If these people can get around 700 even after 15 years without using them, then they could get almost full score if they were in high school for sure. It is certainly misleading using this score to represent Chinese students.
i forget them before and then when doing them i just randomly remembers them and do the questions and when the teacher gives the paper back and asks me to explain to the class i don’t remember anything i wrote lol
I think this is because maybe they study almost everyday? I think their childhood filled with cram schools and stuff, so they like carved the formulas hard into their brain LOL.
These people are not high school students. They have forgotten some stuff. Even then, the 670 average is a lot higher than the national average of 528 as you have claimed. This is more than 1 standard deviation from the mean, and almost 2 standard deviations. I would think this concludes that Chinese people are on average, good in SAT Maths, instead of looking at a fixed cut-off score of 700 and concluding that they are not that good.
@@nangongyiyun hey man, think about it. Where is the best university located? MIT, Harvard and... By the way, ten years from now, the fucking communist university in china will still not be able to catch up. Communist!
6:22 Are you sure this is the SAT level? For most of the problems, I can just calculate in mind without using pen and paper. For example, the P36, this is just the problem of calculating the root for Y**2 + 4Y + 4 = 0. So Y is -2, and then x is 3.
Try the Singapore A levels H2 paper set in line with Cambridge, or Math papers from top junior colleges (E.g Hwachong) in Singapore. They'd be in for a treat.
SAT 根本不能跟中国高考相同并论，SAT 是考美国高中必须学的Algebra II 考（也就是最低要求）因为每个人的数学可以在不同程度，而中国大家学的都一样，难度自然而然可以比较高。而且现在大多数美国高中学生在高中都学到calculus，可是这个不概括在SAT 里面，只有AP 或 SAT II 考的到。
Hey Laoma Chris, I couldn't help but notice that the SAT Math in this video was translated into Chinese. While it might make it easier for Chinese speakers, I can understand why some people might question the fairness of that. It's important to ensure a level playing field for all test takers. What are your thoughts on this? #FairnessMatters
@@AFFROBO Also, I remember in my junior year, I went to Mainland China and scored 103/150 on the Chinese College Entrance Exam(GaoKao) in the Math Section, you know? Why do you question me like that?🤔🤔🤨🤨
@@sanjose4239 Wow you would make a great politician, said a bunch of non sense and didn't even answer my question. Btw 103 on gaokao for math section Is very pathetic, it's like saying you scored 600/800 on math section of SAT and bragging about it 🤣
I m a Singaporean Chinese n I hold a Bachelor Degree in Economics from University of London. My Gweilo lecturer has said “The Asians have done embarrassing well in the Maths paper”. Not surprising, I done A-Maths to 3 years of engineering mathematics b4: Calculus is fun, determinants vs matrices, conditional probabilities to Bayes Probabilities r mind intriguing. Hmmmmn ~ 🙌 I m 63, I still can remember C^2=A^2+B^2-2ABcosC, law of inertia, definition of Force, Principle of Flotation, Boyles/Charles Law n 3 principles of lever. I m just “grilled” in Maths,Science n English.
Bruh I’m from a below average high school in Shanghai but our average SAT math score was 780+ from hundreds of students smh. This college exam is much easier than our midterms back in junior high ong 😂😂 stop playing with me with da 670 average lmao
Why did y'all take that SAT in Shanghai? Also it can be deceptive, there's a reason the girl got a 780 and the guy a 700 even though they are both perfectly capable of 800. Very easy to make simple, stupid mistakes that end up being quite punishing. Here in the US middle schoolers do learn a good amount of algebra so it isn't tremendously different from our own harder middle school math tests tbh, but it depends on your exact school and whether you were in an honor's class or something
@@HuckleberryHim taking SAT=applying for colleges in the US; No, even if you make stupid mistakes you won’t go all the way down to like 700. We are/were mature high schoolers, not kindergarteners. That’s why our average was 780+. You need to pay extra attention on your basic math fundamentals if you really score below that. There are indeed many good local students that do really/extremely well in terms of math or STEM. But in general, as I’ve been teaching in a US top4 STEM university, and a good amount of the local students do not have good fundamentals in math and sciences, which is barely the case among international students (especially Chinese high school graduates imo). Not trying to belittle anyone, as local students outperforms us in many other aspects. But just for this specific topic, it is just the case.
@@yerong1223 You absolutely will, that's why the guy in the video, who is Chinese and was educated in China (and just graduated from a prestigious university (not high school) last year, and got a 130+ on the GaoKao.......), scored 700. I was a year out of HS when I took it and I thought I got 100% on the math because it was easy but I got a 730. I have no idea what I got wrong but it's those slight things you overlook that get you, the weird grading system makes it incredibly easy to lose points from 800. It could be that attention to detail is more drilled into the average Chinese student via the education system of China (although I don't know if every single Chinese kid gets that same education, though I know it's a lot). But that really isn't a great indicator of mathematical ability. It is of course very important not to make mistakes when solving problems or writing proofs etc, but it feels less reflective of overall acumen than actually understanding the concepts, the logic, and executing the right steps (which is why partial credit is a thing). Of course Chinese students far outperform American students in math. No one can debate that. It is just a matter of educational policy and priorities though, Americans could do the same if this country started to value these things more.
