I'm so happy to see a reaction video to this record that's very very important to me growing as a musician and realizing there's no boundaries for creativity in sonic art. Thank you!
Same, my childhood friend had a room straight from the 70s (this was 2008), 60s rock posters, a combo stereo/record player and some old speakers, original press records from his parents, christmas lights and one of those infinity mirrors from the 70s. We smoked weed out of a weird homemade water pipe and my mind expanded beyond anything I could have ever imagined. I only listened to metal and alternative rock before that, and let's just say... that was the end of that. I was into prog, jazz, experimental music, anything technical I could get my hands on. We wrote crazy guitar riffs the next day and shredded for hours, I still remember how bad my hands hurt but I was so inspired. Those were the days.
I met the trombone player Bruce Fowler on the way in to the Roxy Movie premier in Los Angeles and got to ask a question at the discussion after the screening... Great experience!!!
The intriguing thing about this is when you hear people being impressed by how tight certain (prog rock) groups are, I have to say "Hold my beer" and put on the Roxy album. Then you realise that this was done literally 50 years ago. To me, that's the impressive bit.
Also, the best live Fender Rhodes electric piano solo of ALL TIME! George Duke played the thing on "Don't You Ever Wash?" with enough soul to fill an oil tanker AND an airplane hangar.
Agreed, and it's crazy how slept on it is. It's so fucking mindblowing especially if you know anything about music. It's not wankery or over practiced non-sense. In that moment GD went so hard and Frank let him fly.
Yes Jim, Frank wrote everything out for all the musicians except his guitar solo and perhaps other’s solos. It’s been released as a wonderful blu-ray movie called Roxy The Movie and watching them perform this amazing music is such a treat. Just order it.
@@antidote7 Explain Allan Holdsworth leaving UK. He hated being in that band because he was told to play the same solos on the record. That’s not improvisation.
@@mrmusic248 There's only a few musicians I find their music more technically complicated, Tigran Hamasyan, The Dillinger Escape Plan and Palm. I'd suggest checking them out 100%. They're all completely different genres but bring in a really amazing layer of complexity in their own days, Tigran plays piano like a tech metal guitarist, DEP is the epitome of math rock/metal, and Palm is the indie rock version of the beach boys on PCP and smoking polyrythms.
I'm as close to a completist as it gets, well over 100 official Zappa titles either in possession or I've streamed. This is my favorite album side. I've also heard at least 10 performances of this live, unedited, and every performance is this good. Nothing gets better than this.
Frank is an acquired taste. I dismissed him as a young man so like many others, it was not until I eased into middle age and beyond that I rediscovered his music. Some I love, some not so much, but I have not heard it all. This side of vinyl was awesome and that trombone made it all worthwhile. Thanks Jim and Happy Birthday.
Of the 60 some odd Zappa albums I have, this one and this side in particular ranks up there with the best on my list. With both Ralph Humphrey and Chester Thompson on drums and Ruth on perc. George Duke on kybds,, musicianship was at the highest level. Also, to answer a pondering you had, to my knowledge back then, every note, every transition was memorized. I never saw any sheet music on stage until the last concerts with the brass section in 1988.
Zappa would rehearse over 100 songs each tour. They would do about 20 a night and many times the band members wouldn't get the list until 30 minutes before the concert started. Saw Frank in Jan '74. They played some of this albums music and the music of One Size Fits All. Frank, NMB, Duke, Humphrey, Chester Thompson, Bruce, Walt, Tom Fowler, and Ruth.
On December 10th, 2013 I had the pleasure of hearing Dweezil and co. perform this album in its entirety in the Roxy in LA. What a fucking gig that was.
I was fortunate to have found Frank in my teens in 1975 he was not always popular with friends who didn’t understand him but I knew how talented he and his band were. I regrettably did not see them live but have friends who did.. Frank was a musical genius who sadly passed away way too soon….
The musicians that were on stage for the Roxy concert were: FZ- guitar, vocals Napoleon Murphy Brock - tenor sax, flute, vocals George Duke - keyboards, vocals Bruce Fowler - trombone Ruth Underwood - percussion Tom Fowler - bass Ralph Humphrey - drums Chester Thompson -drums All the other musicians credited were from elsewhere
His Catalog of Music is SO BIG, That if you Binge Listened the music playing might outlive one ??? It’s THAT BIG !!! AND EACH PERFORMANCE OF A PIECE OF MUSIC CAN AND WILL GET MODIFIED ON THE SPOT AT ANY TIME (AFTER ALL HE IS FREAKING FRANK ZAPPA !!)
