THIS IS Like Vanilla OR Chocolate Body type; weight; coordination Lots of variables. Which is less maintenance, most productive, best warranty, best dealer. How about tires Width, Diameter, tread design bias-ply vs radial vs tweel shorts vs longs vs ticks 😨 Bottom Line: you'll need both. That's why they are Professionals Off Subject: any Kubota dealers near you?
You pretty much nailed it. Stander is much more versatile. Almost nothing they can't do. But for leaf removal and big fairly flat wide open spaces a zero turn is definitely the way to go. I rolled a 60" Dixie Chopper with all of the safety switches off straight backwards and was looking up at the bottom of the deck with the blades on at full throttle. Scariest moment of my life. No more taking a zero turn on hills for me.
I'm 64 years old and still prefer a stand-on. Easier to get on and off, easier to control just using my hands instead of arms. Easier when mowing under tree limbs - no roll bar and I can get lower squatting/ducking down than I can when I lean over on my Skag Cheetah. I'm not a pro, just a homeowner that mows a few acres.
I cut lawns by myself as a side hussle business with a noncommercial Husquvarna 46 zero turn doing residential work only. I have never used a Stander mower and dont want to finance any brand of super expensive equipment $5000 plus). I personnally would prefer my sit down zero turn simply to save my legs for the inevitable string trimming as well as blowing time in yards. Keep up the great lawn videos..., your a natural!
So having just cut several times with my new Wright Stander, I am finally able to angle cut my front yard because the front to back distance is so short on the stander. I can turn around on a dime and am now able to do so much more with this mower in tight spaces than before. It's amazing. Thanks Brian....
Both have their place for me...I love stand-ons for smaller properties or areas where we aren’t mowing for more than a few minutes, but the zero-turns shine on larger properties (we mow a couple that are 20+ acres).
I think that both are must haves in our industry. If you're working on both residential and commercial. It just makes sense to have both. Kind of like having a short bush trimmer vs a pole bush trimmer. Depending on the job it just depends on the right tool for the job.
Hey Brian as always great video. I've been using a 60 zero turn. Many of my properties are several acres. Yesterday I had the opportunity to demo a Ferris 52 stander and fell in love. So much more nimble and honestly the bigger properties I got finished just as fast. A little tricky at first. I'm also 53 and have a bad knee and mowed some very rough property's. After adjusting the platform and lowering the air pressure on the tires it rode great. It was much better on my back. I pulled a 12 hr day and wasn't any more tired than normal. I think it would make sense to have one of each but I have a feeling I'll use the stander more.
I love the standard. In love with the scag vride with that advantage deck. I am small and do about 30 accounts. Mostly residential with a few 2 acre properties. I love the compact size which saves space on the trailer and I can save time mowing ditches versus a sit down. Also there is a company that makes a vacuum bagging system for stand-ons. Great video
I too have always had the concern of not having capabilities of "feathering deck" say flat ground to top of slope goin in... ( insert bogg down "scalp" sound here..) It's an UUUUUUUUUUUGE decision! You always do over & above to help her fellow "Yawd-Mon" thank you sir for all the effort & EXTRA work you put into vlogging!
I have never had a set down z turn. My stand on Deere 636m is my first commercial mower. Lawncare is a side hustle for me but I made my choice due to being 53 when I bought. Getting in and off ease was the biggest reason for my choice of a stand on and space on my 5x10 trailer. Thanks for the video Randy
Have always used zero turns, but have developed sciatic nerve issues in the last year or so and sitting on a zero turn for more than a few hours a day now really takes a toll on my back and leg, so stand on next for me... but will still keep one zero turn as backup
This comment. I agree 100% with this statement. The Stander is perfect for the smaller properties, or groups of them. Granny yards and so forth. The Zero is better for those open expanses where you're going to be mowing for awhile, such as large church lawns or farm properties.
Great video Brian , I have one each , I’m on my second toro grandstand 2800 hrs on the first . I use the stander mostly . Great for ditches and slopes. Your right. It’s about preference. And definitely need a good bagging system for fall.so the zero turn is great for that . The grandstand has come out with a full bagging system. That’s all I know. This is a great industry and I think guys like you are helping make it a respected and professional industry. Keep it up.
Stand on. I love being able to see all the way around me. I had a tough decision of what to get because this was my first mower but I love everything about my stander. I can't say anything bad about a sit down because I have never use one.
I think you did a great comparison. I’ve been mowing for 18 plus years, starting with the exmark turf ranger then to the lazers, I really never paid much attention to the stand ons before but after seeing you demo them it might be something to look at adding in the future.
I got my own lawn care company and work for one. I have a 42 inch cub cadet zero turn I’m only two years in. And the company I work for had two Wright standers a 36 and 52. As a newer lawn care guy for me the 42 cub zero was way easier to learn. The stander definitely took some time to feel comfortable with but once I got the hang of it I fell in love. I’m saving for a 52 Bradley stander now
Brian I demoed them both and see a place from them both in the lawn industry. I was looking to cut my own property and maybe a few accounts. The stander felt less natural to a beginner like me. I was worried about hills and inclines because a cut a few on my own property and my neighbors. I found out its all about the width of the machine and tires. Once I added bigger and wider tires it handles hills and inclines like a stander with a seat lol. I enjoy cutting much more and not scared to be riding those hills and inclines. Thanks for all you do for us. Still liking that Ferris stander thou😀
I've been running a lawncare and landscaping company for 8 years now and we started with a residential sit down Murray for 1,000 new. It lasted all of half my first season. Next was a residential zero turn John Deer and residential Husqvarna. Fast forward 8 years. Back hoes, track loaders and half a million in equipment. We have all stand on Ferris mowers on 1 truck. 36. Z1x stander, 48 Z2x stander, 72 Z3x stander. 2nd truck is the second way just with scag and a few differences in deck sizes. At the shop we keep 2 sit down Exmark mowers as back up and the landscaping crews use them on jobs at times. We also keep 1 extra 36 inch ferris Stand on mower as a back up, 30 inch Exmark push and a Kobalt electric push. Stand on mowers increased production and we cut on average 3 to 5 more yards a day using stand on mowers vs sit downs, happier employees, employee retention, because you can cut me 3 to 5 more yards using standers vs sit down mowers means I can pay crew leaders significantly more money with a monthly bonus if they don't call out and don't get complaints. They are less fatigued and every employee I have prefers a stand on mower over a sit down mower unless it's leaf season because they will use the sit down mowers like little bull dozers and push the leaf piles to the road for pick up. This is not just my opinion this is mine and 2 crew leaders and 2 others that run mowers. 5 votes for stand on mowers here.
I think that it's good to use both. I have both and I find that the sit down hurts my lower back after a few hours and stand on gives relief on your back but stress on the legs and hands after a while . I've learned alternating mowers works best. I will cut a few yards sitting and then switch back .
I agree with everything you said in this video. I have been in lawn business for 15 years and always said I would never use a stander, well this spring I decided to get a Exmark Vantage because I’m a Exmark fan lol, because of some small back yards I have picked up over the winter. Since getting that machine and running it, I have fell in love with it and have let my Lazer Z set on trailer. So much quicker and comfortable on and off machine and trash cleanup. I will be trading my Lazer in on a Vantage with a 60” deck real soon. The Vantage I recently purchased was a 48” deck. I will eventually only have one sit down mower and that will be my 72” deck for large properties.