@@HuckleberryHim I don’t know any friend who made mistakes and got below 780 tbh. I made mistakes too, but we all got 790-800 since there’s a tolerance in grading system that allows you make small mistakes occasionally and still score 800. I have absolutely no idea what the guy in the video was doing, may just be an exception lmao. I don’t think its because we care more on the details-it is just too easy to make mistake honestly. Only mistake I can imagine is to get confused with some wordings, I guess? The fundamentals we’ve been practicing about the concepts, the logics, the methodologies, and etc. just allow us to not making mistakes. If you would like to experience what I meant, feel free to look up a GaoKao test and try it - it is another world. I do agree on the education system part, and that is also why institutions in the US are attracting an overwhelming amount of scholars from all over the world.
The probably with SAT is that they mostly have multiple choice questions, which is different from math courses we take in school. Most formatives and summative in school are not based on multiple choice questions. More logical thinking and the ability to observe the pattern are needed.
Which group of people can learn Chinese in Chinese and which group of people better learn Chinese in English. I remember there was an English learning program called " Follow Me" when I was growing up, it had a Chinese host and a British host.
没有一直盯着字幕，偶尔看到的字幕发现两个小错，一个是数学术语翻译，此复数非彼复数，it's complex rather than plural，一个是8x=16(英文字幕打成了26)，再一个考题里面，i应该是√-1，以及那位拒绝计算器却算错数的男同学，那就是二元一次方程组，不是鸡兔同笼啊喂，最后建议再做一个企划，找初高中在读生来做，尤其初中要是600+就很有意思了
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當我看到裡面的題目之後我發現這是我初中的題目
這就是亞洲教育的弊端啊，很容易造就數學文學天才但是經過大學四年出來以後絕對不會把書本裡的知識再運用。
SAT數學的難度相當於台灣國中生1，2年級的程度，
大學生畢業的時候，差不多有10幾年沒碰，尤其很多人大學專業沒有選數學。這不是很公平的選擇。
叫13～14歲國中生來做SAT數學，那就差不多程度。我考過，所以很清楚。
SAT數學有分基本級，和專項版。
在SAT專項的數學考試裡面，那難度就蠻有水準的。要拿700，不容易。
請問 你是中東回教徒或印度及巴基的麼？
我很好奇，who is your wife?
你应该找高中毕业生来做更有参考价值，很多大学毕业或者大三大四都开始忘了以前的知识了
建议找初中生看看能做多少，虽然有些课题还没涉及
对，找高中毕业比较靠谱
高三是好多人一生中的知识巅峰时刻
@@arthurchen2645 是我是我，高中时候那真能说是上知天文下知地理哈哈哈
@@Octgirlsx 现在都忘记了
你给高中毕业隔了十几年的人做卷子，其实不是不会是很多只是忘记了
是的😂就像人家说，高中毕业是知识巅峰期，后面慢慢变文盲了😂
@@nefertari_Kaneko 高中毕业时是全面发展，毕业后开始偏科。😄
问题是隔了十几年的都700分以上了
@@nefertari_Kaneko 除非考研
人的記憶非常不同，有些老工程師一輩子都記得所學，敝人大學畢業五年後忘掉所有🙁
高考的数学，够用很多地方了。研究生很多地方都得感谢高考数学。
没错， 我现在工作用的数学知识就是高中学的。
最卷的階段就是高中
所以高考時期學到的東西是最多且最難的
像我們港澳地區高中奧數班已經在教微積分了
你让一个数学100多的毕业10年后去做高考题，能60就不错了，如果找高三学生来做这个，就秒杀了
If these people can get around 700 even after 15 years without using them, then they could get almost full score if they were in high school for sure. It is certainly misleading using this score to represent Chinese students.
你把可以把黄冈的考试卷拿给美国人做，看看到底谁更崩溃。我加拿大读书，大学的数学是我初中学的内容，我不过是画了一个每个中国学生都会画的线段图解出一道题，外国同学个个惊呼amazing，因为他们不会🙂
黄冈试卷得教授做，还没中国学生速度快
你把高考考场出来的学生拦住，让他们做一套题----他们不会理你的----“终于毕业了，做什么题做题！”
easy，把老马换成一位美女
@@richardgao5553 笑死🤣
有的看了一眼题，说，你在羞辱我的智商ma
身為一位高中生，我看這份卷子似乎頗簡單的……好像還比段考簡單些
哈哈哈 我也有這種感覺
我估计找几个同年级的高中生来做 分数会很不一样 哈哈哈
如果是高中生，学渣也能800.
