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The Suzuki Samurai (Jimny) was a compact off-roader with a BIG 4x4 punch! What kicked off as one of the most revolutionary all-terrain vehicles, even outselling the Jeep Wrangler two to one in 1987, ended with an unbelievable fraudulent crash lawsuit that killed Suzuki's automotive American dreams. Sharpen your katanas because host James Pumphrey is about to take a stab at one of Suzuki's greatest creations.
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00:00 Introduction
06:23 American Samurai Warrior
10:35 Suzuki Motor Corp Vs. The Consumer Union
15:24 The Last Samurai
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Imagine being so petty that you change your magazine's testing procedures and deliberately and permanently screw up the reputation of an entire company just because you got into an accident and got lightly injured.
I have a suspicion that they did it (and continue to do it) for more than just the samurai.
Don't ever listen to, or take advice from, consumer reports.
Honestly, I always thought Consumer Reports was a reputable source, I know this happened a long time ago but I'll never trust them again.
David Lindsey same feeling! A story like this should have destroyed them. Suzuki should have gone forward with the lawsuit to teach these third party companies a lesson on fair reviews. I believe in these cases, company reps must be present during testing.
They also had just purchased a new building and were on the verge of bankruptcy. They were looking for an issue that would prove that Consumer Reports was necessary and up their magazine sales.
For years they fought in court stating that they were performing a public service, therefor Suzuki should not be able to sue them. Isuzu also sued for the Trooper II and won.
@@davidlindsey6514 I've never thought CR was a reputable source, especially when it comes to cars. On the other hand, I drove a Suzuki Samarai in the 90s. Absolute junk! Horrible. And don't forget CR always trashes the Jeep Wrangler.
Funny that this vehicle is currently being made for Indian military on order because it is super reliable and go any where
But a butthurt journalist declared it unsafe
@Aryan Thakur thats sick
My guess is that journalist was on money red so(made the fake news) the Samurai was axed out in US
they started early with the fake news.
Yes, but I think there's a few small differences in the global spec Suzuki Samurai and the India spec Gypsy, most probably the engine. Gypsy originally had a tiny 1.0L NA engine and then a 1.3L NA
I have driven a Samurai, they were not as bad as they say, but it was to be respected.
"This thing tips over at high speeds!"
*ignores literally all other SUV's
Lesson learned. Don't sell automobile to Consumer Report's employees.
Don't sell good products to America
Or any kinds of product to them
Best part... "They brought the sign back down with them!" LMFAO
Cocky Jeep owner got flexed on real hard
Sad our government tells us what is safe to drive
The fact literally jeep wranglers tip just as much is horrid.
The feel off accomplishment and badass 🔥
might see that sign on pawn stars now lol
"The Samurai easily rolls over in turns".
Meanwhile I'm doing donuts in my third generation Jimny 😂
Can confirm, they’re actually quiet stable on the road. I spent many a times trying to get a little 3 wheel action on roundabouts back in the day but nooooo haha. In australia they’re badged as a sierra
good
Laughing in my lifted daihatsu rocky🤣
Someday I’ll buy a Suzuki samurai or geo tracker I love it
Hahaha lol
"got scold by my mom because someone snitched that i donut her 4th gen jimny in her farm"
This small, economy boxes are freaking beasts when it comes to carrying stuff across terrains
Here in chile the samurai is a legend and nobody ever questioned his security
Yeah, its like a cheap but more reliable Wrangler
It's the same here in israel
They're everywhere in germany
yep same in Indo
Same in South Africa
The Jimny is wildly popular here in Australia, there's something like a two year waiting list for the 4th generation. In fact they’re so popular I wrote my car off into the back of one.
$30k in NZ for the nice one.
yup, i got it after 1 year of waiting list in indonesia.
Im about to order one this week, wait time as of nov 2021 is 4 - 6 months. Australia.
it was also sold under the name Holden Drover!
@@charlieshaw5380 Looks like they're Holden off on delivery
Fake "news" has ruined America. Cant even have a Suzuki like the rest of the world :(
And we can't have shit in Detroit.
@@achmadtaufiqurrohman0282 is it illegal to take a shit In detroit?
im in arizona and have a registered Suzuki samurai. its not illegal as far as i know
This country was founded on the idea of fake news, dont like it get out.
@@whateverguy3600 I think he means new ones
US drivers: oh heck this 4x4 is so unsafe
The rest of the world: finally some good hecking off roader
That's why you never listen to consumer reports.
But we had the Ford Bronco II, which actually rolled over and killed people, which was ok
Donutdoode69 but guess what they are still being sold there in America because it is not an import. I swear America hates losing lol
Not this US driver, one of my neighbors growing up had one, and used to use it anytime it snowed, I would trust it over his 4x4 Diesel trucks he had at the time.
@@arkekkers No it's just the government that hates losing.
From the videos, the Samurai was actually very difficult to roll over despite numerous tries and being a tall offroad SUV.... what a shaddy company CR is...
They actually modified the course by shortening the distance between the cones and ran it 32 more times than the other vehicles they tested that day (Jeep Wrangler and Isuzu Rodeo). In the raw footage there's the voice of a Consumers Union VP demanding "You tip that car or I'll find someone who will!". Even the driver logs from their most seasoned driver said, "The Suzuki Samurai poses no significant safety risk and outperforms all vehicles tested today."
