HOW TO DEAL With A Brand New Cloth! 9 Shots To Help You Understand A New Cloth Better And Faster!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ธ.ค. 2021
- In this video I will help you to understand the differences between a used cloth and a brand new cloth. You can be surprised and frustrated many times, but with these 9 shots I'm gonna give you a better understanding so you won't be caught off guard anymore.
HOW TO DEAL With A New Cloth! 9 Shots To Help You Understand A New Cloth Better And Faster!
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Interesting how an assumption I made many many years ago has served to confuse me for the rest of my pool career. At a young age, I "assumed", incorrectly, that new cloth has MORE grab due to how much easier it is to draw a ball. So more draw means more grab right?......well, clearly wrong. It draws easier because it doesn't lose as much spin on its way to the object ball. But that assumption altered by ability to understand SLIDE on the rails as well. This is why your videos on basic "invisible stuff" is so important....incorrect assumptions like mine at a young age can hold you back for a lifetime. Great video Niels!!! Thanks
Nice one Rick! Thanks for sharing. Takes a lot of matches to really get it under your belt 👍🏼😄💪🏼
That's a very interesting topic rarely talked about. Your commentary in the mosconi is top notch as well.
Tnx Robin! Appreciate it 😄👍🏼
Oh man, Nils commentary in the 2021 Mosconi Cup is soo good...right on point, he's so steeped in the game, the players, the eqpt, the situation etc...and he takes you thru the play from a players perspective, like you're there....no mindless chit chat...all good pool stuff....oh man he's so good at this.
Just watched Woodward beat Ouschan in a wild match with all kinds of stuff happening, and NIls to call it. Priceless.
Tnx guys!! Appreciate it!! Got a match.off now. Next one again 👍🏼😄
so much effort put into this video to show us the difference. the editing and the time spent on both the old and new cloth. all for us to get a Slice of Niels knowledge and experience. Thank you Niels. really appreciate it.
Boi, I'm doomed. As if it's not difficult enough, now the cloth. Let's appreciate Niels doing a lord's job here. After following top pool channels, with a few exceptions they all show the same shots more or less and this guy stands out by delivering top quality fresh content.
Super great video --- a direct comparison! Awesome my friend. Rarely is anyone gonna see this type of change. It really shows the major differences. Be Safe
Tnx!!! Same to you 👍🏼👍🏼💪🏼😄
I've watched a lot of pool videos on TH-cam, but no one has ever demonstrated this effect before. Thank you.
You got it! 🙏🏻🙏🏻😄
Really nice job showing perfect examples. Even after many years, I never noticed how severe the difference is with some shots. I don't think I've seen this covered anywhere else either. Enjoying your channel.
Glad it was helpful! It's a very important subject to be aware of 💪😃
I am impressed! You, my friend, are teaching things about the 'REAL Diff"! I play in 'bars' tournaments, and National and Schedule games on 7' and 8 ' tables! I hope we meet and laugh!
Thank you Sir!! Appreciate it a lot. Thanks for watching and I'm glad you like the videos. 👊😊
I’m so thankful that you take the time out of your day to teach us everything you know. This is something I never would’ve thought of, and now I can make adjustments at the table and read tables better. Thank you!
I am glad you brought this to light because I've been in that situation where the cloth and the balls are brand new and so there are a lot of shots that new cloth takes away. Also a soft tip will help on new cloth.
You have become one of my most favorite players. Love your stuff. I can't get enough of it. I rarely have to worry about this but I just love that you share so much of your knowledge. Sometimes I forget to give you a like so I have to go thru your library and like all the ones I watched
Your channel is so good!
Appreciate it! 🙏🏻🙏🏻😄
New cloth plays different, but has much more advantages in my opinion.
I carry a hand towel in my case sprayed with silicon oil everywhere i go, wiping off the balls and rails to get the same results of a new cloth every time.
Your video shows nothing but pure experience of a champ. Keep it up.