@@真理教三位一体圣-e4f 800过分了，感觉平均分应该在750左右，有些粗心大意在所难免的
難的是看得懂題目 (英文
@@boxingHung 这个倒问题不大，因为是考试，有套路的，只要作相应的训练就可以了，可以在不完全明白的情况下，猜出他想问什么。
@@boxingHung 其实数学题，懂几个单词基本是就知道问什么了
哈哈哈，这么说吧，我初中中考成绩是刚好卡在苏州市前1000名。然后我高一去了澳大利亚，高中三年，课肯定是要听的，稍微认真一些，数学几乎全是A+，而且都是差不多20分钟到半小时就能做完全部题目的。
哪个城市啊？我怎么不记得我用的是字母序列…学的是extension 2吗？我觉得到Extension 2还是有难度的…
@@cherryliang3929 在Brisbane,数学可以选两门，学的是math B和math C
应该找高中生来考，众所周知，中国非数学专业的学生，数学做题能力的峰值水平在高三。应该拿大学都毕业很多年的美国学生跟大学毕业很多年的美国学生比、中国高三学生和美国高三（四）学生比，这样才算公平。
哈哈哈，比高三低。我们分文理科不是吗
應該找 台灣高三 理工科學生來考，這些題目都沒問題，絕對贏過美國高三學生……而且考試要提供 計算紙，若只在平板上滑動，很不真實 不好計算……
哈哈，众所周知，用的好
看不懂英文比較困難
不過只要是選擇題那就沒啥問題
過顛峰後,基本非本職都會忘掉
Oh god how do they still remember all these formulas and solutions haha
I forgot all of them the minute I finished my math exams
You got that right.
Exactly!!!
i forget them before and then when doing them i just randomly remembers them and do the questions and when the teacher gives the paper back and asks me to explain to the class i don’t remember anything i wrote lol
as you said
I think this is because maybe they study almost everyday? I think their childhood filled with cram schools and stuff, so they like carved the formulas hard into their brain LOL.
我家小朋友数学不错，才八年级，SAT就可以考700分以上。最近做了深国交（深圳国际学校）的（同级）入学考试题，一道也不会做。哭的很痛。
我知道高考比台灣的難很多，但就這份考卷，我覺得台灣的高中生來做也覺得很簡單
有夠簡單
還記得當時在師大附中數資班高一時，大家一群朋友無聊就一起寫了美國SAT的數學考試，6個人裡面就只有一個人錯了1題 😂 整個對自己數學能力信心大增 ( 然後去寫數甲就爆了，乖乖唸高二高三
SAT難度跟台灣的升大學考試難度差很多
我發現就算是雄中的數學也不一定逼師大附中好欸，不過像我們這種中段學校不能跟你們前段的比哈哈，我也很好奇如果我們學校的數理資優或隨便一個人來寫美國SAT考試會怎樣
我覺得師大普通班隨便挑一個應該都不會太差...吧？
@@許勛睿 雄中是前段==
這個考試（第一題）大概相當中國大陸以前的初中水準。（純粹是教學進度不同。）
I’m studying Chinese and your videos make learning the language so fun! Thank you :))
These people are not high school students. They have forgotten some stuff.
Even then, the 670 average is a lot higher than the national average of 528 as you have claimed. This is more than 1 standard deviation from the mean, and almost 2 standard deviations. I would think this concludes that Chinese people are on average, good in SAT Maths, instead of looking at a fixed cut-off score of 700 and concluding that they are not that good.
東西方對學習的出發點有蠻大的差異, 導致課程的深度也相對不同. 但是最終還是要有靈活的思考, 不僵化於學科. 尤其在大學以後要更精進於學問的研究. 才能有所成就.
資源少,僧多粥少,
自然要用考試去篩選,
考試自然越來越難,
否則如何入大學?
入了大學才講靈活思考吧!😅
Chris把這視評剪輯的太好笑啦666
叫在校高中生来做这些题的话应该平均分会高非常多，即使是班上的差生
SAT MATH is a joke. 我们中学（北京）在我们12岁的时候给我们做过一次SAT MATH的卷子，做着玩，全班一小半都是满分……
对啊 他们大多不是不懂 就是忘了 你把一些大学生 给他们做 比较准确
Hey, chinese english is also a joke!
@@Ker288 Thats because english is not important enough for Chinese students. 因为没用，所以懒得费时间学
@@Ker288 how about American's chinese？
@@nangongyiyun hey man, think about it. Where is the best university located? MIT, Harvard and... By the way, ten years from now, the fucking communist university in china will still not be able to catch up. Communist!
東方跟西方教育方不同，您們比較喜歡哪種?
