Apostle I. V. Hilliard's Response to the Controversy

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 484

  • @JewellCmOOre3841
    @JewellCmOOre3841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wondered why Apostle Hilliard didn’t add the scripture in NT about being a joyful giver and
    Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.

    • @XMAN4708
      @XMAN4708 ปีที่แล้ว

      CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is No Tithe controversy for ALL those who have received revelation knowledge of it. Simply put there is no Mandatory/Demanding of Tithe or any other set amount for the Church!!! BIBLICAL GIVING IN THE NEW TESTAMENT!!!!!!!
      1. GIVING IS TO BE DONE FREELY
      2. GIVING IS TO BE DONE AS WE ARE LED OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD
      3. GIVING IS TO BE DONE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OTHERS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST
      4. GIVING IS TO BE FOR THE FURTHERANCE OF THE TRUE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM AND ALL WORKS OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD
      5. GIVING IS TO BE DONE GENEROUSLY
      6. GIVING IS TO BE DONE CONSIDERING OTHERS BEFORE OURSELVES
      7. GIVING IS THE VERY NATURE AND CHARACTER OF OUR FATHER AND IT SHOULD BE WITH US
      “Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.”
      ‭‭1 John‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬-‭18‬ ‭
      Proverbs 11:24-25 - There is that scattereth, and yet increaseth; and [there is] that withholdeth more than is meet, but [it tendeth] to poverty.
      Acts 20:35 - I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
      2 Corinthians 9:6-7 “But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.”
      ‭‭
      Matthew 6:1-34 - Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
      Hebrews 13:16 - But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.
      James 1:17 - Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
      James 4:17 - Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth [it] not, to him it is sin.
      Philippians 4:19 - But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
      Hebrews 13:5 - [Let your] conversation [be] without covetousness; [and be] content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
      Luke 14:12-14 - Then said he also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor [thy] rich neighbours; lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee.
      James 4:1 - 5:20 - From whence [come] wars and fightings among you? [come they] not hence, [even] of your lusts that war in your members?
      Acts 4:32-37 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus, Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet
      Acts 2:40-47 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.2 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

    • @TRE601
      @TRE601 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He absolutely does @16:42. That scripture applies to benevolence and good will offering - not tithing. Two totally different matters. That is why we speak of tithes and offerings.

  • @ok.s4830
    @ok.s4830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Joseph Prince and Creflo Dollar are on the same page. Creflo never said tithing is done away with... He said tithing is not a requirement to salvation. If a person wants to tithe they should do what's in thier heart. This is also Joseph Prince' stance on tithing as well.

    • @cathyshorts2972
      @cathyshorts2972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm glad we who have ears to hear and grace lenses know the truth. God bless Pastor Creflo and Taffi Dollar they are surly growing in God's Gracebased teaching and they are the best Pastors on the Planet.

    • @deepthoughts1739
      @deepthoughts1739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, tithing as they did in the Old Testament is not required today as well. It’s certainly not taught in the New Testament for us to tithe anything. Especially in the form of money. Also, If you believe tithing is a principle of 10 % of one’s income, show us with scripture. Can you do that for us?

  • @reginagrimes3403
    @reginagrimes3403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I am confused. So what is the money used for? Who is taking the money. Not tithing is not a requirement for salvation.
    Some people don’t even believe in God and are still rich and blessed. Fear and guilt are placed on church goers for nothing. God loves a cheerful giver. People can’t even afford their rent.

    • @TheonlyLadytee212
      @TheonlyLadytee212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The use of the money is really none of our concern because tithing is between the believer and God with the understanding that 100% of everything belongs to God. As far as salvation is concerned, faith in Christ is the only requirement for that but that guarantees your eternal destiny, which is no small thing! Tithing is a guarantee (in line with Malachi 3:10), that God promises to bless us, He even dares us to test Him in that. God wants us to trust Him for our daily living as well as our eternity. The intrinsic things that come with following, trusting and being obedient to God and His Word (things like peace, joy, love, patience, etc) are invaluable and I for one never, ever hear the rich and wealthy talk about such things because these things are supplied by God and can't be bought with money. God is not a deadbeat Father. He takes care of those who love and trust Him. If you can't pay your bills, stand in full faith on His Word because I can assure you of this one thing, He values His Word above His name. He doesn't play about that. Lastly, God will meet you at your level of trust because He doesn't need anyone's money, it's ALL about trust and giving Him the opportunity to bless you. When we fail to tithe, we rob Him of an opportunity to show off and get glory. Remember...IT ALL BELONGS TO HIM ANYWAY!!

    • @rhumash5977
      @rhumash5977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The earth is blessed, whoever is willing to work can succeed

    • @TheonlyLadytee212
      @TheonlyLadytee212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rhumash5977 the earth is in a fallen state and is in the hands of the enemy as evidenced by what's going on, all prophesied by the way in the Bible. Work alone or the willingness thereof won't do it. We need God! His Word is true if you truly possess faith. Some people don't truly know what that looks like and give up because they want to approach God in a fashion that best suits them and not the holiness and sovereignty of God. You can't do things with your own understanding and get God's results.

    • @rhumash5977
      @rhumash5977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheonlyLadytee212 all the technology, medical discoveries and other human achievements have been done by none Christians. The food you ate today was produced by non Christians. God has already put enough in his universe for us to prosper. We need to stop religious obsessions and go work

    • @dwaynejackson6405
      @dwaynejackson6405 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheonlyLadytee212 tithing was Never money 💰 and a one time event for levitical priesthood because they had no inheritance.Go ask research how many rich folks tithe then research how many church folks tithe.it’s all about the dollar bill 💵 for the wealthy pastor and his million dollar house and two Rose Royce wake up !

  • @jacknells2041
    @jacknells2041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I.V. Hilliard is NOT rightly dividing the word of God (2 Timothy 2:15) and is teaching with the same blinders Creflo took off. Hilliard's misguided explanation of tithing does NOT line up with Matthew 5:17 and Hebrews 8:6-13. Just because a practice of the Bible has been wrongly divided and improperly taught for decades by the masses does not make it truth of scripture.

    • @cathyshorts2972
      @cathyshorts2972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FlowerChile18 That's exactly what it is sis and this is sad

    • @ronaldalstonjr5642
      @ronaldalstonjr5642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amen to both of you blessed sisters. Who the son set free is free indeed. Hallelujah and keep speaking God’s true Word. The body needs more strong soldiers like yourselves. Hold on to God’s unchanging Hand. Shalom sisters

    • @glendaduncan7089
      @glendaduncan7089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen.
      Telling us to Not to give 10% and stll telling the people to them money but in a different way is the samething.
      TITHING IS NOT A LAW.
      TITHING IS A CONTRIBUTION TO GIVE TO THE WIDOWS AND TO THE ORPHANTS.
      SINCE WE ARE UNDER GRACE, NOW GIVING IS A GIFT FROM GOD, NOT EVERYONE GET SUCH A GIFT.
      GIFT OF GIVING: SHARING THE WORD OF GOD TO A DYING WORLD, THATS THE GIFT OF GIVING, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS HIDDEN IN BEGINNING OF TIME, AND IS NOW REVEAL IN US THROUGH JESUS
      CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR.
      SO SHARING THE WORD OF GOD ENCOURING OTHERS THE ENDURE TO THE END. THATS THE GIFT WE MUST KEEP ON GIVING.
      THE LIGHT, THE WORD.
      THATS WHY CHRIST CAME, TO REVEAL THESE THINGS TO US.
      WHAT WAS HIDDEN FROM THE WISE AND PRUDENT NOW REVEAL TO THE BABE AND SUCKLING.
      One more thing, The poor has never asked to give anything, Only the Rich.
      So is the Same in Christ, the unbeliever is never asked to share the Gospel, because they are Poor. Only the Believer who are Rich in the Lord are Asked to go out and Share the Good News of Salvation.

    • @triciaperry2234
      @triciaperry2234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is definitely a money hustler. He always sending things in the mail to send them money and this will happen.. do this and that will happen. A blessing cloth etc. On and on etc. Money hustler

    • @josephvictory4560
      @josephvictory4560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dr.Hillard is telling the truth !

  • @apostlemichaelreeves9940
    @apostlemichaelreeves9940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    As a apostle in the apostolic faith for over 40 years, and after witnessing the saints giving their tithes faithfully over the years. Many of them did not receive the results of blessings that they were taught that they would behind their tithing. But the preachers surely got a lot of good things. Using the tithes of the saints. While the saints continued to live in lack. And some even in poverty. And we all know that this is true. Jesus taught us that God now rains = blesses the just as well as the unjust. Now I have seen God do great things for people who don't believe in paying tithes. And we all know that is true. Sooo I must agree with pastor creflo dollar, that tithing is not required by God under this dispensation of grace in order to be blessed by God. And remember that when jesus spoke to the rich man concerning his giving, he told the rich man to sell what he has and then give it to the poor. Not to the priest = preacher, but he told him to give it to the poor.