Stand on for me, firstly because I need a 36inch for my back yards, you have better vision for what’s ahead, more compact for room in the trailer, you don’t have to constantly get up when picking up trash, or pulling the chute up when entering a tight space, also dust doesn’t go right in your face. Zero turn would be my choice if I had primarily huge commercial properties, and steep inclines they are the best.
Well said. I think it makes sense to have both (if possible) so you can choose the most productive choice for the job. I thinks it's time they add fast hydraulic deck lifts on both as an option, thumb or foot switch for up and float down.
We have a Kubota with a hydraulic deck, we hate it. It's just another expensive repair and throughout the day the deck will start to get lower. Chains are the way to go until someone gets hydraulics right.
IMO you hit the most important pros for the Zero Turns and that's the Vac systems and the feathering of the deck !! And my last comment is why are you never wearing shorts mowing on a zero turn ??? LOL I never have a problem getting grass all over me...Yeah if the wind is blowing a certain way it can come out of discharge and come back to the rider but I will then just mow a different direction. Im in NY and im in shorts as soon as the temps break 70 degrees !! Screw wearing jeans or long pants in 80 90 degree heat !! Great Job on all the Demos Brian I really appreciate your channel and the content you put out !!
Wow we just got our first real heat wave up here in NY 90 plus degrees with humidity and you wont see me working past 2 o clock !! And that will be after changing my shirt and underwear at least once !!
@@kevinboo2000 lol,,, 90+,,, too funny, try 100-1115 range with high humidity here in tx.. some summers, fewer 100+ days, some summers a lot more, it's a crap shoot, not to mention all the bugs and mosquitoes. 9-10am is already 90+, doesn't get back to 90 and lil below til midnight-1am. weather in ny is a dream, only in summer.
I wrestled with this question when I bought my cheetah n v ride 2. The answer for me was both, but if you’re not in the position I would say a 52” stander is a good machine to tackle a lot of properties. Anything with many obstacles stander is the way to go, anything wide open 1/2” n up ztr! Like always nothing over 1100lbs too. Lightweight is the future of mowers.
They’re convincing me too! All depends. There honestly a budget for all of them. Everything available today is between 7.5-14 for both ztr or stand on.
I havent been able to try a stander yet. However, most of the technology you were referring to that is new on the standers, is also available on the zero turns from the same manufacturer. (Velocity deck, 37 hp Vanguard, oilguard, etc) As far as comfort goes. YOU NEED TO DEMO A FERRIS 3200 SERIES ZERO TURN. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. Especially since you have recently been able to demo the standon equivalent from them.
I think to put it this way I certainly love mowing my lawn and neighbors lawns. I usually use my Scag Cheetah 72 and my employees use the Scag V Ride 2 61 and Scag V Ride 48. I even had a vision I was on the Dixie Chopper Xcaliber 74 (if Dixie was still around though). Many times my employees and I use the Exmark and Toro 30 mowers for the smaller lawns and we do walk a lot. I think for me If I have to do the bigger parts on my lawn or neighbors lawns thats usually good for the Cheetah 72 I let my employees mow the parts that aren't too big. I usually don't mow the slopes with the Cheetah that I leave it to my employees on the V Ride and V Ride 2. Great video Brian.
It’s hard to not have both for all the reasons you mentioned. A mechanic doesn’t have just one wrench. We bought a scag tiger cat II last year and trying to decide what stander we are buying this year. Love our Scag but that Ferris is looking pretty good.
HI Brian, zero turn for me . Why, I'm an older guy and need to sit because my knees couldn't stand standing all day. Thank you for doing these video's and yes being in a back lot looks better than in a place where you are working sometimes. :)
I love the pro stance from gravely... Love the speed of sit down zero turn, but I feel the stand on can get closer to objects and handles the hill and slopes without the sliding. Plus I feel like you look cooler on a stand on.
Stand on all day. Efficiency, productivity, visibility and better ergonomics. Space Savin is nice but I’ve found stand on much more versatile. I run jd quick traks with tweels on all. Each trailer has 60” zero, 52” stander 48” walk. Stander is used on 95 percent of all routes but I feel zero and walk still have their place. Thanks great vid!!
I love The Gravely ProStance because I feeling like you can get under things without sitting down plus I feel like the Pro Stance would better your body pain after a long period of time compared to a zero turn.
Depends on how much you mow, smaller residential lots stand on all day, but for the bigger 1 acre lots sit down, I just finished demoing the z3x 72” but didn’t like how bouncing it got on my maintenance lots, I’m going to look at the hustler hyperdrive next, but you need 1 of each, I have both and each have its purpose
I started my business when I was 13 in my neighborhood and I have used a 22 inch push mower my whole life. Yes, I only had 3 or 4 accounts back then, but, now that I’m 15, my business has snow balled. I cut about 18-20 yards a week... still with a 22 inch push mower. So I’m walking the whole time, and I just get tired too fast. So, I think I will have say a zero turn is what I will be getting soon. I did demo a couple standers and a couple zero turns and I like the zero turns a bit better.
Props to you man! I also started when I was 13 and am 15 now. I started with a push mower but I whimped out and bought a used walk behind (best investment ever) i wish you luck in your search as I am right there with you in finding what mower is right for you!
I 100% agree with Lucas, a walk behind is where it’s gonna be at for you. The eX-Mark Turf Tracer is really hard to beat, they are awesome on hills. I like the Scag Pro V because of the handlebar controls vs the pistol grip controls, but the Scag doesn’t hold a ditch line or hill like the Turf Tracer does. Plus you can get a stand on attachment for them for your bigger yards, which just lifts out of the way when you need to walk it instead of ride it.
yep, sitters are heavier, but they're more comfortable for a long day. and i'm pretty good at avoiding turf damage ( aside from weeds ). again, loving that trailer ( the truck too ).
Sit down. I feel more confident on a sit down. I feel like everyone piggybacks off of the "picking up trash'" Comment. How many times per yard do you actually pick up trash? My biggest reason, I have horrible knees.
if you have a grab stick, you don't even have to get off of the mower. on trashier properties i'll carry it with me, but i'm thinking about rigging up a mount to carry it on my rider all the time. even on clean yards, you'll sometimes encounter a piece of trash or two you don't want to run over.
kodiak wild Exactly. I have a trash grabber too but I hardly ever use it because I don't come across rubbish that much and if I do its only the odd bit on a commercial property or sharehouse that I'm happy to just get off for and kick out of the way. If your that lazy that you don't want to get off your mower once or twice on a property on the odd occasion there's something wrong lol ;D
King David 314 You can do that too which yes I will do if not before starting anything at least while trimming but most of my places are pretty clean so anything that's on the lawn will have just been blown there by the wind or whatever.
Hey Brian! Great video as always man. I personally prefer a sit on z-turn. Prefer the sit down because you can be less fatigue at the end of the day and they are much better on hills. Also since I can get the bigger engines that's a huge plus. And since the decks come from anywhere from 32' to 109' their is a deck for every application. One of the down sides though is visibility. But keep up the great work brother, God bless ya!!
