Yeah buddy here I thought I was making it hard you got it congratulations Be sure to tune in tomorrow at 4:30to catch 1964 Studebaker Lark Daytona convertible..
I have a friend with a 57 de Soto Adventure and he tells me stories all the time he’s the second owner he’s on this car since he was a kid and he still has it which reminds me I gotta get with him.. =)
In 1970 my first car was a 1956 Fireflite, it was fast about 140mph. All the guys laughed until the rode in it. I always wanted another, two years ago I managed to get a 1956 Firedome. I'm happy again.
Another great engine presentation Jay. Those Hemi engines sure were fast as I know that the most powerful ones could reach speeds of up to 140 mph. I had always thought that the Plymouth "Hy-Fire" V-8 A block engine which was introduced in 1955 was also a Hemi engine, but I guess not. Apparently, so I just read, it was Polysphere. It would be great to do a video on that car along with its V-8 engine because it was quite a looker, and especially the Belvedere advertised as "the beauty of its class", much like the '55 Chevy Bel Air was with its new V-8 engine. Also, it would be a treat if you did a presentation on a '49-'50 Chrysler with its old In-line straight 8 engine. Not a car that discussed much these days, but a great set of wheels nonetheless; or perhaps one of those neat looking '46-'48 Chrysler coupes or convertibles and especially that Town and Country convertible. A true beauty. So many in fact left to cover. I will thus eagerly look forward to your next What's It Like video.
Well there you go, you learn something every day. I did not know that each divisions hemi were distinct and separate from each other. The Hemis were physicaliy large , expensive to manufacture and heavy. Great vid , thx.
As always, your videos are 'spot on'. I grew up with Chrysler - 1950 Dodge Coronet (I remember going with Mama - my first car-buying memory) 1951 Chrysler Imperial 1954 Chrysler New Yorker (gramma) 1955 DeSoto Coronado 1958 Plymouth Belvedere (gramma) 1960 Matador 1962 Lancer GT 1962 Dart 440 (gramma) 1964 Chrysler 300 (my first new car) 1966 Crown Imperial 1973 New Yorker Brougham 1976 New Yorker
A 1955 De Soto Coronado is a very rare car as I believe it was offered only one year and just as a four door sedan in the Fireflite series. From what I read about it, it was introduced in the spring of 1955 but how it differed from the regular De Soto Fireflite four door sedan I do not know. It's a great name however, and De Soto should have employed it as the flagship of their brand instead of using it just once.
@@8176morgan Yes, it was a special car. There were a few unique trim pieces and its own interior and the New Yorker's Hemi. Rarer still was the 1954 Firedome Coronado offered late-Spring - came as a 2-tone in tan and greenie blue with a blue interior. .Dodge had the LeFemme, Chrysler had the C300 and DeSoto offered the Coronado.
@@jerrycallender9927 Yes, that '54 Coronado is definitely quite the rare bird as I had never heard of it before plus it isn't listed in my classic car catalogue, although the '55 Coronado appears there. It looks as if that they were offered only those two years and during the spring season in order to help increase sales. When growing up, our neighbors across the street were big MOPAR fans. All they ever had were Chrysler made cars as well as a red Dodge truck. They had a De Soto back in the 1950's but that was before my time. One of their kids who was the same age as me told me on more than one occasion that Dodge, and they had a '66 Dodge Coronet back then, didn't build the most fancy looking cars but made very good engines. Probably true, a lot better than our family car which was a white 1961 Pontiac Tempest station wagon. It had only 4 cylinders and just 115 hp, believe it or not, and was constantly giving us trouble. Worst car I ever encountered in my life by far - but eventually my parents wised-up and switched to AMC Ramblers which it could be said were decent and dependable automobiles.
My 61 d100 had a 331 in it with the original 3spd "to the motor" it had everything you needed and more for hauling wood .... Damn I miss that old rusty ass truck👍👍👍
Absolutely outstanding, get me a steam shovel to dig this effort! Of note - Chrysler’s early electronic fuel injection system rights were sold to Bosch, who worked and perfected it for the German auto companies. I’d pick the 392. Also interesting to note - these were developed as hemi engines from the start, the 426 doesn’t get quite the same distinction. Thank you as always ~ Chuck
Driving my 1956 Dodge 315 ci D500 Hemi custom Royal Lancer I won my class in the 1987 and 1988 La Carrera classic vintage road race in the Baja Mexico. The race was 200 km 124 MI from Ensenada the Pacific coast up to 4,000 ft in the mountains then down to San Felipe on the Gulf of California. In 1987 the Dodge actually beat every sports car built before 1957. Including Jaguars Ferraris Mercedes Porsches ECT. Completely stock except for safety equipment It averaged 88.6 mph for the distance reaching 135 on the straightaways truly a world-class automobile.
The big Chrysler Hemi was certainly an impressive engine to look at, especially when fitted with the two four barrel intake of the 300’s. An impressive start for their first attempt at a V8 engine, when you realize it was the go to engine all through the 50’s and most of the 60’s, when supercharged and on nitro. It is the gen 2 Street Hemi’s that are a big part of my life.
Do you wanna hear something funny I wrote the script last night when I got back from the car show and I put this together today episodes take longer to put together I was hoping to get done before the 430 timeslot that I try to have all the videos done by I did the Delta 88 video last night but I didn’t get it done until midnight and I didn’t wanna post it then.. and I couldn’t post it tomorrow because tomorrow’s going to be the 1964 Studebaker work Daytona convertible really awesome car.. =) Glad you dig this video
The hemi series of engines are quite frankly some of the most brutally powerful engines ever made. The 426 is just an awesome engine all the way around. I'm glad you featured these engines in this video. It always surprised me that Chrysler DeSoto Dodge all had hemis but they're all different and different sizes and displacements. That must have been a nightmare for parts interchangeability if that was even possible for those. Id choose the 426 hemi. I was also happy to hear that you're going to be doing the polyhead engines. I owned a 64 Dodge that had that engine and it was a real good strong solid motor. But completely overshadowed and overlooked by its big brother hemi's and his little brother small blocks.
I wasn’t 100% sure where to draw the line if I should do all the Chrysler corporation 1st gen hemi engines in one episode do De Soto and dodge in another episode.. But figured even though they’re different it should be discussed at the same time there was a lot of cool information I didn’t know about I didn’t know about the Bendix Electrojector being offered. I felt like I hit the jackpot once I found that information like those ads and illustrations and drawings pertaining to that very rare set up. I’m with you it would’ve cost a fortune and maybe that’s where all Chrysler‘s money went frankly constantly changing blocks and tooling costs. Thank you so much for sharing your experience =)
@@What.its.like. I don't know if it is mentioned in the video , but the 3 product lines are exactly the same design only scaled down , Chrysler , DeSoto , Dodge respectively . And there was no intent to have anything interchange between them , GM and Ford also had very different engine designs within the " sub - brands " . This was the first of many bad ideas ( imo ) , I mean they all could have just used the same Chrysler engine with different branded valve covers or something. But the way the engine series was dropped entirely was just idiotic . The Bendix system was found to suffer from electrical interference from sources such as power lines ( I believe that someone figured this out in the 1980's with a rare surviving system ). They concluded that a little bit of shielding on wires and components would have fixed this. Smithberg Racing did a 354 for the Engine Masters competition back in 2017 or so , they used an EFI system and placed a black box in that location ( and a retro '" Electojector " written on it , lol ).
The 426 is a different engine family altogether . And the reason that it exists at all is because the big block wedge heads would not perform even close to what the early hemi would. The " Max Wedge " program ended with the engineers throwing up their hands in defeat .
Question - have you ever worked on any of the engines you review? My first mother in law had a 55 Dodge with the 270 cu inch hemi. A Custom Royal Lancer Ran great quick for the day. She drove it for 25 years. When I worked as a mechanic, worked on a number of Hemi engines. All held up well. Yep, more than anything else it was cost that sent them away, until brought back out.
I know that at least one source is showing the 331 Firepower engine weighing almost 1,000 pounds, but I doubt this. Other sources state the 331's weight at 693 pounds, which is more in line with other engine weights from the era. A 1957-1958 392 Chrysler Hemi is listed at 737 pounds, and I believe that the early 331, 354 and 392 blocks were close to being the same. A 426 Hemi weighs 843 pounds, and that makes it one of the heaviest engines created for automotive use during the mid-century era. (The early Chrysler Hemi engines are very confusing, especially when you include the Desoto and Dodge engines. I have never known why Chrysler made so many different versions of these engines. It cost them a fortune to do so.)
I had a chart that I totally forgot to put on the video showing all the different engines and all of the different weights the 331 I believe weighed about 800 pounds let me see if I can find it and I’ll link it in here www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=75719&posts=1&highlight=dodge%20hemi%20engines&highlightmode=1
Forty years ago, I had a 1957 Imperial... Like the New Yorker it had a 325 HP single 4 BBL 392 Hemi. It was a survivor car with 51K miles and an engine that had never been apart. This was also the first year of the 3-speed Torqueflite automatic. Together, they moved a nearly 5000 lb. luxury barge with ease. Wish I had been able to keep it all these years.
I own a 1954, 241 red ram. According to the serial numbers and what dodge told me, it’s rated at 240 hp. It’s very heavy and not too bad as far as being snappy. The transmission has two pumps on it. When I purchased it, it was just an engine and transmission. I put it down in a 64 falcon but I had all kinds of firewall problems because the transmission is so large. I finally got it to mound up and I drove it forever like that. I eventually pulled it out and put it into a S 10 because I didn’t have anywhere else to put it, but it worked out very good for me. Today it’s still inside a Chevy S 10 pick up truck and I fired up occasionally. It runs like crap on today’s gasoline though. To get it to fit in both vehicles, I had to cut the firewall completely out. I had to put all kinds of new metal into it. Makes a pretty nice burn out machine. Carburetor is about the size of a canna pop, but I always wanted to find a larger carburetor for it.
