no one ever thought of painting the metal on the inside?
Or spraying some wax in there like you would for cars?
As someone who comes from the car industry I can tell you that paint and wax will get you only so far. Park a car with perfect paint and wax on the underside of the floor on a field of grass that is wet a lot of the time and it will rust. A lot. Storing, and most likely transporting, it open air may have been only part of the issue, but if you have your rides sitting outside, disassembled, probably each year through the winter, you better make sure to apply wax to the inside of these parts each year, better even twice a year to be safe.
Even considering that KMG may have had a design flaw that allowed too much water to enter these arms, ultimately it is still the ride owners responsibility to maintain and store the darn thing properly. Even something as simple like a tarp / canvas cover like you sometimes see on the trailers of semi trucks could have done the trick of keeping the water out of the parts.
Moisture could still get under and cause rust just like the undercoating on cars that actually make the frame rust out
It can be expensive and if they did it would add to the cost leaving no one wanting to buy it
I saw this happen but it still hasn’t stopped me from riding fair rides
Only gp will stop right
Thank you for continuing your passion instead of stopping because of one event you witnessed.
Did you see it happen in person????
Bella The Sheep you’re welcome
Phạm Trí Trung right
Thanks for not using the videos of the accident and the aftermath. Ohio news stations did not shy away from them and I felt awful knowing loved ones might see the injuries or death.
A drinking game for every time he mispronounces the word “gondola”
Don't die!
Not just me then 😁😉
@@CoasterCollege lol
9300 injuries huh, between 1990 to 2010.
NEVER STOPPED ME
That number is really low.
I have ridden one of these KMG Afterburners and they are so damn good.
It looks cool but I would Throw up on it
I've ridden a few including the one at Drievliet in the Netherlands and that thing is just insane. So intense and so much airtime
I’ve also ridden one, claw at Hersheypark
idiotic rat55 They’re not actually too bad. The only one I’ve been on is Vortex at Thorpe Park, England!
I rode one in Korea, I don’t remember the name but you would hang upside down for around20 seconds but it felt like minutes.
I'm really glad I found your channel I've had a fear of amusement rides that fly in the air (like these and those swings idk names) and this is helping me get over it. I had a fear of them because I was on one of the rocking ships (usually shaped like a pirate boat) and restraint came undone. Thankfully I was okay and my grandma who was with me but it was one of the most frightening things. The ride operator didn't realize anything was wrong til we told him when we got off.
i was at the OSF when this happened. my friend and i had literally rode that about an hour or so before it happened. we were getting food near there when we heard it happen. it was so loud and everyone rushing over there was such a scary experience
I remember riding this ride the year prior and my friend's seat latch didn't latch all the way: she gripped onto my leg over her lap as hard as she could and we genuinely thought she would fly out. When we saw this on the news, it was so tragic and horrifying that this happened. And that nobody knew it would happen when it had problems for years. I pray his family is able to heal from this. Heartbreaking.
That's scary! Did you two report it at the time? Or didn't know what to do?
It's sad that you go for a day of fun and it ends like that. RIP to the young man who lost his life
Went on a field trip the day after this happened. It was so eerie to see that entire side of the fair shut down and knowing why. This was literally my favorite ride there growing up
your voice is very calming, I love this series so I hope you can continue it. :)
At my home park (PNE playland) I know some ppl who wont ride their KMG: “The Beast” because of this accident. I’ve also had some ppl tell me that ppl died on “The Beast” because they confuse the 2 rides.
Rory Haase no one even got injured, worst was just nontoxic oil spilt
I remember last year I was on one of these.
Dunno why but everytime I pictured the seats or pod just detaching and being catapulted to the air.
No need to say I didn't feel good.
And that comes from someone who loves good rides and went on the Silver Star and T Express.