    • @arielgomez637
      @arielgomez637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aslong as we have clothes and food we will be content

    • @MayfairJones
      @MayfairJones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I agree with you Apostle Michael & Pastor Creflo Dollar. The Lord gave me the SAME revelation that he gave Creflo Dollar ..a year Ago. I KNOW for myself the truth✝️

    • @thekingsplacegospeldjc4847
      @thekingsplacegospeldjc4847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FlowerChile18 Exactly!!😯🤔

    • @broedwardgreshamjr9255
      @broedwardgreshamjr9255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They were still under the law of Moses even st that time. So to be perfect he was to give to the poor. But what priesthood are we under now? The order of Melchesidec, in whom Abraham paid tithes of all. So how can one have the faith of Abraham and not pay tithes. After all his was blessed when he paid tithes, as Heb 7 concludes. So one can't follow the High Priest of our profession if we don't have the same faith as Abrham did. Tithes are still required because The Lord didn't change.

    • @ronaldalstonjr5642
      @ronaldalstonjr5642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@broedwardgreshamjr9255 Bro, you have been bamboozled. You seem like a sincere believer, so tell me this, you follow Jesus, right? Did Jesus tithe?
      Truly study to show yourself approved and you will find the answer. And the answer won't be your breakthrough, the understanding of your answer will be your breakthrough. God bless

  • @marcogonzalez2489
    @marcogonzalez2489 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have continued to tithe for 25 years or so and to be completely honest the windows of heaven that would be open and poured over me that I won’t have room enough to hold has never ever happened..Jesus warned us that in the last days people would be lovers of themselves and to not be deceived and to be on guard.. I believe we are to love God and love the poor and homeless

  • @Nahnie-jb8wo
    @Nahnie-jb8wo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you, Apostle Hilliard, for addressing this. I tithe and will never stop. God has been too good to me to stop. And my testimony is when I started tithing, my financial world opened up. Prior to tithing, I'd give $10 here and there and could never get ahead financially. My credit score shot up, I bought a house, I was promoted and salary increased at work. I'd been praying for a husband and was soon blessed with a husband who earns more than 2x I do. I say all of this to say, the moment I started tithing, God's financial blessings started flowing. My student loans started decreasing ... I could go on and on. These are financial principles God has given us through his word. I listened to your testimony more at the end nearly 4x because I started shouting too. We are blessed. I honor God with my 1st fruits. Hallelujah!! 🙏💃💃💃

    • @crystalbrown-robinson357
      @crystalbrown-robinson357 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pastor Dollar NEVER Said DON'T Tithe!!!!

    • @michaelmerck7576
      @michaelmerck7576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is no biblical income money tithe.if you choose to give 10 percent not from obligation or compulsion that that is your choice

    • @kjohnson341
      @kjohnson341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You didn't say anything about spiritual growth and that is where our focus should be. God bless

  • @rjrj66
    @rjrj66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is Not the first time a Pastor has taught this message about tithing being part of the Mosaic Law. Now, that Dr. Dollar has mentioned it everyone has something to say.

    • @leticiaperry8510
      @leticiaperry8510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yap. They are jealousy of thedude

    • @nubby60ify
      @nubby60ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly! Pastor Joseph Prince been teaching what Dr. Dollar has said....crickets from all these preachers until now.

  • @Ateyaaa
    @Ateyaaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This SHOULD NOT be controversy. As a Christian, call your Brother and talk it out. Agree to Disagree.

  • @charlesjr4060
    @charlesjr4060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Context is so vitally important when using proper Exegesis. Paul instructs us to give in the 2Cor 9:7. Sadly many believe tithing is giving and unfortunately it is not. Giving is 100% reliant on the heart not a set amount, and that is what I believe God is after. Tithing has been taught as a spiritual bat for years and has hurt a lot of people because of how it was forced upon them, though fear and guilt.
    Please don’t hear what I’m not saying, I’m for church support, but you do not have do so through Tithing, you can GIVE and support. Allow God to pull on your heart and let him tell you what to give, not miss understanding/or miss interpretation of scripture to justify teaching Tithing as a mandate.

    • @SS5347
      @SS5347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Well said sir. It is not required for us today. Give what is purposed on your heart to give.

    • @carolynwhite9975
      @carolynwhite9975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Charles Jr. AMEN! As you stated tithing has been used as a spiritual bat and it has hurt God's People more than anything else.

    • @TheonlyLadytee212
      @TheonlyLadytee212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I for one choose to tithe because I believe God's Word to be true and It has so proven to be so. The spiritually immature will be offended at the Word of God. In light of what's in the Scripture, when a man contradicts the Word, who do you believe? I choose to believe the Word. This is a plan for confusion and disconnection but there is a prophecy regarding a great falling away. Here we are. Go with God people! The tithe is for us all because it's fair for everyone and is between God and the believer.

    • @markb7067
      @markb7067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheonlyLadytee212 OK, but If you tithe from earned wages you're not biblically tithing.

    • @TheonlyLadytee212
      @TheonlyLadytee212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markb7067 this is about trust, honor and glory. Those who have problems with tithing will go out of their way not to do so. If you are responsible for waking yourself up daily, are solely responsible for your health and strength, and can protect yourself from all sides then you're self-made and need not give glory and honor to anyone but yourself. BUT...if you acknowledge that it was He who made it possible then allow Him to continue but there is exceeding and abundantly attached to tithing. He wouldn't ask us to test Him in it and floodgates opening and blessings flowing beyond our capacity to receive it. These are HIS WORDS. I choose to believe Him. But that's just me.

  • @MikeTheCeleb
    @MikeTheCeleb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is unfortunate 🥺 Dr Creflo Dollar said this would happen 🥺 Be free people, be free!

    • @rosalyngaines
      @rosalyngaines 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was under him for years early in his ministry until he became a mega pastor and he OFTEN quoted, you're cursed with a curse if you don't tithe. There's SOOO many other things too but I won't speak on it today. I just pray his eyes are opened one day. Mammon is a heck of a drug.

  • @andrewmccleod7785
    @andrewmccleod7785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Lord endorsed the Pharisees to give the tide because they were under the law at that time!

  • @StretchJED
    @StretchJED 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it." -Upton Sinclair”

  • @jewelvankampen3069
    @jewelvankampen3069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    WOW!!!
    Thank you Apostle.
    Thank you for addressing this through the eyes of Gods Grace, Love and Truth.
    Lord help us all as we cover the body of Christ.
    As we Pray Salvation over all who are lost and blinded by the tactics of the enemy which is the devil.

  • @drizzyha8109
    @drizzyha8109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Y'all still being played by these money hungry charlatans. Wake Up!!!!

    • @carolynwhite9975
      @carolynwhite9975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Drizzy Ha...Amen...Please People Wake Up...Don't Get Played

    • @Lena0852
      @Lena0852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup Hustler

  • @msfoster2468
    @msfoster2468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I almost gave up on giving because of certain circumstances happening in my life. But I’m not giving up. I will continue to be a giver.

  • @standingfirminChrist
    @standingfirminChrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The only mentions of tithes before the law were:
    a). a tithe of war spoils; Genesis 14:16-24 (if Abram’s tithe stands and the saved in Christ are to pattern their tithing after Abram’s example, then it stands to reason that the saved in Christ should be tithing war spoils as Abram did, and not their household monetary income)
    b). Jacob’s vow to give the tenth; Genesis 28:20-22 (If Jacob’’s tithe stands and the saved in Christ are to pattern their tithing after Jacob’s example, then it stands to reason that the saved in Christ can demand that God first meet requirements before they will give the tenth, as Jacob did.
    The fact is, Abram’s tithe was not incorporated into the Law. The Law instituted an entirely different tithe that that tithe which was given by Moses in Genesis 14. Neither Abram's tithe, nor Jacob's vow, is proof that tithing is to be practiced in the Christian assembly today and should not be used as proof that tithing is to be practiced in Christian assemblies today.
    by the way, the last condition Jacob made in his vow was not met until twenty-one years after he made the vow. Let that sink in.

    • @carolynwhite9975
      @carolynwhite9975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Ronald Robey...Amen

    • @TheonlyLadytee212
      @TheonlyLadytee212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe the point is acknowledging that the winning of the war was solely due to the Lord God thus the tithe. Abram knew he did not achieve that feat alone. Thus honoring the Lord was easy for Him. Some of us don't know where our health, strength, power, wisdom and knowledge derive, we think it was all us and like the selfish, fallen and depraved humans we are, we won't acknowledge God. His Word is plain and simple. Either we'll trust and believe Him or we won't and our actions will follow what we trust and believe.

  • @humanitylove4love764
    @humanitylove4love764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In Matthew:23 he was talking to Jewish people who was under the law.
    Malachi:3 was talking to priest who was robbing the store house of God. Tithing is food only.