Can you image how much tooling costs on three different engines would be and then change every couple years... if Chrysler didn’t do that they would probably still have money to this very day hahaha
Love your informative videos. I drive a very low miles 55 Plymouth with Polyhead V8 260 with AT. It sounds and runs like a small and powerful HEMI. She goes!
Thank you so much for your dig the channel =) Which room of 55 Plymouth do you have? I absolutely love the 55 Plymouth it’s one of my favorite forward look cars they don’t look big but they’re absolutely huge on the inside the front shares, the same design cues that Lincoln and Packard have, which are both more expensive cars than the Plymouth
I owned a 1957 Imperial with a 392 Hemi. That car would haul ass! I also had a 1953 Dodge 241 Hemi with the Gyro-Matic fluid drive. If it was shifted from Lo range to Hi range it would go fairly well. If it was left in Hi range all the time it was a turd. Then I had a 1956 Dodge 270 Red Ram hemi in a 1956 Dodge pickup. It was a transplanted hemi. The original engine was a poly head and it was long gone by the time I got the truck. I put a pair of shorty headers on it and an Offenhauser 3x2 intake with three 97s. That really woke it up! With a Mopar A390 all synchro three speed and a 3.55 rear I could get rubber in all gears and it pulled hard like a locomotive. This little hemi could run with bigger v8s. I was truly impressed.
While I've owed one of each of the early Hemis, the one that stood out was the 331 Chrysler in 300HP. From the factory, it had Dual Carter 4 barrels, adjustable Rocker arms and a dual point distributor, all factory. BTW, the valve covers with dimples between the spark plug holes were for adjustable rocker arm clearance. I went through the engine using the services of a old Swedish machinist (Garn) who had built a early Hemi (392) engine for a local National record holder in the 1/4 mile. I installed .60" over Jahn's pistons, Isky cam. Back then(1973), B&M made a adapter that allowed the use of a newer 727 auto transmission, I also used one of their short tail shaft and manual valve body kits. This engine was installed in a fiber glassed bodied, Austin Bantam roadster.
My first vintage car was a 1953 Dodge Coronet with 241 Hemi and gyro matic semi automatic. That I bought in 1979 for $325. Started my 45 + years of collecting restoring and racing vintage mopars. That a little Hemi ran so well it was hard to believe it was only 241 cubic inches.
I had heard that the reason the FI design failed was lack of shielding from radio and ignition electronic interference. It was said that a simple copper shield could have proved the design reliable and superior to carburetor. Thanks for sharing, you do a good job, very informative. 👍
This story caused something of a stir when it came out some years ago. I think the fellow who got to the bottom of the problem is an electrical engineer. In addition to the EMI/RFI problems, he found that the cheap, wax paper capacitors used in the control unit were also problematic and not up to the harsh life of an under-hood car component.
@@randyrobey5643exactly! Not just the caps these were very early days for solid state components. Transistors were discrete components. I could not rule out that actual radio tubes might have been used. My 60 Buick has a tube type radio. The first VW radios called Sapphire X radios with the X being the number of discrete transistors utilized.
My Dad had a 1954 Chrysler New Yorker then a 1957 Imperial Crown with the 392 Hemi. Big beautiful car with effortless highway cruising. My uncle was a Desoto man and had a ‘55 then a ‘56 Desoto Fireflite. Both were green and not so fast compared to the Imperial.
We had a close family friend who had a 1955 Chrysler 300. We went on lot's of trips in that car! The owner said that he had it up to 126 mph , but the pedal wasn't floored either. These Chryslers with Hemis, from the middle of 1953 to the middle of 1956 only had 2-speed Powerflites, if automatic and the Imperial got the new 3-spoeed Torqueflite in the middle of 1956. Our family friends had both the 1955 300 and a 1956 Imperial. Speaking of the polyspherical V8 The Chrysler Windsors had, I believe, the 318 c.i. version in 1955-6. I was blown away when I saw several of these cars because I thought all Chryslers had the 331 Hemi.
Yeah I remember seeing that, I still can’t believe the 300 with the two speed powerflite I can’t remember did they offer a three speed manual because if I remember correctly that was the biggest drawback to that car it had all the power in the world but couldn’t go anywhere because the transmission.. I should rephrase that the 300 was fast it just wasn’t quick
@@What.its.like. Come to think of it, I think they did offer a 3-speed manual, but I've never seen one. Drag racers used to prefer 2-speed automatics. At some retro drag races I've been to, 2 rails had the virtually identical Hemi's, but one had a 2-speed Powerflite and the other had a 3-speed Torqueflite. The one with the 2-speed ate the other car for lunch. As a side-step, when Briggs Cunningham was building his sports cars, often they were sold as rolling bodies and the buyer had to put his own drivetrain in. However, some left the factory complete. One of our customers had one, a C-4. It had a 331 Chrysler Hemi, with a custom Cunningham intake manifold which had 4 2Bbl carbs. It also had a 3-speed manual transmission. Because there were so many variations in Cunninghams, there were no specs. We ended up swapping in a 4-speed manual. After that, the car raced in a vintage gentleman's race at Laguna-Seca. Several years after that, this kid went to work for us as a step and fetch it. His name was Briggs Cunningham III(or maybe IV). He was the grandson or great grandson of THE Biggs Cunningham!
The 1955 Chrysler Windsors, had 301 ci. Polyhead engines, in 1956, that engine was bored to 331 ci, but still a poly engine ,only the 300, New Yorker, and Imperial got the Hemi's.
I would like to see a video on the Poly head engines. One interesting fact is that the modern "Hemi" engine combustion chamber is more similar to the Poly combustion chamber than the 426 "Elephant" engines.
I own a '56 Fire power in my '56 Imperial. It also has the first 3 speed torque flite trans, not available in the '56 sales brochure. It will run happily all day or night on todays interstates at 75mph, and gas milage really isn't that bad for what it is.
1956 300B, to love one is to own one. My dad picked up a complete 56 300B in 1962, for an unheard of sum of $175.00 USD. No it wasn't a junker, and no it wasn't beat up. The car was extremely presentable. And for all you performance guys, it had the factory 355 hp engine. It would scream. I still have the engine and transmission out of that car, sorry, Dad disposed of the rest of the big Chrysler years ago. Oh well. Great info video, but being a Mopar guru of that era, I knew about the different displacements of the 3 families of early Hemi's.
Hi Jay!: Really enjoyed the coverage of the early Hemis!! I bet that Plymouth DOHC V-6 would have been something else!! Too bad they never produced that! I'm intrigued with the little Dodge Baby Hemi! Interesting. If I was to pick one, since I kind of like DeSoto's it would be that dual carb one from 1957.
That was another term that I saw.. did you see the De Soto fire flight advertisement the fire flight V8 made more power than the hemi.. 200 hp in fireflight vs 185 in firedome
Really interesting. I've been a HEMI fan for decades, but didn't realize there were so many displacements among the various Chrysler lines. I note that several were "under-square" designs, which should produce more torque. Also, Chrysler's Marine HEMIs were the ultimate in gasoline engines for small boats, back in the '50s. I think the Marine versions were only offered in 331 and 354 cubic inch displacements. You ask which I would choose - obviously the 392 cubic inch design. Bigger is always better! But, the 426 versions, Gen II, were the best of the lot. And they featured cross-bolt main caps, and other goodies. They are still the gold standard to which others compare. Now displacements range from 426, 528, 572, and even 610 (10-liter) versions. For me, the Ray Barton/Keith Black 528 CID would be the ultimate street ( or racing) engine. In 1967, the HEMI option for the GTX was $650, which was a ton of money back then. That seems like a pittance today. Anyway, that's why I "settled" for the standard 440 in my GTX, which was a great street engine, but lacked the "mystique" of the HEMI badge. Chrysler's legendary HEMI engines still have that aura of performance and desirability that no other engine can ever hope to match. Thanks for a great video.
Glad you dig this video =) even more so than that I’m so happy that you got something out of it I couldn’t believe how many different displacement they offered could you imagine how much that would cost to do maybe that’s where all of Chrysler’s money went
My Brother's first car was a 1953 Dodge Coronet 2-door hardtop. The colors were cream over maroon. It was a really nice looking car. The little Red Ram hemi was a strong engine with lots of torque. The only drawback was the transmission - it had the "Gyro-Torque" box which was just a really strange transmission. Once you got use to it, it worked great, but was not a good transmission for trying to drag race other cars. He is now 80 years old and still misses this car....
Wow it’s not to late to get a car like that back you’ll be amazed at what can be found on Facebook market place.. that would be one hell of a gift to give to your brother if you could find a couple people to go half with you.
My father's parents had a '54 "Royal". It had the little Red Ram and I think there was a 4 barrel carburetor on a rather large silvery manifold that stuck up higher than most. It only had a 2 speed "Powerflyte" and was slow off the line but could keep accelerating and building until at around 60 mph it would accelerate faster than the majority of cars could at that speed making for an astounding kickdown passing acceleration from about 45 or 50 mph up to about 80. I would be surprised if that thing topped out at anything much less than 120 mph. Yet it was slower off the line than a 1950 Pontiac. Some time around 1962 the car was given to my father. I think his father had bought it new for his wife (my grandmother) and when she developed cataract and stopped driving they didn't need the car anymore since he (Grandfather) had acquired a year or two old 1960 Chrysler New Yorker. The Powerflyte eventually began slipping in high gear which prompted my father to get rid of it and replace it with a 1959 Ford which he believed to have been quicker than the 1960 Chrysler. Not sure if that Ford had the 352 engine in it,the brother of my father who was a police officer had '59 Ford take home car and an almost identical looking car of his own,the police version had some kind of Police package with a performance version of the 352 and his personal car might have also have had some kind of 352. I believe most '59 Fords had 312 engines If I remember the Red Ram had a slightly uneven idle,almost like a hotride big cam duration engine but it might have just been a slight spark plug gap or carburetor idle mixture misadjustment.