It was 40 years ago I first heard this. I don't think I appreciated all the depths then. Not my favourite musician of all time, but the most gifted ever I think.
You have to truly appreciate the sound Zappa always managed capture in the live recordings. People would be amazed by how much of the material that they thought was done in the studio was actually performed live on stage, with subsequent overdubs.
What a ride! What a band! So solid. And yes, all the Fowlers are brothers. I’ve seen film of this show(pretty sure) and both drummers are playing at the same time so, yeah lots of folks on stage but so tight!
Thank you Andrew and thank you Jim. I came across this album some 50 years ago as my first encounter with Franks music. I immediately became stuck with Franks music, and have been ever since. Jim - just great sharing this experience with you!!
As others may have said you should really try to watch the DVD "Roxy, The Movie", it's the live video of these performances being recorded. Watching them play these tracks live is mind blowing!
Good choice of live Zappa, one of the best. George Duke who was in this band said they rehearsed for 6 hours a day, 6 days a week for 6 weeks before going on tour. They were rehearsed to within an inch of their lives, in dozens of songs, which they'd have to be able to play at the drop of a hat. Insane musicianship. My personal favourite is side 2 of You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore vol 2. It's lot of the same tracks as on this album but played faster and even more insanely, if you can believe it.
Happy birthweek, Jim! Frank is one of the few composers with whom I've conversed, and always love hearing from his vast storehouse, so thanks and cheers! Wow, that was even better than expected. Great to see Don Preston in the lineup. Brilliant all!
The drumsolo thing is a ”drum battle” between chester and Ralph. Don Preston, Walt Fowler and Jeff Simmons is on the ”Elsewhere” recordings. There is also some overdubs, additional vocals and more.
"only two sides" ... I know! (but fair do's, Jim and I did agree this. After all choosing a complete double and a triple as your "two albums" would be a little greedy!) But maybe if enough people nudge Jim he might decide to indulge us with a couple of the other tracks. After all, who doesn't like a little "Penguin in Bondage"....?
First time i saw FZ live was his Roxy Elsewhere tour in 1974 at MSU. Amazing it was, so i was sold and four more FZ concerts in the years that followed. Tks Jim, happy b-day!
The video of this concert is out and available. I cannot recommend it highly enough. Also extras include studion rehearsals with the backup singers. You'll see how Frank conducts the band for those little unexpected interjections that sound rehearsed but were instead directed live.
Great reaction Jim this is one of my favourite Zappa albums. I once read an article by Frank where he said he would record multiple nights of a show then edit the best bits from each night for the album. Having said that I saw his final tour and the band was incredible he was as much a conductor as a lead guitarist. There is a recording of the Roxy show on TH-cam 😁
Brilliant. some of this would fit in well with a Tex Avery cartoon. I wonder if Frank was a fan of Carl Stalling? The "Duckman" animated cartoon (mad stuff!) used Zappa music, and Frank once starred in a Powdered Toast Man" as the Pope. So I think it's fair to say he liked cartoons and was probably familiar with Tex's work and the music that accompanied it.
It was a very specific request from a member of the channel. As a perk, they get to choose certain amount of music, and here we had 2 sides from this double, and 2 sides from an ELP live double too. I’ll probably get to doing the rest at a later date.
Speaking of percussions: when we saw Klaus Doldinger's Passport live in 2017 he had a drummer plus 2 !! percussionists - awesome... it was really hard that we had to sit😊
Saw King Crimson a couple years ago and they had three full trap sets across the stage plus sundry other percussion. Fripp even played one of the trap sets a bit.
@@pbwbrian53 saw them also with this line up incl Gavin Harrison of Porcupine Tree. But why does this beautiful music have to be played so loud ? 😞 less is more as I experienced lately. Having to wear earplugs during most of rock/prog or Metal concerts I didn't need those for the great music of german band RPWL and last night for Mostly Autumn. Are most of the soundmixers so deaf?
OVER ALL THESE YEARS THE ONE SONG FRANK SAID HIS BAND ALMOST GOT RIGHT: “SHIP ARRIVING TO LATE TO SAVE A DROWNING WITCH”. FROM THE ALBUM OF THE SAME TITLE. IF EVER YOU ARE HERE IN THE STATES, DROP BYE !! I’ll play you ANYTHING !! I OWN ALL THE VINYL, EVEN THE NEW 45 rpm VINYL BEING PRESSED IN GERMANY 👍❤️ WOW
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I'm so happy to see a reaction video to this record that's very very important to me growing as a musician and realizing there's no boundaries for creativity in sonic art. Thank you!