Great job as always Neils, I hope all these pool players truly appreciate the free knowledge a champion like yourself is giving them! Keep up the great work
Your the best brother thank you and WE NEED YOUR 100% COMMENTARY AT ALL THE MAJOR EVENTS!! HEARING YOUR INPUT IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHERS ... LITERALLY DIDNT WANT TO WATCH AND TURNED THE VOLUME DOWN TO WATCH THE MOSCONI CUP UK TERROR SHOW 😔
Thanks a lot 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Marvelous stuff N. Keep up the good work on playing and relating your knowledge.
Been playing for 14yrs and never seen such a comprehensive breakdown of this variable. Thanks for the the pro tips, truly helpful
Great to hear! You're welcome!
Excelent video, again. Niels, you are giving information without any worthless talking. Straight to the point. I love it!
Your video 'DON'T Give your pool match away!' just changed my perspective about competing in tournaments. I am winning A LOT more matches now, it's like I see my progress every week.
Thank you for all brother :)
Cheers, greetings from Poland!
Nice one Adam! Tnx 🙏🏻😄👍🏼
I wish there would be more people in the world like you Niels. Im blessed to find your channel. And im telling everyone about it. Looking forward also to join your college soon. Keep up the good work! Also i have a question about cues, and the tip size, i do know the basic information, but could you explain more how tip choices, diameters, weights works, because when your buying a new cue its not like you allways get to try it before you actualy get it.. And right now im looking for one.. so some insight would help me alot. Thank you.
Thank you, just installed new cloth on my table for the first time and I thought I was going crazy 🤪
Thanks, Niels, We can always count on you to come up with pertaining information on how to improve our game. I always knew there was something off about new cloth, but couldn't put my finger on it.
Glad it’s helping you 😄👍🏼
Marvelous stuff N . Not only are you one of my most favoured
Great video. I was recently wondering about exactly this
Thanksfor the info. For a little while I thought I didn't install my cloth right because it plays weird. i'm glad you talked about this.
Mr. Terminator - perhaps my three WORST shots, and tbh my only SERIOUS weaknesses, are bridging over a ball, shooting off the rail, and shooting with a mechanical bridge! It would be amazing if you could put out a video on any of those! Thank you!
I’ll put it on the list 💪🏼💪🏼😄
Great video. I've played matches with new cloth and always hate it bc my game relies on spin a lot. This video is very helpful for me to learn how to compensate. Would love to hear your ideas on playing in humid conditions as well. Thank you!
Fanatatic video!! I have a brand new table (6 months ago) and love it. However I couldn't figure out the rails and now makes total sense why the corner to corner 3 rail kick goes a diamond long! Wasn't sure if my new table was out of whack. Also, can't wait to try less speed to get more travel off the rail. Much appreciated!
You’re welcome!! All
Sounds familiar 👍🏼👍🏼😄
Niels, thank you very much for doing this for the pool community. You are a legend and a friend!!
Always fun Terminator. Thank you.👍😊
This is one of the most informative pool instruction videos, on a subject that is not covered by others, that I have seen. Great job Niels!
Tnx a lot! Glad you enjoyed it 😄👍🏼
Also while watching the Arizona Open I was surprised to hear that when they set up the tables at a new location the rail cloth will NOT be changed only the bed cloth. So that is a new Database.
Great video Niels ! I have a fairly new table with Simone’s 860 as well, and now I know why spin and kick shots are different on my table verses the pool hall table. Great commentary during Mosconi cup ! You are a true pro ! Happy holidays !
Tnx mate!! U2 👍🏼👍🏼😄😄
This is AWESOME!!!!!
I've never seen anyone demonstrate this so well! Very nice video and lesson!
Do you have a video on a quick way to test the cloth to prepare for a tournament?
Thanks! I think just shoot shots off the rails. Don’t shoot straight in shots cause they won’t help you much 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for the video.Loving your commentary during this years Mosconi Cup!!
Thanks!! 🙏🏻😄
Cheers Niels, will be using these tips in the UK Open this week!