Excellent ! You should do one on the direct evolution of the 1956 poly "A" series into the "LA" series into the "Magnum" series (Including V10, Viper versions) into todays gen 3 Hemi !! Hint.... They are all architecturally related, with numerous common hard points. (Also hint, there are two different poly engine families, only one of them is directly related to todays gen 3 Hemi).
I love orphan cars that car should’ve gotten praise in 57 for being as good as it was instead I got swept under the rug as being a failed experiment.. even tho it was the fastest car in the world was suppressed because nothing can be better than the corvette
That’s awesome =) I always tell people nothing beats Chrysler in the 50s as far as space goes.. there is way more space in a Chrysler than any other product from the big three.. I can’t compare it with the independents The four doors are almost like limousines the two-door model is like a standard four-door model or put it a different way the two-door model has as much space as a four-door Chevy.. it’s absolutely crazy
Currently own the 56 Adventurer with the 341 dual carb hemi (320 horse). Very beautiful car and a nice ride with plenty of power. Bad gas mileage of course, but who cares, right?
That’s a stellar car and probably my favorite adventurer Just curious where are you located those cars are really rare really hard to find I haven’t seen one ever in the flesh.. what colors?
I drag raced when NHRA first started and 1 of the classes was C gas. The engine requirements were Chevy 6 cylinders, Ford 6 cylinders,Plymouth hemi. I knew that even with less ci ins I could beat 6 cylinders inline, and I did. The hemi was installed in a 1937 Ford coup with a zeffer 3 speed tranny.
The Hemi engine was born in... Belgium in 1904. The Pipe company made the first car with an hemispherical engine, actually two- both straight four engines of either 3.7 liters or a massive 8.3 liter monster. Unfortunately, the Pipe company was over-run during World War I and would not survive the carnage.
Thank you so much for that information Wild Bill I didn’t know the hemispherical combustion chamber went back that far that’s why your channel is great because it brings to light that none of this technology is new.. if you’re reading this comment go check out his channel it’s great =)
@@What.its.like. Thanks, Jay. And I think I'll make this the trivia question for tomorrow on my community page so if you're reading this thread, you'll get it right.
Do you know of any crossover of engines? I worked on a one owner 1956 Chrysler Imperial in 1985. I was getting the old car out of a garage and getting it running to be handed down to a family member when the owner passed away. I remembe it being a 6-volt electrical system and it said Red Ram very clearly on the valve covers. It was a hemi but it was the original motor in this car with less than 20,000 miles.
If it was an Imperial of the 1956 year model, no way could it have had a " Red Ram" Dodge engine in it from the factory #2, all Mopar beginning in 1956, were converted to 12 volt negative ground systems, to present day. I am not doubting what you say, but to find a 1956 Imperial with a Red Ram in it, tells me that someone swapped engines in that vehicle, and for what? The 6 volt positive ground system that was the Chrysler standard from beginning in 1924 to 1955, wouldn't have been enough voltage to turn that engine over, and also hooking up a negative ground car in reverse to 6 volt would have fried the electrical system. I don't understand the change? Also the car if you ever got it running, would have been grossly underpowered.
I believe the little Dodge Hemi in 1954 when equipped with the 4 barrel carburetor (I think also a dedicated higher rise intake manifold) was supposed to produce 170 horsepower.
When I was 15 a friend of the family gave me a De Soto four door sedan that had a hemi, I didn't have a drivers license yet, but I already had four cars, two 1950 Ford Customs and a 1959 Chevy El Camino with wrap around rear window and the De Soto. The De Soto had a strange transmission. it was an automatic but it had a clutch allowing you to shift or leave it in auto. I never liked that car, it was a long time ago, but as I remember it was an "old mans car." Care to guess which of the group everyone gravitated too? One of my Ford Customs was an old police cruiser, with spot lights, fender skirts, visor. and I could put 6 to 8 kids in the trunk and sneak into the drive inn movies.. But I loved the El Camino, 283, hurst shifter, Black on Red with red pinstriping and chrome moonie's. It was soo cool..
The only hemi to make it into K-cars was a Mitsubishi 2.6 known for mediocrity in performance and life expectancy. Its numbers were only slightly better than the Chrysler 2.2 litre non-Hemi. By 1985 the 2.2 got stroked to 2.5 litres plus a balance shaft was added so they could dump the Mitsu 2.6 Hemi and still offer an in-house option that exceeded the Mitsu’s power and smoothness at lower cost.
@@peters8758 Cool I learned something new today. I remember working on a K Car Wagon that had the Wood Decal with the Hemi. Honestly I would love to get a hold of one and take it to a machine shop and dissect it and then rebuild it to our Modern Day Standards.
My understanding is that the Hemi was large, heavy and complex. The advantage was it could make TONS of horsepower when modified, especially when supercharged. Dominated dragstrips back in the day. I think the biggest and baddest of the first gen was a 392 ci version? Never owned one, always wanted the experience. Mopar guys, weigh in here!
Yes you’re right the biggest and baddest Chrysler was the 392 the biggest and baddest De Soto was at 345 and the biggest and baddest Dodge with the 235.. nothing interchanges between any of those engines which is crazy can you imagine the cost that that would cost just in tooling alone. When researching this episode I’ve seen lots of super charged first generation Chrysler hemi engines I should’ve also included that these engines cost more to rebuild parts are more expensive.. and so on I’m going to put all the pictures of all the advertisement pieces from this on the Facebook page there’s a couple pieces that I failed to put in the episode itself
The original 331 or whatever it was got quickly recognized as the engine for racing,I believe someone named Briggs Cunningham developed it all of the way to 300 hp. starting from an Industrial model. Chrysler eventually raised it to 300 hp. in a production car and hence named the car the "Chrysler 300" America's first production car with 300 hp in 1955 but at least some of them only had two forward gears automatic transmission. I believe the little '54 Dodge engine although somewhat sluggish off the line could eventually hit 120 mph. in the Dodge car (little torque but revved like crazy for a car of that era)
Fantastic video , the FirePower engine series is my favorite !!! My choice of this series would be the 417 Donovan , or a 392 using 1955 331 heads . Some points to add to the presentation - These engines were designed around the available fuel quality of the late 1940's which had an octane rating of about 60 . This is why the compression of the first 331's was 7.5 to 1 . The fuel octane would get higher throughout the 1950's and allow for higher compression ratios ( as well as allowing cheaper engine designs to become viable ). - The engineers borrowed heavily from the Ardun OHV flathead conversion ( James Zeder mentions this in a few of his writings ). The " objective " was to develop " the best V8 that is possible to mass produce ". The Ardun engines gave them a working model to go by. Back then the engineers freely shared information between themselves across manufacturers. Duntov is quoted as saying that he felt " honored " regarding the Chrysler design upon it's release. - The Chrysler A311 Racing Program took a 331 and made 400 hp in 1952 . - The weight of a stock 392 is 737 lbs. Lose the cast iron intake , generator , etc. and it gets much more manageable in the weight dept. - The 392 was the engine of choice for fuel drag racing throughout the 1960's and would continue into the 1970's as the 417 Donovan. We never got to see much development of the 392 as a street engine . After it was discontinued there was an awful lot of resources invested into the wedge engines ( Max - Wedge ). The result of those efforts ended with development of the 426 hemi. And THANK YOU for mentioning that the 354 Power Giant was available in 1959 . I catch some grief in conversations if I mention that , lol.
Thank you so much for sharing all that added information.. this is a community just want the information in one place for anyone that wants it We have to keep these cars on the road =)
@@Joshcheyka Zeder mentions the Ardun conversion heads in his reports. The combustion chamber - valve arrangement is not his development but applying it into a working V-8 engine is . Allpar has these reports , you can read for yourself.
Have Chrysler Windsor 57a have The Nice polly Engine 287 hp Runns grate. (Have ignator3). Dual pieps tou low wollym..Solid car tou 100% Al orginal shet metal!!!
Yes, I miss Chrysler, At one point in my young life I had a 1968 New Yorker. It had Lockheed disk brakes and an hp 440. With the 273 rearend, this car would make 150 mph.
Early Chryslers had 7.5:1 compression and put out the same or more HP than Cadillac's 331. Some would use Cadillac higher compression Pistons in Chrysler 331 hemis for more power. I owned a 1954 New Yorker Deluxe, 2 door newport hardtop. A nice car with power steering, brakes, windows and seat as well as electric windshield wipers and the Powerflite 2 speed automatic, which was not unlike a Powerglide in operation with the same 1st gear ratio which was good to 65 mph. It had dual wheel cylinder brakes that were problematic for me. The New Yorker Deluxe shared the 235 HP 4 barrel engine with the Imperial. It was a quiet engine and would get 17-18 mpg on the highway. ladies' '
@@What.its.like. I remember car shopping with my parents in 1969. We went to the Dodge dealer and looked at Chargers. The 426 Hemi wasn't a everyday driver car, it was a drag racer. My dad's friend had a '68 Shelby GT 500KR he wanted to sell after getting 3 speeding tickets in 3 months...it was a beast...but a 4 speed. My mom wasn't having any of that. In September, my dad heard about the new '70 Chevelle SS 454 LS6 that could be had with a Turbo 400 automatic. We went down to the Chevy dealer to order one. We came home with a yellow '69 Impala. 🙄
I believe these engines all had two rocker arm shafts inside each rocker arm cover and the spark plugs were in tubes that went through the rocker arm covers and could leak oil into the place where the spark plug sat. With just one rocker arm shaft you would have had to had the intake and exhaust valves all in a single line until I think for the "poly" engine they alternated between the left and right sides of the rockers having the valve stem vs. the pushrod so that the intake and exhaust valves could have somewhat different angles and/or non linear location in the combustion chamber but not so much as in the full Hemi I am not sure but I think some of the "poly" used the same engine block as a Hemi but the cylinder heads were somewhat less expensive. Also not sure if the Dodge Hemi engine block was the origin of the first 318 engines which then got simple wedge heads and then lightened in weight (the 318 in some early 1960s trucks was heavier than the 318s found in late 1960s cars) but the light 318 probably still had a bit more meat in it than did the small Ford V8 that appeared as a 260 cubic inch version or even smaller and then eventually became the "289" and the "302",I think then a major revision with metal added to the bottom end,decks and added height to become 351 Windsor don't know why the Mustang outsold the Barracuda by so big a margin,I thought the Barracuda a bit better car especially with the panoramic rear window,the Barracuda's 225 Slant Six probably outclassed the standard six in the Mustang and the Barracuda had an optional 318 when I think the top engine in the Mustang was a 289
Ione, the 1954 to 41 red ram. The spark plugs are off side and do not go directly through the valve cover. I only take the valve covers off to adjust the valves. The valves are alternating and apparently crossflow. It runs pretty good but not on today’s gasoline. The valve pan covers are removable by two nuts on top of the valve pan cover. The valve adjustments are really easy to get to. I think the reason they league oil or watt not to the spark plugs is that sometimes you have to adjust the valves and while you’re doing that oil does good everywhere. There are no tubes that I am aware of the spark plugs go in just like any other spark plugs. It’s a lot of work to maintain this motor but I do like it and I wish I can find better gas to make it run better.