The first Zappa album i ever heard by side three i was a lifelong fan
Same, my childhood friend had a room straight from the 70s (this was 2008), 60s rock posters, a combo stereo/record player and some old speakers, original press records from his parents, christmas lights and one of those infinity mirrors from the 70s. We smoked weed out of a weird homemade water pipe and my mind expanded beyond anything I could have ever imagined. I only listened to metal and alternative rock before that, and let's just say... that was the end of that. I was into prog, jazz, experimental music, anything technical I could get my hands on. We wrote crazy guitar riffs the next day and shredded for hours, I still remember how bad my hands hurt but I was so inspired. Those were the days.
Absolutely amazing. I bought that LP when it first came out and wish I still had it.
I met the trombone player Bruce Fowler on the way in to the Roxy Movie premier in Los Angeles and got to ask a question at the discussion after the screening... Great experience!!!
The intriguing thing about this is when you hear people being impressed by how tight certain (prog rock) groups are, I have to say "Hold my beer" and put on the Roxy album. Then you realise that this was done literally 50 years ago. To me, that's the impressive bit.
I've said it before and I['ll say it again - best musicians to ever grace a stage. Glad you like this Jim!
I loved your reaction,...I had the same amazement in 1975, laying on the floor with headphones ....this whole album.
Also, the best live Fender Rhodes electric piano solo of ALL TIME! George Duke played the thing on "Don't You Ever Wash?" with enough soul to fill an oil tanker AND an airplane hangar.
Agreed, and it's crazy how slept on it is. It's so fucking mindblowing especially if you know anything about music. It's not wankery or over practiced non-sense. In that moment GD went so hard and Frank let him fly.
Yes Jim, Frank wrote everything out for all the musicians except his guitar solo and perhaps other’s solos. It’s been released as a wonderful blu-ray movie called Roxy The Movie and watching them perform this amazing music is such a treat. Just order it.
Solos on any instrument are improvised.
@@antidote7 Explain Allan Holdsworth leaving UK. He hated being in that band because he was told to play the same solos on the record. That’s not improvisation.
@@shyshift I'm speaking about solos taken on the Roxy album. Frank allowed people to take solos, he loved it.
@@antidote7 That’s why I said perhaps.
@@shyshift Yup, and I just elaborated on it to state it was definitive.
Music doesn't get better than this.
saturninebear: Nor does it get any more complicated.
@@mrmusic248 There's only a few musicians I find their music more technically complicated, Tigran Hamasyan, The Dillinger Escape Plan and Palm. I'd suggest checking them out 100%. They're all completely different genres but bring in a really amazing layer of complexity in their own days, Tigran plays piano like a tech metal guitarist, DEP is the epitome of math rock/metal, and Palm is the indie rock version of the beach boys on PCP and smoking polyrythms.
I'm as close to a completist as it gets, well over 100 official Zappa titles either in possession or I've streamed.
This is my favorite album side. I've also heard at least 10 performances of this live, unedited, and every performance is this good. Nothing gets better than this.
His best era and line-up IMO.. Great choice btw
This exact album got me hooked for life some 35 years ago. Still mucho enjoyo.
This in my opinion is the best mothers line up definitely the most talented.
Frank is an acquired taste. I dismissed him as a young man so like many others, it was not until I eased into middle age and beyond that I rediscovered his music. Some I love, some not so much, but I have not heard it all. This side of vinyl was awesome and that trombone made it all worthwhile. Thanks Jim and Happy Birthday.
Thank you! This was the first LP of FZ I listened to - back then - before I listened to all of them.
best live performance EVER
Of the 60 some odd Zappa albums I have, this one and this side in particular ranks up there with the best on my list. With both Ralph Humphrey and Chester Thompson on drums and Ruth on perc. George Duke on kybds,, musicianship was at the highest level. Also, to answer a pondering you had, to my knowledge back then, every note, every transition was memorized. I never saw any sheet music on stage until the last concerts with the brass section in 1988.
Peak Zappa! It doesn't get any better than this. Great request by Andrew!
So good!
Zappa would rehearse over 100 songs each tour. They would do about 20 a night and many times the band members wouldn't get the list until 30 minutes before the concert started. Saw Frank in Jan '74. They played some of this albums music and the music of One Size Fits All. Frank, NMB, Duke, Humphrey, Chester Thompson, Bruce, Walt, Tom Fowler, and Ruth.
On December 10th, 2013 I had the pleasure of hearing Dweezil and co. perform this album in its entirety in the Roxy in LA. What a fucking gig that was.
I'm pretty sure Napoleon Murphy Brock played a large part in that night.