    • @GodsView1
      @GodsView1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No..He was speaking to the crowd and His disciples in His criticisms of the pharisees, revealing to all people then and now about how to live in connection with the New Covenant for the whole world who would become believers. It is not limited to Jewish people just like Jesus' words overall in the Gospels applies to all people. The fact that systematic tithing was a part of the law does not mean it is excluded from today otherwise every other command in the law must be thrown out. Abraham and Jacob tithed before the law of Moses which means they understood that it it was the proper thing to do regardless of the law coming later. Money is the logical equivalent today for food 1 Cor 9:14, based on verse 13.

    • @bkj58
      @bkj58 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro they cant let it go; they will continue to teach error because of their lack of knowledge.

    • @teonhaynes603
      @teonhaynes603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GodsView1 Abraham tithed once, who did Jacob tithe too? What about Acts 15;20 concerning us gentiles? I respect your perspective & didn't come to agrue. I spoke to reason with a believer.

    • @GodsView1
      @GodsView1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teonhaynes603 No worries. Jacob would have tithed to a high representative of God in keeping with Abraham's earlier tithing to the pre-incarnate Jesus, Melchizedek, a practice that would have known by the people in God. Also, if a practice is mentioned once in the bible it doesn't mean it is not required due to quantity of mention. God can make directions by one mention only, as one Word alone of His is witness enough. Shalom

  • @deborahhollis7653
    @deborahhollis7653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jesus said clearly “I did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill the law”!!!!!! Do we continue in sin that grace may abound, GOD FORBID!!! Lord God, help us all!

    • @MrsEster-tb6ye
      @MrsEster-tb6ye 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will a man rob God. He'll yeah

  • @ministerward7780
    @ministerward7780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All these celebrity preachers will come out and speak on Pastor Dollar speaking against there church budget. But Jamal Bryant just said he's going to set up a weed farm on the church grown and no one is correcting him publicly.....I'll wait and see if he take of his prestigious time to correct him

  • @michaelmerck7576
    @michaelmerck7576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Abraham only tithed one time on someone else's money and it does not have anything to do with Christian doctrine

  • @Happy-dq9iu
    @Happy-dq9iu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My Father use to tell almost the same story about being promoted at his job - He never tithed a day in his life. He use to call it GRACE AND MERCY.

    • @gregorywilliams8236
      @gregorywilliams8236 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He rains on the Just and the Unjust.

  • @pwalker69
    @pwalker69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tithing does not always entail giving monetarily. This is where the majority of the church leaders and ministers fail to make it clear to their churches. What if you do not have money to give toward tithing? What are the alternatives to giving money?

    • @ChristopherSmith-fk2tb
      @ChristopherSmith-fk2tb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You got that right

    • @deepthoughts1739
      @deepthoughts1739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tithing was never money. So, when did it become 10% of one’s income? That’s not in the Old Testament or the New Testament. So, why do people call 10 percent of their income a tithe today. That teaching is not a biblical tithe. They are holding on to false teaching. Again, 10 percent of one’s income cannot be found in the Bible. Even when Jesus made mention of tithing it was not money. They were plants from the ground.

  • @glendaduncan7089
    @glendaduncan7089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Our Offering is Our Praise unto God through Christ.

  • @SymbolofPeeace
    @SymbolofPeeace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    06:00 Jesus did not cancel out any law, it’s still in effect. Tithing does not predate the law of tithing that does not make any sense.

  • @firebug1892
    @firebug1892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Scripture is true, we are under Grace. He is still speaking works works works. Jesus said what he said under the law before the cross.

    • @Qedoshim
      @Qedoshim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does "under Grace" mean?

    • @firebug1892
      @firebug1892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Qedoshim it means Jesus completely finished and fully fulfilled every Law , erased sin, erased poverty sickness and conquered death and the grave. Unless we have something to boast about like “ tithing” grace means exactly what it means,undeserved and unearned favor from God. You are not involved in what he accomplished for us!

    • @Qedoshim
      @Qedoshim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@firebug1892 it means that we are more than ever before to live a perfect, righteous and holy life with no tolerance for sin whatsoever. It means complete obedience and repenting daily. That's what Grace means. We are given time to get right with Jesus.

    • @ronaldalstonjr5642
      @ronaldalstonjr5642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Qedoshim are you sure that's what grace means??? Studying God's Word can do wonders for you. Grace is so simple but is not at all what your define it as. Grace is simply receiving that thing in which we do not deserve. Mercy is not receiving that thing in which we absolutely deserve. Grace and mercy is simple. Don't over complicated based on bad doctrine. We are all going to sin until we leave this world. To think different is foolish. Jesus told us that. We all sin and fall short. But thank God for grace and mercy. Do you get it now. I pray you do. Shalom

    • @Qedoshim
      @Qedoshim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronaldalstonjr5642 You are essentially, and no offense, teaching a false doctrine called "Cheap Grace" or a "Sugar-coated Grace" where obedience to Christ is no longer required. Yes Grace is something that we do not deserve, and yes Mercy is something that we deserve but God spares true believers. But, our response to Grace and Mercy must be Holiness and Righteousness in our lives. Jesus said in John 14:12-15, "If you love me, you will keep my commandments." He said, "anyone who believes in me will also do the things that I do." In Hebrews 12:14, "without Holiness no one will see the Lord." Matthew 5:48 "You, therefore, will be perfect [growing into spiritual maturity both in mind and character, actively integrating godly values into your daily life], as your heavenly Father is perfect." And 1 Peter 1:15 "But like the Holy One who called you, be holy yourselves in all your conduct [be set apart from the world by your godly character and moral courage];" Grace is not about okay Jesus' work is completed now I don't have to struggle for Holiness because I'm human and gonna sin anyway. He demands even more from believers. The standards are even tighter to be frank with you. Jesus said in Matthew 5:27-28, "You have heard that it was said, 'You Shall Not Commit Adultery'; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her had already committed Adultery with her in his heart." And again in 1 John 3:15, "Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer; and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." Sounds like you're following the Cheap Grace doctrine of the Word of Faith Movement which is doctrine of devils, 1 Timothy 4:1-3 "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the Faith, giving need to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;" These are those who preach Prosperity and health like a Hilliard, Creflo Dollar, Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Fred Price, Joyce Meyer and others.

  • @marcusdavis3927
    @marcusdavis3927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let me start off by saying that Pastor Hillard "NOT AT ANY TIME" during this video told you what tithes truly was or still is... What is the definition of thithes? What is it's purpose? Whom/who is it for? Also laws regarding tithing is found in Deuteronomy Chp: 14 vs 22-29. This chapter and verses answer all 3 questions. A lot of people feel that the scriptures below is about giving of money to the church and you will be bestowed with the pouring out of blessing from the All Mighty above.
    Malachi 3:10-11 says "Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of Host, if I will not open you the windows of heaven,and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it,
    (11) and I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes,and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of host. (FRUITS OF YOUR GROUND NOT MONEY)
    OK, now, tithes of course is food, cattle, oil,grain, fruits of the field etc..... it's just that some say that it has changed from food to money . According to the scripture which never changes, if it was meant to be currency why would the All Mighty open the windows of heaven like he did with the great flood during the time of Noah (read Genesis 7: 11-12) He opened the windows of heaven in order to flood the entire earth. He opened the windows of heaven to release water remember? In regards to the scripture in Malachi 3:10-11, he opened the windows of heaven again to release water so that the crops of the field may grow and multiply and the cattle would have water to drink because you gave your tithes(fruits of the field, cattle, grain etc) He would rain down water so that your crops could grow and multiple. This was the blessing that would poured out to you.(WATER FOR YOUR CROP)
    The devourer in verse 11 is a PLANT WORM which eats on crops. The All Mighty stated that he would rebuke the devourer. See Amos 4:9 . It gives you the definition of the devourer.(Don't take my word for it)
    So Malachi 3:10-11 has nothing to do with giving money so that you may be blessed. He did not change tithes from food to money. Man did. The blessing in this scripture is the blessing of water so that the crops multiplied which enable the people to have enough to eat and have plenty left over. (See 2Chronicles 31:10).
    I am not against giving an offering to your church; to each his own. I just know the the Lord's word does not change and researching the bible for yourself is so important.

  • @jameshicks8872
    @jameshicks8872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Yisraelite Teacher, we have told the Christian Ministers for over 30 years that Jesus Christ and his followers forsook Tithes and their Family's. Read: Matthew 19:28-30, Matthew 10:34-39, Luke 14:25-27, Mark 3:31-35 & Luke 9:59-62.
    CONCLUSION: In the sweat of thy face shalt though eat bread, till thou return unto thou ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art and unto dust shalt thou return. Genesis 3:19. HalleluYAHx7 🙌

  • @StretchJED
    @StretchJED 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just because Abraham gave a tenth of SPOILS of WAR on ONE occasion, does not constitute PRESCRIPTIVE TITHING. Nowhere in scripture does God ever command tithing, except to those who were UNDER THE LAW of Moses. It was displeasing to God to NOT stone adulterers under the law. Does that mean it's still displeasing that we DON'T STONE ADULTERERS today under the new covenant? Are you willing to cast the first stone?