Dodge D50 ? Dodge D500 ? Are those 270 Hemis? Any of them have a decent 4 speed instead of the 2 speed auto? Did any get the improved Torqueflyte 3 speed auto?
Well yes and no. The D-500 Dodge of 1956 was the 315 Hemi, now in retrospect, the Coronet in 56, had the 270 polyhead, or the 315 poly super red ram, same as the Royal and Custom Royal models, only the D-500, models were equipped with the hemi, and if you wanted more go power, you could specify the D-500-2 at your local Dodge dealer, and that Custom Royal Lancer came with the 354 ci displacement of the 1956 Chrysler 300B, with 2 WCFB Carter 4 bbl carbs and 340 hp factory. Those cars are Ultra Rare, and most sold to the racing dynasties of that era.
As far as 4 speed transmissions, the answer is no. Chrysler offered a 3 speed manual column shift version in 1956, and Tim Flock had a horrible time with it at Daytona, but they won.
I got to review one I didn’t get to sit in it or anything like that but that was always like the pinnacle dream car to me it runs on anything that burns.. I might see about doing that car again once the base gets bigger
I suppose the biggest (392) was best and most developed but they were all "great" engines from what my "great" uncle says. Of course like most of us, the older we get, the greater we, and everything else used to be. 😉
I should have worded that differently 392 was the biggest Chrysler hemi 345 was the biggest De Soto hemi 235 was the biggest Dodge hemi It’s crazy they made that many engines and nothing is interchangeable.. maybe that’s why Chrysler went bankrupt
I lost interest when he said with flat pistons the stroke neede to be longer make compression the piston can only go to top dead center. But he is a good reader.
I was on the fence of whether or not to leave that part in.. I guess I should have taken it out They had different block deck sizes so the engine could be stoked
Cost was the only reason for its demise. The B /RB engine was cheaper & lighter. Emissions & fuel consumption were not yet really considered. Hemi's fuel consumption would likely have been better than a wedge, although its 900 odd pounds would have eaten some of the advantage. Emissions probably would have been better also, as wedge chambers are really dirty. Its hardly surprising Chrysler went back to the Hemis - shame it took until 2003!
Mate Chrysler Australia had the 265 ci Hemi Six cylinder and it had valves turned 90 deg , so North South orientation not east west like the V8 Hemi and the Aussie six is NOT a cross flow motor , because intake and exhaust are North South the intake and exhaust can be on the same side of the head , as for the spark plug location it comes in from the Aussie driver's side on a sharp downward direction ending up near the middle of the Hemispherical chamber , I see it all the time , US people saying this motor is not a Hemi because the plug does not come down the middle and the intake / exhaust is on the same side , this means nothing , the Ford 427 cammer has a Hemi chamber but the spark plug is on the intake side of the head, all that matters is the valves are on different angles , it don't matter if it's east / west or north /south and the combustion chamber is Hemispherical ! The Chrysler Australia 265ci Hemi has both these features so it is a real Hemi . If you note the current Honda CR450f Motorcross bike it has the same narrow valve angles as our 265 Hemi .
Thank you so much for adding all of that information and insight I really appreciate it I read about that Chrysler hemi in Australia and on paper that thing seems like magic and why didn’t offer it here or anywhere else is behind me..
@@What.its.like. it was originally a Dodge US engine design but was never produced so Chrysler Australia took over production , it has LA V8 bellhousing pattern , they came out in Australian RT Charger,s and sedans, utes, panel vans , the Chargers ( totally different car to the US one but same running gear) had the RT 265 ci Hemi with triple side draught Webber 50 mm Carbies they called it the Six Pack ( six barrels) mated to the Aussie Borg Warner D20 Four Speed, ( almost a copy of the Ford top loader in fact ford used later versions on 302 Cleveland motors and ford six cylinders, that's were the Borg Warner T5 5 speed came from) the 265ci Hemi in Charger RT spec with 325 HP and 376.foot pounds , it raced against Aussie Ford Falcon GTHO ,s with 351 Cleveland,s and GMH 350 chevs and many times beat them , the six,s were lighter and handled better, the Charger was also offered with the 318/360 and four barrel 340 V8 but the six was just found to be better, big blocks were tryed but too heavy, you have to remember all these cars were built for our Bathurst Mountain road race and a whole series of races all over Australia they had to go round corners and a big heavey big block don't work , look up 1972 Bathurst race and you will see them in action , its a funny Hemi engine most don't notice the valves Canted north / south and assume it's a normal six but the valves are 8 deg off set creating a Hemi chamber.
Yes it is ! It's as much a Hemi as the original is , Chrysler never produced a real 100 percent Hemi , as you would know Hemi stands for Hemispherical combustion chamber! And Hemispherical means " HALF CIRCLE" and only the old old engines had half round chambers , they are too big to make any power, Chrysler ,s Hemi V8S new or old are quarter circle at best .
I have a 1956 DeSoto 330 c.i. I was going to put into a 1941 Plymouth Business Coupe. HOT HEADS in Low Gap, N.C. said I can get 400 - 450 hp out of it without getting radical. Nothing is interchangeable with the Chrysler 331 c..i. hemi. The DeSoto hemis are strong engines. The DeSoto 345 c.i. hemi was the first engine to make 1 hp per c.i. in American cars, beat out the corvette by around 6 months. The 1941 Plymouth Business Coupe with the 330 c.i. hemi is for sale.
Awesome thank you so much for sharing your experience with this engine with us if you have a link to the advertisement where your car is for sale feel free to share it.. this is a car community I would love for one day to get it to that point where if you guys had cars for sale share them..
Sir, I think you need to go reread your history. Yes DeSoto Adventurer did create 1 horsepower per cubic inch, but the 1956 Chrysler 300B with 11.1 compression ratio did the same. 355 horse power, 340 cubic inches.
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MY FATHER'S 1957 DESOTO ADVENTURER WAS A REAL SCORCHER......THAT THING WOULD SMOKE TIRES LIKE NO ONE'S BUISINESS
I have a friend with a 57 de Soto Adventure and he tells me stories all the time he’s the second owner he’s on this car since he was a kid and he still has it which reminds me I gotta get with him.. =)
Those were BIG HEAVY HEMIS with the bellhousing cast in iron on the block
In 1970 my first car was a 1956 Fireflite, it was fast about 140mph. All the guys laughed until the rode in it. I always wanted another, two years ago I managed to get a 1956 Firedome. I'm happy again.
A lower compression hemi was used for Air Raid sirens.
Awesome information thank you so much =)
Chrysler had the most horsepower but their cars were heavy like checker cabs. the first generation hemi hot rods
1965 I built a 49 Plymouth 4 door(free car) with a 270 red ram hemi what a fun beast and sleeper. 1:08
High school bud of mine back in the late 1960s had a nice '54 Dodge Coronet with the Red Ram V8 and automatic trans. Super nice car.
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Another great engine presentation Jay. Those Hemi engines sure were fast as I know that the most powerful ones could reach speeds of up to 140 mph. I had always thought that the Plymouth "Hy-Fire" V-8 A block engine which was introduced in 1955 was also a Hemi engine, but I guess not. Apparently, so I just read, it was Polysphere. It would be great to do a video on that car along with its V-8 engine because it was quite a looker, and especially the Belvedere advertised as "the beauty of its class", much like the '55 Chevy Bel Air was with its new V-8 engine. Also, it would be a treat if you did a presentation on a '49-'50 Chrysler with its old In-line straight 8 engine. Not a car that discussed much these days, but a great set of wheels nonetheless; or perhaps one of those neat looking '46-'48 Chrysler coupes or convertibles and especially that Town and Country convertible. A true beauty. So many in fact left to cover. I will thus eagerly look forward to your next What's It Like video.
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Well there you go, you learn something every day. I did not know that each divisions hemi were distinct and separate from each other. The Hemis were physicaliy large , expensive to manufacture and heavy. Great vid , thx.
Glad you dig this episode so happy you got something out of it =)
As always, your videos are 'spot on'.
I grew up with Chrysler -
1950 Dodge Coronet (I remember going with Mama - my first car-buying memory)
1951 Chrysler Imperial
1954 Chrysler New Yorker (gramma)
1955 DeSoto Coronado
1958 Plymouth Belvedere (gramma)
1960 Matador
1962 Lancer GT
1962 Dart 440 (gramma)
1964 Chrysler 300 (my first new car)
1966 Crown Imperial
1973 New Yorker Brougham
1976 New Yorker
A 1955 De Soto Coronado is a very rare car as I believe it was offered only one year and just as a four door sedan in the Fireflite series. From what I read about it, it was introduced in the spring of 1955 but how it differed from the regular De Soto Fireflite four door sedan I do not know. It's a great name however, and De Soto should have employed it as the flagship of their brand instead of using it just once.
@@8176morgan Yes, it was a special car. There were a few unique trim pieces and its own interior and the New Yorker's Hemi.