剛剛看了其中兩條multiple choice題目 (發現都很簡單，都能10～15秒內心算出來，現在才知道SAT的試題這麼簡單。記得38年前剛念高中的時候，考試題目比這些艱深。
剛剛再多看兩題，發現只有香港的初中程度，而且初中的試題都比他們的深，我念中二的兒子的試題都比這些複雜。
你是說什麼高中？香港？
说点题外话，数学是所有自然科学的基础，看来将来美中之间的竞争就是一帮律师银行家和工程师以及科研人员之间的竞争了。
想想大陆50%的中考录取率，初升高的数学也不会太容易。
最近刚发现中国一些地方初升高有所谓的一比一分流，说的就是这个吧？
@@edukid1984 20年前就是1比1了。。。只不过没人关心这个而已，不知道为什么现在要拎出来说，很多人还觉得很惊讶。
@@hewitt29 我也好奇，上不了高中的都是完全不读书的那种学生
6:22 Are you sure this is the SAT level? For most of the problems, I can just calculate in mind without using pen and paper. For example, the P36, this is just the problem of calculating the root for Y**2 + 4Y + 4 = 0. So Y is -2, and then x is 3.
Try the Singapore A levels H2 paper set in line with Cambridge, or Math papers from top junior colleges (E.g Hwachong) in Singapore. They'd be in for a treat.
The questions shown here actually feels easier than O levels emath…
Huh Math is decent for you all, but you guys’oral in English are lame. 😂
emmm.....
Fmath and H3 are much harder. H2 is really nothing lol like in Alevel 50% of the students can get A.
@@morris4490 not really we can literally switch accents
考不到750的话，高考大概率会不及格
这评论给我整笑了哈哈哈
那個應用技術大學和復旦大學是本科的區間，SAT的分差就是兩個很好的例子，那個男孩子太粗心了。
找高二学生就OK了，一般高二已经把高中的全学完了，高考就是噩梦，如果后续不用谁会愿意记这些东西呢
我这个离开高中40多年，除了买菜10以内加减法，再也没有碰过数学题的老头，感觉这些题太容易了，除了sin, cos 忘记哪个边对哪个边，其他就是比速度，能不能一分钟一个题。难道我曾经也是学霸?
可能这些题是挑出来最简单的美国高考题吧? 和中国77年高考一个水平。
哈哈哈哈。我刚想说77年高考题40岁以下的可能都没见过
然后发现是前辈。失敬失敬
77年的高考还有我，3个月从初2学到高中
@@davidcai9195 你才是前辈学长。我们那时候，学习材料极其宝贵，课本都要两人合用。只要是书，没有不抢的。不过在我准备高考时，发现77，78的试题已经太简单了，毫无价值。
@@2024-l9n 没有哦，我和他们比，只是小字辈。77，78都是人才。他们那两届以后，基本都是普通人了。
1:25左右的第3題是翻譯的問題嗎？
先是沒說下午是多久
看答案的關係應該是9小時
然後這題目沒說兩人分別發送多久
所以根本無法分辨到答案c還是d才是正確答案
找高三学霸做这些题平均分应该是800分。上了大学有所退步很正常
都不用找学霸 找个学习一般的就行
能不能找两国的高三学生来做一做？有可比性
中国高三学生做这个不得780兜底
找畢業多年的是沒意義的, 我們亞洲人數學教育比歐美紮實, 如果是當年考大部人相信都能高分
問題是對於很多人，數學出社會後大多數是用不到的(或僅限於某些領域), 就像我當年數學也不錯, 但高中畢業到現在7年了 你叫我回想微積分公式 三角函數 誰記得起來= =
我
我還記得畢氏定理,二元一次聯立方程式的解法XD
记得的人很多啊 看当时学的水平和之后的工作吧
@@stevengelber2780 除了教數學的老師，什麼工作還要這些公式？🤔 做電腦也不用吧！
@@bella8303 很多工程类的工作都需要的啊
作为SAT老师吧，我觉得可能刚上手会有一些问题，和我们的方式不一样，主要还是思维为主。成年读过大学的，稍微训练一下，基本不会低于750.留美的孩子如果不到800，学生会想死的。基本初三，偶尔高一水平的考试。SAT目前比较难的就是词汇而已。其他语法阅读越来越简单了。
SAT非常簡單，大多數有在唸書的華人都可以考高分甚至滿分． 我一個同學在台灣排中等，去考SAT滿分
但最后世界伟大的数学家中国人大概也就几个邱成桐，有趣么？中国人sat很高，但最后人才寥寥
@@weihu1010 那是西方文明几个世纪的成果，高等教育的进步是需要时间的。
哈哈 7分上大学的地方
@@weihu1010 人才寥寥？呵呵
@@weihu1010 人家说sat的难度，也没说中国的教育最好。按你这思路不管说什么话题你都可以说中国没有5nm光刻机。
You should get a Singapore students to do it. I’m sure it’s not fair to compare adults who are out of touch vs students.
我当年中国初中毕业，来加拿大后直到大学一年级我才开始接触到数学新知识点。我加拿大高一数学考试15分钟做完，我的老师以为我作弊偷试题让我在他眼皮底下做B卷确认我没有作弊......
Love seeing people try stuff!