  • @boxesbinslidsllc
    @boxesbinslidsllc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Generous giving" sounds like a new age practice in place of tithing. When deception is presented it holds a measure of truth so people won't reject it outright. The Bible says God is not the author of confusion, and now Christians and non believers are debating this topic. Christians who tithes out of obligation and fear feel liberated now that they can keep more for themselves.
    Be aware of new age teaching and mixtures entering in the church.

    • @tiwanstrong1413
      @tiwanstrong1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I could offend you with words but I'll just ask you one simple question, When was tithing ever with money?

    • @theversatilityofawoman462
      @theversatilityofawoman462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tiwanstrong1413 and how is "generous giving" new age? New testament say that we are to give from the abundance of our heart, not from compulsion, which is what alot of pastor try to do, especially black churches. I went through a depression years ago because I believe that we would be cursed with a curse for not being able to tithe due to financial lack. So when the pastor that had taught about tithing based on Malachai 3 told me that maybe we shouldn't tithe for now since money was slim, I kind of got mad and said to myself, "why she tell me that? Is she trying to mess me up?" I was messed up until God brought truth to me and that legalistic spirit lifted from me. Nobody is even supposed to know what you give as far as even knowing it's 10 percent of your income. Only God should know it. When some pastors are able to keep track, that's when some would start to scold people who dropped off. God is only looking for obedience from our heart to give. He rewards when we give without wanting anything back, but give because of what God has already done for us

    • @tiwanstrong1413
      @tiwanstrong1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theversatilityofawoman462 I'm not sure but maybe you can ask the person who actually said it hmm? Maybe you should start there

    • @theversatilityofawoman462
      @theversatilityofawoman462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tiwanstrong1413 it was a rhetorical question. Thanks though

  • @jacquelineforrest6104
    @jacquelineforrest6104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Man of God for this message, this video. This was the most awesome video I have ever seen on tithes. This is so needed in the body of Christ today and the world. I pray that this video reaches everyone through out the world. May the body of Christ be forever changed and all the honor and glory go to our King. For Our GOD IS A GREAT AND MIGHTY GOD. Many testimonies shall come from the clear understanding and knowledge of tithes and offings. It’s the principle of the matter. GOD is looking at the hearts of man. This is one of the areas in my life God has been working with me and my husband on. So this is just confirmation. I have seen God’s working and changing things for us as we trust and move forward in our giving unto God and having a relationship in God and with God. I ask that you pray for us to grow deeper in God. May God bless you and your ministry.

  • @donnashirley508
    @donnashirley508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I won't listen to opinions or traditions, but the word of God. The scripture is very very clear tithing is not for today it only limits God people & you are eisegeting the scripture not excegeting Malachi 8 is not for believers today, sir please read entire scripture it was to the priests robbing God that God was talking to. We serve Christ under Grace we give out of abundance of our heart 10% is limits us. Who says Paul wrote Hebrews also reread the Hebrews scriptures on tithing again it's not a command to tithe Abraham gave tithe of the spoils he did not earn it & God did not command him, it's a choice in his heart to God. Once again you also got it wrong. It's a heart attitude of giving that God blesses & the more we give with willingness to God the more. He blesses us If you give tithe or not but you give regardless willingly & cheerfully according to 1Cor 9

  • @MsPascale777
    @MsPascale777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellently explained. CREDIBILITY!!!! Especially on growth. God is not the author of confusion. The Spirit is ONE.

  • @randall5656
    @randall5656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These pastors only are coming out to defend tithing because they know it’s their income. They don’t come and defend nothing else in the law of Moses. We are under grace! The Bible says God loves a cheerful giver. Not a cheerful tither. They know if the tithes stop they gotta go get jobs’

  • @JeremyLBest
    @JeremyLBest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you, Apostle Hilliard!!!! This brought clarity and confirmation of the Word! Powerful testimony as well.

    • @ronaldalstonjr5642
      @ronaldalstonjr5642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Study brother, study God’s Word for yourself. Shalom

  • @marilyndavis1789
    @marilyndavis1789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Apostle Hilliard made the understanding of tithing more confusing. What do you do with God loves a cheerful giver not a cheerful tither

    • @terrenceallen2663
      @terrenceallen2663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We've always been told that when we tithe we can expect God to give back to us, God saved us by his grace which is a free gift and he doesn't expect anything back from us, but why is it that when we tithe under this same age of grace we expect something back from God? He gave us grace with no expectations but when we give to Him we expect something back from Him. SMH

  • @SS5347
    @SS5347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Creflo got these pastors scrambling. Lol. Lord bless them. Saints give what is purposed on your heart to give. Maybe 10% is a good place to start. But a tithe is not required for NT believers. Carry on tho. Even though I don’t follow prosperity pastors like Creflo but he actually got this one right.

    • @carolynwhite9975
      @carolynwhite9975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Redd47🤣🤣🤣🤣Yes Girl. But it's all God, God is bringing reformation to the church, lies and manipulation being exposed by the truth.

    • @rjrj66
      @rjrj66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@carolynwhite9975 They are showing what they are all about. Funny, how other Pastors have stated the same as Dr. Dollar but only when Dr. Dollar says something does everyone have something to say.

    • @MayfairJones
      @MayfairJones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol ..YES! Creflo Dollar is RIGHT ✅️

    • @cathyshorts2972
      @cathyshorts2972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yessss Pastor Dollar got them SHOOK TO THE CORE 🤣🤣🤣

    • @cathyshorts2972
      @cathyshorts2972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pastor Dollar also tells the story of how he wanted to give $5.00 dollars and didn't have it so he puts an IOU in the bucket and he was leaving church and someone stops and bless him with a $20 Dollar bill he runs back into the church and puts the whole $20 in the bucket. So he never said not to tith he said it's not a law to do so we are under Grace therefore we are grace based givers .

  • @Kara_Jay
    @Kara_Jay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I pray God continues to pour out His spirit and give revelation to pastors and Bishops everywhere. I sat under a ministry that preached you're cursed with a curse and you robbed God if you didn't tithe. How does one give out of a "Cheerful heart" when you're in fear of not participating. I don't care how someone benefited from it in their past. People Grow and change and correct their wrongs. Again, I don't care how long the church been teaching tithing or whatever else, it doesn't mean they were right. People have been successfully at a bunch of ungodly things, and they changed their minds later. Providing a list of all the super-rich "tithers" doesn't help the ordinary man/woman. Giving is a heart posture. Giving to the God who takes care of me is right. This sounds like the principle of "Giving to get" something from God. God blesses because He wants to. Tithing or not tithing doesn't make you holier, more righteous or cursed. Tithing also means your time and talents, but people don't talk about that. God bless y'all.

  • @pearl97177
    @pearl97177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much Apostle for your boldness in addressing this controversy. May you live 100 years more to continue to speak the truth into the body of Christ. God bless you my dear.

  • @detramassey3803
    @detramassey3803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank You for You and Dr Bridget’s obedience to GOD. Much Love

  • @standingfirminChrist
    @standingfirminChrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Didascalia Apostolorum, (teaching of the Apostles) written in AD 230, proves that tithing was not taught in the Early Church.
    “The Lord, by the gift of His grace, has set you loose and given you rest…that you should no more be bound with sacrifices and oblations, and with sin offerings, and purifications, and vows, and gifts, and holocausts, and burnt offerings, and [Sabbath] idlings, and shewbread, and the observing of purifications; nor yet with tithes and firstfruits, and part-offerings, and gifts and oblations - for it was laid upon them [Jews] to give all these things as of necessity, but you are not bound by these things…”[ - Didascalia Apostolorum, IX, ii. 35, translated by R. Hugh Connolly, Oxford; Clarendon Press, 1929. Online:

    • @sylviaprice4126
      @sylviaprice4126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Teach because people are giving their opinion and not rightly dividing the word of truth , need to focus more on keeping the sabbath which is a command there is no commandment on tithing Moses was already rich when he gave the tithe Jesus brought us grace to live under give verse in Hebrew about tithing

    • @bernadineholley372
      @bernadineholley372 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn’t understand anything he said. Even, in the last day, the Word of God says Matthew 24:24 “and Jesus said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you…” Psalm 146 “Do not put your trust in princes,in mortal men, who cannot save.” Pray, fast, and study then ask God for understanding. You are reading off the names of these rich people, do you know who they are serving, and their allegiance to? Many black churches, do intimidate,and brow beat you about not paying your tithes. I went to a few, and I always felt guilty for not paying tithes. The Lord bless me and my family with much, because I gave of my substance, talents, and didn’t always have any money to give, but still the Father continue to bless me over and above all that I could have imagined. I love man of God but, lets not confuse God’s people!