Rarer still was the 1954 Firedome Coronado offered late-Spring - came as a 2-tone in tan and greenie blue with a blue interior.
.Dodge had the LeFemme, Chrysler had the C300 and DeSoto offered the Coronado.
@@jerrycallender9927 Yes, that '54 Coronado is definitely quite the rare bird as I had never heard of it before plus it isn't listed in my classic car catalogue, although the '55 Coronado appears there. It looks as if that they were offered only those two years and during the spring season in order to help increase sales. When growing up, our neighbors across the street were big MOPAR fans. All they ever had were Chrysler made cars as well as a red Dodge truck. They had a De Soto back in the 1950's but that was before my time. One of their kids who was the same age as me told me on more than one occasion that Dodge, and they had a '66 Dodge Coronet back then, didn't build the most fancy looking cars but made very good engines. Probably true, a lot better than our family car which was a white 1961 Pontiac Tempest station wagon. It had only 4 cylinders and just 115 hp, believe it or not, and was constantly giving us trouble. Worst car I ever encountered in my life by far - but eventually my parents wised-up and switched to AMC Ramblers which it could be said were decent and dependable automobiles.
My 61 d100 had a 331 in it with the original 3spd "to the motor" it had everything you needed and more for hauling wood .... Damn I miss that old rusty ass truck👍👍👍
Absolutely outstanding, get me a steam shovel to dig this effort! Of note - Chrysler’s early electronic fuel injection system rights were sold to Bosch, who worked and perfected it for the German auto companies. I’d pick the 392. Also interesting to note - these were developed as hemi engines from the start, the 426 doesn’t get quite the same distinction. Thank you as always ~ Chuck
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Driving my 1956 Dodge 315 ci D500 Hemi custom Royal Lancer I won my class in the 1987 and 1988 La Carrera classic vintage road race in the Baja Mexico. The race was 200 km 124 MI from Ensenada the Pacific coast up to 4,000 ft in the mountains then down to San Felipe on the Gulf of California. In 1987 the Dodge actually beat every sports car built before 1957. Including Jaguars Ferraris Mercedes Porsches ECT. Completely stock except for safety equipment It averaged 88.6 mph for the distance reaching 135 on the straightaways truly a world-class automobile.
Great story thank you so much for sharing that story great memory
What was your favorite car you’ve owned and why did you dig it?
I had a 55 DeSoto 291 4 barrel it got 200 hp. it ran great! boy do I MISS that car!!
55 De Soto is the stellar year what body style the wagons are gorgeous (as are all the others but wagons are rare)
@@What.its.like. It had the Coronado package, it made the whole interior very upscale
The big Chrysler Hemi was certainly an impressive engine to look at, especially when fitted with the two four barrel intake of the 300’s. An impressive start for their first attempt at a V8 engine, when you realize it was the go to engine all through the 50’s and most of the 60’s, when supercharged and on nitro. It is the gen 2 Street Hemi’s that are a big part of my life.
Thank you for sharing all this good information. Love the Chrysler family. Best wishes 😊👋🐿
That is awesome video j..you do a terrific job narrating your videos. I sure learned something today.
Do you wanna hear something funny I wrote the script last night when I got back from the car show and I put this together today episodes take longer to put together I was hoping to get done before the 430 timeslot that I try to have all the videos done by I did the Delta 88 video last night but I didn’t get it done until midnight and I didn’t wanna post it then.. and I couldn’t post it tomorrow because tomorrow’s going to be the 1964 Studebaker work Daytona convertible really awesome car.. =)
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The hemi series of engines are quite frankly some of the most brutally powerful engines ever made. The 426 is just an awesome engine all the way around. I'm glad you featured these engines in this video.
It always surprised me that Chrysler DeSoto Dodge all had hemis but they're all different and different sizes and displacements. That must have been a nightmare for parts interchangeability if that was even possible for those.
Id choose the 426 hemi.
I was also happy to hear that you're going to be doing the polyhead engines. I owned a 64 Dodge that had that engine and it was a real good strong solid motor. But completely overshadowed and overlooked by its big brother hemi's and his little brother small blocks.
I wasn’t 100% sure where to draw the line if I should do all the Chrysler corporation 1st gen hemi engines in one episode do De Soto and dodge in another episode.. But figured even though they’re different it should be discussed at the same time there was a lot of cool information I didn’t know about I didn’t know about the Bendix Electrojector being offered. I felt like I hit the jackpot once I found that information like those ads and illustrations and drawings pertaining to that very rare set up.
I’m with you it would’ve cost a fortune and maybe that’s where all Chrysler‘s money went frankly constantly changing blocks and tooling costs.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience =)
@@What.its.like. I don't know if it is mentioned in the video , but the 3 product lines are exactly the same design only scaled down , Chrysler , DeSoto , Dodge respectively . And there was no intent to have anything interchange between them , GM and Ford also had very different engine designs within the " sub - brands " . This was the first of many bad ideas ( imo ) , I mean they all could have just used the same Chrysler engine with different branded valve covers or something. But the way the engine series was dropped entirely was just idiotic .
The Bendix system was found to suffer from electrical interference from sources such as power lines ( I believe that someone figured this out in the 1980's with a rare surviving system ). They concluded that a little bit of shielding on wires and components would have fixed this. Smithberg Racing did a 354 for the Engine Masters competition back in 2017 or so , they used an EFI system and placed a black box in that location ( and a retro '" Electojector " written on it , lol ).
The 426 is a different engine family altogether . And the reason that it exists at all is because the big block wedge heads would not perform even close to what the early hemi would. The " Max Wedge " program ended with the engineers throwing up their hands in defeat .
Question - have you ever worked on any of the engines you review? My first mother in law had a 55 Dodge with the 270 cu inch hemi. A Custom Royal Lancer Ran great quick for the day. She drove it for 25 years. When I worked as a mechanic, worked on a number of Hemi engines. All held up well. Yep, more than anything else it was cost that sent them away, until brought back out.
To be honest I never rebuilt an engine but it is something I would love to do one day on the channel..
I know that at least one source is showing the 331 Firepower engine weighing almost 1,000 pounds, but I doubt this. Other sources state the 331's weight at 693 pounds, which is more in line with other engine weights from the era. A 1957-1958 392 Chrysler Hemi is listed at 737 pounds, and I believe that the early 331, 354 and 392 blocks were close to being the same. A 426 Hemi weighs 843 pounds, and that makes it one of the heaviest engines created for automotive use during the mid-century era. (The early Chrysler Hemi engines are very confusing, especially when you include the Desoto and Dodge engines. I have never known why Chrysler made so many different versions of these engines. It cost them a fortune to do so.)
I had a chart that I totally forgot to put on the video showing all the different engines and all of the different weights the 331 I believe weighed about 800 pounds let me see if I can find it and I’ll link it in here
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Great informative video! I drive a 1955 Plymouth Belvedere with the 260ci Polysphere V8. Powerhouse! Fun.
Your car sounds awesome thank you so much for sharing it with us =)
392 HEMI for me, please.
Forty years ago, I had a 1957 Imperial... Like the New Yorker it had a 325 HP single 4 BBL 392 Hemi. It was a survivor car with 51K miles and an engine that had never been apart. This was also the first year of the 3-speed Torqueflite automatic. Together, they moved a nearly 5000 lb. luxury barge with ease. Wish I had been able to keep it all these years.
I loved the little Red Ram. That 4.0 displacement really shocked me. I knew about the hemi V8. But never knew about the 241.
It’s crazy that dodges biggest hemi v8 was the same displacement as a Chevy 235 six..
I own a 1954, 241 red ram. According to the serial numbers and what dodge told me, it’s rated at 240 hp. It’s very heavy and not too bad as far as being snappy. The transmission has two pumps on it. When I purchased it, it was just an engine and transmission. I put it down in a 64 falcon but I had all kinds of firewall problems because the transmission is so large. I finally got it to mound up and I drove it forever like that. I eventually pulled it out and put it into a S 10 because I didn’t have anywhere else to put it, but it worked out very good for me. Today it’s still inside a Chevy S 10 pick up truck and I fired up occasionally. It runs like crap on today’s gasoline though. To get it to fit in both vehicles, I had to cut the firewall completely out. I had to put all kinds of new metal into it. Makes a pretty nice burn out machine. Carburetor is about the size of a canna pop, but I always wanted to find a larger carburetor for it.
I had a half dozen or more Fire Power engines from 331 to 392. Now I only have a 426 Elephant Hemi for my Cuda.
Thank you for featuring the hemi, an engine I've heard a lot about but have never experienced. I always heard they were phenomenal but very expensive.
Can you image how much tooling costs on three different engines would be and then change every couple years... if Chrysler didn’t do that they would probably still have money to this very day hahaha
Love your informative videos. I drive a very low miles 55 Plymouth with Polyhead V8 260 with AT. It sounds and runs like a small and powerful HEMI. She goes!
Thank you so much for your dig the channel =)
Which room of 55 Plymouth do you have? I absolutely love the 55 Plymouth it’s one of my favorite forward look cars they don’t look big but they’re absolutely huge on the inside the front shares, the same design cues that Lincoln and Packard have, which are both more expensive cars than the Plymouth
I owned a 1957 Imperial with a 392 Hemi. That car would haul ass! I also had a 1953 Dodge 241 Hemi with the Gyro-Matic fluid drive. If it was shifted from Lo range to Hi range it would go fairly well. If it was left in Hi range all the time it was a turd. Then I had a 1956 Dodge 270 Red Ram hemi in a 1956 Dodge pickup. It was a transplanted hemi. The original engine was a poly head and it was long gone by the time I got the truck. I put a pair of shorty headers on it and an Offenhauser 3x2 intake with three 97s. That really woke it up! With a Mopar A390 all synchro three speed and a 3.55 rear I could get rubber in all gears and it pulled hard like a locomotive. This little hemi could run with bigger v8s. I was truly impressed.