我是香港人，我覺得我們做的DSE數學更難，美國試卷挺簡單的，看起來好像沒有長答題
有时间可以尝试下大陆的高考数学，你会哭的！我一个高中文科生结果大学选择了理科，鬼知道我看到高数的时候有多么崩溃！
香港難度是在中國之下，美國之上
来我们大河北体验一下。10年前全国一卷的水平现在的题太简单了。我感觉就数学而言你们80%都达不到及格分数线。如果你学的理综我觉得90%都上不了本科。
@@treenewbee5118 确实，在河北河南山东考试，如果你高考数学上不了120，你想上一本应该希望不大了。而想全国卷数学考到120以上，你考SAT这份卷子最多只能错一两道题，而且这只是一个保守估计。
@@treenewbee5118 大概是因为有衡水中学和衡水二中吧。
我考sat时三次都没数学满分，给国家丢脸了😂
然而四年后我gre数学没准备也考了满分，找回了一些场子
现在美国很多学校连sat都不看了 尤其不能看数学 因为太难😂真的是太搞笑了
有次想给女儿报学而思的培训，APP上有一个针对小学二年级的试卷，我好奇做了一下，只得了八十几分😂我本人高考数学115，满分120。只能说现在中国的小学生越学越难了
初中水平就能考，他们都是离开学校太久了，手感都没有了，你让初三刚毕业的来考，满分估计占比挺高，哈哈哈
求 1:53 开始的配乐
這些是基本的應用數學，亞洲人成績較好是因為學習階段大量的練習，所以在基本理論及反應上強過一般西方人。但是談到高深數學人才，如物理或天文方面的分析，優勢便不是那麼明顯了。
问题是西方这类高深人才很少吧
@@kakaxifx4913 西方教育是適性教育，所以有數學天份的會得到充分發揮，但是平均水平比不上亞洲國家，人頭我沒數過，但是數一數近代物理大師，科學論文發表，西方高深人才應該也不會太少。
@@tcdwu 哦哦，这个是暂时现象的，西方好多高手都是年纪大的，他们的成就是建立在国家经济实力保证下的良好教育上的，上次科学声音这个号的主讲人说了，我国的诺奖的爆发期大概在2035年左右，那个时候教育普及就该开花结果了，同理数学那个时候会有一些成就，不过， 我国在数学上的培养确实力度不如物理化学这些。另外歪个楼，你有没有发现中国的运动员颜值越来越高了， 这个也是经济好了，营养和保养跟上累计到现在导致，这个会比较体现，毕竟长大到运动员只要20年。
@@kakaxifx4913 数学家出成绩的时候基本都不会年龄太大，大多数顶级数学家可能二十多岁就是巅峰了。所以，我们现在确实不大行，不过也有一些天才数学家的，只是在普通人中不太知名
@@vincenthou8484 我们数学发展确实不太行，这个科技袁人专门说过的。但是物理化学生物这种还是可以的。
这系列要继续做下去，太可爱了
少数几个我能完整看到的题目，我只需口算（一个两年前文科高考数学五十分的家伙）。这个视频让我初中以来第一次觉得我数学还行🤣
我只有初中畢業，下載人工智慧軟體，用說普通話就能寫好程式，架構網站只需 20秒,至於數學這門課題，就交給量子電腦，把事情辦好最重要其它的都是次要。
只有我觉得封面的女生很像森沢佳奈吗
SAT 根本不能跟中国高考相同并论，SAT 是考美国高中必须学的Algebra II 考（也就是最低要求）因为每个人的数学可以在不同程度，而中国大家学的都一样，难度自然而然可以比较高。而且现在大多数美国高中学生在高中都学到calculus，可是这个不概括在SAT 里面，只有AP 或 SAT II 考的到。
应技大和复旦的区别，有时候往往就是细节
复旦的学生沉稳扎实，应技大的学生高傲，但也还行
你得看啥时候毕业的吧
@@alexp2019 不是知识点，而是做事风格，明明说允许计算器，结果说我不用，我手算，错了
@@lubingan7971 个人的态度问题，问直径，他给半径，审题不仔细，还很傲娇不用计算器，这明显是态度问题，跟风格没关系吧
高考很大程度就是細節決定成敗，應技大和復旦就是明顯的例子。
Hey Laoma Chris, I couldn't help but notice that the SAT Math in this video was translated into Chinese. While it might make it easier for Chinese speakers, I can understand why some people might question the fairness of that. It's important to ensure a level playing field for all test takers. What are your thoughts on this? #FairnessMatters
He translated the Chinese questions to English as well why aren’t you questioning that?
@@AFFROBO lol, I am actually a Taiwanese-American, btw, and I can do math questions in both English and Chinese.🤓🤓
@@AFFROBO Also, I remember in my junior year, I went to Mainland China and scored 103/150 on the Chinese College Entrance Exam(GaoKao) in the Math Section, you know? Why do you question me like that?🤔🤔🤨🤨
@@sanjose4239 Wow you would make a great politician, said a bunch of non sense and didn't even answer my question.