Stand on all the way!! My dad and I have a Z2 and 2 Z3x’s And we both love them. The Z2 is a 54 in deck which is good for more residentials and then the Z3x is a 61 in deck. With both Z3’s we cover a lot more ground when we are mowing our big commercial properties. Along with just the ride quality of the Z3 is outstanding. The stand on’s are just a whole lot more efficient when it comes to saving time and energy but still having good quality of work.
As always great vids, I have 1 Wright 36 idensity and 1 52 Wright stander x. Visibility and space a must 4 me. And most importantly like you mentioned, jumping off to pick up trash or jumping off if you come across any near accidents.
Bought a stand on (V-Ride 48 deck) to replace a tractor, I know, not a zero turn, for a lot size of approximately 3/4 acre with trees, stone edging and plants along the edge of the lawn. Property slopes about 10 feet toward one side and the stability on slopes, both up and down and across is excellent. For me the natural hand position eliminates shoulder movement as I have issues with both shoulders. Visibility is excellent as you can see all 4 corners of the unit and once you get accustomed to the way the front wheels swivel you can get around obstacles easily. First time out drove the 48 inch deck machine through a 50 inch gate opening without ever touching the posts, although I did reduce speed but did not reduce to a crawl. What took 90 minutes now is done in 60 with far less hand edge trimming. Much easier on the body than sitting down and bouncing around. A neighbor with a Wright sit on can not navigate areas that I can but his is a 52 inch deck. Easy on and off to pick up debris is also a handy feature. Run the tires a few pounds lower than recommended and have never torn up the turf, even when the ground is soft.
I have a Grandstand from Toro. I have taken on hills and slopes in a crazy manner. One hill I had to get off the back in order keep the front wheels on the ground when I got to the top. I take on more steeper slopes with my stander rather than the zero turn that I have. If I get a second unit I will get a stander. I have an accelerator catcher for the stander, I can stop, dump, start in about 1 minute. I have a bagger for my zero turn and they work great too. The only problem with either system, I use yard bags because the city where I live pick up yard waste. Loading the bags is a hassle, for the most part. I am working out the kinks in those situations. With that said I am Toro all the way!
Stand on! Much easier on the body! Gravely pro stance gives a deck feather on the platform! Cut on a zero turn for 5 years tried the stand on and love it
2 herniated discs in my back id rather stand than sit. My first ztr killed my back from the bumps. The vantage i got now keeps my back in line and is fun to drive
I've been cutting grass for 11 years, I'm 32, back in 2015 I had a herniated disc, by the end of the season, (4 month recovery no surgery) I have only used zero turns, and walk behind, zero turn makes the job faster, I've never tried the stander mower, but would love to, zero turn keeps making my back hurt again.
I enjoy the walk behinds just because I'm a tall guy and can move quickly. But zero turn hands down for speed, the bagger on our gravely proturn works like a dream as well, 950hrs going strong. 48in deck will get anywhere you need with a zero turn, and that's even with a bagger on the back. This being said I'm fairly biased as I haven't used stand on mowers at all. But I like sitting.
I just bought my first zero turn the other day and love it to bits! I think the idea of a stand on would be interesting but they are quite rare here in Australia and very expensive even for a 36" so I'm yet to try one. Yes you have the convenience of picking stuff up easily I guess as many people have mentioned but on a big property with virtually no rubbish at all I can't see too much of a point over sit downs. I really like my current mower because it has a very nice seat and I already spend most of my time standing up so being able to sit down is something I love. Not sure what you meant with the shorts on stander vs sit down comment though, I wear shorts 99% of the time when I'm working whether it's summer, winter or anywhere in between and don't really have any troubles. Maybe its just that I'm used to stuff being flung at my legs while trimming lol
Looking at demoing a stand on this spring. I think the head clearance around trees will be a huge difference from our sit down zero turns. We’ve run John Deere Z-Tracs for years but we’re going to demo the scag this spring.
Kind of a thought, i run a 36” wb, 36” stand on, and 48” ztr. That work perfectly for my accounts. But i run stand on unit on about 75% of them. Due to small gates, smaller yards, or lots of obstacles. It’s actually more maneuverable thrn my wb. But the purchase of the stand on opened up alot more opportunities due to less time on properties then with the wb. They all have their places
I got a exmark walk behind and love it but some days i would like to sit down. Now i did get a toro zero turn but dont like it. Even doing 3 or 4 point turns it still tears the ground up. Now it is a homeowner version. Im gonna try to use different tires as those are skinny and have alot of tread to the them. My buddy said i can buy one of his scag tiger cubs that need some work. Which ive drove his and love them.
I'm looking at a standers. But here in Panama City we have piles of tree stumps from hurricane Micheal. And no shade. On the zero turn I can mount shade and kick the deck up and down for stumps but I too have sciatica. Decisions decisions...
Great video Brian you hit about every pro and con spot on. I’m a home owner with a large property to cut is why I use a exmark zero turn. But if I was a lawn business owner I would have stand in units for sure. The top 3 advantages I see from all stand on owners is productivity ( easy to get in and off for trash or limb pickup) stability (after to lean your weight on steep inclines) and size (able to fit more equipment on the trailer). I wander if any company’s would let you demo a stander with a dedicated mulch kit this fall and see how it does with leaf cleanup
I like the zero turn for my 5 acre yard. The speed is nice and the option to add on a bagging system is key. Ferris/Simplicity for their suspension system and my old back. LOL
I actually bought a 20+ year old bobcat ztr this year as my first start up mower, I do have issues with really tight spaces I see the advantage of having both.
I'm a homeowner and there are no homeowner stand-on machines; they are all commercial and cost too much for what I do. Plus, I am chill'n on my ZT and saving my legs for cycling. I got the ZT so that I no longer have to stand and push a mower. I've done that since 1997. Sitting and chill'n while cutting the lawn is a Big Pro for me.
I like sit down zero turn because I’m use to a sit down zero turn more than a stand on. I learned how to use a zero turn first and I feel I have better control. I also have knee issues from college lacrosse so I can’t stand on a machine for more than an hr especially if I’m not moving around.
It depends, if you are mowing a lot of commercial property where there would be trash and/or it’s a small quick yard I would go with a stand on mower. If you mow a lot of lots and large yards go with sit down mowers. Me personally I use a sit down, because I mow a lot of lots and large yards.
Zero turn but only because I have trouble with the right side of my body. I had a stroke. I would have a stander if the controls were different . I am considering the Hustle trimstar though? Demo please Brain?
I have been in business for quite some time now I have learned that Zero Turns are much better for rough hilly and big acreage properties but you got to go where the money's at smaller properties with sod and irrigation you leave less of a footprint with a lighter weight machine they both have their advantages
Just came across this video . I’m just about to purchase my first ride/stand on mower. I’m going to go with a stand on mostly due to the fact 95% of my lawns are 6500sq ft or less and most have 36” gates.
Over 50 years old. While I would love a stander for smaller footprint and better hill control, my knees cannot take it all day. I have both but sit-down is my main work horse.
im just starting a lawncare business with a 21in. self proppeled and a ryobi 2 cycle weedeater. i would prefer a stand on mower in the future mainly because a zer turn wouldnt fit in the back yards im mowing because the gates are too small. im hoping in the next couple years i could get a wright 32in stand on
I don’t have a lot of experience with a sit down zero turn. I really am loving the stander for all the reasons you stated. Actually when you step off the Z3X the pto automatically shuts off.