@Lee Iacoca Judging from your comment and grammar. You seem to lack intelligence.
@@nrgzrbny Yes..... all of us watched the video as well.... There's no need to repeat the audio word for word as though they are your own thoughts/opinions.
I don't know of any other scandals that they were found to have taken part in, but that doesn't mean there aren't any. However, overall they are the exact opposite of shady. The idea of making a whole magazine based upon holding companies accountable for their products and claims by paying verified customers to submit feedback on products after a certain length of ownership is an _excellent_ idea that benefits everyone in our society. They gather and compile LOTS of feedback data from customers and sell "packages" of this data to the companies involved for them to use as a guide for how to improve the next iteration of their product(s).
(I just realized I am actually thinking of the J.D. Power Survey, which is for vehicles specifically, but Consumer Reports operates under the same philosophy and goal of simply informing consumers and holding companies accountable to encourage meaningful improvements, so I still think that they should be seen as a force for good that simply might have had some bad apples, or temporary lapses of judgement due to external pressures of the time)
In 1988, I went with my dad to the Suzuki dealer where he bought a gray hard top Samurai. He passed away in 2016, and I am planning to do a full body-off restoration on it in memory of him. So many great memories in that little SUV driving all over the US in it with my mom & dad. It has a manual transmission, and I passed my driving test to get my license in it when I was 16.
You've had this since 1988 and it hasn't flipped over yet? 😱Amazing!
@@grandetaco4416 If you already know the testing was rigged in order to make them flip, and know that they aren't as easy to flip as the Bronco 2, why would you ask such a dumb question?
Thank you
Hey man, How’s the restoration process going?!
@@vwbug1975 ever heard of sarcasm?
My mom's Suzuki Samurai back then was like a freaking tank! Then when my parents sold it, an off-road fan bought it! AND IT'S STILL ALIVE up to this point! That's like 25+ years
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I feel sad for the US citizens who can't experience this masterpiece...F
I was watching the 2019 New York Auto Show video from Regular Car Reviews yesterday and saw that Suzuki taunted us Anglo North Americans with a Jimny we can likely never have. :(
American here, living in Japan. Just bought a Jimny 3rd Gen :)
We have them, only '95 is the last model. My neighbor actually drives one.
American here, living in the Philippines. Just trying to decide if I really want one due to the fact that they cost very similarly to a hilux and you soo much with a hilux.
Shoot my dad owned 2 samurais and his friend owned like 4 of them.
In the UK, the Samurai(or Jimny as it’s called here) is seen as an incredibly competent off roader and was incredibly popular. Such a shame that a random guy with a grudge managed to kill it off in the states.
In Siberia also
This feels like a documentary on the origin of the first ever recorded male Karen who took down an entire company
11 Hours after posting, still underrated comment lol
Chad btw
You are right, if by "male Karen" you mean someone paid by Chrysler.
One does not risk his reputation just to randomly spite a small car maker, there had to be something bigger behind it.
I have no idea why but I feel like nancy Pelosi was some how involved in this
Fake news, and the failure of people to handle fake news, is f-ing up the world. People cry "fake news" without basis, and when there is actual "fake news" there is no consequence for lying out of your backside.
I remember my dad calling it the “Suzuki Suicide.”
Just sent this to him. Thank you for this rundown!
What was his reaction?
!remindme 72hrs
Yeah how did he reacted
It is already three days. Is your dad ok? What did he say?
Day 3 Update: Father is unresponsive. He must be in shock that he was wrong this whole time and can’t seem to grapple with this fact. He left yesterday to get cigarettes and I’m hopeful that he will return soon.
I always thought those little 4x4 were kind of cool but when the report came out that they were unsafe no one would be caught dead in them. The thing is, you could still see them on the street occasionally and I would wonder why someone would drive a death trap. It seems they knew something I didn't.
Good to know some people have faith in their own common sence.
I bought a brand new 1988 Samurai when they came out and loved it! A brand new car for $6995! Then about 6 months later the BS reports came out. Complete BS but year it killed the brand. I continued to drive mine for 10+ years putting 130,000 miles on it before selling it for $500. I still miss that little thing. Loved it!
damn that was a bargain
Funfacts: The newest Jimny sells like hotcakes here in Germany. Used Jimny are sold for over 25k€, but the retail price of Suzuki is 20k€. They just can't meet the demand.
People say the Jimny is what the g-class used to be: a workhorse. It almost looks like a miniature g-class and with those nice bodykits from Japan it actually looks like a miniature g-class.
Same in Indonesia, people seem to love the new Jimny
i want a jimny
@@p0t4toePotato we want the jimny
Philippines here, I want the Jimny!
Fiat-Chrysler sued Mahindra for building an off-road only Roxor, which was the closest we could get in the U.S.
I honestly think that Suzuki is one of the most underrated car manufacturers ever
not here in asia, they're one of the top selling brands here
Because it is very poor build quality and outdated features
This.