But hey. I know they're safe and all. But it's just not for me
This is why fair rides are scary. They aren’t permanent like an amusement park, they are taken down and put up over and over and pieces can go missing. I have been to a fest near my house and have see workers fixing rides with duct tape😳
Yea but even rollercoasters are no better smiler ring a bell a woman lost her fucking legs on that ride
Note never go to alton towers thorpe always service there rides every month that'd why the price of ticket's is higher but do you want a safer experience where everything is maintained or go elsewhere where the maintenance is not as good and you trust a smiler ride after a bolt flown off it do the figures
Please I literally went on The smiler nearly a year ago and it's completely safe. You don't understand that it was completely human error and nothing to do with the rid.e
I was on this at Calgary Stampede a few weeks before the accident (I believe on the 13th of July, one of the last days of the event). One of my favourite ones until the accident, now I’m too afraid to go on rides again. I had no idea it had been in poor condition at the time I was on it. Crazy shit. You’re so high up in the air I can’t imagine what it would feel like to suddenly fly off.
Oh my god, thank you so much for covering this. I was supposed to go to the state fair the next day, and as soon as we got word that there had been an accident, we cancelled our trip. That said, it's terrifying, but a freak accident that rarely happens. It's not stopped me from going to the fair every year since.
I know parks and rides are statistically safe, but I'd really like the parks to get together and publish ride inspection code. The code should cover all types of rides specifically and be comprehensive. The code should be globally appicable and consider regulations and input from other countries. If the parks and fairs are doing what they should be, this would mean that nothing would change. I'm sure there would be some places that would have to implement changes (I once saw a kiddie coaster being kept running with a garden hose) but it's very possible at least some of these operators are inspecting the rides as best as they know how and would be happy for the instructions. It would also give us something to build public understanding and legal reinforcement around.
This particular video shows a genuine accident. Regardless of other practices, there were no manufacturer instructions on how to check the ride for internal rust. It clearly and reasonably never occurred to the operator or the manufacturer that this could become a problem. Unfortunately, it did and the ride tore itself apart. Tragically, three people were seriously injured and one died. Ohio can't be the only place that learns a lesson from this.
Add E you don’t want the parks solely to help in making the ride inspection code or other laws that would ultimately apply to the carnivals/fairs. Parks are inspected less often than carnivals/fairs (parks inspected every 30-90 days, carnivals/fairs inspected every setup which is usually weekly), and parks have pushed for various exemptions that carnivals need to operate (for example DOT exemptions such as the seasonal carnival and circus tags for rigs and trailers that were valid April 1 to September 30) to be removed. I’ve grown up in the carnival industry and I’ve seen the changes just in my lifetime, and my mentors always told me about the changes that occurred in their lifetimes in the same push-pull “war” between the parks and the carnivals/fairs to push one another out of business or to sway the public opinion in one way or another.
As far as the accident in Ohio is concerned, see my main comment on the video, Amusements of America just had that ride in the shop for repainting and refurbishment the winter before the 2017 season. There’s no way that someone didn’t notice how bad the insides of those sweep arms were while they were repainting the outsides of them. My full belief is that Amusements of America or someone associated with them didn’t do their part by reporting the corrosion to the manufacturer when it was in the shop being gone over, so that it could’ve been dealt with. Classic example of the few bigger shows making the rest of us look bad by putting the pursuit of the almighty dollar above the safety of the guests giving them that almighty dollar. You don’t see those kinds of issues on smaller family owned shows like the one I work for, and I’ll admit a few of the bigger shows are decent. But at least two of the bigger shows in the US are making the rest of the industry look bad, and Amusements of America is one of them.
Sincerely, an American Carnival Worker (With It and Proud of It)
@@EclipseOfMusicDJ Oh, I very much meant to include carnivals, traveling and otherwise. And I didn't mean government inspection, I meant the daily operational inspection performed on each ride by the employees. Employees/maintenance workers always know more about their specific rides than a government inspector does. Having those inspection practices agreed on and published would give the government inspectors something proven and reliable to base their inspections on.
If the ride was disassembled to be painted, then it is very probable that somebody saw the rust. What we'll never know is if that person knew enough about what they were looking at to report a problem, if they did, or if anyone listened. You may well be right, but there's a difference between good intuition and proof. But a comprehensive inspection code would help to put operations like Amusements of America in check.
Add E everyone across the board is already required to do those daily inspections and log them on a form, at least for those states that have any kind of legislation regarding ride safety. There’s still one state I believe that has no laws on the books for ride safety. And the government inspector is supposed to check those daily inspection forms for completion and accuracy. Those inspectors also reserve the right to reinspect a ride by following the daily and weekly forms if they feel something is amiss. Some states have penalties in place for falsification of inspection documents.