Niels, really awesome job to make a teaching moment out of something most of us don't have enough experience with. When tables are covered in our local room, we get to play with the new cloth a little but it breaks in pretty quickly being played everyday by multiple people. We don't get the level of exposure you do going from tournament to tournament. In your experience, how much playing time does it take before the behavior of the the cloth starts to change? What shots do you try to test a table? What kind of cloth did you have installed?
Takes a few days, I have Simonis 860 on mine 😄👍🏼
@@NielsTheTerminatorFeijen make a video about how to adapt to wet/humid conditions. Out of all the changes on table conditions really humid/raining is the toughest for me to adapt to. My style of play is stunning around the angles when possible which works great on normal conditions and brand new conditions if you know how to adapt, but it seems like on wet conditions the balls throw a whole lot more than expected, the cushions sometimes are extra bouncy if it’s cold outside too and shooting shots all the way down the rail are almost impossible.
Come from Taiwan and love your channel!You makes pool much easier to play with.Honestly,the best tutorial video.
Thank you sir 🙏🏻🙏🏻😄😄
Thx again for all your tips and trix 👌
Ur commentating on Mosconi is outstanding best. Calm, explain perfect and using a good vocabulary 👍👍👍
Cheers Hansie!! 😄🙏🏻🙏🏻
Leuke video. .grappig om de shots zo naast elkaar te zien..
Goed ook dat je helemaal naar huis bent gekomen van uit Engeland en de mosconi cub...
Hart voor de zaak zeg ik..🤔😁
Ja ff snel op en neer 😂👍🏼
Your channel is really helpful Niels. THanks
You got it! 🙏🏻👍🏼😄
Thanks for this Nils, true master 👍
Great as usual. Nice commentary during the Cup.
Tnx Robert! 👍🏼🙏🏻🙏🏻
this video has demystified so much for me. thank you so much
You’re welcome! 👍🏼😄🙏🏻
Aren’t u supposed To be commentating at Mosconi cup right about now Niels? Haha.
This morning he swam up and down to Denmark...
Yep
Doing this quickly between matches hahaha 🙏🏻👍🏼😄
I struggled a lot at the recently concluded UK open for these reasons. Also, the cue ball deflected a lot more than an old one! I wish I had seen this video earlier. By the way. I saw you at the open (bad luck against Melling!) but was too star struck to come say hello. Next year, I'll bother you!
Great video!!!!!!
Not just commentating on the Mosconi cup but also taking care of his TH-cam channel at the same time👍💪
And the new cloth seems to be a big topic at this Mosconi cup...did you make that video during a commercial break or what😂
Hahaha and the hanger shots also! Planned ahead mate 👍🏼😄
Great Video !!!
Wow Earl Strickland is right, POOL IS A DIFFICULT GAME. Niels how many years have you mastered these spins? Really so damn AMAZING.
Interesting stuff! Thanks a lot!
You’re welcome! 👍🏼👍🏼🙏🏻😄
Great vids as always!! On the other side perhaps a video for playing super worn cloths ? I know for one iis very difficult to slide / reverse the cue ball
Tnx! Very work cloth still grabs very well. It mostly depends on how old the rails are 👍🏼😄
Hi Niels ! I’d love to see a comparison with old and new cushions . That would
Be really interesting
Hi Niels, this is very informative. I had a tough time with the spin and slide when my club finally changed its cloth recently. Heard you mention about doing a vid on kick system in future. Looking forward to it 😉
You got it! There’s already a bunch of kicking videos on the channel 👍🏼💪🏼
@@NielsTheTerminatorFeijen Thanks Niels, I will be watching them all 😄👍🏼
Niels, this is by far your best video ever. Very informative and an often overlooked topic. Can you also shed some light on how to compensate for new balls (polished) vs unpolished or older balls. I hear that at the Eurotour, the balls are extremely polished (maybe not with regular ball polisher), can you comment on this? keep up the great work. Groeten uit Nederland
Hmm polished(new balls) make the table play like new. The polish wears off after a few rounds but a new cloth takes longer to wear off. 2 weeks.
This really is a good video. It took quite a bit of time to make. I really appreciate it and I love your voice the accent is awesome! I was told the simonis blue doesn't last as long as the simonis green is there any truth in that?