DIVYANSH TYAGI my 2006 Suzuki Grand Vitara has 180XXX kms on it and apart from regular maintenance, I’ve only had to replace the battery. They’re mint
Lucas Van Hamburg hahaha for real
Had a Suzuki Sidekick 4door, 4wd, lifted and big tires and have fond memories of sliding that puppy sideways around the turns on fire roads while covering/escaping forest fires as a photojournalist.
One of the most nimble and reliable underpowered fun trucks I ever had.
350K miles.
“It’s all about surface level references for us, here in the US”
James, you nailed it.
This shows why a lot of companies just don't bother themselves with the US.
Self inflicted wound; many Americans blindly boast of stupid things.
Same nonsense happend when Tesla (an American company) came round.
Everyone started hating it. Tesla is/was(?) more American than many American automobile companies.
Lies, deception, manipulation, ... all propelled by idiots blindly voting by emotion.
@@commenterperson4481 I agree. I watch people time and time again buy another American car and complain because of all the things going wrong with them in less than 5 years. I swear most American manufacturers just bank on people buying their cars just because they're domestic and don't bother to actually make a quality product that can directly compete with imports. While at the same time we have laws in place that make it more difficult for outside manufacturers to sell their cars in the states.
@@jameswilson8907 i agree
Exactly, look at what they did to Isuzu.
@@SonofthePhantom wait, what happened to isuzu?!
17:15 "It's available in Japan, Indonesia, Thailand and the Philippines..." And oh, one more tiny little market you might not have heard of... The flipping EUROPE! We love these little cars. In the previous gen Jimny you can easily swap the engine for a larger Suzuki Swift engine - it's the same family of engines (M13 and M16) and bolts on the original transmission, so it's easy-peasy - and you get 136hp for cheap in this bad boy, which is more than enough in such a small 4x4! Add to that the convertible chassis and you have the coolest little off-roader ever :)
Even though it won't last because of emissions
In France they already stopped selling it
Same in the Middle East, they do sell Jinmy there.
EU legislation pushed it out this year.
"136hp is enough for a 4wd". Yeah nah suzuki is somehow dead but also making cars.
Suzuki is a laundry for the triads.
I had a 2000 Suzuki Vitara 2.1L 4x4 manual transmission and I was amazed at it's ability to go through pretty much anything (mud/snow). I never ever got it stuck and it went through some hairy stuff. It was my daily driver so I didn't try to bury it in a mud hole. Im going to miss getting out during big snow storms and cruising through the country having a blast damn I wish I didn't have to get rid of it lol. Some of my favorite memories in that thing was during heavy snow when no one dared get out (except other 4x4s) and I'd be driving around as if everything was fine.
The Jimny and other offroaders like Pajero are underrated
Indian military used to use this car until 2018
It was called the “Gypsy”here in India and was sold to the public till last years until emissions and Safety Norms killed it
Oh and also it was in use since like the 1980s or smthing
If you know they actually opened and assembled the car in about 60 seconds lol
Ye bhai
It was used extensively by police too
Yo i still have one.
@@bhartishingole854 Don't forget Bolero
I remember when the Samurai fiasco was going on in the 80's. One more reason not to trust major media. Thanks.
Not a fiasco. Consumer Reports did their testing and Suzuki lost their lawsuits against CR.
After seeing this I was kind surprised” Consumer Report, you too? “
@@rsmith02 then why did consumer reports pay out suzuki and print a retraction?
My stepdad had one of those when I was a teenager. That thing was a BEAST! It’s what I used to learn how to drive a standard. I watched it pull a full sized Chevy van and 16ft. trailer out of the mud. Freaking awesome!
Suzuki Jimny: what if the Wrangler was more Reliable and Budget Friendly?
And wholly less capable. At least the new ones. The old ones are pretty damn capable.
@@AustinH7 Why are the new ones less capable?
@@r2in360 that was posted by a jeep owner, guaranteed!
@@AustinH7 if you are talking "stock, unmodified"... I'll take the Jimny!
It would be more likely a Thar now. Instead of current gen Jimny
US: Ban
Japan: Selling it like hot cakes worldwide
Is this logical?
since the launch of the latest jimny, there has been a wait time of 2-5 years in UK, japan, New Zealand and South africa, those people love small 4X4 cars.
Perfectly logical when you factor in American logic (or lack thereof).
@@192lalo Yes but no, its not the government's job to protect international companies from competition from the market. Case in point the fact that after the lawsuit the government did not investigate nor punished Consumer Reports
It's business...
Alexis Rivera but that’s what they did for Harley-Davidson in the 1980s.
"Justification seldom circulates as rapidly and as widely as slander" -Alexander Hamilton
What’s your name man?
@Lord Mahaveer Maldonado
So true
@@jg5001 Dork
@@enclavevideo I cant blame my wife for forcing me to watch it with her tho.
Here in India, the Suzuki Samurai or "Gypsy"has a cult following! We got almost all the variants and had production till 2014. Sadly due to the new emission norms the production has been stopped. That free revving gasoline engine and short wheelbase made an off-road beast! Epic car. Our Miltary still uses it. Its been produced exclusively for them as the Miltary doesn't give a fuck about emission norms lmao😏
My mother (70+) bought the new jimny as soon as it was available, she love the car. She was driving the samurai for over 20 years and thought it was time for a new one. Just at the moment the new jimny was announced.
still loving that “from dad” letter in the intro
What do you think it means?