What all states need to adopt though, is a rider responsibility law. The majority of accidents on rides are caused by the rider in some way. States like Pennsylvania have Clear-cut rider responsibility acts that allow a rider to be criminally charged if they cause or contribute to an accident on a ride. However, Maryland carnival owners have been fighting the legislators there and lobbying for years to get a similar law passed, and it has not happened yet. Almost all states have laws governing those who own and operate rides, but not all of those states have laws governing those who ride them.
@@EclipseOfMusicDJ Since I don't work in the industry, I obviously can't know what those logs consist of, but I would be genuinely surprised if it was more than a line or two per ride. To talk about an industry I do know a bit about, school buses also have daily inspection requirements, and the driver is criminally liable if it isn't completed. It's a forty point check list, which includes brakes. Newer fancier ways of forcing the inspections to be completed and proving they were done are invented all the time, solely because they aren't being done. It's all a matter or give-a-damn, and there are undoubtedly parts of the amusement industry that suffer from the same problem. There is very much something to be said for industry standards. The fact that "almost all states have laws" is a perfect illustration of the problem. As is the claim that "some states have penalties for falsification".
I'm all for rider responsibility laws. Though as a person who has lived and amused in PA, I neither surprised by that law nor did I know it existed. People are generally considered to be responsible for their actions in the eyes of the law, regardless. Beyond that, it does nothing to change the responsibility of the operator to make sure the ride is safe to begin with. The two are totally separate things.
The truth is that we're debating something that will probably never happen, because the accident rate IS so low, and amusement operators seem to be of the opinion that it isn't worth their time to do or that it's in their best interests not to. The upshot of it is that no matter how sketchy carnival rides can be, they're still far safer that driving a car. If that changes, so will the regulations.
Add E actually, the inspection sheet for the ride I currently work with is one side of a legal sized sheet, and it pushes the borders of that side of the sheet. I can’t remember how many points exactly off the top of my head because it’s the off season and we don’t start back up again for 2 months (pending the eradication this virus of course), but it’s about 25-30 points I would say, with most of those being static points, meaning I can check those points without power and without Operating the ride, and about 6 of those points pertain to the actual operation (timer, e-stop, dead man pedal, lockout tagout keyswitch, RPM for the drive, and hydraulics and brakes of course as well, and making sure the ride clears the fence and that those outside the fence cannot touch any part of the moving ride). Most of the major rides on our show are around 25-30 points for a daily inspection, upwards of 40-45 for post-setup inspection since there are various preventative maintenance tasks that need completed every time the ride is assembled. Kiddie rides are about half of that, but that’s because they’re simpler machines. We don’t have a lot of “spectacular” rides as they’re called, meaning rides that require multiple trailers to move or rides that are meant to be “drawing cards” for crowds due to height, unique movement, or fancy light packages. But usually a spectacular ride takes both sides of a legal sized sheet, or upwards of two legal sheets on both sides. 60+ points for a daily inspection, and more for a post-setup inspection.
All inspections are your common sense stuff. This includes but is not limited to electrical connections and wiring, mechanical function, structural integrity (visual checks daily, nondestructive testing as required by the manufacturer and state), proper function of primary and secondary restraints, proper function of all rider-interactive components (I work with a ride called the Tornado, and the riders can spin their seat cluster with a turntable at the middle of the cluster), operator controls, and ensuring that there are no hazards to riders on the ride or within the fenced area. Usually on a major ride, the inspection takes about a half hour. Kiddie rides take about 15-20 minutes, and spectacular rides take around 45 minutes to an hour to complete the full daily inspection. And most shows, including the one I work for, keep your uniform shirt as collateral until the inspection sheet is completed. You can’t open your ride until you have your inspection sheet turned in and have received your uniform shirt.
As far a The give-a-damn mentality, there are a few shows with workers that frankly don’t give a damn about the inspections. They just test run the ride once and then fill out those 25-30 points as if they were checked. But most shows are not like that, and most workers are not like that. It’s peoples’ lives directly in our hands every day (especially in the case of school buses, you guys carry our most precious cargo), but it’s not a place to cut corners, because for a lot of people, that job and company is their livelihood.