I have been landscaping for 7 years and have used standers since day 1. Started with a 52" wright stander, then when that blew up the company bought a 61" wright zk, this machine was 100% worth the price tag. We have many larger lawns and it shreds through them. We have always had the 36" walk behind in thetrailer, which is a necessity on 3 jobs, unfortunately. Once the company got big enough to add a third mower to the trailer the decision was a no brainer, stander it was. We got the 52" Wright intensity. (Would have gotten the X but the dealer did not have any, and we needed it that day, lesson learned; dont rush, and always have a backup mower) the intensity is just too light, so the traction on hills is to be desired. (Other than that it is a fantastic mower) standers are the only way to go, in my opinion. They are easier on the back, way more compact, and way more maneuverable. The demos and borrowing of riders that I have used is just not worth the extra space. I also must h prefer the controls of the weight to the Toro, they are much more intuitive, in my opinion, but I started on Wrights, so it might just be my bias.
I would like to try a stander but I'm a solo operator, I can rest my body while mowing with the zero turn, to be able to trim and blow all day...I'm in my mid 50s and diabetic....95% of my properties are an acre and up....that's why it's hard for me to commit to a stander....actually bought a new bobcat zero turn 3 weeks ago
The Ferris Z3X 72 is surprisingly comfortable ride. You might want to demo one. With your diabetes, the exercise for your legs would be good for you, and the suspension platform takes most of the shock out of your knees. Cut quality is on-par (if not better) than your Bobcat.
Everyone should have both options. You can mulch or side discharge during the summer but spring and fall our clients require collection. I refer bagging systems as a vacuum to keep properties cleaner. Stand-Ons are great for many reasons. Number one is getting on and off to pick up trash is so much faster, and they have better visibility and tighter turning control. But for all the reasons you mentioned the rider/vac system has a longer season of use. We will use the rider without the vac system impeller and tube to side discharge but almost never take the catcher off.
We mow about 50 properties and half of them are fairly rough and we float the deck of holes and ditches often. How much of a hastle is it to float the deck on a stand on unit?
I am just getting in to lawn care, my question is what should I get as a nooby and I have a broken back and two blown knees... So I am wondering which unit would be better for me to get over all.
The isx 800 52 stander is cheaper at 7500 than the stander 52 at 10,500. They seem close in weight. I like the sit down better because I have bad ankle but im used to a sulky that are horrible on your body. Maybe that new ferris stander is much smoother with suspension. Are they alot smoother than a sulky?
Great video Bryan, Hey, I noticed the right side front of deck anti-scalp roller is worn out and hanging crooked on your zero turn mower..... just fyi.
Brian another great video as usual. I would say that it’s pretty spot on. The price point is negligible though as my Lazer-Z E series was 9 grand brand new similar to a Vantage or Ferris as demoed. Also the seat is almost standard in the E-series now as mine came with it. But I think for a diversified business attack and approach you will need both honestly. I did notice in a lot of your videos you don’t have fenced yards (presuming you have some). That is where the stand on will come in play. As usual keep up the solid content. Also where did you get the trash grabber bracket at? I need one.. If business keeps it up as it has this year I’m going to get a Vantage at the end of the season and then possibly the big BEAST that Exmark makes! Have a great one!!!
The little grabber guy I got at my dealer, it was maybe $10 bux. The bracket was from Jungle Jims accessories, they sell them online. No promo codes for them, sorry! And actually, I have zero gated back yards. I dropped them all 3 years ago, best decision I ever made (for my biz model).
Brian's Lawn Maintenance thank you for the heads up there. Do people often ask you to do fenced yards quite often and how do you go about declining them? Reason I ask is I’m going to have to reconsider my operations at the end of the year. I’m a solo guy running about 53 yards this year on my days off from the firehouse and doing army stuff. I’m gonna have to break down and possibly get a helper I think. Also on another side note (yardbooks) is a giant game changer for me and their XL route optimizer. Great video on that too!!
Stand on ALL THE WAY!!!!!! I have a gravely stand on and a gravely zero turn. Both are commercial and when I want something stripped I use my stand on. I love the Gravley stand on!!!! Especially when I’m constantly mowing my costumers yards.
I like my stand-on. The Staris is my first commercial mower I purchased, however I demoed a few sit downs. I don’t like having to keep getting up and my visibility is way better. Also living in Michigan, I feel safer riding slopes over sitting.
I use a Scag Pro V with the velki. It ain’t brand new but it cuts great and the lower center of gravity and ride height is so much better for mowing under trees, and walking it on steep terrain is easy. Plus, it’s got the handlebar controls which I prefer way over the pistol grips on the turf tracer or swz. Too bad Scag and eX-Mark now only use pistol grips(other than the swzt). I see tendinitis in my future. Or I will switch to a zero turn.
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You guys know my thoughts! What’s yours? Stand On or Zero Turn?! Comment below!
Brian's Lawn Maintenance neither. Walk Behind all the way.
Made my pick on the gravely 52 pro stance. Just waiting for fleet discount and trailer 👍🏼 already have clients asking me to do their lawns 🙌🏼
Stand on. I think they are way faster, they are more maneuverable, You can see in front of you way better , And they take up less space
If it can't be done with a z mower use a walkbehind
THIS IS Like Vanilla OR Chocolate
Body type; weight; coordination
Lots of variables. Which is less maintenance, most productive, best warranty, best dealer.
How about tires
Width, Diameter, tread design
bias-ply vs radial vs tweel
shorts vs longs vs ticks 😨
Bottom Line: you'll need both.
That's why they are Professionals
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any Kubota dealers near you?
You pretty much nailed it. Stander is much more versatile. Almost nothing they can't do. But for leaf removal and big fairly flat wide open spaces a zero turn is definitely the way to go. I rolled a 60" Dixie Chopper with all of the safety switches off straight backwards and was looking up at the bottom of the deck with the blades on at full throttle. Scariest moment of my life. No more taking a zero turn on hills for me.
Holy fuck BRO 😳
Woah
I'm 64 years old and still prefer a stand-on. Easier to get on and off, easier to control just using my hands instead of arms. Easier when mowing under tree limbs - no roll bar and I can get lower squatting/ducking down than I can when I lean over on my Skag Cheetah. I'm not a pro, just a homeowner that mows a few acres.
I cut lawns by myself as a side hussle business with a noncommercial Husquvarna 46 zero turn doing residential work only. I have never used a Stander mower and dont want to finance any brand of super expensive equipment $5000 plus). I personnally would prefer my sit down zero turn simply to save my legs for the inevitable string trimming as well as blowing time in yards. Keep up the great lawn videos..., your a natural!
But you can get commercial equipment that will last you longer for the same price of a top of the line residential sit down 0 turn
So having just cut several times with my new Wright Stander, I am finally able to angle cut my front yard because the front to back distance is so short on the stander. I can turn around on a dime and am now able to do so much more with this mower in tight spaces than before. It's amazing. Thanks Brian....
Both have their place for me...I love stand-ons for smaller properties or areas where we aren’t mowing for more than a few minutes, but the zero-turns shine on larger properties (we mow a couple that are 20+ acres).
I think that both are must haves in our industry. If you're working on both residential and commercial. It just makes sense to have both. Kind of like having a short bush trimmer vs a pole bush trimmer. Depending on the job it just depends on the right tool for the job.