1 sub before 2021? I just subscribed
Wow that's so messed up. I remember watching the news and telling my aunt to sell it because it was unsafe. I'll never trust consumer reports ever again
More like, you should just trust your instincts and do your own research, rather than relying on magazine reviews.
@@MeNoWorryYouNoWorry I get what you are saying but it's hard to do your own research when a lot of sources that used to be regarded as reliable turn out to be less than honest. Not everyone has the resources to to test drive multiple cars and run them through rigorous testing. That is the problem, I think that companies like this need to be regulated to a high standard and VERY PUBLICLY nailed to the wall with huge fines when they do shady stuff like on this case.
Consumer Reports should have to pay your aunt and everyone else whose Samuri lost value because of their false report.
@@MeNoWorryYouNoWorry well people nowadays do their own research but the "I fucking love science" and "trust the science" group of fat balding soy hate that so now we're in deep shit
I wouldn't recommend judging an entire company based on a single incident from decades ago that was only about a specific type of product. Overall, what they do is very good and helpful to us consumers. Gathering and processing consumer feedback at the national level in order to help people make informed purchasing decisions and to hold companies accountable for their claims, as well as encourage meaningful improvements, is unquestionably a service that is beneficial to everyone. However, considering what they did to the adorable Samurai, I think it's safe to take their reports with a grain of salt and simply compare their results with at least 1 or 2 other sources instead of relying on their word alone.
I had a '96 Suzuki Sierra (Australian version of the Samurai) with a soft-top and the the coil spring suspension they later put under the Jimny. That thing was the most fun car I've ever owned. I recently bought a 1980s 'long-wheelbase' Sierra to make into a unique weapon.
This was the first car roll over I was involved in as a passenger. Mind you, my 'mate' was driving it like a skateboard completing an insane turn off a 45deg embankment. With me hanging in my seatbelt laying in glass, he didn't say are you ok, he said, well...... looks like I'm getting that Ford.....
The new Jimny is genuinely one of few cars I would buy new because it's so adorable. So glad they're sold in Bahrain 🇧🇭.
You live over there eh cool! Just started my channel where I take trucks to the mountains and break em Hoping to make some people laugh.
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I really love mine! I Live in Denmark(Europe)
@@lukegalt8105 hey hey luke guess what, WHO NEEDS A JIMNY RIGHT? haha Americans
Luke Galt We have the Ford Bronco now, which will appeal to the American market more than the Jimny. The Jimny is pretty cool but it’s too small and weak for American consumers’ tastes.
A friend of mine had one he drove it like a rally car never seemed like it was going to tip over. it was unstoppable in the snow
We have raid de himalaya..which is a pretty gnarly rally course..which is till date dominated by the gypsies..that's what it's called here..and the indian army uses them too.
I have mine going 4 years now never had a roll ..... the dam thing is awesome , Americans are just f@$led up like that . Going to buy the new Jimmy next
@@kahlilchin9890 we rolled it when we ramped it to high. It just rolled over onto the top, and was still running for a while. Just got out and tipped it back over lol. Luckily we've got a good roll cage. Got our samari for 800
@@adamr6498 I drive mine stock, runs like a charm.
Don't try fast with a jeep wrangler it feels like driving a bar of soap in the rain
The Initial D reference in this is IMMACULATE.
Love this channel!
Again a big thank you, My Vehicle Ownership class loved this one today and we launched into a great chat about mini 4X4's and other rides of notable reputation but my goodness the CJ was small back then eh?
You didn’t mention that the Samurai became instantly uninsurable in the U.S. after the Consumer Reports hit job.
i have a 1988 i just put tags on it today and its insured?
@@davidervin4853 that was then.
No it wasn’t I have an had many. They wouldn’t be continued to import after the model.
Sorry bro, I bought a 1992 Samuri, had it insured and kept driving it for 17years! Damn I miss that car.
I know someone in CA that has a Samurai and it's perfectly street legal. Where did you read that?
I’ve always been pissed I can’t buy a Jimny, now I know who to be pissed at.
This is why I love living in a third world country, no one can say a car is unsafe since our public transport is unsafe lmao
I just got an ‘86 Jimny! It’s lovely. I’m in Washington state and insurance is exactly the same as it was for my 79 733i. I.e. not much.
I own a 1.9 turbo diesel 1998 suzuki samurai and I was astonished by its off-road capability
Amazing little car
Sounds like a rattly rattle dream off roader
Love your car videos. Dude you review cars brands that no longer exits, but man you make a hella of a good video. Keep up the work.
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10 Best sounding engines
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10 movies for car people
Top 10 cars for movie people😳
Top 10 Bond movie cars.
The last one needs to be done
Movies for car ppl! Always tryina find new ones
Are you guys 10?
I’m in Toronto, this lady who goes to my local Church drives a Mint X90 in manual. She said it was her first ever car she bought back in the 90’s and would never trade it. She gets constantly approached by people and been pulled over by people in G-Wagons with Offers and she’s turned down all of them.
Seeing a car like that being daily driven here in Canada is literally like finding a Unicorn. With all that harsh winters and Salt
(Wagen)
G wagons are stupid cars, stupid.