Btw 103 on gaokao for math section Is very pathetic, it's like saying you scored 600/800 on math section of SAT and bragging about it 🤣
I mean, especially for y'all native Americans.
范老师身材真好！
😂
但係手好似唔係好啱比例？
SAT不会超过中学基本教学教纲内容，SAT1， SAT2，对应一般科目或理工科目，不过现在好多学校听说不采用了。还有一个类似的ACT考试，分别是东西部大学不同标准
对普通中国人来说，英文数学题题本身其实不是难点，题干读不懂才是难点（来自一个被选修数学课题目整疯的人）
让我想起概率题目很多都是栽在垃圾出题人的语言歧义
I m a Singaporean Chinese n I hold a Bachelor Degree in Economics from University of London. My Gweilo lecturer has said “The Asians have done embarrassing well in the Maths paper”. Not surprising, I done A-Maths to 3 years of engineering mathematics b4: Calculus is fun, determinants vs matrices, conditional probabilities to Bayes Probabilities r mind intriguing. Hmmmmn ~ 🙌
I m 63, I still can remember C^2=A^2+B^2-2ABcosC, law of inertia, definition of Force, Principle of Flotation, Boyles/Charles Law n 3 principles of lever. I m just “grilled” in Maths,Science n English.
Bruh I’m from a below average high school in Shanghai but our average SAT math score was 780+ from hundreds of students smh. This college exam is much easier than our midterms back in junior high ong 😂😂 stop playing with me with da 670 average lmao
Why did y'all take that SAT in Shanghai? Also it can be deceptive, there's a reason the girl got a 780 and the guy a 700 even though they are both perfectly capable of 800. Very easy to make simple, stupid mistakes that end up being quite punishing.
Here in the US middle schoolers do learn a good amount of algebra so it isn't tremendously different from our own harder middle school math tests tbh, but it depends on your exact school and whether you were in an honor's class or something
@@HuckleberryHim taking SAT=applying for colleges in the US;
No, even if you make stupid mistakes you won’t go all the way down to like 700. We are/were mature high schoolers, not kindergarteners. That’s why our average was 780+. You need to pay extra attention on your basic math fundamentals if you really score below that.
There are indeed many good local students that do really/extremely well in terms of math or STEM. But in general, as I’ve been teaching in a US top4 STEM university, and a good amount of the local students do not have good fundamentals in math and sciences, which is barely the case among international students (especially Chinese high school graduates imo). Not trying to belittle anyone, as local students outperforms us in many other aspects. But just for this specific topic, it is just the case.
@@yerong1223 You absolutely will, that's why the guy in the video, who is Chinese and was educated in China (and just graduated from a prestigious university (not high school) last year, and got a 130+ on the GaoKao.......), scored 700. I was a year out of HS when I took it and I thought I got 100% on the math because it was easy but I got a 730. I have no idea what I got wrong but it's those slight things you overlook that get you, the weird grading system makes it incredibly easy to lose points from 800.
It could be that attention to detail is more drilled into the average Chinese student via the education system of China (although I don't know if every single Chinese kid gets that same education, though I know it's a lot). But that really isn't a great indicator of mathematical ability. It is of course very important not to make mistakes when solving problems or writing proofs etc, but it feels less reflective of overall acumen than actually understanding the concepts, the logic, and executing the right steps (which is why partial credit is a thing).
Of course Chinese students far outperform American students in math. No one can debate that. It is just a matter of educational policy and priorities though, Americans could do the same if this country started to value these things more.
@@HuckleberryHim I don’t know any friend who made mistakes and got below 780 tbh. I made mistakes too, but we all got 790-800 since there’s a tolerance in grading system that allows you make small mistakes occasionally and still score 800.
I have absolutely no idea what the guy in the video was doing, may just be an exception lmao.
I don’t think its because we care more on the details-it is just too easy to make mistake honestly. Only mistake I can imagine is to get confused with some wordings, I guess? The fundamentals we’ve been practicing about the concepts, the logics, the methodologies, and etc. just allow us to not making mistakes. If you would like to experience what I meant, feel free to look up a GaoKao test and try it - it is another world.
I do agree on the education system part, and that is also why institutions in the US are attracting an overwhelming amount of scholars from all over the world.
前一段我参加成人高考，考前两个月时间自学大学数学，我这个20年没摸书本的人竟然考了95分（总分150分）。
中国应试能力肯定是没得说的，不过大部分学生在高中甚至初中已经过早透支掉了学习能力和学习的热情。
以我學習經驗,不是透支,是學習方法錯誤,沒切中方法,所以提不起興趣
我就是上初中来的美国。当我高中毕业我都才感觉我的数学刚刚跟我初中学的差不多。当然我初中没学几何。但是几何那玩意把公式记住了就没啥了
The probably with SAT is that they mostly have multiple choice questions, which is different from math courses we take in school. Most formatives and summative in school are not based on multiple choice questions. More logical thinking and the ability to observe the pattern are needed.