Hey Brian as always great video. I've been using a 60 zero turn. Many of my properties are several acres. Yesterday I had the opportunity to demo a Ferris 52 stander and fell in love. So much more nimble and honestly the bigger properties I got finished just as fast. A little tricky at first. I'm also 53 and have a bad knee and mowed some very rough property's. After adjusting the platform and lowering the air pressure on the tires it rode great. It was much better on my back. I pulled a 12 hr day and wasn't any more tired than normal. I think it would make sense to have one of each but I have a feeling I'll use the stander more.
Yeah I prefer the standers, they can be just as fast and similar deck sizes.
I love the standard. In love with the scag vride with that advantage deck. I am small and do about 30 accounts. Mostly residential with a few 2 acre properties. I love the compact size which saves space on the trailer and I can save time mowing ditches versus a sit down. Also there is a company that makes a vacuum bagging system for stand-ons. Great video
I too have always had the concern of not having capabilities of "feathering deck" say flat ground to top of slope goin in... ( insert bogg down "scalp" sound here..)
It's an UUUUUUUUUUUGE decision!
You always do over & above to help her fellow "Yawd-Mon" thank you sir for all the effort & EXTRA work you put into vlogging!
I have never had a set down z turn. My stand on Deere 636m is my first commercial mower. Lawncare is a side hustle for me but I made my choice due to being 53 when I bought. Getting in and off ease was the biggest reason for my choice of a stand on and space on my 5x10 trailer.
Thanks for the video
Randy
Mr. C's Lawncare Awesome pal
Really great to see everyones preference and awesome information and comparison of the two. Nice video Brian!
Have always used zero turns, but have developed sciatic nerve issues in the last year or so and sitting on a zero turn for more than a few hours a day now really takes a toll on my back and leg, so stand on next for me... but will still keep one zero turn as backup
Zeroturn for large properties and Stander for smaller properties. Wouldn't hurt to have one of each. Each mower designated for specific properties.
This comment. I agree 100% with this statement. The Stander is perfect for the smaller properties, or groups of them. Granny yards and so forth. The Zero is better for those open expanses where you're going to be mowing for awhile, such as large church lawns or farm properties.
Wardor 1992 every mower has its place 👌🏼
Great video Brian , I have one each , I’m on my second toro grandstand 2800 hrs on the first . I use the stander mostly . Great for ditches and slopes. Your right. It’s about preference. And definitely need a good bagging system for fall.so the zero turn is great for that . The grandstand has come out with a full bagging system. That’s all I know. This is a great industry and I think guys like you are helping make it a respected and professional industry. Keep it up.
Stand on. I love being able to see all the way around me. I had a tough decision of what to get because this was my first mower but I love everything about my stander. I can't say anything bad about a sit down because I have never use one.
I think you did a great comparison. I’ve been mowing for 18 plus years, starting with the exmark turf ranger then to the lazers, I really never paid much attention to the stand ons before but after seeing you demo them it might be something to look at adding in the future.
I got my own lawn care company and work for one. I have a 42 inch cub cadet zero turn I’m only two years in. And the company I work for had two Wright standers a 36 and 52. As a newer lawn care guy for me the 42 cub zero was way easier to learn. The stander definitely took some time to feel comfortable with but once I got the hang of it I fell in love. I’m saving for a 52 Bradley stander now
Brian I demoed them both and see a place from them both in the lawn industry. I was looking to cut my own property and maybe a few accounts. The stander felt less natural to a beginner like me. I was worried about hills and inclines because a cut a few on my own property and my neighbors. I found out its all about the width of the machine and tires. Once I added bigger and wider tires it handles hills and inclines like a stander with a seat lol. I enjoy cutting much more and not scared to be riding those hills and inclines. Thanks for all you do for us. Still liking that Ferris stander thou😀
I've been running a lawncare and landscaping company for 8 years now and we started with a residential sit down Murray for 1,000 new. It lasted all of half my first season. Next was a residential zero turn John Deer and residential Husqvarna. Fast forward 8 years. Back hoes, track loaders and half a million in equipment. We have all stand on Ferris mowers on 1 truck. 36. Z1x stander, 48 Z2x stander, 72 Z3x stander. 2nd truck is the second way just with scag and a few differences in deck sizes. At the shop we keep 2 sit down Exmark mowers as back up and the landscaping crews use them on jobs at times. We also keep 1 extra 36 inch ferris Stand on mower as a back up, 30 inch Exmark push and a Kobalt electric push. Stand on mowers increased production and we cut on average 3 to 5 more yards a day using stand on mowers vs sit downs, happier employees, employee retention, because you can cut me 3 to 5 more yards using standers vs sit down mowers means I can pay crew leaders significantly more money with a monthly bonus if they don't call out and don't get complaints. They are less fatigued and every employee I have prefers a stand on mower over a sit down mower unless it's leaf season because they will use the sit down mowers like little bull dozers and push the leaf piles to the road for pick up. This is not just my opinion this is mine and 2 crew leaders and 2 others that run mowers. 5 votes for stand on mowers here.
I think that it's good to use both. I have both and I find that the sit down hurts my lower back after a few hours and stand on gives relief on your back but stress on the legs and hands after a while . I've learned alternating mowers works best. I will cut a few yards sitting and then switch back .
I agree with everything you said in this video. I have been in lawn business for 15 years and always said I would never use a stander, well this spring I decided to get a Exmark Vantage because I’m a Exmark fan lol, because of some small back yards I have picked up over the winter. Since getting that machine and running it, I have fell in love with it and have let my Lazer Z set on trailer. So much quicker and comfortable on and off machine and trash cleanup. I will be trading my Lazer in on a Vantage with a 60” deck real soon. The Vantage I recently purchased was a 48” deck. I will eventually only have one sit down mower and that will be my 72” deck for large properties.
Ground Hog I feel ya pal 100%
Stand on for me, firstly because I need a 36inch for my back yards, you have better vision for what’s ahead, more compact for room in the trailer, you don’t have to constantly get up when picking up trash, or pulling the chute up when entering a tight space, also dust doesn’t go right in your face. Zero turn would be my choice if I had primarily huge commercial properties, and steep inclines they are the best.
Well said. I think it makes sense to have both (if possible) so you can choose the most productive choice for the job. I thinks it's time they add fast hydraulic deck lifts on both as an option, thumb or foot switch for up and float down.
my old gravely z has a hydraulic deck lift. never even saw it before i bought it. the feature is brilliant.
John Deere has hydraulic lift decks
Finally found it done close to right th-cam.com/video/C4QqXCFn_i8/w-d-xo.html
We have a Kubota with a hydraulic deck, we hate it. It's just another expensive repair and throughout the day the deck will start to get lower. Chains are the way to go until someone gets hydraulics right.
IMO you hit the most important pros for the Zero Turns and that's the Vac systems and the feathering of the deck !! And my last comment is why are you never wearing shorts mowing on a zero turn ??? LOL I never have a problem getting grass all over me...Yeah if the wind is blowing a certain way it can come out of discharge and come back to the rider but I will then just mow a different direction. Im in NY and im in shorts as soon as the temps break 70 degrees !! Screw wearing jeans or long pants in 80 90 degree heat !! Great Job on all the Demos Brian I really appreciate your channel and the content you put out !!
I wear a hoodie and jeans like year around even in August lol. I dunno.