고등 지능 ODINS trash oh dear looks like we got an upset Landy fanboy here
@@dietznutz1 they are stupid, extremely overpriced
Timesplitter at what point did I say new ones
I had a 1987 Sam. Well built, lightweight, 4x4, fuel efficient and high ground clearance. Kept it outside (in Anchorage) and a battery that never failed to start. Also had a front bumper winch and a conn ferr roof rack. I don’t understand why it was discontinued.
As a fellow chilean posted here, The Samurai is a legendary jeep. My brother had one and he modified the hell out of that car. Even with higher suspension, that Suzuki was save for driving. We deserve another gen of Samurai IMO ... not a Jimny, a friggin' brand new Samurai.
I also wanted to say I love how they did ‘back to the show’ same way as initial d
I want that to be in every episode of UpToSpeed
@@Khiladi_99 me too
It actually took me off guard and I had to rewind haha, I wouldn’t mind it in more videos either!
@@Khiladi_99 me too
I like content that catches these companies in lies. Love to see a series on this.
*cough* like the NRA *cough*
Consumer Reports still does the same kind of thing. If every car was "good" people wouldn't buy their magazine. Fiat is the latest automotive casualty due to lack of Consumer Reports favor. They literally counted buyer's difficulty with pairing Bluetooth on the 500L as a "reliability" issue. They failed to recognize the one-year issues of transmission problems of the 500L (which mysteriously only affected US models with the exact same transmission as European models which seemed unaffected), did not continue into the second year of production and continued to lambast the later year models for perceived reliability issues that had been resolved after the first year.
Many of their judgments are purely "opinion" but they pass them off as fact. For example, on the Fiat 500 summary, it says "this two-door suffers from a choppy ride and a noisy cabin, which detract from the fun." .... Ask any 500 owner, and the RIDE that CR is complaining about is the #1 SOURCE of its fun. It actually communicates road feel to you in a way most modern cars do not, which make it very engaging to drive. Yet Consumer Reports seems to think driving a sofa is more fun - therefore they downrate any vehicle that's not cushy in the way they like.
Even their "death rates per million registered vehicles" is incredibly damaging to the industry. It shows larger vehicles as "safer", yet does not account for who the drivers of these vehicles are. Smaller vehicles like a Ford Fiesta or Chevy Sonic tend to be driven by younger less affluent buyers, who as a whole, are at MUCH higher risk of being involved in accidents. Compared to things like Chevrolet Suburbans, which are driven by people who tend to have many more years of experience driving and are less likely to be "hooning" around. When you look at actual crash safety data, Consumer Reports' claim that giant SUVs are nearly twice as safe dissolved into the lies they are.
@@AlvinBrinson theve been after FCA as a whole for a while. Completely killed the Dart when it was actually a good car.
@@AlvinBrinson How do they escape when any company decides to sue them?
@@varunvarma8183 Cash money. A shame, really.
This is gonna be my first car, buying and adding some offroad mods here in Colombia
Si compra el manual le vendo la miniconsola central, por error la pedí para el automático y no entra ni a palo.
My mom had a sidekick and drove it in the mountains after snowing. It did really well. In those situations you don't want a vehicle with a lot of horsepower.
10:07 "In fact, the Samurai outsold the Wrangler 2 to 1 in 1987"
That's what killed the Samurai. Jeep was not going to let that happen. Roxor, anyone?
The Roxor is not a road legal vehicle, but merely a side by side.
Daimler-Chrysler was "forced" to do a costly redesign the Jeep (widen the track) because of the same crap. Their fender flares are part of the result. I'm sure they had butt-hurt, and were no doubt in support of the anti-Sami propaganda.
@@jmackinjersey1 It's my understanding, that with the proper equipment added, there are states that will issue a road title and plates.
@@norsefalconer , Who is going to add all of the safety equipment, like air bags, crumple zones, ABS/Stability Control etc? It is more than simply adding brake lights and turn signals. These are 4 wheeled vehicles, not 3 wheeled vehicles which fall under the Motorcycle classification and do not need those items.
I know that California makes you Register All vehicles, be they off road only, like dirt bikes and side by sides. But those are not registered for street use, that is a money grab.
@@norsefalconer What? When was this "force" and by whom? Otherwise I call Farce. I know that the Wrangler was widened by Jeep for other reasons, and the fender flares were on there far longer than the wider axles to keep mud, rocks and other debris from hitting not only the other vehicles on the road, but also the driver and passengers. Ask me how I know. Even with the fender flares on, when you have your window rolled down or the doors off, you'll still get a face full of crap when you turn the steering wheel and have the ground speed fast enough.
I boycotted consumer reports after learning about this years ago. Owned an XL-7 and always wished we could still buy the jimmy/samurai in the US
get one here in Puerto Rico and ship it to the mainland US.
Now we will sell more samurai in USA 😊
Oh man, I remember these! When I was in R.O.C class from high school, our mechanic teacher always talked about these bad boys and how amazing and easy they were to work on. I remember he was being a “new” one in about every 3ish weeks, have us students work on it and then sale it lol
I loved this car, I learned driving on this way back in 90s. This was my first four wheel. This is considered as a classic off-road vehicle.