    • @StretchJED
      @StretchJED 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is an excellent resource. Thank you!

  • @humanitylove4love764
    @humanitylove4love764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tithing doesn’t per date the law, tithing was the law. Tithing is food only. Abraham gave 10% out of stolen spoil, not what he worked for.

  • @robinsheppard5565
    @robinsheppard5565 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Man of God for not brutally assassinating Creflo but still speaking truth in alignment with the unwavering Word of God. Still love Creflo. I receive the Baptism if the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues attending a session in NY. Yes, it is praying time. We are living in a time of Great Error. May GOD Continue to Bless You, Your Family and Sons & Daughters of Faith!!! AMEN

  • @carolynwhite9975
    @carolynwhite9975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Under the Law of the Old Covenant, only the Levitical priesthood was ordained to collect the Tithe, which was never money. JEWS TODAY DO NOT TITHE BECAUSE THERE IS NO LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD AND THERE IS NO TEMPLE. The church building is not the Temple and this man or any other man is not a Levitical priest and is collecting tithes illegally. It is a violation of the Word of God, the very Word that he claims to know and obey.

    • @tiwanstrong1413
      @tiwanstrong1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EXACTLY!!!!! I cannot get ANY TITHER to answer this question, What Bible verse says that God accepts the tithe as money? it's like that question is TITHING KRYPTONITE

  • @berthareels4289
    @berthareels4289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What % of the tithes and offerings does these RICH pastors receive?

    • @NB2020-que
      @NB2020-que 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Bertha Reels Whatever is left after the expenses for the church are paid! The church pays ALL of the pastor's expenses: housing, utilities, food, car, maintenance, insurance, retirement....everything! Think of what YOU pay with your paycheck, that is what YOU pay for your pastor. Also, ask yourself, if your pastor worked a 9-5 like you, would he be where he is today? Why don't you see pastors tithing? Do they give until it hurts like they expect YOU to? Please make a note of all these pastors who are making 'reaction' videos to what Creflo has done, think about it.

  • @AlstonSD
    @AlstonSD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pastor Hilliard you are reading from a paper but not making it clear where Paul obligated the Church to tithe! You seem to be mixing the law with grace! Brother Dollar didn’t mix up the scripture to create a theory that doesn’t exist in scripture he made clear that tithing was Old Testament and to pay tithes is not a free will gift of the heart in this realm of grace! Anytime you must pay something out of every payroll check it’s an obligation and unscriptural! Please provide specific scripture that obligates us to tithe! I also don’t agree with Preachers who tell people how much to give for example: “God wants 20 people to give $1000.00 dollars! I don’t believe it but I do believe Benny Hinn when he said he will no longer ask for an amount because it was not God it was him! I respect Benny Hinn for saying that and admitting that he had been lying for so many years. He made a fortune off of this lie but at least he came forward! The time is now for Preachers to stop twisting scripture to become well off! People are getting wiser so I believe this will change!

  • @denika1306
    @denika1306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Creflo Dollar IS RIGHT!! BUT WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT, THE WORD OF GOD IS TRUE AND RIGHT. YOU Mr. Hillard need to seek the truth and rightly divide the word of God. Mr. Hillard YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL, AND PRAY. I will encourage all to pray and allow the HolySpirit to be your guide and teacher. READ YOUR BIBLE FOR YOURSELF AND LET THE HOLYSPIRIT GUIDE YOU.

  • @RobertSmith-un1vn
    @RobertSmith-un1vn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have all of this confusion because MANY that TRY to teach or preach the word of God are SIMPLY UNSAVED and have NO desire to be SAVED!

  • @TheSpiritwriter777
    @TheSpiritwriter777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Apostle for standing relentlessly on the Word of God and the precepts. Truly tithing was before the law. Thats why each of us ought to be students of the Word so that we don’t shift truth to accommodate new theories. Honor the Lord with your substance 🤲🏽 Proverbs 3:9

  • @dorethaheyward3779
    @dorethaheyward3779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Praise God Apostle Hillard for You bringing the true Word of God. My Testimony that Biblical tithing is true and real, I paid tithes at an early age in my life also, but I retired from the Military in 1992, Dept of Correction 2009 and still paid tithes. give offering and plant seeds and God is my source and haven't missed a day paying mortgage, all vehicles paid in full, all of the promises that God promise is true. For me tithes is a must for this Family and we will continue to pay it till Jesus comes. A Deacon tried to tell my Mom who's gone home to be with the Lord, due to her age she didn't have to pay tithes and give offering, she told him move out of my way cause You will not cut off my Blessings. So thank You Dr. Hillard for the Word, You did not come to impress, us with intissing Words of Man wisdom but with the Power and demonstration of the Holy Holy Ghost. We give all Praises to God.

    • @tiwanstrong1413
      @tiwanstrong1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You obviously are ignoring what "biblical" tithing is....

    • @deepthoughts1739
      @deepthoughts1739 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s not bringing the true Word of God. He misinterpreting scripture and holding on to the tradition of men. Seriously.

  • @shika1975
    @shika1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Then why don’t you keep the Sabbath? It was established before the Laws of Moses and was written into it as well.

  • @tiwanstrong1413
    @tiwanstrong1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ADDRESS THE FACT THAT TITHING WAS NEVER MONEY!!!!!! ADDRESS THAT FACT.... Stop adding what's NOT in the Bible

  • @ralsandra
    @ralsandra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Jews were required to give tithes to take care of the Levitical priests and the temple. Tithes were not primarily gifts to God, but taxes for funding the Israel's national budget. This is explained in Malachi 3 in explanation of one "robbing God." There is no storehouse today- many pastors who preach tithing refer to the church as the storehouse in "error." If you ask a Jew today, many will laugh that the church fights over this issue. New Testament believers were never asked to tithe. Giving in the church is explained in Matthew 22:15-22 and Romans 13:1-7. I agree with Rodney in citing the The Didascalia Apostolorum and the tithe of war spoils; Genesis 14:16-24 which was a "one-time" given tithe. Brother Hilliard, New Testament giving is according to how God has blessed the "cheerful giver" and not a tax as it was for Israel. As the church, one now is living under grace and not the Law. The guideline for giving to God's work is found in 2 Corinthians 9:6-7. Your testimony is not the "results" for church doctrine. One does not overcome by personal testimony, but for one's testimony of the God's word.

  • @TRE601
    @TRE601 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The biblical principle of tithing is the main biblical principle that I follow without fail. It has never failed me. I don’t fellowship with any congregation as regularly as I should but I “pay” a full “tithe” to some Christian ministry every single week. Will till I die.

  • @chinalee8372
    @chinalee8372 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He should be lifted up for his repentance. But, he definitely through a boomerang in others finances. I believe he got tire of taking people money and seeing his congregation struggle financially.. pay what you could and be happy in doing so, for God loves a cheerful giver..

  • @Ife247
    @Ife247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    God bless you Apostle Hilliard. I pray his heart will be open to hear your correction and the love. My parents taught me tithing from a little girl . There is a blessing when you tithe. The blessing may not always be money, but favor.

    • @henrywilkerson1404
      @henrywilkerson1404 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      GREAT TEACHING APOSTLE I. V. HILLARD by Elder Henry L. Wilkerson

    • @drizzyha8109
      @drizzyha8109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@henrywilkerson1404 - Dude... What was great about a deliberate lie? Explain yourself through scripture. Did he explain the three year tithe which also was food, and never money? Wake Up out of traditions of charlatans...

    • @tiwanstrong1413
      @tiwanstrong1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What Bible verse says that God accepts the tithe as money?

  • @terrenceallen2663
    @terrenceallen2663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    All of these pastors that's coming to shoot down what Creflo said it's easy to see where their hearts are you can tell they're in desperation mode

  • @FBACERTIFIED
    @FBACERTIFIED 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is the principle of increase and I have increased I am debt free God has given me a home ,money , bank accounts, jobs I mean the blessing just keep on coming and coming

  • @kennethredd6160
    @kennethredd6160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All that was under the law and before the law was carry forward under Grace . Jesus said the way to the Father is through him and the law cannot save you.