Wow we just got our first real heat wave up here in NY 90 plus degrees with humidity and you wont see me working past 2 o clock !! And that will be after changing my shirt and underwear at least once !!
@@kevinboo2000 lol,,, 90+,,, too funny, try 100-1115 range with high humidity here in tx.. some summers, fewer 100+ days, some summers a lot more, it's a crap shoot, not to mention all the bugs and mosquitoes. 9-10am is already 90+, doesn't get back to 90 and lil below til midnight-1am. weather in ny is a dream, only in summer.
I wrestled with this question when I bought my cheetah n v ride 2. The answer for me was both, but if you’re not in the position I would say a 52” stander is a good machine to tackle a lot of properties. Anything with many obstacles stander is the way to go, anything wide open 1/2” n up ztr! Like always nothing over 1100lbs too. Lightweight is the future of mowers.
Shorts are a must during the summer here in Florida
I've never used a stand on but your reviews are really convincing me of the pros.
What is the starting price point for a stand up vs a zero turn?
They’re convincing me too! All depends. There honestly a budget for all of them. Everything available today is between 7.5-14 for both ztr or stand on.
Thanks Brian I appreciate what you do with this TH-cam channel.
You bet Ron
I havent been able to try a stander yet. However, most of the technology you were referring to that is new on the standers, is also available on the zero turns from the same manufacturer. (Velocity deck, 37 hp Vanguard, oilguard, etc)
As far as comfort goes. YOU NEED TO DEMO A FERRIS 3200 SERIES ZERO TURN. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. Especially since you have recently been able to demo the standon equivalent from them.
Maybe this fall! Looks like a great unit!
I think to put it this way I certainly love mowing my lawn and neighbors lawns. I usually use my Scag Cheetah 72 and my employees use the Scag V Ride 2 61 and Scag V Ride 48. I even had a vision I was on the Dixie Chopper Xcaliber 74 (if Dixie was still around though).
Many times my employees and I use the Exmark and Toro 30 mowers for the smaller lawns and we do walk a lot. I think for me If I have to do the bigger parts on my lawn or neighbors lawns thats usually good for the Cheetah 72 I let my employees mow the parts that aren't too big.
I usually don't mow the slopes with the Cheetah that I leave it to my employees on the V Ride and V Ride 2.
Great video Brian.
Excellent presentation of the pros and cons. Wow what a beautiful trailer/tow rig!!
Thank you!
It’s hard to not have both for all the reasons you mentioned. A mechanic doesn’t have just one wrench. We bought a scag tiger cat II last year and trying to decide what stander we are buying this year. Love our Scag but that Ferris is looking pretty good.
HI Brian, zero turn for me . Why, I'm an older guy and need to sit because my knees couldn't stand standing all day. Thank you for doing these video's and yes being in a back lot looks better than in a place where you are working sometimes. :)
W Lewis Ha true! There’s just too much wind at my commercial site over there
I love the pro stance from gravely... Love the speed of sit down zero turn, but I feel the stand on can get closer to objects and handles the hill and slopes without the sliding. Plus I feel like you look cooler on a stand on.
Chris Fisher Lol love it
Stand on all day. Efficiency, productivity, visibility and better ergonomics. Space Savin is nice but I’ve found stand on much more versatile. I run jd quick traks with tweels on all. Each trailer has 60” zero, 52” stander 48” walk. Stander is used on 95 percent of all routes but I feel zero and walk still have their place. Thanks great vid!!
purchased my Bobcat Quickcat 48 for 7k out the door in Monroe, MI. The 52 was a few hundred more. I got the 48 for access to backyards on my route
I love The Gravely ProStance because I feeling like you can get under things without sitting down plus I feel like the Pro Stance would better your body pain after a long period of time compared to a zero turn.
Depends on how much you mow, smaller residential lots stand on all day, but for the bigger 1 acre lots sit down, I just finished demoing the z3x 72” but didn’t like how bouncing it got on my maintenance lots, I’m going to look at the hustler hyperdrive next, but you need 1 of each, I have both and each have its purpose
Tracy & Son's Lawn Care we just pick up Ferris Z2 52'' on 10/13/2018 thank to you doing a review.
I started my business when I was 13 in my neighborhood and I have used a 22 inch push mower my whole life. Yes, I only had 3 or 4 accounts back then, but, now that I’m 15, my business has snow balled. I cut about 18-20 yards a week... still with a 22 inch push mower. So I’m walking the whole time, and I just get tired too fast. So, I think I will have say a zero turn is what I will be getting soon. I did demo a couple standers and a couple zero turns and I like the zero turns a bit better.
The LAWNdromat Awesome pal
Props to you man! I also started when I was 13 and am 15 now. I started with a push mower but I whimped out and bought a used walk behind (best investment ever) i wish you luck in your search as I am right there with you in finding what mower is right for you!
I 100% agree with Lucas, a walk behind is where it’s gonna be at for you. The eX-Mark Turf Tracer is really hard to beat, they are awesome on hills. I like the Scag Pro V because of the handlebar controls vs the pistol grip controls, but the Scag doesn’t hold a ditch line or hill like the Turf Tracer does. Plus you can get a stand on attachment for them for your bigger yards, which just lifts out of the way when you need to walk it instead of ride it.
When we do clean ups we grind and leave the ground up leaves in the grass. Makes great fertilizer.
yep, sitters are heavier, but they're more comfortable for a long day. and i'm pretty good at avoiding turf damage ( aside from weeds ).
again, loving that trailer ( the truck too ).
Thx bud
Sit down. I feel more confident on a sit down. I feel like everyone piggybacks off of the "picking up trash'" Comment. How many times per yard do you actually pick up trash? My biggest reason, I have horrible knees.
if you have a grab stick, you don't even have to get off of the mower. on trashier properties i'll carry it with me, but i'm thinking about rigging up a mount to carry it on my rider all the time. even on clean yards, you'll sometimes encounter a piece of trash or two you don't want to run over.
G4 Outdoors I recon my properties to make sure that I pick up all trash & debris before I mow.
kodiak wild Exactly. I have a trash grabber too but I hardly ever use it because I don't come across rubbish that much and if I do its only the odd bit on a commercial property or sharehouse that I'm happy to just get off for and kick out of the way. If your that lazy that you don't want to get off your mower once or twice on a property on the odd occasion there's something wrong lol ;D
JWN Lawn Care why not walk your properties & pick up trash b4 mowing? Idky that's so hard.
King David 314 You can do that too which yes I will do if not before starting anything at least while trimming but most of my places are pretty clean so anything that's on the lawn will have just been blown there by the wind or whatever.
Hey Brian! Great video as always man. I personally prefer a sit on z-turn. Prefer the sit down because you can be less fatigue at the end of the day and they are much better on hills. Also since I can get the bigger engines that's a huge plus. And since the decks come from anywhere from 32' to 109' their is a deck for every application. One of the down sides though is visibility. But keep up the great work brother, God bless ya!!
I was typing my reasons while listening to the video and you touched on everything I wrote Dang. The Commercial electric ZTR's get up to $25,000
Lol I tried to be comprehensive!
Stand on all the way!! My dad and I have a Z2 and 2 Z3x’s And we both love them. The Z2 is a 54 in deck which is good for more residentials and then the Z3x is a 61 in deck. With both Z3’s we cover a lot more ground when we are mowing our big commercial properties. Along with just the ride quality of the Z3 is outstanding. The stand on’s are just a whole lot more efficient when it comes to saving time and energy but still having good quality of work.
great video! ya, i saw your grabber on the ztr, where is your bucket? LOL!