As far as inspection laws go, I don’t agree with it varying state to state. I would be all for a federal set of laws regarding inspections, with the states only functioning as enforcement and recordkeeping entities. Nationally certified inspectors (I.e. a NAARSO or AIMS certification) that are either independent or employees of the company would conduct the inspections, submit a form to the state, and then the state’s team of quality assurance inspectors would audit those certified inspectors. Most companies carry at least one nationally certified (or state certified in the case of Pennsylvania) inspector as an extra set of eyes anyway, so it would just be an extension of that. That way the “some states have penalties” and “almost all states have laws” problems are solved. And as far as rider responsibility is concerned, a law can’t be enforced if it’s not on the books. All rides have safety signs at the fence, and at the bottom usually is a big red box that says “state code requires riders to obey the rules, and violation is a misdemeanor offense”. Can’t enforce that statement if there’s not a law on the books to enforce.
No idea why I'm binge watching this channel. Makes me never wanna go on a rollercoaster/thrill ride again! 😱
These videos are great for time fillers, but I’m being reminded of the memory I have from the TN Valley Fair one year, probably in the late 80s, where my mom and I had just exited from the double Ferris wheel when we heard yelling and bulbs popping. One of the gondolas had partially detached from the wheel on top and was just... dangling.
We decided to go home instead of finding one more ride.
Finally! I have been waiting for this for ever!
I went to the same amusement park on the same day of the accident. I am so glad that we did not go on that ride, because we were about to go on it. And it’s something I will never forget. RIP TO THE LITTLE BOY
i was there the day this happened, but fortunately left right as this incident occurred. it was so sad to see somebody in our community pass like this :(
i remember when this happened. The boardwalk i often go to during the summer, has this type of ride named the It. it was closed for the rest of the summer, and i remember being down the shore when it happened, looking up article after article, scouring for all the info i could on the accident. I have the audio from the accident video burned into my head because of how many times i watched it ( i don't watch actual footage of ride accidents anymore for the most part, especially when spread in a way that is disrespectful, fear-mongering or clickbaity). I have to have watched every video on your channel at least twice, and this is a video i catch myself rewatching more than others. This one definitely shook up a lot of people around me, cause we all loved the It at wildwood.
Ok, did you read my mind? Cause I was literally just hoping yesterday that you would do a what really happened on this accident. AND HERE IT IS! Lol.
Pendulum rides have always been a favourite of mine (although nothing can beat the full rollercoasters for me). I think I've actually liked pendulum rides since before I started going on rollercoasters that actually had inversions. I know that accidents on roller coasters are like 1 in like a million. Maybe more than a million, so hearing about accidents have never phased me. Because I know that a ride that had had an accident in the past, is statistically safer after the fact due to all the testing that they do on the ride afterwards because of the accident.
I love this channel because they reassure you that things are much safer now.
I remember talking about this with my sister when the ride didn't show up at the Indiana State Fair after the incident. It was always one of our go-tos...
This is terrible it's sad this happened 😢 negligence at its best let's not forget all the other riders who are now traumatized for life!!! And the people who witnessed this unfold! Prayers to the family and friends of the 2 who passed away from their injuries
Im always leery about those large scale fair rides. Luckily, for the most part, parks are super strict about safety since stuff like this can ruin their business forever
Most fair companies are too. A large operator will have multiple stops in many different states. An accident could absolutely drive someone out of business.
As an English person I a, always fascinated by the use of ‘leery’ instead of ‘wary’ especially if when you’re the one leering, you’re giving someone else a nasty, intimidating look rather than something else looking intimidating or unpleasant to you. English is weird sometimes.
Kinda random but just wanted to say these videos are fascinating! Really well made - please continue to make!
Thank you for the info!
Idk how many times I can listen to this guy say “gon-DOLE-a” lol
And people tease me about being scared of rides like these...
I remember going to that fair after the accident. It was one of the eeriest feelings I ever felt.
We had the Fireball here in Kentucky some years ago and it was my favorite ride during the state fair.