  • @lyntondouce8623
    @lyntondouce8623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    do we dare say enough is enough,,it really is,,,tired so tired of politics in the body.brother the only reason we listen is out of love and respect ,this person from the moment he holds the title apostle and has hard ears we have a problem, he can impress my parents because he speaks well but it simply isn't there in the bible end of...
    the tithe card has been overplayed , I never heard anything mentioned in the past about pastors abusing their income streams by this apostle just like we don't hear or dared to challenge child abusers in office.
    you pay yr tithes I'll keep offering it doesn't stop me being reunited with my saviour

  • @hross1991
    @hross1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This man lives in a big compound with multiple houses in Spring Texas. He gets RICH 🤑 from "his" churc - free from paying taxes free from having to be transparent in his spending and free to PROFIT from God.
    God is not a business
    God said "sell all you have a follow me"

  • @jbt7224
    @jbt7224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The question that every Believer should be asking GOD, "Is TRUTH being preached in its ENTIRETY?" as it concerns the messages/teachings Pastor Dollar is bringing forth at this time. It is the RESPONSIBILITY of the BELIEVER to ask this question if one is working out their OWN Salvation with fear and trembling. Having a "personal" relationship with God means you can go to Him for yourself to get the required answers that you need. ALL born-again Believers in Jesus Christ have access to God in this way. There DOES NOT need to be confusion about tithing at this time. If you are apprehensive to move in either way (to tithe or not to tithe) then you have the RESPONSIBILITY of seeking God for "clarity" in this area. Most of us know that God is NOT a God of confusion. That title belongs to Satan himself. It's BEST at this time to seek God's HELP on this matter. This DID NOT take God by surprise that this debate would be going on at this time. GOD is still in CONTROL and the Bible still remains the infallible word of God. It is TRUTH when it is RIGHTLY DIVIDED in TRUTH. This is a time where Christians should be seeking God for themselves and not allowing leaders to have full control over this area of their lives. Pastors, teachers etc. are gifts to the Body of Christ but they are NOT God Himself. They are fallible men and women who can "easily" make mistakes and we have to TRUST GOD in the "process" of correcting them. It appears that Pastor Dollar is going through a "process" of correction in his life. My prayer is that God's hand will stay upon him in ALL areas of his life and personal walk with God. While he moves through this "process" we as God's people are to keep our eyes FIXED on Jesus Christ and no other. This is an "individual" journey of faith and we must remember this. When we all stand before God, He is not going to ask you about Pastor Dollar's life (that's reserved for him ALONE), God will ask us about our OWN lives. God DOES NOT want His people to be tossed about by every wind of doctrine so it is the WISE COUNSEL of God to seek HIS face by using HIS WORD to get the TRUE biblical answer on tithing and other messages that Pastor Dollar has brought forth to correct. Humbly submitted, a child of God

    • @renewingtransformations6440
      @renewingtransformations6440 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very well said!!😇

    • @jbt7224
      @jbt7224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@renewingtransformations6440 I have to give God the glory, this was not a response written on my OWN accord. I definitely understand the NEED to seek God for TRUTH at this time as I spent most of my saved life (19 years) sitting under erroneous teachings by very "popular" preachers and teachers in the Body of Christ. This caused my spiritual life to shipwreck and God in his infinite wisdom brought my feet back on the right/narrow path for the past 9 years. I am one that has not embraced Pastor Dollar's "correction" on tithing. I am seeking God and asking Him for proper understanding if this area of my life needs to be corrected. I am NOT jumping on the band wagon so easily. I enjoy an intimate relationship with our Father and I know that He will answer me in TRUTH.❤🕊✝️

  • @uchennablessing2355
    @uchennablessing2355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Apostle.
    Am not surprised that this is coming from great and well respected pastor cleflo dollar.
    Scripture says:
    2 Timothy 4:2-4 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
    For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
    Jesus also said, even the very elect shall be deceived. End time is here

    • @ronaldalstonjr5642
      @ronaldalstonjr5642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And unfortunately my brother, you have been deceived. Sound doctrine includes rightly dividing the Word and instead of that, you just allowed someone to tell what was right instead of you rightly dividing it for yourself. And it is unfortunate that you call someone a respected pastor who has given you another doctrine that Jesus did not preach. Wake up brother please. Jesus is not nor has He ever been concerned about your giving of monies. Man is the only one and the only one counting your pockets and lying to you about it.

    • @tiwanstrong1413
      @tiwanstrong1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      YOU CLEARLY are NOT a HOLY BIBLE READER!!!! It shows

    • @professorc8377
      @professorc8377 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, the scripture says" if it were possible..."Matthew 24:24

    • @crystalbrown-robinson357
      @crystalbrown-robinson357 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️

  • @teonhaynes603
    @teonhaynes603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With all due respect, we are not jewish. What about Acts 15:20? Those where commands by the original apostles to us gentiles. Jesus was talking to Jews as well.

  • @ernestmasango4005
    @ernestmasango4005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But Apostle Hilliard is saying exactly what Pastor Dollar said. He never renounced the principle of tithing and generous giving . He was against the practice of using fear and intimidation to get the saints to pay the tithe.

    • @leeangeliamoses
      @leeangeliamoses 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      EXACTLY he never said NOT to tithe. What are these people hearing?

  • @standingfirminChrist
    @standingfirminChrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fact that Gid did not incorporate Abram's tithe of war spoils into the Law, and the fact that not one apostle told people to emulate Abram in tithing or to emulate the Israelites in tithing is proof that tithing is NOT the heart of God for Christians.

  • @standingfirminChrist
    @standingfirminChrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JD Rockefeller himself refutes the claim that he was a tither:
    "Probably the most generous people in the world are the very poor, who assume each other’s burdens in the crises which come so often to the hard pressed. The mother in the tenement falls ill and the neighbor in the next room assumes her burdens. The father loses his work, and neighbors supply food to his children from their own scanty store.
    How often one hears of cases where the orphans are taken over and brought up by the poor friend whose benefaction means great additional hardship! This sort of genuine service makes the most princely gift from superabundance look insignificant indeed. The Jews have had for centuries a precept that one-tenth of a man’s possessions must be devoted to good works, but even this measure of giving is but a rough yardstick to go by. To give a tenth of one’s income is well nigh an impossibility to some, while to others it means a miserable pittance. If the spirit is there, the matter of proportion is soon lost sight of. It is only the spirit of giving that counts, and the very poor give without any self-consciousness. But I fear I am dealing with generalities again. - “Random Reminiscences of men and events” - John Davison Rockefeller; ©1909 New York Doubleday, Page, & Co.
    The above two paragraphs written by the hand of John Davison Rockefeller in 1909 reveal that Mr Rockefeller was not a man who gave ten percent of his money to the church...contrary to the many false quotes circulating on social media claiming that Rockefeller tithed all his life.
    While Mr Rockefeller thought that the giving of one-tenth by the Jews was admirable, he emphatically stated that those who are affluent could give a lot more than a mere percentage. He also admitted that the poor could not even meet the demand for a tenth.
    People need to do their research before making claims that certain rich people, like JD Rockefeller, were tithers. They only make themselves look foolish when it is proven that they are wrong.

    • @flutoporter6584
      @flutoporter6584 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was an evil illuminati criminal..dont mention him..hell bound rockerfella

  • @ms.dawnelainesmith1426
    @ms.dawnelainesmith1426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for this Apostle Hilliard!🙏🏾❤️🙏🏾

  • @leticiaperry8510
    @leticiaperry8510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He didn’t denounce any of what you’re claiming. I was in church that day. Listen to his from beginning to the end before you come up here attacking our pastor.

    • @cathyshorts2972
      @cathyshorts2972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ikr sis I'm a Worldchanger as well and this is sad to see in Bishop Hilliard

    • @mjwas3475
      @mjwas3475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cathyshorts2972
      Bless Pastor Creflo I listen to his confessions every morning and BLESSED!!!!!!

  • @rcford11
    @rcford11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you also tackle first fruiting? I would love more teaching in that area, thanks for your wisdom in this era we need it!

    • @michaelmerck7576
      @michaelmerck7576 ปีที่แล้ว

      First fruits and biblical tithing was food and never money or income tithe

  • @DriveAustra
    @DriveAustra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    With all due respect apostle, in your analogies, you are mixing commandments with old testament law. Thou shall not kill, commit adultery, etc are "commandments" that we are to keep as believers, but tithing was a "law" of the land in the old testament. The law of tithing was abolished following the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. We are no longer under the mosaic law or any old testament law. In the new testament, we are under the law of grace. We are to be cheerful givers and what we give is from the heart. No law in the new testament supports tithing, let alone, giving a percentage of your wealth.