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As always great vids, I have 1 Wright 36 idensity and 1 52 Wright stander x. Visibility and space a must 4 me. And most importantly like you mentioned, jumping off to pick up trash or jumping off if you come across any near accidents.
Never tired either.. only toro proline walk behind. I love it
I'm just starting out and I got a stand on I like it because it gets into tight spaces and have great view around flowerbeds hustler super S 36 inch:)
Bought a stand on (V-Ride 48 deck) to replace a tractor, I know, not a zero turn, for a lot size of approximately 3/4 acre with trees, stone edging and plants along the edge of the lawn. Property slopes about 10 feet toward one side and the stability on slopes, both up and down and across is excellent. For me the natural hand position eliminates shoulder movement as I have issues with both shoulders. Visibility is excellent as you can see all 4 corners of the unit and once you get accustomed to the way the front wheels swivel you can get around obstacles easily. First time out drove the 48 inch deck machine through a 50 inch gate opening without ever touching the posts, although I did reduce speed but did not reduce to a crawl. What took 90 minutes now is done in 60 with far less hand edge trimming. Much easier on the body than sitting down and bouncing around. A neighbor with a Wright sit on can not navigate areas that I can but his is a 52 inch deck. Easy on and off to pick up debris is also a handy feature. Run the tires a few pounds lower than recommended and have never torn up the turf, even when the ground is soft.
I have a Grandstand from Toro. I have taken on hills and slopes in a crazy manner. One hill I had to get off the back in order keep the front wheels on the ground when I got to the top. I take on more steeper slopes with my stander rather than the zero turn that I have. If I get a second unit I will get a stander. I have an accelerator catcher for the stander, I can stop, dump, start in about 1 minute. I have a bagger for my zero turn and they work great too. The only problem with either system, I use yard bags because the city where I live pick up yard waste. Loading the bags is a hassle, for the most part. I am working out the kinks in those situations. With that said I am Toro all the way!
I like on of both. If mowing for long periods of time I will use the sit but just for little jobs I will just use a stand on
Stand on! Much easier on the body! Gravely pro stance gives a deck feather on the platform! Cut on a zero turn for 5 years tried the stand on and love it
2 herniated discs in my back id rather stand than sit. My first ztr killed my back from the bumps. The vantage i got now keeps my back in line and is fun to drive
I hear ya.
I've been cutting grass for 11 years, I'm 32, back in 2015 I had a herniated disc, by the end of the season, (4 month recovery no surgery) I have only used zero turns, and walk behind, zero turn makes the job faster, I've never tried the stander mower, but would love to, zero turn keeps making my back hurt again.
Great work Brian!
I enjoy the walk behinds just because I'm a tall guy and can move quickly. But zero turn hands down for speed, the bagger on our gravely proturn works like a dream as well, 950hrs going strong. 48in deck will get anywhere you need with a zero turn, and that's even with a bagger on the back.
This being said I'm fairly biased as I haven't used stand on mowers at all. But I like sitting.
Also thought I should add another pro for the zero turn is the motor sits behind you so it keeps the exhaust more out of the way than a stand on.
I just bought my first zero turn the other day and love it to bits! I think the idea of a stand on would be interesting but they are quite rare here in Australia and very expensive even for a 36" so I'm yet to try one. Yes you have the convenience of picking stuff up easily I guess as many people have mentioned but on a big property with virtually no rubbish at all I can't see too much of a point over sit downs. I really like my current mower because it has a very nice seat and I already spend most of my time standing up so being able to sit down is something I love. Not sure what you meant with the shorts on stander vs sit down comment though, I wear shorts 99% of the time when I'm working whether it's summer, winter or anywhere in between and don't really have any troubles. Maybe its just that I'm used to stuff being flung at my legs while trimming lol
Looking at demoing a stand on this spring. I think the head clearance around trees will be a huge difference from our sit down zero turns. We’ve run John Deere Z-Tracs for years but we’re going to demo the scag this spring.
Kind of a thought, i run a 36” wb, 36” stand on, and 48” ztr. That work perfectly for my accounts. But i run stand on unit on about 75% of them. Due to small gates, smaller yards, or lots of obstacles. It’s actually more maneuverable thrn my wb. But the purchase of the stand on opened up alot more opportunities due to less time on properties then with the wb. They all have their places
I got a exmark walk behind and love it but some days i would like to sit down. Now i did get a toro zero turn but dont like it. Even doing 3 or 4 point turns it still tears the ground up. Now it is a homeowner version. Im gonna try to use different tires as those are skinny and have alot of tread to the them. My buddy said i can buy one of his scag tiger cubs that need some work. Which ive drove his and love them.
Wright sport x.. the best of both worlds. They need to start making more standers with seats!
I just ordered a Wright Sport I for the same reason. I have both back and knee issues. Looking forward to Spring of 2019!
I'm looking at a standers. But here in Panama City we have piles of tree stumps from hurricane Micheal. And no shade. On the zero turn I can mount shade and kick the deck up and down for stumps but I too have sciatica. Decisions decisions...
Great video Brian you hit about every pro and con spot on. I’m a home owner with a large property to cut is why I use a exmark zero turn. But if I was a lawn business owner I would have stand in units for sure. The top 3 advantages I see from all stand on owners is productivity ( easy to get in and off for trash or limb pickup) stability (after to lean your weight on steep inclines) and size (able to fit more equipment on the trailer). I wander if any company’s would let you demo a stander with a dedicated mulch kit this fall and see how it does with leaf cleanup
Thanks pal
I like the zero turn for my 5 acre yard. The speed is nice and the option to add on a bagging system is key. Ferris/Simplicity for their suspension system and my old back. LOL
I actually bought a 20+ year old bobcat ztr this year as my first start up mower, I do have issues with really tight spaces I see the advantage of having both.
I own a gravelly zero, it’s been great ( 5 years) I’m thinking a stand on would suit me better, as far as getting on & off, thanks Brian👍👍🙏🥰
You can also tow with the zero turn. Feathering is by far the biggest pro for the ztr imo. It’s a huge must where I live.
I'm a homeowner and there are no homeowner stand-on machines; they are all commercial and cost too much for what I do. Plus, I am chill'n on my ZT and saving my legs for cycling. I got the ZT so that I no longer have to stand and push a mower. I've done that since 1997. Sitting and chill'n while cutting the lawn is a Big Pro for me.
I like sit down zero turn because I’m use to a sit down zero turn more than a stand on. I learned how to use a zero turn first and I feel I have better control. I also have knee issues from college lacrosse so I can’t stand on a machine for more than an hr especially if I’m not moving around.
Stand on for normal every day lawns
Sit on for very hilly and crazy big bumpy lawn field kinda stuff
Stand is my go to
It depends, if you are mowing a lot of commercial property where there would be trash and/or it’s a small quick yard I would go with a stand on mower. If you mow a lot of lots and large yards go with sit down mowers. Me personally I use a sit down, because I mow a lot of lots and large yards.
Zero turn but only because I have trouble with the right side of my body. I had a stroke. I would have a stander if the controls were different . I am considering the Hustle trimstar though? Demo please Brain?