My aunt and my cousins were waiting in line to get on it when it happened. After this incident I stopped going to the fair. 💀
The fact that when you go to these theme parks you're putting your life in the hands of these companies, who care more about profits than safety, and a state inspector once in a while, is very scary to me. Yes, accidents are rare, but it's still something in the back of my mind when I go on a ride.
i was 7 years old and i remember when it was on the news it scarred me to death i have never gone on another fair ride again i wasnt on it but it was on the news.
I live only a few miles from this fair, and usually go, so hearing this was absolutely terrifying.
It seems like in all of these cases, there's at least one element of criminal negligence that led to the accident.
Timothy Chapman there can’t be criminal negligence for an unknown. At the time that the ride was inspected, the laws were followed, and the ride passed inspection. The accident was a result of many things over time, not just one person or reason. No criminal case could be brought against anyone. There could be a case for a civil suit, and there is or was probably a wrongful death suit filed. The statue for a civil lawsuit is much lower than one for a criminal case.
How tf did i get from scp-001 to this
That's a pretty good summation of what happened. I just attended an ASNT meeting and this incident was discussed. If you ever do an edit, try to find the actual inspection form that was horribly concise. I just saw it. My instructors would probably fail me for how little detail it provided, should I have submitted it. One of the Level IIIs in attendance even commented on how horrible the report was.
they always had a ride like this at the fair when i was younger and just looking at it scared the heck out of me
On a warm evening in '62, I was a 9 year old boy at the Kansas State Fair Midway, riding the 'Tilt-A-Whirl' with school friends. Suddenly, the ride lurched, followed by a loud bang. I remember being showered by bits of broken glass and being spattered by something wet and warm. The insane shrieking that began a second later wasn't like any I had heard before, nor heard since. In the gondola across from mine, a young girl, maybe 15-16 years old, was screaming at the top of her lungs while clutching her face with her hands. Every second or two her gondola would lunge toward ours then pull away, as was normal for that ride. I noted that each time she flashed into view, her white cotton blouse was becoming more red than the time before. Finally the operator clued into the commotion and quickly brought the ride to a stop. Just as we slowed to a halt, the young girl, who was now directly across from me, passed out, dropping her hands from her face. What only a few seconds before been her right eye was now just tattered strings of bloody tissue streaming down her face onto her lap. A hideous gash exposed the teeth in her upper jaw and a swath of white skull all the way to her forehead.
A bare, unprotected 8 foot yellow fluorescent bulb from one of the ride arms had either broken, or fallen out of its socket, becoming a razor sharp coring tool. The lower end of the bulb anchored itself in the soft dirt while the jagged end caught the poor girl in her upper lip, just to the right of her nose, gouging out a wide furrow all the way up past her right eyebrow. Everyone around her, including my friends and I, were drenched in blood, bits of tissue and slivers of yellow glass. In the six decades since that warm Topeka night, I have seen more than my share of gore and misery, but none of it has affected me more than the sight of that poor young girl having her pretty face destroyed by a poorly maintained carnival contraption. She'd be about 73 years old now and I've often wondered how her life turned out. I haven't gone near a carnival midway since.
that must have been traumatic to see
WOW
@@breannamjelde2737 That's putting it mildly.
Wow! 1962 is 2 years after my mom was born...glad you lived to tell that story.
@@calliecat1191 Thanks CC, me too.
These Pendulum type rides are terrifying to me, I don't think I'd ever be able to get on one. There are way too many videos on youtube of them quite literally snapping in half.
For anyone wondering how wheels falling off turns into lap bars opening it has to do with how they're unlocked in the first place.
Since the train itself was unpowered it had to rely on an electrical/mechanical system in the station to _physically_ activate a mechanical master unlocking system on the train. The basic concept still holds true today.
Since the actuator for this system on the train has to be close to the track, it was quickly exposed to damage/unwanted activation when the wheels fell.
This is why they opened simultaneously.
As a Columbus resident, I've been to the fair a couple times. I was sorely appalled with how this investigation was conducted. The fair pointed fingers at the inspectors, the inspectors pointed fingers at the manufacturer, and the manufacturer pointed fingers at the fair owners... When the investigation concluded it was basically a "*shrug* whataya gonna do" 😡 meanwhile several were seriously injured and 1 dead. As far as I've ever heard, no one ever took responsibility for this easily preventable disaster. Have no plans on going to the fair any time soon