Awesome information thank you so much for sharing those stories great memories =)
While I've owed one of each of the early Hemis, the one that stood out was the 331 Chrysler in 300HP. From the factory, it had Dual Carter 4 barrels, adjustable Rocker arms and a dual point distributor, all factory. BTW, the valve covers with dimples between the spark plug holes were for adjustable rocker arm clearance. I went through the engine using the services of a old Swedish machinist (Garn) who had built a early Hemi (392) engine for a local National record holder in the 1/4 mile. I installed .60" over Jahn's pistons, Isky cam. Back then(1973), B&M made a adapter that allowed the use of a newer 727 auto transmission, I also used one of their short tail shaft and manual valve body kits. This engine was installed in a fiber glassed bodied, Austin Bantam roadster.
Thank you so much fir sharing all of that insight
I own a 331 Hemi and a 392 Hemi Both are out of vehicles, both engines are absolute monsters!!!
Awesome what cars are they in?
My first vintage car was a 1953 Dodge Coronet with 241 Hemi and gyro matic semi automatic. That I bought in 1979 for $325. Started my 45 + years of collecting restoring and racing vintage mopars. That a little Hemi ran so well it was hard to believe it was only 241 cubic inches.
Thank you so much for sharing those memories =)
Dear Mr. Fantasy, Traffic 👍💪.Great episode. Love them old Chrysler products!
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I had heard that the reason the FI design failed was lack of shielding from radio and ignition electronic interference. It was said that a simple copper shield could have proved the design reliable and superior to carburetor. Thanks for sharing, you do a good job, very informative. 👍
This story caused something of a stir when it came out some years ago. I think the fellow who got to the bottom of the problem is an electrical engineer. In addition to the EMI/RFI problems, he found that the cheap, wax paper capacitors used in the control unit were also problematic and not up to the harsh life of an under-hood car component.
@@randyrobey5643 typically Chrysler to use cheap components. 👍☺️
@@randyrobey5643exactly! Not just the caps these were very early days for solid state components. Transistors were discrete components. I could not rule out that actual radio tubes might have been used. My 60 Buick has a tube type radio. The first VW radios called Sapphire X radios with the X being the number of discrete transistors utilized.
@@terribelbliss9646 The control units were built by Bendix, so the fault was on them.
My Dad had a 1954 Chrysler New Yorker then a 1957 Imperial Crown with the 392 Hemi. Big beautiful car with effortless highway cruising. My uncle was a Desoto man and had a ‘55 then a ‘56 Desoto Fireflite. Both were green and not so fast compared to the Imperial.
We had a close family friend who had a 1955 Chrysler 300. We went on lot's of trips in that car! The owner said that he had it up to 126 mph , but the pedal wasn't floored either.
These Chryslers with Hemis, from the middle of 1953 to the middle of 1956 only had 2-speed Powerflites, if automatic and the Imperial got the new 3-spoeed Torqueflite in the middle of 1956. Our family friends had both the 1955 300 and a 1956 Imperial.
Speaking of the polyspherical V8 The Chrysler Windsors had, I believe, the 318 c.i. version in 1955-6. I was blown away when I saw several of these cars because I thought all Chryslers had the 331 Hemi.
Yeah I remember seeing that, I still can’t believe the 300 with the two speed powerflite I can’t remember did they offer a three speed manual because if I remember correctly that was the biggest drawback to that car it had all the power in the world but couldn’t go anywhere because the transmission..
I should rephrase that the 300 was fast it just wasn’t quick
@@What.its.like. Come to think of it, I think they did offer a 3-speed manual, but I've never seen one.
Drag racers used to prefer 2-speed automatics. At some retro drag races I've been to, 2 rails had the virtually identical Hemi's, but one had a 2-speed Powerflite and the other had a 3-speed Torqueflite. The one with the 2-speed ate the other car for lunch.
As a side-step, when Briggs Cunningham was building his sports cars, often they were sold as rolling bodies and the buyer had to put his own drivetrain in. However, some left the factory complete. One of our customers had one, a C-4. It had a 331 Chrysler Hemi, with a custom Cunningham intake manifold which had 4 2Bbl carbs. It also had a 3-speed manual transmission. Because there were so many variations in Cunninghams, there were no specs. We ended up swapping in a 4-speed manual. After that, the car raced in a vintage gentleman's race at Laguna-Seca.
Several years after that, this kid went to work for us as a step and fetch it. His name was Briggs Cunningham III(or maybe IV). He was the grandson or great grandson of THE Biggs Cunningham!
The 1955 Chrysler Windsors, had 301 ci. Polyhead engines, in 1956, that engine was bored to 331 ci, but still a poly engine ,only the 300, New Yorker, and Imperial got the Hemi's.
Good job. Does need to be remembered. Now look up the 57 olds j2 engine.
I would like to see a video on the Poly head engines. One interesting fact is that the modern "Hemi" engine combustion chamber is more similar to the Poly combustion chamber than the 426 "Elephant" engines.
definitely going to cover both of those =)
I own a '56 Fire power in my '56 Imperial. It also has the first 3 speed torque flite trans, not available in the '56 sales brochure. It will run happily all day or night on todays interstates at 75mph, and gas milage really isn't that bad for what it is.
1956 300B, to love one is to own one. My dad picked up a complete 56 300B in 1962, for an unheard of sum of $175.00 USD. No it wasn't a junker, and no it wasn't beat up. The car was extremely presentable. And for all you performance guys, it had the factory 355 hp engine. It would scream. I still have the engine and transmission out of that car, sorry, Dad disposed of the rest of the big Chrysler years ago. Oh well. Great info video, but being a Mopar guru of that era, I knew about the different displacements of the 3 families of early Hemi's.
What great memories thank you so much for sharing them =)
Hi Jay!: Really enjoyed the coverage of the early Hemis!! I bet that Plymouth DOHC V-6 would have been something else!! Too bad they never produced that! I'm intrigued with the little Dodge Baby Hemi! Interesting. If I was to pick one, since I kind of like DeSoto's it would be that dual carb one from 1957.
Yeah I was dumbed that no pictures or drawings at least I couldn’t find them
Back in the day when these where new, Chrysler didn't use the term "hemi" for these engines. Instead they referred to them as a "double rocker V8".
That was another term that I saw.. did you see the De Soto fire flight advertisement the fire flight V8 made more power than the hemi.. 200 hp in fireflight vs 185 in firedome
Really interesting. I've been a HEMI fan for decades, but didn't realize there were so many displacements among the various Chrysler lines. I note that several were "under-square" designs, which should produce more torque. Also, Chrysler's Marine HEMIs were the ultimate in gasoline engines for small boats, back in the '50s. I think the Marine versions were only offered in 331 and 354 cubic inch displacements. You ask which I would choose - obviously the 392 cubic inch design. Bigger is always better! But, the 426 versions, Gen II, were the best of the lot. And they featured cross-bolt main caps, and other goodies. They are still the gold standard to which others compare. Now displacements range from 426, 528, 572, and even 610 (10-liter) versions. For me, the Ray Barton/Keith Black 528 CID would be the ultimate street ( or racing) engine. In 1967, the HEMI option for the GTX was $650, which was a ton of money back then. That seems like a pittance today. Anyway, that's why I "settled" for the standard 440 in my GTX, which was a great street engine, but lacked the "mystique" of the HEMI badge. Chrysler's legendary HEMI engines still have that aura of performance and desirability that no other engine can ever hope to match. Thanks for a great video.
Glad you dig this video =) even more so than that I’m so happy that you got something out of it I couldn’t believe how many different displacement they offered could you imagine how much that would cost to do maybe that’s where all of Chrysler’s money went
My Brother's first car was a 1953 Dodge Coronet 2-door hardtop. The colors were cream over maroon. It was a really nice looking car. The little Red Ram hemi was a strong engine with lots of torque. The only drawback was the transmission - it had the "Gyro-Torque" box which was just a really strange transmission. Once you got use to it, it worked great, but was not a good transmission for trying to drag race other cars. He is now 80 years old and still misses this car....
Wow it’s not to late to get a car like that back you’ll be amazed at what can be found on Facebook market place.. that would be one hell of a gift to give to your brother if you could find a couple people to go half with you.
My father's parents had a '54 "Royal". It had the little Red Ram and I think there was a 4 barrel carburetor on a rather large silvery manifold that stuck up higher than most. It only had a 2 speed "Powerflyte" and was slow off the line but could keep accelerating and building until at around 60 mph it would accelerate faster than the majority of cars could at that speed making for an astounding kickdown passing acceleration from about 45 or 50 mph up to about 80.
I would be surprised if that thing topped out at anything much less than 120 mph. Yet it was slower off the line than a 1950 Pontiac. Some time around 1962 the car was given to my father. I think his father had bought it new for his wife (my grandmother) and when she developed cataract and stopped driving they didn't need the car anymore since he (Grandfather) had acquired a year or two old 1960 Chrysler New Yorker.
The Powerflyte eventually began slipping in high gear which prompted my father to get rid of it and replace it with a 1959 Ford which he believed to have been quicker than the 1960 Chrysler. Not sure if that Ford had the 352 engine in it,the brother of my father who was a police officer had '59 Ford take home car and an almost identical looking car of his own,the police version had some kind of Police package with a performance version of the 352 and his personal car might have also have had some kind of 352. I believe most '59 Fords had 312 engines
If I remember the Red Ram had a slightly uneven idle,almost like a hotride big cam duration engine but it might have just been a slight spark plug gap or carburetor idle mixture misadjustment.
Excellent ! You should do one on the direct evolution of the 1956 poly "A" series into the "LA" series into the "Magnum" series (Including V10, Viper versions) into todays gen 3 Hemi !! Hint.... They are all architecturally related, with numerous common hard points. (Also hint, there are two different poly engine families, only one of them is directly related to todays gen 3 Hemi).
Kudos for knowing the 57 Rambler Rebel also ran Bendix fuel injection. Most folks don't know that.