Never heard that one. Doubt if it’s true 😄😄🤷♂️👍🏼
Hi Niels; I've always struggled on different conditions. Thanks for the tips for new cloth. You mentioned humid conditions in the video. That really gives me trouble. Any chance you can address humid conditions in a future video?
Tnx!!! I’m
Gonna wait for a rainy day and my cloth to wear in a bit more 😄😄👍🏼👍🏼
Thank u for this. I have to keep on changing my stroke and that kills my game
Good awareness info! Enjoy!!
Humidity and ball cleanliness are also big factors but it never seems to be nearly as big as that new cloth LOL. I also find it more difficult to play with a harder tip on new cloth because the speeds are generally slower for position or you're trying to do more of those drag shots which in turn cause you to miss you more often with a hard tip which can be frustrating. I think this is why a lot of the kamui super soft and soft tips are popular with the tournament players because of the new felt and fast table conditions.
I have to watch this again and make notes
Go for it 😄👍🏼🔥
Hey Niels, you are my new favorite pool commentator. You make great job at Mosconi cup, it is very intresting how you explain what is happening on the table.
Vele groeten
Tnx!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😄
These videos are so underrated. He is saving us pool players hours of frustration with these tips
That could be very true indeed! Please share 😄👍🏼🙏🏻🔥
Your old cloth is in better shape than the best cloth at Griff's.
Hahaha not in closeup 😂👍🏼
My ”home” pool hall Double Kiss in Pattaya Thailand, reopened a month ago. All tables with brand new Simonis cloth. The different from the old ones was crazy. There where many mistakes made the first couple of days. 😱🤣🤣
Experiment with the shots from the video 😄😄👍🏼👍🏼
@@NielsTheTerminatorFeijen I wish you had posted this video a month ago ha ha
Out of curiosity Niels, in example 7, how often would you choose the initial route you mentioned? No matter how I look at that shot I always prefer your two solutions mentioned after, using right or the bank. Both of these options seem far greater percentage shots or that may just be my personal bias coming in for those type of shots.
Keep up the amazing work, used to watch you as a kid in the Mosconi and recently got back into cue sports. I was utterly taken back to still see you performing at such a high level, if not even higher!
The consepts of your video are unreal..... Omg... Niels where are you taking us
Improvement sir 💪🏼💪🏼🔥
What about hitting at 7 o'clock, on shot 3, and running 4 rails?
Amazing reactions. Was not expecting this. I thought the opposite would happen.
Crazy isn’t it!? 🤷♂️😄👍🏼
10000 like man ... thx for the nice informations
You got it!! Enjoy 😄
Great commentary at the Mosconi!
Tnx a lot! 😄😄🙏🏻🙏🏻
Those are hard shoots! I wish somebody would collect some statistics about shoots played with running inside at the Mosconi Cup! With a new felt and all the pressure you really don't see a lot of inside english-three-railers.
Wow I realized its different dient realize 😳 how mich it changes thanks for your advice
No problem! Glad it’s helping! 👍🏼😄
Awesome video 👍🏻
I just installed new Simonis 860HR on my table and was very surprised from what I used to have. Thank you for showing an apples to apples comparison Neils 👍🏻👍🏻
Great explanation… 👍👍👍
Tnx!! 🙏🏻💪🏼👍🏼👍🏼😄😄
Thanks Niels I am downloading this to study
Go for it 💪🏼🔥😄
Neils please do a video on humid cloth I can adapt to used and new but used and humid kills my confidence!
When the balls stick and throw more or the english over runs my position I usually just don't play if it has rained that day!
Please help need advice
Hello from Haarlem. Nice one.
Yo yo hallo back 👍🏼😄
Brilliant
Great analysis, thanks Niels!
You’re most welcome!!
very informational video!
Tnx Scott! 👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼
Excellent video! Can you tell more about the material ratio (wool%) ? I thought club table often use cheaper cloth with higher polyester/nylon% , would those cheaper brand new cloth affect more differences than the examples in this video?