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO! Loved it!!!!
我有个疑问： SAT真的这么简单吗？这是初中生的题诶！
数学简单阅读题特别难特别特别跟托福不是一个概念
就是那么容易。不用太怀疑。拿中考数学题给美国高中生做，应该大部分都不会及格
SAT在美国大学录取里占比不是像中国高考那样是100%，估计只有30-40%吧。其他的像GPA，推荐信，essay，课外经历也很重要，国际生还有语言成绩要求
Yes..should test those preparing for exam. Not those already graduated long time
有几道问题在马来西亚只是普通数学呀哈哈哈哈😂
为什么光找简单的题，连澳洲高考math extension 2的都比这儿难多了
maths C路过，我们还有matrix和微积分
我见太多sat数学满分的了，我家就一位
Hey who writes your subtitles and edits your videos. It seems like a lot of work??
我看起來覺得都是高中的數學會學到的部分吧😂 順便一句，通常很多人高考考完，放一個暑假就幾乎忘光了，不然就要想很久😂
建議可以找找台灣的數學高考試題（我們這邊叫基本學歷測驗，簡稱學測）🙃 大概從2001年往前找題目都很不錯的😂
沒有，其實真的大部分都是台灣的國中範圍，還是出的偏比較基礎的，我自己就是教數學的。
大四上学期寒假，一个同学在家乡城市的一所省重点高中应聘数学教师。校方为了测试他的数学能力，拿了一份高考模拟试卷给我同学和高三年的学生一起做。
试卷时间2小时，但考试时间只给1小时。我同学1小时之内完成，满分。所有高三学生没有一个能在1个小时内完成，最后只有2，3个及格。
我佩服得五体投地，因为我自己确实属于高考之后一年让我再考一次高考数学根本考不及格的那种，公式，定理大多数都已经想不起来了🤣
Hi, is it better to learn Chinese only in Chinese or the teacher should teach Chinese in English?
我初一考PSAT拿了780，有些內容還沒學但很簡單都能自己想出來解法😂
大哥，psat数学部分满分是760，780你是咋考的。。。
@@tonysun9267 xdd
你们年轻，那年我还考了820呢，这东西不准的，有些年头吧就调的高些。。。好吧我编不下去了🤣@@tonysun9267
第二部分用计算器的好像是初中的题，太简单
sat應該要出sat2的考題吧
走數學專業考的是這個
然而还是很简单，轻松800
Suggest you try the Hong Kong A-Level Examination
可以这么理解，西方人会把很多那些国内高中的课程放到大学里，所以为什么说在国外上大学难，在国内上高中难，很多人国内辛苦上了高中，到国外留学，发现学习的还是类似的东西，所以极度崩溃，还有就是国内很多大学的课程更像是搞形式主义的学术研究。我就想说绝大多数的大学课程在现实中实用性并不大，起码2000年以前是这样
我跟着娃开始了解美国数学的教学理念，我个人觉得还是很不错的。就教材而言还是喜欢美国式的，真的是引导你去理解数学架构本身而不是死记和过于练题。国内上过初高中的，很多高分基本就是操练题出来的，当然极少数天才不在此类。
@@lifeofalexis8509 數理科前半部要靠理解,推導公式,證明定理,這極大部分要靠老師帶or參考書要寫得好,後半部就是練習解題,這要靠用功,可見老師師資質不行
小馬哥能出一集中國學生考GMAT的視頻嗎？
下次试试GRE数学
考过，也挺简单的
@@lawrencezhang3899 gmat 和 gre 哪个更难啊
GRE math is also middle school level math in China.
特简单
@@alexp2019 都很简单
Chris cuando cursos de mandarin para latinos 🙏🏻
¡Y castellano para chinos!!!!
2:56 hahahaha editor needs a bonus
可以试试gmat的数学和推理，我觉得很有趣。
我觉得你老婆非常diplomatic....
前阵子因为好奇 然后朋友给我发了他2年前SAT的卷子 结果真的好简单 大家都是 stereotype我们亚洲人数学好 特别是华人 然后我想反驳 结果就像那姐姐说的一样 是真好 哈哈哈哈哈哈
你应该请新加坡学生来做全英文数学题，你就会知道在亚洲哪里学生整体水平是最高。可以了解一下亚洲小六数学考试是怎么样？
除了是英语命题外，相比高考还是简单了。再说了新加坡才多大的地方。非要这么比，清华本科吊打新加坡本科。
@@jason34007 待在墙内没见过墙外的世界
@@jason34007 有空多出国走走，总待在墙内头脑被中共洗脑的差不多了
@@jason34007 新加坡真的..蛮难的，新加坡的中学比中国的要难一些。我在国内是在一所全国前十的中学读书，来新加坡后继续中学学习，新加坡的中学教育比中国稍微教的要更广一些。高中的话学的会更精，但要想考好大学确实比国内容易，主要看考什么专业了
@@jason34007 要和国际上比赛，你觉得应该用什么语言？
Which group of people can learn Chinese in Chinese and which group of people better learn Chinese in English. I remember there was an English learning program called " Follow Me" when I was growing up, it had a Chinese host and a British host.