Gypsy still loved in India even after being discontinued from march 2019...
Sahi baat bhai
In Pakistan suzuki potohar (gypsy) discontinued in 2000 after that we have 3rd gen and now we have new 4th gen JDM model jimny in Pakistan.....
Trueeeeeee🔥🔥
India have home grown brand that still makes original Jeeps licensed, we have wranglers too coz jeep is officially available in india , we have home grown wrangler competition too . Soon, SUZUKI will start the biggest production facility for the gimny thats in india. Suzuki is planning a lwb version specifically for india and then might export it to other countries as well. So , soon Pakistan might start getting cheaper gimnies coz of the production facility in india.
Bhai har bollywood movie ma police ka pas hota ha 2nd gen jimny
When I started watching this video... My 1st thought was... damnnn that's Maruti-Suzuki Gypsy...
We Indians admire & love that car... Infact the Indian Military used to use this car...
It's rare to find 1 now in India though...
I had a 1987 Suzuki Samurai it was such a cool vehicle. Drove it across the desert in Nevada, I mean on dirt roads from Jean, NV to Pahrump, NV. Dirt roads the whole with 4 people in the car. It never left me stranded, easy to push start, easy to work on and never got stuck. Only traded it in after a Suzuki dealership messed with the carb and never ran right after that. It was awesome when the boys from Roadkill put a Mopar V8 in one and hauled ass in it.
This is one of my bucket list vehicles. I absolutely LOVE samurais. I got to drive one years ago in northern CA. It’s size made it capable of going places pretty much nothing but side by sides could go.
You forgot to mention that it’s also available in Europe. So pretty much everywhere else, except the US :)
They banned it.
@@professorofficer9609 no: 3rd gen it's still in Suzuki's catalogue.
Second gen models has been called Santana in Italy until the 90s and then Samurai
Ai dreptate, d-asta nu prea isi bat capu companii mari cu americanii
@@professorofficer9609 Not banned really, it has to with manufacturer CO2 limits.
Hughh those new Jimnys are looking so good. I live in Canada and most of the Suzuki off-roaders legacy is slowly falling into rust, or pieces or both at the same time. Good condition Suzuki 4x4s are now a rarity
In india it was called the” king gypsy “
Mostly sold as fleet vehicle
The most iconic indian police car ❤️
It was even sold to the army ❤️
They shouldn’t have made the samurai out of business luckily i live in India
Oh yeah
my cousin has it, it's all beaten up and still runs like hell but takes too much gas.
Prashant Kerung toooo much gas, true that
@@tormentor6737 SJ30/SJ40 or second gen jimny from 1981. From the video American version looks smaller because a standard gypsy king has rear passenger capacity of of four.
In Wikipedia The Indian built SJ-410 has only ever been available in a long-wheelbase version. The Gypsy remains in production for the Indian Subcontinent market. The version still produced in India by Maruti Suzuki is the Maruti Gypsy King, using the sixteen valve, 80 hp (60 kW) 1.3 liter G13 engine. The Gypsy King has proved popular with the Indian armed forces and police units.
My daily is a gypsy too. Terrible to drive. Bad economy. But still so much fun. Can't wait for the (new) jimny to reach india
My dad bought a new grand vitara base model (rear wheel drive only, open diff) in 2010 and now it has 90k miles on it with not a single problem!
I changed the automatic transmission fluid at 80k, the diff fluid just now, and the oil every 3k-5k miles. I wish my dad got it as a manual but he despises them. Now I got a used rebuilt title 2017 Focus ST with 18k miles in May and my dad had the audacity to tell me I'll want to sell it in just 2 weeks cause I'll grow to hate manual. Thank you for listening to my rant and thank you Donut for making a video about Suzuki, they are criminally underrated.
I remember returning from my first deployment on Sept of 1986. One of my div mates from Iowa purchased a Samuri the day we arrived in Norfolk. We deployed again exactly one year later, in Sept of 87. That Samuri had traveled over 100k miles in that time with multiple trips to Ohio and Iowa. I think that little beast spent more time with the engine running than it did parked. Thats saying something considering how much time we spent at sea in that year.
Someone: "JD Power is rigged, that's why Consumer Reports is better, they never lie".
CR: (Sweats nervously).
same thing is going to haooen to huawei tick tok and many others overseas company
@@blackpinkoffical yeah... Huawei isn't owned by the "former" head of China's intelligence agency or anything...
@@blackpinkoffical I can't tell if your comment is in favor of or against those companies or if overseas is including CR. No comment on their reputation, but they are based out of New York.
Fun Fact:
The 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon got 1 Star at ANCAP and EURONCAP while the Jimny got 3 stars. And then the wrangler rolled over in the two crash test made by the IIHS. But CR says no word about it. And curiously CR did all this just a year later the Samurai outsell the wrangler 2 to 1... what a curious thing?
sounds like jeep/american manufacturers lobbyism
That's what they can do to car manufacturers. Imagine what they could do to green energy companies when they get to become big enough to outsell fossil fuels. Capitalism at it's finest.
@@s_ame1135 not capitalism, it's corporatism
Sounds like big corporate favoritism.
Amazing! This is so true !