I love orphan cars that car should’ve gotten praise in 57 for being as good as it was instead I got swept under the rug as being a failed experiment.. even tho it was the fastest car in the world was suppressed because nothing can be better than the corvette
My second car was a 241 hemi Dodge with the awkward teo speed semi-automatic.. Roomy and comfy.
That’s awesome =) I always tell people nothing beats Chrysler in the 50s as far as space goes.. there is way more space in a Chrysler than any other product from the big three.. I can’t compare it with the independents The four doors are almost like limousines the two-door model is like a standard four-door model or put it a different way the two-door model has as much space as a four-door Chevy.. it’s absolutely crazy
Currently own the 56 Adventurer with the 341 dual carb hemi (320 horse). Very beautiful car and a nice ride with plenty of power. Bad gas mileage of course, but who cares, right?
That’s a stellar car and probably my favorite adventurer
Just curious where are you located those cars are really rare really hard to find I haven’t seen one ever in the flesh.. what colors?
Oklahoma City. Your welcome to stop by! Its Jet Black and Adventurer Gold. Mint condition.
I race the old hemi engines in the 1960's and there was a Plymouth engine and I used it.
Sweet =)
I drag raced when NHRA first started and 1 of the classes was C gas. The engine requirements were Chevy 6 cylinders, Ford 6 cylinders,Plymouth hemi. I knew that even with less ci ins I could beat 6 cylinders inline, and I did. The hemi was installed in a 1937 Ford coup with a zeffer 3 speed tranny.
The Hemi engine was born in... Belgium in 1904. The Pipe company made the first car with an hemispherical engine, actually two- both straight four engines of either 3.7 liters or a massive 8.3 liter monster. Unfortunately, the Pipe company was over-run during World War I and would not survive the carnage.
Thank you so much for that information Wild Bill I didn’t know the hemispherical combustion chamber went back that far that’s why your channel is great because it brings to light that none of this technology is new.. if you’re reading this comment go check out his channel it’s great =)
@@What.its.like. Thanks, Jay. And I think I'll make this the trivia question for tomorrow on my community page so if you're reading this thread, you'll get it right.
Yup! And the the first pentroof 4 valve cylinder head was from 1913 Peugeot
Sic sorry.
In Australia we had the 215, 245 and 265 straight six.
Sweet =)
Yes the 215ci , 245 ci and 265ci Aussie Hemi Six Cylinder was a grate motor , it beat the 340 ci LA and 318/360 ci V8S .
I bought a Toyota SR5 in 1979 with a Toyota HEMI. Good performance though by 1982 I was blowing head gaskets.
The Toyota Hemi was a direct copy of the Chrysler Hemi in fact Chrysler sold tooling to Toyota to build the first Hemi they ever made !
Do you know of any crossover of engines? I worked on a one owner 1956 Chrysler Imperial in 1985. I was getting the old car out of a garage and getting it running to be handed down to a family member when the owner passed away. I remembe it being a 6-volt electrical system and it said Red Ram very clearly on the valve covers. It was a hemi but it was the original motor in this car with less than 20,000 miles.
If it was an Imperial of the 1956 year model, no way could it have had a " Red Ram" Dodge engine in it from the factory #2, all Mopar beginning in 1956, were converted to 12 volt negative ground systems, to present day. I am not doubting what you say, but to find a 1956 Imperial with a Red Ram in it, tells me that someone swapped engines in that vehicle, and for what? The 6 volt positive ground system that was the Chrysler standard from beginning in 1924 to 1955, wouldn't have been enough voltage to turn that engine over, and also hooking up a negative ground car in reverse to 6 volt would have fried the electrical system. I don't understand the change? Also the car if you ever got it running, would have been grossly underpowered.
I believe the little Dodge Hemi in 1954 when equipped with the 4 barrel carburetor (I think also a dedicated higher rise intake manifold) was supposed to produce 170 horsepower.
When I was 15 a friend of the family gave me a De Soto four door sedan that had a hemi, I didn't have a drivers license yet, but I already had four cars, two 1950 Ford Customs and a 1959 Chevy El Camino with wrap around rear window and the De Soto. The De Soto had a strange transmission. it was an automatic but it had a clutch allowing you to shift or leave it in auto. I never liked that car, it was a long time ago, but as I remember it was an "old mans car." Care to guess which of the group everyone gravitated too? One of my Ford Customs was an old police cruiser, with spot lights, fender skirts, visor. and I could put 6 to 8 kids in the trunk and sneak into the drive inn movies.. But I loved the El Camino, 283, hurst shifter, Black on Red with red pinstriping and chrome moonie's. It was soo cool..
Cool story =) thank you for sharing those memories
Hi, I bet you didn’t know that Mopar made a 2.4 liter Hemi that was in the K-Car.
Going to cover that engine one day as well I heard it was a hemi never looked into it before
It was made by Mitsubishi. I've worked on many of those, back in the 90s
The only hemi to make it into K-cars was a Mitsubishi 2.6 known for mediocrity in performance and life expectancy. Its numbers were only slightly better than the Chrysler 2.2 litre non-Hemi. By 1985 the 2.2 got stroked to 2.5 litres plus a balance shaft was added so they could dump the Mitsu 2.6 Hemi and still offer an in-house option that exceeded the Mitsu’s power and smoothness at lower cost.
@@peters8758 Cool I learned something new today. I remember working on a K Car Wagon that had the Wood Decal with the Hemi. Honestly I would love to get a hold of one and take it to a machine shop and dissect it and then rebuild it to our Modern Day Standards.
My understanding is that the Hemi was large, heavy and complex. The advantage was it could make TONS of horsepower when modified, especially when supercharged. Dominated dragstrips back in the day. I think the biggest and baddest of the first gen was a 392 ci version? Never owned one, always wanted the experience. Mopar guys, weigh in here!
Yes you’re right the biggest and baddest Chrysler was the 392 the biggest and baddest De Soto was at 345 and the biggest and baddest Dodge with the 235.. nothing interchanges between any of those engines which is crazy can you imagine the cost that that would cost just in tooling alone.
When researching this episode I’ve seen lots of super charged first generation Chrysler hemi engines I should’ve also included that these engines cost more to rebuild parts are more expensive.. and so on I’m going to put all the pictures of all the advertisement pieces from this on the Facebook page there’s a couple pieces that I failed to put in the episode itself
The original 331 or whatever it was got quickly recognized as the engine for racing,I believe someone named Briggs Cunningham developed it all of the way to 300 hp. starting from an Industrial model. Chrysler eventually raised it to 300 hp. in a production car and hence named the car the "Chrysler 300" America's first production car with 300 hp in 1955 but at least some of them only had two forward gears automatic transmission.
I believe the little '54 Dodge engine although somewhat sluggish off the line could eventually hit 120 mph. in the Dodge car (little torque but revved like crazy for a car of that era)
A hemi head design is way more efficient than the standard wedge head used in all the other engines built.
Fantastic video , the FirePower engine series is my favorite !!! My choice of this series would be the 417 Donovan , or a 392 using 1955 331 heads . Some points to add to the presentation
- These engines were designed around the available fuel quality of the late 1940's which had an octane rating of about 60 . This is why the compression of the first 331's was 7.5 to 1 . The fuel octane would get higher throughout the 1950's and allow for higher compression ratios ( as well as allowing cheaper engine designs to become viable ).
- The engineers borrowed heavily from the Ardun OHV flathead conversion ( James Zeder mentions this in a few of his writings ). The " objective " was to develop " the best V8 that is possible to mass produce ". The Ardun engines gave them a working model to go by. Back then the engineers freely shared information between themselves across manufacturers. Duntov is quoted as saying that he felt " honored " regarding the Chrysler design upon it's release.
- The Chrysler A311 Racing Program took a 331 and made 400 hp in 1952 .
- The weight of a stock 392 is 737 lbs. Lose the cast iron intake , generator , etc. and it gets much more manageable in the weight dept.
- The 392 was the engine of choice for fuel drag racing throughout the 1960's and would continue into the 1970's as the 417 Donovan.
We never got to see much development of the 392 as a street engine . After it was discontinued there was an awful lot of resources invested into the wedge engines ( Max - Wedge ). The result of those efforts ended with development of the 426 hemi.
And THANK YOU for mentioning that the 354 Power Giant was available in 1959 . I catch some grief in conversations if I mention that , lol.
Thank you so much for sharing all that added information.. this is a community just want the information in one place for anyone that wants it
We have to keep these cars on the road =)
That is actually false, Chrysler already had hemi designs before the Ardun.
@@Joshcheyka Zeder mentions the Ardun conversion heads in his reports. The combustion chamber - valve arrangement is not his development but applying it into a working V-8 engine is . Allpar has these reports , you can read for yourself.
Excellent vidya!!
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Have Chrysler Windsor 57a have The Nice polly Engine 287 hp Runns grate. (Have ignator3). Dual pieps tou low wollym..Solid car tou 100% Al orginal shet metal!!!
First mass produced hemi was Citroen 2cv two years before the Chrysler and Citroen generally was exclusively a Hemi company!!
Great information
The P-48 LOL! I think you mean P-47 and even then all it amounted to was a couple of test aircraft.
Yep great catch yeah I was on a roll lol
One day going to show what goes into these
Yes, I miss Chrysler, At one point in my young life I had a 1968 New Yorker. It had Lockheed disk brakes and an hp 440. With the 273 rearend, this car would make 150 mph.
Early Chryslers had 7.5:1 compression and put out the same or more HP than Cadillac's 331. Some would use Cadillac higher compression Pistons in Chrysler 331 hemis for more power. I owned a 1954 New Yorker Deluxe, 2 door newport hardtop. A nice car with power steering, brakes, windows and seat as well as electric windshield wipers and the Powerflite 2 speed automatic, which was not unlike a Powerglide in operation with the same 1st gear ratio which was good to 65 mph. It had dual wheel cylinder brakes that were problematic for me. The New Yorker Deluxe shared the 235 HP 4 barrel engine with the Imperial. It was a quiet engine and would get 17-18 mpg on the highway.