中考满分，高考119，德国高数1.7的飘过，毕业论文就是每天都在编矩阵Matlab
学霸！👍
為什麼有中文數學題？美國SAT不都是英文數學題嗎？🤔 題目看不懂。
我在高中數學就是個學渣。 。 。而且當時我們學校是省一級 我是全班倒數 你想想一個倒數 去到澳洲的麥考瑞大學 然後學離散數學2。 。 。一門超多人掛的科目 我在筆試上拿了滿分。 。 。我了個天 不過因為我assignment沒交 assignment是跟自動機有關係的 我不喜歡。 。 。但筆試不考自動機 考的是高三數學難度 搞笑的是我過了。 。 。我一個學渣 僅靠筆試 哈哈哈 看來的確中國數學比國外難
哈哈哈哈，我笑出小舌头
我去年也考了sat，我数学是考了760，而且我大学毕业已经五年了，就直接裸考了数学，然后subject math 2是考了730，就真的不难吧我觉得😂
sat的数学真的简单,难得还得看我amc的数学
AMC也只有最後幾題比較難吧？
我有个疑问，如果美国普通学生的数学真的那么差，也就是经历过优良数学训练的学生总基数比较小，那么他们怎么保证有足够的科研人才的？
Y应该是能够到国内的初一水平数学
在美國Y已經很難了😂
看成了丫，以为在骂人。。。
請問哪裡找得到中文版的試題
球的表面積和體積一個都沒看到 算蠻輕鬆愉悅的題目 不過時間倒是意外的少
應該讓他們考a level的數學
他们这个数学比O level还简单？！！
@@ia8968 你知道什麼是 a level嗎？
@@ferdinandhe5239 我今年考O Level数学Syllabus D，真的SAT比我考的都简单
@@ia8968 好吧
没有一直盯着字幕，偶尔看到的字幕发现两个小错，一个是数学术语翻译，此复数非彼复数，it's complex rather than plural，一个是8x=16(英文字幕打成了26)，再一个考题里面，i应该是√-1，以及那位拒绝计算器却算错数的男同学，那就是二元一次方程组，不是鸡兔同笼啊喂，最后建议再做一个企划，找初高中在读生来做，尤其初中要是600+就很有意思了
鸡兔同笼就是二元一次方程组的问题吧。
@@苏离熵 不一定啊，鸡兔同笼只是可以用二元一次方程组解而已
呃…我是台灣國三的學生，普通的公立國中，平常數學段考幾乎沒及格過，剛剛去考了一下，拿了520，不知道是不是好事😂
有点低啦兄弟😂
我想知道美国的考试那么简单，他是用什么标准来评定什么人进好大学的？因为考高分的应该会很多，看平时在校表现吗？
sat就该找高中生做，如果实在不行，找数学专业的毕业生做也行
？？？？谁数学专业还记这些..我们第一年前半部分全是逻辑学和哲学
@@calatravas2664 哲学？你是国外的大学么？逻辑学肯定啊，但很多还是关于linear regression， algebra，特别是微积分这些基础学科
@@hhaa7907 linear regression 这单词很熟悉 ，calculo 和algebra肯定是基础 我们第一年就这几门课 微积分 algebra geometry ，math analisis 我也不知道英文是不是叫这 毕竟我不是英语国家. 但是这些跟大学数学真没什么关系 就好像你会背唐诗总不能说中文专业的就背得比较好吧… 我们都被拓扑学 各种分析虐的死去活来了….基本我觉得一个数学系毕业的 做得出高中考卷 只是这个人记忆力比较好而已. 我反正觉得数学第一年跟噩梦似的就是因为基本上就是希腊哲学体系下的各种验证axiom 根本就不是高中知识的下一阶段 他是直接给你另外开哲学课
@@calatravas2664 国外并不是，国外是大一大二基础数学，大三大四选择分支，比如statistics，偏微分方程，real analysis这种。大学里的确用不到高中那种知识，但我觉得数学主要是给我培养的是一个思维模式，这个东西对于文科生来说是学不到的。还有就是你单纯的去看看SAt这种题目，根本运用不到国内高中知识，too easy了
@@hhaa7907 问题是你把自己高中知识拿掉纯运用大学数学根本就不可能比一个高中生死记硬背那几个方程式来的快速解题，这就好比我记得以前看到的一个笑话，一个数学系回家买菜钱被找错了，他妈说他大学4年数学白学了. 而且你这回答有点鸡头牛尾的…你这科普还错了，至少欧洲数学 大一是全基础，大二分为必修和 基础 至少我们大四才可以选修和加一个TFM