  • @aaronalexander421
    @aaronalexander421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    LOL....Scholars are not certain Paul wrote Hebrews. MATT 23:23 Jesus does not command New Testament believers to pay Tithes.....History would show for three hundred years the Church did not practice Tithing....No Bishop, Apostle etc has addressed this.......In fact it was Rome who reinstated Tithes in the Councils of Tours and Macon......and ex communicated those who did not pay tithes......we Evangelicals have implemented a lesser degree of guilt and and pressure to get the same outcome........Justice demands law to be clear and God being just is compelled by his very nature when giving laws to be clear.......ambiguity in the law leads to injustice....obscurity.......Thus far there is no clear unambiguous evidence in the New Testament that any of the Apostles received or gave Tithes this is strongly corroborated by the early Chruch doing the same for three hundred years .....we cannot just ignore evidence.....all of it must be considered.....
    I have to conclude New Testament giving exceeds ten percent the thing is ...this is actuated by revelation...and I'm not sure Evangelical Leaders trust tge work if the Holy Spirit working in believers to bring them to that level of giving and as such it is easier to hold us captive to tge Tithe

    • @standingfirminChrist
      @standingfirminChrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A passage in the Gospels actually proves that God does not require monetary tithes. (and I'm not thinking of Matthew 23:23 or Luke 11:42)

  • @itsjustraye4545
    @itsjustraye4545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow I needed to hear this. I use to pay my tithes then I had stopped because my hours at work got cut and I was so overwhelmed with bills. So I stopped paying my tithes. What a huge mistake. I grew up with my parents paying tithes and God always provided. Now I am really struggling financially and see no other way out. Going to start paying my tithes again asap.

    • @khandyss892
      @khandyss892 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both tithing and freewill offering are cool. The reality is your hours were cut. Therefore so was your income. In that case, you could maybe try getting a side hustle. If your credit is good you can get a loan until you find another job. Either way, you are not cursed because you stop tithing. That’s all Creflo was saying. We have been indoctrinated with fear to give basically whatever they tell us to give. I stopped tithing ten years ago, but I never stop giving my time, talent, resources and money when and where I’m lead to. I have not missed a beat or a blessing. Matter of fact, since I give from my heart and not under pressure now. I am more blessed because my giving is sincere.

    • @drizzyha8109
      @drizzyha8109 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@khandyss892 - What You fail to understand is the fact that both IV, AND Creflo are Charlatans... There's a WHOLE BIBLE of information... Yet these fools are always stuck on the money part teaching traditions of men for over 40 years, and y'all still sleep. You better start loving the bible more than the charismatic pimpery of both these men. They're both liers, and fighting each other for continued raping of the 🐑 sheeple 's wool. This is why our people... Especially sisters continue to stay spiritually destitute. The Most High said to come out from the money changers... Not chase behind them. Read John 2... Verse 27, and Acts 8:20 for a start.

    • @tiwanstrong1413
      @tiwanstrong1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What Bible verse says that God accepts the tithe as money?

  • @PELZER178.
    @PELZER178. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder why no one never read Acts chapter 5 verses 1 through 11. If they read that verse or shall I say verses and still try to keep a portion back then I truly believe that they would stop with that rhetoric of I'm just going to pay a portion. Mega preachers now are just trying to keep people inside the church so by any means necessary yeah I'm going to tell you whatever lie I can to make sure you stay.

  • @gw8890
    @gw8890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad Hilliard has finally taken the high road.
    Christ promises the price less gift of salvation in mark 10:29 'none who have given will fail to receives houses, brothers, sisters in this life and the life to come'!
    Christ was first born of the dead and it came with a price which no one has to pay after Christ arose on the third day!

  • @uncomon_scentz2268
    @uncomon_scentz2268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Malachi was addressing the judgment upon the priests tithing lame animals to God.... ✝️"When you offer the blind for sacrifice, isn’t that evil? And when you offer the lame and sick, isn’t that evil? Present it now to your governor! Will he be pleased with you? Or will he accept your person?” says Yahweh of Armies. Malachi 1:8

  • @djredd1225
    @djredd1225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wasn't the tithe meant for the Levites? Is the levitical priesthood still in existence? I thought we are to be cheerful givers not giving out of fear or obligation? I'm a little 😕. It's crazy that so many of you preachers are rebutting this topic in masses but not abortion, violence, lack of family unit in our community.

    • @sweetcuppan2784
      @sweetcuppan2784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/FnDKgXCHfGU/w-d-xo.html

  • @endtimespreacher-etp6092
    @endtimespreacher-etp6092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What we can Joyfully give from the heart, Give. Abundant heart, Abundant giving. Stingy heart, Stingy giving. The 10th is Holy unto the Lord as in Leviticus 27:32. I see this to equal choosing to give "A Holy Offering". We would model it after what was a Holy Offering in Leviticus, though not land, seed, nor fruit but an already earned amount from working in our occupational "Field". I can testify Tithing brings special bles$ings!

  • @taresatruby1536
    @taresatruby1536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've heard this message before & my dad knew him directly! ✝️🙏🏽✝️He was not like this back in my daddy days! 🙏🏽💪✝️🙌📖😭😭🙇🏽‍♀️Jesus please help Us!
    They just brainwashed us! 🙏🏽💪✝️📖✝️😭🙇🏽‍♀️✝️🙏🏽🙌✝️🏃🔥🔥🙌✝️🏃😈

  • @tonyoliver8983
    @tonyoliver8983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So you should just stay wrong, to me this gives creflo more credibility he is willing to change if he is wrong

  • @tiwanstrong1413
    @tiwanstrong1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    WHEN WAS TITHING EVER WITH MONEY? Debate OVER!!!!✊🏿

    • @MichaelJohnson-ej2zx
      @MichaelJohnson-ej2zx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it never was money and they want ever say that

    • @broedwardgreshamjr9255
      @broedwardgreshamjr9255 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was money before the law and even redeemed money in the law. Abraham paid tithes of all.See Gen 13:2, Gen 14:20, The Children of Israel would redeem tithes as money for the first born of Sons and unclean animals See Num 18:15-16. SO yes Tithing was also money :).

    • @broedwardgreshamjr9255
      @broedwardgreshamjr9255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MichaelJohnson-ej2zx
      It was money before the law and even redeemed money in the law. Abraham paid tithes of all.See Gen 13:2, Gen 14:20, The Children of Israel would redeem tithes as money for the first born of Sons and unclean animals See Num 18:15-16. SO yes Tithing was also money :).

    • @tiwanstrong1413
      @tiwanstrong1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@broedwardgreshamjr9255 Sorry man, but you talking to the one who's been had ALL the information on tithes.... Those verses you mentioned in numbers 18 are not talking about tithes, they are clearly talking about firstlings/firstfruits.... And the last time I checked 1st and 10th don't mean the same thing in anything!!! So you need to try again come with something clear to say that tithing was money... In Deuteronomy if the way was too long for them to carry all of the time then they want to convert it to money and then converted back to whatever the animal or the crop was that they desired when they got to the place of worship, WHY? Because the Lord does not recognize silver and gold as a tithe....

    • @broedwardgreshamjr9255
      @broedwardgreshamjr9255 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tiwanstrong1413 that is biblically incorrect, Gen 13:2 and Gen 14:17-20, clarified that silver and gold were given, from Abtahan to the High Priest. And just as the unclean animals were also redeemed for money according to the sanctuary see Numbers 18 and Lev 27.

  • @jameilsanders1492
    @jameilsanders1492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was canceled at the cross was the need for sacrifice to repent it was nailed to the cross because Jesus became our chief sacrifice once and for all times. The need to live holy and follow the commandments is still in effect.

  • @pointblank6812
    @pointblank6812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only thing Paul ever took up was offering free wheel he never took Tithing he know that belong To the priest so Bishop Pastor whatever you wanna call Your self you have to show where peter Paul or any of the disciples anywhere in the New Testament that they took Tithing

  • @vanessajacobs8773
    @vanessajacobs8773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Deuteronomy 14:28-29
    
The third year's tithe of alms and charity
    28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:
    29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

    • @damienmercer4731
      @damienmercer4731 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great point to mention…

    • @sweetcuppan2784
      @sweetcuppan2784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, The poor never tithe under the old covenant. Israel provided for them. th-cam.com/video/FnDKgXCHfGU/w-d-xo.html. Shalom.

  • @michaelmerck7576
    @michaelmerck7576 ปีที่แล้ว

    People aren't robbing God by not tithing on one's income because tithing income was never a thing in the old or new testament

  • @josephmass3052
    @josephmass3052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To the producer of this video, can you provide links or titles to the programs that you viewed where doctor dollar said that it is unbiblical for believers to tithe today. That is not my understanding from any of the videos that I viewed on his teachings. I never heard him say that tithing is unbiblical. He said that failing to tithe does not bring a curse, and that those who choose the tithe should do so not fearing a curse.
    Bear in mind sir that if no such videos exists of Pastor dollar saying that tithing for the believer today is unbiblical, then the entire premise of your discourse here is an error.
    I will patiently wait on those links and or titles.
    thank you

  • @rickbeatty2232
    @rickbeatty2232 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You cannot throw out tithing because of the message of grace , the tithe it is holy unto the Lord Leviticus 27:30

    • @jaymorr2414
      @jaymorr2414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How come we dont sacrifice lambs and goats no more if why did that practice stop and not tithing?

  • @charleshill984
    @charleshill984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish someone would show me where in the Bible does Tithing means money.