To be honest, I’m no real expert when it comes to cloth details. 😬🤷♂️👍🏼
Question I just got Championship Tour Edition cloth with Aramith balls
about how long will the break in take to start playing true
Terrific video! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Tnx ciuck!!
Super intersting. And as many have said, so good to see you doing commentary for teh Mosconi. A mix of braun, brains are sexiness ;)
Haha nice one! 👍🏼😄
Thank you
You’re welcome!!
For Shot #8, my first instinct was to just roll the cue ball a bit harder and maybe with a bit of right to avoid the 3/7 (can't tell whether it's necessary), and end up near the leftmost diamond on the bottom short rail for the 8 in the same pocket as the stripe. That way I'm coming more into the line of the position window. Is there a particular reason why you preferred the shots you showed over this option?
SUUUUUPER POWWWEEFUL COMMENTARY at the Mosconi cup.
On a serious note...you should do a video breaking down key games and positions
From the mosconi you mean? 👍🏼👍🏼
@@NielsTheTerminatorFeijen yes sir
Great video again!
Niels, how is it in case of jump shots?
On new cloth? 👍🏼
@@NielsTheTerminatorFeijen if it's good then it's great news ;) there is one table in our pool hall which has new cloth and most shots are just a nightmare still. So at least if I get hooked during a tournament I know I can send the CB flying ;)
Awesome lessons … When you aim at a diamond do you aim at the actual diamond or the point on the cushion it lines up with ?… cheers
The point on the cushion where it lines up with 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Excellent
Thanks!!
How long till it becomes not new cloth? I just reclothed my table with Simonis 860 and noticed it doesn’t take spin great either.
Very interesting omg
I've been playing on new cloth lately and it's sth completely different than the usual. This video may be helpful
Yes, Mladan. It's a lot different. In the video you will find tips on how to adjust and what to be aware of👌👊
@@NielsTheTerminatorFeijen I realized some things that were mentioned while playing on a brand new cloth. I've noticed that it becomes more normal recently so I hope I won't need to apply your useful pieces of advice you provided in the video.
Wow! Great stuff Neils. Thanks. Just a question, how do you really determine "new" vs "old and ready to be refelted" cloth?
Hmm I gues the wear and tear really starts to show and it reacts slower and slower
@@NielsTheTerminatorFeijen Oh so that's an experience and feel thing too, lol. Btw loving your mosconi cup commentary and really appreciate you taking the time to respond in the middle of all that.
the shot at 8:59, couldn't you also play it with high right and only play the cueball 3 rails?
very interesting... how many racks does it take until a new cloth is behaving more "naturally" again?
Hmm I would say in rotation games where you use the full table
More than one pocket and 14.1 for example, a few days I would say.
That was a nice aspect. what about weather conditions is that affect ?
Yep I mentioned rain and humidity also. Can have a massive effect on the cloth 🔥😄
@@NielsTheTerminatorFeijen? can you tell us something or make short videos on that.
Love all the shots and the comparison were fair enough. But the strength you've used on the 9th shot is very different, see 21:08 vs 21:30
That was too show the curve a bit extra. Even with the same speed it would not reach. I understand your point of view 👍🏼👍🏼
@@NielsTheTerminatorFeijen thanks for the reply. And congratulations for what your channel has become. This is an exclusive topic for sure, me, being an enthusiast of the sport never had the opportunity to see this being shown with comparisons of the conditions. Hoping to see the weather conditions comparison in a future if possible.
Have you ever done a study of the first generation cyclops cue ball? One place I play at has 6 tables and 3 of them have the original cyclops cue ball. I've heard that even the pros have problems with that, and have refused to use it again.
They were not easy to play with that’s true. The newer version is much better!!
@@NielsTheTerminatorFeijen, I'm going to experiment with them tonight because we have league playoffs starting tomorrow evening. I'll use your video as a guide of what to test. Thanks
New cloth is new for how long? At the beginning of a tournament if the cloth is new. By the second round or third does the cloth change?
Takes about 2 weeks before it plays normal again