I was fortunate to have found Frank in my teens in 1975 he was not always popular with friends who didn’t understand him but I knew how talented he and his band were. I regrettably did not see them live but have friends who did.. Frank was a musical genius who sadly passed away way too soon….
Well well well, that was nice.
The musicians had to have everything memorized. That’s what makes it all that much more unbelievable.
I've got this record... lots of great music and lots of fun... calling people on stage to dance😂😂😂
Excited to join you on this ride! Fantastic album!
Yay!
The musicians that were on stage for the Roxy concert were:
FZ- guitar, vocals
Napoleon Murphy Brock - tenor sax, flute, vocals
George Duke - keyboards, vocals
Bruce Fowler - trombone
Ruth Underwood - percussion
Tom Fowler - bass
Ralph Humphrey - drums
Chester Thompson -drums
All the other musicians credited were from elsewhere
His Catalog of Music is SO BIG, That if you Binge Listened the music playing might outlive one ???
It’s THAT BIG !!! AND EACH PERFORMANCE OF A PIECE OF MUSIC CAN AND WILL GET MODIFIED ON THE SPOT AT ANY TIME (AFTER ALL HE IS FREAKING FRANK ZAPPA !!)
My fav Zappa album!
This album was the one that got me hocked =)
...Happy Birthday!
Thanks!
probably my favorite album
Should have won a grammy,..insane quality for live recording at a night club
It was 40 years ago I first heard this. I don't think I appreciated all the depths then.
Not my favourite musician of all time, but the most gifted ever I think.
Happy Birthday Jim for tomorrow! This gig is on DVD and probably TH-cam..superb. Chester Thompson included who went on to play drums with Genesis.
You have to truly appreciate the sound Zappa always managed capture in the live recordings. People would be amazed by how much of the material that they thought was done in the studio was actually performed live on stage, with subsequent overdubs.
WATCH “ROXY, THE MOVIE”. !!! You Get to SEE them LIVE PLAYING THAT ALBUM !!!
NO BULLSHIT
Happy birthday Jim. You share your birthday with my son.
Happy birthday to him!
What a ride! What a band! So solid. And yes, all the Fowlers are brothers. I’ve seen film of this show(pretty sure) and both drummers are playing at the same time so, yeah lots of folks on stage but so tight!
Thank you Andrew and thank you Jim. I came across this album some 50 years ago as my first encounter with Franks music. I immediately became stuck with Franks music, and have been ever since. Jim - just great sharing this experience with you!!
As others may have said you should really try to watch the DVD "Roxy, The Movie", it's the live video of these performances being recorded. Watching them play these tracks live is mind blowing!
Good choice of live Zappa, one of the best.
George Duke who was in this band said they rehearsed for 6 hours a day, 6 days a week for 6 weeks before going on tour. They were rehearsed to within an inch of their lives, in dozens of songs, which they'd have to be able to play at the drop of a hat. Insane musicianship.
My personal favourite is side 2 of You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore vol 2. It's lot of the same tracks as on this album but played faster and even more insanely, if you can believe it.
9:50, yup, that’s Ruth!
One of my favourite album
Happy birthweek, Jim!
Frank is one of the few composers with whom I've conversed, and always love hearing from his vast storehouse, so thanks and cheers!
Wow, that was even better than expected. Great to see Don Preston in the lineup. Brilliant all!
Happy Birthday Jim!
The drumsolo thing is a ”drum battle” between chester and Ralph. Don Preston, Walt Fowler and Jeff Simmons is on the ”Elsewhere” recordings. There is also some overdubs, additional vocals and more.
Hi Jim! An excellent LP! We only get two sides?? :(... But Hooray! FZ!! :) Thanks Andrew!
"only two sides" ... I know! (but fair do's, Jim and I did agree this. After all choosing a complete double and a triple as your "two albums" would be a little greedy!) But maybe if enough people nudge Jim he might decide to indulge us with a couple of the other tracks. After all, who doesn't like a little "Penguin in Bondage"....?
First time i saw FZ live was his Roxy Elsewhere tour in 1974 at MSU. Amazing it was, so i was sold and four more FZ concerts in the years that followed. Tks Jim, happy b-day!
Jim, Happy almost birthday ! ☕☕🗽🗽🎼🎼✨✨
Thank you sir!
Exceptional album.
Grinning from ear to ear here, Jim. Thank you! One of the best sides of vinyl ever.
Oh and nice timing! 50 years, eh? Passes in a flash. Happy birthday for tomorrow, Jim!
Happy birthday one day early! You have the same birthday as Dick VanDyke who is gonna be 98 tomorrow.
I react the same way when I put zappa on...my family think I'm nuts 🎸
Happy birthday eve! What a great way to celebrate.