  • @pierreferguson1300
    @pierreferguson1300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. Tithing in Judaism - Genesis 28:22; Numbers 18:21; Deuteronomy 14:23-25; Malachi 3:8-10; Matthew 23:23; Luke 11:42; Luke 18:12.
    2. Alms (Charitable deeds) in Christianity - Matthew 6:1-4; Luke 11:41; Luke 12:33; Acts 10:1-4; Acts 24:17.
    Romans 7:7-13; Hebrews 7:11-12; Matthew 5:43-44; Hebrews 8; 2 Corinthians 3.
    He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

  • @christopherdavis2979
    @christopherdavis2979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with Apostle Hilliard. It's too late in the game to say that tithing doesn't work when it's a proven principle.

    • @ronaldalstonjr5642
      @ronaldalstonjr5642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So sad. Jesus is the one and only proven principle and Jesus did not tithe, nor did He ordain the apostles to teach such a lie from the pit of hell. Study bro Chris. Study for yourself. Good luck and God bless

    • @christopherdavis2979
      @christopherdavis2979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronaldalstonjr5642 you're right but Abraham did. One thing for sure you can't argue that tithing isn't a biblical principle. I urge you to find a church home and a pastor where you can honor the Lord with your tithes and offerings.

    • @ronaldalstonjr5642
      @ronaldalstonjr5642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christopherdavis2979 bro Chris. You have fallen into the false narrative talking point. Check God's Word again. ABRAHAM didn't do anything. It was Abram who had not yet been justified by God as of yet and was no where commanded to give anything to Melchizedek by Melchizedek. He gave according to the purpose of his heart and that is the biblical example of how to give. According to the purpose of your own heart. Go back and see for yourself and then ask yourself why are pastors and teachers twisting saying what Abraham did when the written word of God clealy says something different. I thank God for pastors and leaders who are free and not bound by false teachings of something that the apostles didn't teach and nor were they commanded to by Jesus. Once again brother. Did Jesus tithe? I encourage you to do what Jesus said.
      Matt 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
      Learn of Him brother and learn that giving money doesn't please Him. Present yourself as a living sacrifice.

    • @deepthoughts1739
      @deepthoughts1739 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It ain’t to late in the game to change. Anytime God open a person’s eyes to the truth, he can change. Teaching tithing today as a principle or a requirement of the New Testament believers is false doctrine. These leaders are being put on the spot by the Holy Ghost and they don’t even realize it. Still trying to hold on to that evil teaching they’ve been telling the people for years.

    • @deepthoughts1739
      @deepthoughts1739 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christopherdavis2979 Give us at least one or more scriptures that teach that tithing is a principle and that it’s 10 % of one’s income. If you can’t produce scripture, it’s not biblical teaching. Actually, It is the teaching and tradition of men. That’s the truth. We know what the Bible says about the tradition of men.

  • @keykeyr.6167
    @keykeyr.6167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have not Ever heard such double Talk in my life. Either it is or its not. Yal All teach comdemnation regarding tithing. No wonder people don't believe in Preacher in Big churches. Shameful

  • @taresatruby1536
    @taresatruby1536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And know this 🙏🏽💪✝️📖testimony 😭🙏🏽✝️📖i gave for year's and years according to what are hearing now 🙏🏽💪✝️📖🙇🏽‍♀️then after over 7 years a friend of mine needed help and so since I was a remember for but never ask them for help! 😭🙏🏽💪✝️📖So I felt like can y'all help my friend with a part of her rent! 😭😭🙏🏽💪✝️📖They asked me what was my name and they found it cause they stated they only help members & ppl who pay tithes! So they asked if I had my notice of eviction and would help but I told no it's my friend & I then said I thought that's why I gave beyond what man said and I obeyed God 😢🙏🏽💪✝️😭😭📖they told me no for my friend & after moment I knew I wanted nothing more to do with church & years thereafter 🙏🏽✝️📖😭

    • @crystalbrown-robinson357
      @crystalbrown-robinson357 ปีที่แล้ว

      I Know For A FACT New Life Will NOT Help If You're In Need && Your Member Record Doesn't Reflect You've Tithed To Meet "Their" Expectations! That In Itself Is WRONG!! GOD SITS HIGH && LOOKS LOW!!!!!

  • @GeorgeReid
    @GeorgeReid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. If 10 percent is problematic? 😯. Again thank you. Our giving is based on love. If you are happy with the new Creflo Tithing message, already had a problem with giving.

    • @standingfirminChrist
      @standingfirminChrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't have a problem with giving. But I do have a problem with pastors who lie and say that God's tithe is money.

    • @tiwanstrong1413
      @tiwanstrong1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What Bible verse says that God accepts the tithe as money?

    • @crystalbrown-robinson357
      @crystalbrown-robinson357 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's NOT The NEW Crefflo Dollar Tithing Method. It's The Way It's Supposed To Be!!!

  • @XMAN4708
    @XMAN4708 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is No Tithe controversy for ALL those who have received revelation knowledge of it. Simply put there is no Mandatory/Demanding of Tithe or any other set amount for the Church!!! BIBLICAL GIVING IN THE NEW TESTAMENT!!!!!!!
    1. GIVING IS TO BE DONE FREELY
    2. GIVING IS TO BE DONE AS WE ARE LED OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD
    3. GIVING IS TO BE DONE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OTHERS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST
    4. GIVING IS TO BE FOR THE FURTHERANCE OF THE TRUE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM AND ALL WORKS OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD
    5. GIVING IS TO BE DONE GENEROUSLY
    6. GIVING IS TO BE DONE CONSIDERING OTHERS BEFORE OURSELVES
    7. GIVING IS THE VERY NATURE AND CHARACTER OF OUR FATHER AND IT SHOULD BE WITH US
    “Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.”
    ‭‭1 John‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬-‭18‬ ‭
    Proverbs 11:24-25 - There is that scattereth, and yet increaseth; and [there is] that withholdeth more than is meet, but [it tendeth] to poverty.
    Acts 20:35 - I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
    2 Corinthians 9:6-7 “But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.”
    ‭‭
    Matthew 6:1-34 - Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
    Hebrews 13:16 - But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.
    James 1:17 - Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
    James 4:17 - Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth [it] not, to him it is sin.
    Philippians 4:19 - But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
    Hebrews 13:5 - [Let your] conversation [be] without covetousness; [and be] content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
    Luke 14:12-14 - Then said he also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor [thy] rich neighbours; lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee.
    James 4:1 - 5:20 - From whence [come] wars and fightings among you? [come they] not hence, [even] of your lusts that war in your members?
    Acts 4:32-37 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus, Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet
    Acts 2:40-47 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.2 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

  • @francisessa
    @francisessa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    May I ask, where in the Bible was money use for tithing, if tithing predates the law? Sabbath also predates the law but why do we go to church on Sunday and not Saturday?

  • @covenantfather
    @covenantfather 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Read all if the Scriptures he quoted including the verses before and after. Use different translations if you like. Then you conclude whether a follower of Jesus Christ is required to pay a tax (tithe) under the New Covenant. Principle vs Law. Giving vs Tithe. Open your spiritual eyes to understanding! Is tithing a means to wealth for the individual? Is personal wealth the goal of a follower of Jesus Christ? Why didn't every tithing follower of Jesus Christ become a millionaire? Does this "principle of tithing" work for unbelievers too? If so, what makes the follower of Jesus Christ different from the unbeliever? Lastly, was Jacob's increases in Gen. 30:28-43 a result of his tithing? Was Hilliard's increases due to tithing or IQ, desire, and God given ability?

  • @MinisterioRiosDeVidaSA
    @MinisterioRiosDeVidaSA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We need more spiritual fathers like you. Well said! May the Lord use you more and more.

    • @25447carepear
      @25447carepear ปีที่แล้ว

      No we don't. This is why God said " Call no one on earth FATHER or TEACHER!"

  • @Qedoshim
    @Qedoshim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He said that tithing is above the Law of Moses. What???

  • @azaleneamacker3416
    @azaleneamacker3416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where in Hebrew chapter and verse did Paul talk about the giving tithes, you said Paul did it, but didn't give where, Thank

  • @vincentscott712
    @vincentscott712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First of all there aren't anymore Apostles today. Secondly New Covenant believers don't have to give any percentages. We give from the heart. Tithing under grace is legalism. In Galatians chapter 3 it tells us that Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law. So are we under grace or law. God doesn't need our money. The problem is pastor's aren't living by faith. The book of Deuteronomy, Numbers and Malachi will teach about the tithe and what it was. Stop teaching people that if we give a tithe we will be blessed. How about believers who can't give ten percent. So they are not going to be blessed. Christ death on the cross paid it all. If righteousness comes by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. (Galatians)2-21. No man is justified by the law in the sight of God. The just shall live by faith. (Galatians)3-11. We need to know the Word for ourselves. People can sound good, look good, and smell good. Just give your time, talent and whatever percentages of finances you can give. God will honor you if it's from your heart. Don't be mislead by false teachers. Study Study Study.