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Thank you so much for sharing your experience with these engines =)
You miss Chrysler? You talking about the Hellelephant? A Challenger Demon 170? A 8.9 1/4 mile off the showroom floor?
I miss Chrysler.. I was born in 89 and by that point Chrysler was a different company.. I never knew the Chrysler on the 50-70s
@@What.its.like. I remember car shopping with my parents in 1969. We went to the Dodge dealer and looked at Chargers. The 426 Hemi wasn't a everyday driver car, it was a drag racer. My dad's friend had a '68 Shelby GT 500KR he wanted to sell after getting 3 speeding tickets in 3 months...it was a beast...but a 4 speed. My mom wasn't having any of that.
In September, my dad heard about the new '70 Chevelle SS 454 LS6 that could be had with a Turbo 400 automatic. We went down to the Chevy dealer to order one.
We came home with a yellow '69 Impala. 🙄
Most parts are not interchangeable ? Sounds like Ford, lol. Thanks for the video.
Haha yeah fords are a night mare with part interchangeability especially around 1958.. glad you dig this video =)
392 my preference
Plenty of power
426 HEMI THE BEST 1970 BEST YEAR !!
I believe these engines all had two rocker arm shafts inside each rocker arm cover and the spark plugs were in tubes that went through the rocker arm covers and could leak oil into the place where the spark plug sat.
With just one rocker arm shaft you would have had to had the intake and exhaust valves all in a single line until I think for the "poly" engine they alternated between the left and right sides of the rockers having the valve stem vs. the pushrod so that the intake and exhaust valves could have somewhat different angles and/or non linear location in the combustion chamber but not so much as in the full Hemi
I am not sure but I think some of the "poly" used the same engine block as a Hemi but the cylinder heads were somewhat less expensive. Also not sure if the Dodge Hemi engine block was the origin of the first 318 engines which then got simple wedge heads and then lightened in weight (the 318 in some early 1960s trucks was heavier than the 318s found in late 1960s cars) but the light 318 probably still had a bit more meat in it than did the small Ford V8 that appeared as a 260 cubic inch version or even smaller and then eventually became the "289" and the "302",I think then a major revision with metal added to the bottom end,decks and added height to become 351 Windsor
don't know why the Mustang outsold the Barracuda by so big a margin,I thought the Barracuda a bit better car especially with the panoramic rear window,the Barracuda's 225 Slant Six probably outclassed the standard six in the Mustang and the Barracuda had an optional 318 when I think the top engine in the Mustang was a 289
Thank you so much sharing all the insight and information =)
Ione, the 1954 to 41 red ram. The spark plugs are off side and do not go directly through the valve cover. I only take the valve covers off to adjust the valves. The valves are alternating and apparently crossflow. It runs pretty good but not on today’s gasoline. The valve pan covers are removable by two nuts on top of the valve pan cover. The valve adjustments are really easy to get to. I think the reason they league oil or watt not to the spark plugs is that sometimes you have to adjust the valves and while you’re doing that oil does good everywhere. There are no tubes that I am aware of the spark plugs go in just like any other spark plugs. It’s a lot of work to maintain this motor but I do like it and I wish I can find better gas to make it run better.
Dodge D50 ? Dodge D500 ? Are those 270 Hemis? Any of them have a decent 4 speed instead of the 2 speed auto? Did any get the improved Torqueflyte 3 speed auto?
Well yes and no. The D-500 Dodge of 1956 was the 315 Hemi, now in retrospect, the Coronet in 56, had the 270 polyhead, or the 315 poly super red ram, same as the Royal and Custom Royal models, only the D-500, models were equipped with the hemi, and if you wanted more go power, you could specify the D-500-2 at your local Dodge dealer, and that Custom Royal Lancer came with the 354 ci displacement of the 1956 Chrysler 300B, with 2 WCFB Carter 4 bbl carbs and 340 hp factory. Those cars are Ultra Rare, and most sold to the racing dynasties of that era.
As far as 4 speed transmissions, the answer is no. Chrysler offered a 3 speed manual column shift version in 1956, and Tim Flock had a horrible time with it at Daytona, but they won.
Not to mention the turbine car. Chryslers reputation at that time was of producing mobile rust buckets.
I got to review one I didn’t get to sit in it or anything like that but that was always like the pinnacle dream car to me it runs on anything that burns.. I might see about doing that car again once the base gets bigger
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I suppose the biggest (392) was best and most developed but they were all "great" engines from what my "great" uncle says. Of course like most of us, the older we get, the greater we, and everything else used to be. 😉
I should have worded that differently
392 was the biggest Chrysler hemi
345 was the biggest De Soto hemi
235 was the biggest Dodge hemi
It’s crazy they made that many engines and nothing is interchangeable.. maybe that’s why Chrysler went bankrupt
@@What.its.like. They were probably just playing fast and loose with the money they had left over from wartime production. May as well try everything.
Lenos Dobbel steam car has over 1000 ft lbs of torque. More than a big bus.
Love that car =)
Hey Jay, that 3rd Gen Hemi you spoke of isn't a true HEMI, check it out dude...... it's just Chrysler talkin' shit!
Haha yeah it’s all marketing jargon right?
I lost interest when he said with flat pistons the stroke neede to be longer make compression the piston can only go to top dead center. But he is a good reader.
I was on the fence of whether or not to leave that part in.. I guess I should have taken it out
They had different block deck sizes so the engine could be stoked
P-47
P-48!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cost was the only reason for its demise. The B /RB engine was cheaper & lighter. Emissions & fuel consumption were not yet really considered. Hemi's fuel consumption would likely have been better than a wedge, although its 900 odd pounds would have eaten some of the advantage. Emissions probably would have been better also, as wedge chambers are really dirty. Its hardly surprising Chrysler went back to the Hemis - shame it took until 2003!
Mate Chrysler Australia had the 265 ci Hemi Six cylinder and it had valves turned 90 deg , so North South orientation not east west like the V8 Hemi and the Aussie six is NOT a cross flow motor , because intake and exhaust are North South the intake and exhaust can be on the same side of the head , as for the spark plug location it comes in from the Aussie driver's side on a sharp downward direction ending up near the middle of the Hemispherical chamber , I see it all the time , US people saying this motor is not a Hemi because the plug does not come down the middle and the intake / exhaust is on the same side , this means nothing , the Ford 427 cammer has a Hemi chamber but the spark plug is on the intake side of the head, all that matters is the valves are on different angles , it don't matter if it's east / west or north /south and the combustion chamber is Hemispherical ! The Chrysler Australia 265ci Hemi has both these features so it is a real Hemi . If you note the current Honda CR450f Motorcross bike it has the same narrow valve angles as our 265 Hemi .
Thank you so much for adding all of that information and insight I really appreciate it I read about that Chrysler hemi in Australia and on paper that thing seems like magic and why didn’t offer it here or anywhere else is behind me..
@@What.its.like. it was originally a Dodge US engine design but was never produced so Chrysler Australia took over production , it has LA V8 bellhousing pattern , they came out in Australian RT Charger,s and sedans, utes, panel vans , the Chargers ( totally different car to the US one but same running gear) had the RT 265 ci Hemi with triple side draught Webber 50 mm Carbies they called it the Six Pack ( six barrels) mated to the Aussie Borg Warner D20 Four Speed, ( almost a copy of the Ford top loader in fact ford used later versions on 302 Cleveland motors and ford six cylinders, that's were the Borg Warner T5 5 speed came from) the 265ci Hemi in Charger RT spec with 325 HP and 376.foot pounds , it raced against Aussie Ford Falcon GTHO ,s with 351 Cleveland,s and GMH 350 chevs and many times beat them , the six,s were lighter and handled better, the Charger was also offered with the 318/360 and four barrel 340 V8 but the six was just found to be better, big blocks were tryed but too heavy, you have to remember all these cars were built for our Bathurst Mountain road race and a whole series of races all over Australia they had to go round corners and a big heavey big block don't work , look up 1972 Bathurst race and you will see them in action , its a funny Hemi engine most don't notice the valves Canted north / south and assume it's a normal six but the valves are 8 deg off set creating a Hemi chamber.
P47 not P48 chowder head😊
Republic P-47 not 8
Thank you for that correction
Must take note that Chrysler did not invent the hemi
What on earth is a P48? Is it anything like a P47?🤣🤣🤣
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gen 3 IS NOT a hemi.... its only a marketing name now
Yeah it’s not a true hemi
Yes it is ! It's as much a Hemi as the original is , Chrysler never produced a real 100 percent Hemi , as you would know Hemi stands for Hemispherical combustion chamber! And Hemispherical means " HALF CIRCLE" and only the old old engines had half round chambers , they are too big to make any power, Chrysler ,s Hemi V8S new or old are quarter circle at best .
I have a 1956 DeSoto 330 c.i. I was going to put into a 1941 Plymouth Business Coupe. HOT HEADS in Low Gap, N.C. said I can get 400 - 450 hp out of it without getting radical. Nothing is interchangeable with the Chrysler 331 c..i. hemi. The DeSoto hemis are strong engines. The DeSoto 345 c.i. hemi was the first engine to make 1 hp per c.i. in American cars, beat out the corvette by around 6 months. The 1941 Plymouth Business Coupe with the 330 c.i. hemi is for sale.
Awesome thank you so much for sharing your experience with this engine with us if you have a link to the advertisement where your car is for sale feel free to share it.. this is a car community I would love for one day to get it to that point where if you guys had cars for sale share them..
Sir, I think you need to go reread your history. Yes DeSoto Adventurer did create 1 horsepower per cubic inch, but the 1956 Chrysler 300B with 11.1 compression ratio did the same. 355 horse power, 340 cubic inches.
Sorry, 354 cubic inches.
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Thank you glad you dig this episode 1964 Studebaker lark Daytona is going to get pushed back until tomorrow I got half of it done but I’m currently driving or on my way to shoot something really special bucket list.. which I will share when I’m standing in front of it
@@What.its.like. Thanks for the update take your time and do your research !
@@What.its.like. Studebaker ditched the Lark name in 1964 !