Thanks!
Needed some Zappa…
Chester Thompson played drums with and for Genesis alongside Phil Collins.
The video of this concert is out and available. I cannot recommend it highly enough. Also extras include studion rehearsals with the backup singers. You'll see how Frank conducts the band for those little unexpected interjections that sound rehearsed but were instead directed live.
Great album 😊
Great reaction Jim this is one of my favourite Zappa albums. I once read an article by Frank where he said he would record multiple nights of a show then edit the best bits from each night for the album. Having said that I saw his final tour and the band was incredible he was as much a conductor as a lead guitarist. There is a recording of the Roxy show on TH-cam 😁
amazingly clean shit
There is a Roxy video Box =)
11:15, that’s a motif Frank used a lot.
Hard to believe, that someone composes this - I think the Mothers were the masters of improvisation😮
Only solos are improvised. Frank composed all of this.
Most parts are written, then the guys practice and memorize the music,...then they play it it all back from memory..
The band is tight
Most of the tracks on this LP don't have Studio Versions.
Haha! Interesting 🧐
🎉
Brilliant. some of this would fit in well with a Tex Avery cartoon. I wonder if Frank was a fan of Carl Stalling? The "Duckman" animated cartoon (mad stuff!) used Zappa music, and Frank once starred in a Powdered Toast Man" as the Pope. So I think it's fair to say he liked cartoons and was probably familiar with Tex's work and the music that accompanied it.
And sooo... another discovers real music.
I guess I’m missing something, but why no side one?
It was a very specific request from a member of the channel. As a perk, they get to choose certain amount of music, and here we had 2 sides from this double, and 2 sides from an ELP live double too. I’ll probably get to doing the rest at a later date.
Speaking of percussions: when we saw Klaus Doldinger's Passport live in 2017 he had a drummer plus 2 !! percussionists - awesome... it was really hard that we had to sit😊
Saw King Crimson a couple years ago and they had three full trap sets across the stage plus sundry other percussion. Fripp even played one of the trap sets a bit.
@@pbwbrian53 saw them also with this line up incl Gavin Harrison of Porcupine Tree. But why does this beautiful music have to be played so loud ? 😞 less is more as I experienced lately. Having to wear earplugs during most of rock/prog or Metal concerts I didn't need those for the great music of german band RPWL and last night for Mostly Autumn. Are most of the soundmixers so deaf?
Mostly live with overdubs like FZ's guitar and Napi harmonizing with himself.
Nice to have the actual shows now if only for comparison
Very little if any sheet music just very very very very very very well rehearsed
Very!
THREE BROTHER THE FOWLERS
OVER ALL THESE YEARS THE ONE SONG FRANK SAID HIS BAND ALMOST GOT RIGHT: “SHIP ARRIVING TO LATE TO SAVE A DROWNING WITCH”. FROM THE ALBUM OF THE SAME TITLE.
IF EVER YOU ARE HERE IN THE STATES, DROP BYE !!
I’ll play you ANYTHING !!
I OWN ALL THE VINYL, EVEN THE NEW 45 rpm VINYL BEING PRESSED IN GERMANY 👍❤️
WOW
Similar Feel - “IN NEW YORK”
Hey Jim, try The Grand Wazoo.
An Ehidna is an Australian marsupial
Oops .. spelling error .. echidna
Palmdale is a scorched Moonscape…
Avoided.
You can't Rehearse this stuff......this is God Given Talent out the Box.
Rehearsals are Losers.
Where's side 1?
Jim Do you know Herb Albert the famous trumpet player?
Er.... nope!
Do you know Germany's most famous trumpet Player, Till Brönner? Just saw him live on Saturday😊
@@rudolfbecker4313 th-cam.com/video/Js_ljwaQNVA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=LucilleGreen
Seen him last year in Red Bank NJ he's still hanging on. lol
@@JimNewstead th-cam.com/video/75R0Mor1keM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=LucilleGreen
He probably grew up listening to Herb Albert who was big in the 70's.
where is Pink floyd?
I think you meant to say, ‘ELP’?
Lol! Yes... oops!
@@JimNewstead 😄
Sorry Jim,
I really really don’t like Frank Zappa so no comments from me this time.
See you next time.
Why not?
@@justsomejusstsome8994 his voice makes me feel uncomfortable; I’m highly sensitive.
Hi Will, this is my fourth try to reply - the other ones are ... lost😮 I suggest Email, but don't put my adress yet, hoping the message "survives"😢 Good night😊Rudi
@@rudolfbecker4313 I have the same problem. My answers get deleted
@@rudolfbecker4313 I informed Jim.