I've been some really out of the way places in a samurai. Very capable vehicle, with decent tires, it went where you pointed it, the highest compliment I can give an off road vehicle.
I remember the whole thing with Consumer Reports, and a good number of people knew they were lying. The only Suzuki I personally have experience with was a Swift GTi, which was a blast to drive, but, not the most reliable vehicle.
I knew someone in high school that one with aftermarket suspension wheels and tires that was a offroad beast. It truly was underrated as a great off roader.
did we watch the same video?
I wonder which automotive company could have benefited from this amazing competitor being off the market🤔
Ahmed Is King 🗣 Jeeeeeeeeeeeppppppp
Either Jeep or GM for sure
Ahhh the greatness of capitalism
The samurai is a jeep killer.
Luke's workout exactly. They were selling twice as much when they came out
Just to correct you from down under in Kiwi land. In New Zealand we did and do get the Jiminy and it was road legal the farm worker was a off-road only untility (pick up). We also got the Vitara and escudo the later only as a grey import. All 3 have found there way into the halls of off-road greatness down here.
I just restored the 1995 father's samurai, it was a pain but now we have such a new car for climbing those nightmares roads and transport coffee.
Greetings from Colombia!
Imagine being so stuck up about your “unbeatable” 4x4 jeep that you put a sign up pretty much begging someone with a more capable offroader to beat the record... and having the sign being brought down by a dude with a smaller engine and smaller car that had design cues taken from the exact same company. Im a MOPAR guy at heart, but i do enjoy cheering for the underdog
Lol underdog? They set that record with a stock Jeep and it was beat by a highly modified Samuri that was running a supercharged 4 cylinder under the hood. The Jeep was the underdog
somethingtough they still broke the record. And they are still an underdog cuz suzuki isnt all that popular in the name of cars here in the states. I can count the amount of times ive seen a suzuki car on one hand. And im pretty sure that theres been modified jeeps that have driven up the pass, theres no way there hasnt been
Back in 1989 Jeep was still an AMC company. Mopar purchased them in 1990. IMHO one of the biggest POS 4x4's was the Bronco II.
@@somethingtough Are you on drugs? The "stock Jeep" you are talking about was a brand new, top of the range Rubicon Unlimited "factory prepared" for offroad in oxygen-deprived high altitude environments; it also had winches and special tyres. The team running the Jeeps (there were 2 of them) had many support vehicles and a full team of Jeep mechanics with them. The drivers were part of a professional offroad racing team from Germany.
Did I mention the whole stint was sponsored, planned and conceived by Jeep?
The suzuki was a 1986 model with a supercharger off a Mercedes C class Kompressor (DIY fitted, there is no kit for such a conversion), lifted suspension and some tyres, prepared and driven by 2 amateur mechanics and offroad drivers, with no support vehicles, no external sponsorships and financing.
So who is the underdog here?
@@thudtheace I never had a Bronco II, but remember when they came out. Even then I did not like them. They seemed to be a cheap plastic copy of the original (1965-1977), the vehicle nich they were meant to recapture. IMO, the biggest problem is Ford left out what made the original desirable. In hindsight the B2 should have been designed with a removable top and an interior that you would not fear getting rained on. That might have made the desirable even today. As is now, unlike 40 year old CJs, no one cares about saving them or rebuilding them.
Didn't they do this same shit in the 90s to the Isuzu Rodeo? idk if that roll-testing was legit or not but it's possible they sabotaged that as well.
I would love to see an up to speed on the isuzu rodeo and trooper
The outriggers they fitted to it are what made it unstable.
@@BAYBOSSMAN the isuzu trooper with was a very good offroad vehicle for it's price. Having a 4 link rear and a good torque on demand system. I am on my second trooper and it makes it most places jeeps can't. It has a more dramatic story of it's fate then the samurai
Surely, that what happens.
Weren't the old Nissan Pathfinder, Honda Passport, and Isuzu Rodeo the same vehicle?
I've won a scale car of the 4th gen Jimny when they launched it here back in 2019! That new gen looks really sharp!
This was heart breaking to watch. I'm looking to buy one today hopefully it all checks out. And it did so now I'm a proud owner of 88 Sami.. Good video by the way thanks 🍩 Donut.
2 Samurai (or other tiny off roader) would make a real nice season of Hi-Low
YESSSS
One gets ls-swapped the other gets a rotary
@@bettyspaghetti678 a rotary would be horrendous off-road. Pretty much no low end torque
I like this idea a lot
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They have “Jeep eater” kits for the Samurai that make them absolute units
Fun story: the first jeep was based on a compact truck built by a company called American Bantam. It was optioned by the US Army Quartermaster Corps for modification as a light transport carrier, and then they sent the plans to over a hundred car companies. Ford and Willys overland were the only ones that built one to compete for the contract. Henry Ford was basically trying to steal the truck and take over production for the war effort, and Ford was actually the company that invented the stamped slotted grill that became symbolic of jeeps. Willys was the third or fourth company to build a jeep, even checker, the cab company, put together three crate jeeps from bantam when bantam contracted with them to expand production capacity. Bantam was relegated to building jeep trailers after the army gave away their plans, willys overland died off when they were bought out by Kaiser after a decade of legal battle with bantam about the patents for the jeep, kaiser jeep died when chrysler bought them, and now it's all Fiat. Jeep is a lie.