Well see!
I’ve also had a stroke that affected my right side so I know ur pain. I bought a zero turn 6 months before it happened
I have been in business for quite some time now I have learned that Zero Turns are much better for rough hilly and big acreage properties but you got to go where the money's at smaller properties with sod and irrigation you leave less of a footprint with a lighter weight machine they both have their advantages
Just came across this video . I’m just about to purchase my first ride/stand on mower. I’m going to go with a stand on mostly due to the fact 95% of my lawns are 6500sq ft or less and most have 36” gates.
This is a serious preference my guy
Over 50 years old. While I would love a stander for smaller footprint and better hill control, my knees cannot take it all day. I have both but sit-down is my main work horse.
Which one can you control better? Like which one drives the best as fast as turning and going around trees, swings, and other objects in the yard?
im just starting a lawncare business with a 21in. self proppeled and a ryobi 2 cycle weedeater. i would prefer a stand on mower in the future mainly because a zer turn wouldnt fit in the back yards im mowing because the gates are too small. im hoping in the next couple years i could get a wright 32in stand on
me and my friend are starting in the summer and we are in 6 grade right now. my inspiration came from #Brian'sLawnMaintnence and #Spencer'sLawncare
I don’t have a lot of experience with a sit down zero turn. I really am loving the stander for all the reasons you stated. Actually when you step off the Z3X the pto automatically shuts off.
This is true. I love that feature!
Why do I have to pick just back pain or knee pain Brian?!?!
:-)
I have been landscaping for 7 years and have used standers since day 1.
Started with a 52" wright stander, then when that blew up the company bought a 61" wright zk, this machine was 100% worth the price tag. We have many larger lawns and it shreds through them. We have always had the 36" walk behind in thetrailer, which is a necessity on 3 jobs, unfortunately. Once the company got big enough to add a third mower to the trailer the decision was a no brainer, stander it was. We got the 52" Wright intensity. (Would have gotten the X but the dealer did not have any, and we needed it that day, lesson learned; dont rush, and always have a backup mower) the intensity is just too light, so the traction on hills is to be desired. (Other than that it is a fantastic mower) standers are the only way to go, in my opinion. They are easier on the back, way more compact, and way more maneuverable. The demos and borrowing of riders that I have used is just not worth the extra space. I also must h prefer the controls of the weight to the Toro, they are much more intuitive, in my opinion, but I started on Wrights, so it might just be my bias.
0-turn bad leg from a accident . Great video .
I would like to try a stander but I'm a solo operator, I can rest my body while mowing with the zero turn, to be able to trim and blow all day...I'm in my mid 50s and diabetic....95% of my properties are an acre and up....that's why it's hard for me to commit to a stander....actually bought a new bobcat zero turn 3 weeks ago
The Ferris Z3X 72 is surprisingly comfortable ride. You might want to demo one. With your diabetes, the exercise for your legs would be good for you, and the suspension platform takes most of the shock out of your knees. Cut quality is on-par (if not better) than your Bobcat.
Sylent Xtinction since this video...I purchased a Bradley stand on mower
@@wayneslawncare9241 how is the bradley working out for you?
Will Krapfl it's doing very well ....no problems
@@wayneslawncare9241 Better question is how are you doing with the standon?
Everyone should have both options. You can mulch or side discharge during the summer but spring and fall our clients require collection. I refer bagging systems as a vacuum to keep properties cleaner. Stand-Ons are great for many reasons. Number one is getting on and off to pick up trash is so much faster, and they have better visibility and tighter turning control. But for all the reasons you mentioned the rider/vac system has a longer season of use. We will use the rider without the vac system impeller and tube to side discharge but almost never take the catcher off.
If you can only afford one, go with the rider and bagger in Michigan.
We mow about 50 properties and half of them are fairly rough and we float the deck of holes and ditches often. How much of a hastle is it to float the deck on a stand on unit?
I am just getting in to lawn care, my question is what should I get as a nooby and I have a broken back and two blown knees... So I am wondering which unit would be better for me to get over all.
The isx 800 52 stander is cheaper at 7500 than the stander 52 at 10,500. They seem close in weight. I like the sit down better because I have bad ankle but im used to a sulky that are horrible on your body. Maybe that new ferris stander is much smoother with suspension. Are they alot smoother than a sulky?
Great video Bryan, Hey, I noticed the right side front of deck anti-scalp roller is worn out and hanging crooked on your zero turn mower..... just fyi.
Haha yeah I haven't cared to fix er yet.
Once those anti scalp wheels ride up over the high spot the center of your deck will scalp unless you feather the deck over it. They sorta help haha.
Hey great video!
Brian another great video as usual. I would say that it’s pretty spot on. The price point is negligible though as my Lazer-Z E series was 9 grand brand new similar to a Vantage or Ferris as demoed. Also the seat is almost standard in the E-series now as mine came with it.
But I think for a diversified business attack and approach you will need both honestly. I did notice in a lot of your videos you don’t have fenced yards (presuming you have some). That is where the stand on will come in play.
As usual keep up the solid content. Also where did you get the trash grabber bracket at? I need one..
If business keeps it up as it has this year I’m going to get a Vantage at the end of the season and then possibly the big BEAST that Exmark makes!
Have a great one!!!
The little grabber guy I got at my dealer, it was maybe $10 bux. The bracket was from Jungle Jims accessories, they sell them online. No promo codes for them, sorry! And actually, I have zero gated back yards. I dropped them all 3 years ago, best decision I ever made (for my biz model).
Brian's Lawn Maintenance thank you for the heads up there. Do people often ask you to do fenced yards quite often and how do you go about declining them? Reason I ask is I’m going to have to reconsider my operations at the end of the year. I’m a solo guy running about 53 yards this year on my days off from the firehouse and doing army stuff. I’m gonna have to break down and possibly get a helper I think.
Also on another side note (yardbooks) is a giant game changer for me and their XL route optimizer. Great video on that too!!
Hi! Thanks for the information. I’m starting landscaping business. What brand do you recommend for zeroturn and stand on mower? Thanks
How do you get those strips in the yard like one of your yards had diagonal strips
We have a whole video on stripes!
Standon - Only having to disengage the blades and get off is my favorite feature of standon.
Stand on ALL THE WAY!!!!!!
I have a gravely stand on and a gravely zero turn. Both are commercial and when I want something stripped I use my stand on. I love the Gravley stand on!!!! Especially when I’m constantly mowing my costumers yards.
I like my stand-on. The Staris is my first commercial mower I purchased, however I demoed a few sit downs. I don’t like having to keep getting up and my visibility is way better. Also living in Michigan, I feel safer riding slopes over sitting.
I’ll take an eXmark turf tracer with the pro slide xt. Can out mow, maneuver faster, lighter, and way less to work on.
And AWESOME striping!!
I'm with you
I use a Scag Pro V with the velki. It ain’t brand new but it cuts great and the lower center of gravity and ride height is so much better for mowing under trees, and walking it on steep terrain is easy. Plus, it’s got the handlebar controls which I prefer way over the pistol grips on the turf tracer or swz. Too bad Scag and eX-Mark now only use pistol grips(other than the swzt). I see tendinitis in my future. Or I will switch to a zero turn.
Thank you for sharing. Very Helpful.
Stand on has proven to be a lot less stressful on my back....