I’m tired of seeing so many goddamn keeps so I’d like to see a Suzuki destroy a Jeep
고등 지능 ODINS trash TH-cam it lol
I knew a guy who was a mechanic that had one he turned into an absolute offroad beast. He fitted a V8 into it somehow. It was crazy
@@DaveCM I fit a v8 (92 mustang 5.0L) into a 94 miata. THAT was crazy.
Proud owner of a 2006 Grand Vitara Luxury trim rwd with active subwoofer . Fun car handles amazing on sudden turns and drifts like a true 50/50 balanced truck . 160,000 miles n no problems or part changes other than fluids n tires n brakes
I remember from my childhood my dads friend and my dad owned a bunch of samurais. They would lift them and put big mud tires on them then they would go through any mud hole. They were amazing for offroad.
They pulled the same scrap with the Corvair with "unsafe at any speed"
Exactly the vw had the same rear end design
Even by 65 the covair had a fixed the problem vw still had the same rear end
That book led to lots of safety features we take fro granted.
That was Ralph Nader's crusade and they never recovered from it!!
@@ronalddaub7965 the new VW's have a double jointed rear suspension marginally better than a beetles.
like at 10mph it can be unsafe
lol, what did they do?
hit it with a train? so BS
The Record was made in Chile “ojos del salado” is an amazing volcano. My first car ever was a Samurai II, as It was labeled here the 98’ model, then 99 we got the 3rd gen Jimny wich sold largely over our country, people love it because it’s tough and an excellent 4x4 especially for Chile that has a lot of high mountains , deserts and rough terrains, incredible vehicle all the way!!💪🏽💪🏽
The record is hold by a Unimog
Era el sanurai( o carcaza modifiada entera) ahora es unimog
Wena loco
thank you thank you thank you for this
i saw the raw footage of the cr test drives years ago and have been yammering about it ever since... such a shame and such a crime and so thoroughly under reported...
such stupendous little beasts... my first one (of four) was my fave vehicle ever
Y'all do awesome work folks. 🤙I enjoyed this vid.
Whenever I would pass by a Suzuki dealership in Japan I would stop and admire the Jimny. That thing rocks.
There's loads of Jimnys on the road here in Australia. Bonza little cars mate.
My buddy had an 86 samurai with a 3 inch lift and some other work done to it, and that little thing would go anywhere. As far as rolling it over- you had to actually try to get it to flip, and we did. If you had 4 guys with you you could also stand it back up and keep ok driving 😁
Luckyyyy
I want one 😫
Yeah, I see them in Britain occasionally
Yeah i always see them now in aussie they are cute little 4wds
Every one I know who have one of these love them, super capable off road, cheap to run and mentain and very reliable, I want one too but I can't afford a new one and older ones even from the 90's are still very expensive because they hold their value really well
Here in India samurai was sold in the name Gypsy and the vehicle was extensively used by the Indian military for nearly 25 years until it stopped production in 2010.
Maruti Suzuki is the company name here in India formed by the collaboration between the Indian and japanese companies in 1981. Since then for the past 40 years Suzuki is the most successful and common car brand in India. If you're on a street in India most of them say 7/10 cars will be a suzuki.
James make a D-list of the most tuned cars in history
Honda civic, supra, evo, integra, rx-7, datsun, and miata. Their, did it!
@@sebastianherpst449 350z
Or just watch the first fast and the furious.
My bad
Miata, Subaru’s, Evos, gtrs, civics, Z, s chassis, Supra, rx7
The Suzuki jimny has officially became one of my favourite cars
the jimny is crazy popular in italy, i myself got an old samurai but all around my house you can spot countless 3rd and 4th gen Jimny (mostly driven by hunters)
I love my 87 samurai. I had it since i was 16. Ran when parked but not the case. Engine was seized. Put a 1.6 8v in it from a geo tracker. *ITS A BEAST* Go anywhere any time i have the old school buckshot bias oly tires on it. Never been stuck since i had these tires on it.
I used to have a Suzuki SX4 loved the lil thing wish Suzi was still selling cars in the U.S.
Even the US had an SX4?!
I’m still rocking the ‘07 SX4 in NYC!
@@NaamanStory dayum anyway suzuki launched the ciaz as a successor it's a hella improvement
the record was taken by two UNIMOGS earlier this year btw, and we have lot of samurai down here in Chile, oh and we've got the new jimny too
Somos el mejor país de Chile 😂😂😂
This guy wheels
La cago... F por el samuca que hizo el récord... Viva Chile... Y vivan los samurais
German and Japanese Engineering, wait thats not new stuff.
Sometimes things never changes.
I only speak from the technical side.
Acá en Argentina tenemos el Jimny también. Al doble de precio, pero lo tenemos jaja
I really wish they'd bring the Jimney Sierra to the US! I think it would be a huge seller. Most adults now were teens when the original Samurai was out, and many have forgotten the whole rollover debacle (CR also made similar accusations about the Bronco II).
I drive this car for years and i still have one. in my country they named it "katana". I never had serious problem with anything, except the small size and engine size. But still a fun car. And a 65 hp on a 700kg car is no joke.