I find that the Valvoline maxlife seems to last a lot longer than other transmission fluids I've had my transmission fluid from Valvoline in my transmission on my 06 Town Car for about 30 thousand miles and it's absolutely phenomenal I actually called Valvoline up and I had a conversation with them and I said look what can I use this transmission fluid in and they said what can you not use that transmission fluid in Somehow they have that fluid engineered to work in almost every single vehicle on the road....it really is multi-vehicle and I don't know how they did it and then they give you like some kind of $2,000 guarantee if done by a dealership or something like that if anything should break because of their fluids because they know this stuff is serious
Right on Rich, I really appreciate it when you stop by. It's nice to get a second opinion from a current Master Tech on the front lines. This really helps the folks who may stumble accros this video. -Chuck
I've changed the transmission fluid on my 99 Town Car, the 03 Grand Marquis, and my dad's 92 Town Car all with Supertech Mercon V. 92 and 99 had an additional drain plug on the torque coverter (accessible behind the rubber cover, then turn the converter until the plug shows up). The 03 didn't have the plug. It lets you drain another 8 or so quarts of transmission fluid. The 92 has had torque converter shudder for a long time and the 99 developed it within a few months of ownership. Changing all the transmission fluid from pan and torque converter (and installing a new Motorcraft filter) fixed the issue in the 99, but the 92 still does it. Grand Marquis also developed a shudder before the 3-4 shift with the lockup engaged. I could only change 5 quarts with the pan drop only and this has improved the behavior. I wish the 03 had a torque converter plug. On the 92 and 99, the fluid out of the torque converter was very brown. Another method for draining the pan before dropping it is to open the transmission cooler line at the radiator, direct it into a bucket, and run the car until the flow becomes a trickle. I did this on the 03 Grand Marquis but again I only got 5 quarts out between this and the pan drop.
Right on Aharon, Thanks for the great feedback. I forgot to mention the color characteristics of the V vs. the LV. When dealing with V, the color of the fluid may indicate it's dirty, or has been overheated. However when dealing with LV, it can turn black after only 15,000 miles and this can be normal. It's just the normal charcteristic of the fluid. I included a video link in the dexscription form FordTechMakuLoco showing this. Thanks for reminding me. -Chuck
@Butler’s Auto DIY Right on AL, You are allowed to make new friends on TH-cam. Just click over to Aharon's channel, intorduce yourself, and get his email. -Chuck
I bought my 2010 Grand Marquis with 105k. I assumed the ATF was never changed so I flushed the old stuff out ASAP with Amsoil ATF. I opened up the cooler line and ran the car as I was pouring new stuff through the dipstick tube and watched the light brown fluid turn into a bright red. After that I dropped the pan and confirmed that the ATF and filter were never changed due to the fact that the dipstick plug from the factory was sitting in the pan. I changed the filter for a wix brand from amsoil and put everything back together. That was over a year ago and my car has 130k and the transmission still shifts like new and the fluid still looks brand new too!
I've always used Motorcraft and the very first time I did a pan drop at 20k, I used one bottle of Lucas oil stabilizer fully synthetic with Motorcraft filter. I recommend doing a pan drop every 20,000 miles. I'm going to try the Costco discount! I completely forgot about it! You also gave me cravings for their hotdogs and pop Chuck, thanks lol
Good tip on drain plug. Dorman 65128 very similar, but has an "O" ring on mini-plug. I will try it on my latest Windstar. Got 412,000 miles out of my first one, and trans was still original and working perfectly when engine finally died. Did trans fluid every 50k miles. It was a great minivan.
Right on HT, Thanks for watching. No matter what drain plug kit you choose it sure makes "dropping the pan" a breeze. No worries about sloshing 4 quarts of fluid all over your face, and arms. lol -Chuck
Thank you for the video! I wish I watched the part about the Teflon tape before I did mine. It leaked, so I took off the pan again and tried to tighten up the bolts with two wrenches, and ended up breaking the assembly. I then bought pan with a plug the same day, but it was not too bad (
Right on Andrei, Thanks for the good feedback. Please understand this is a "car channel". If we're going to talk about marriage, and women I have a second channel for that. lol J/k -Chuck
I can give my blessings on that Mercon Universal fluid from Valvoline Maxlife because it goes in more than one Trans and if you get it done by a certified professional there's some kind of warranty involved if anything should happen. It's freaking phenomenal stuff compared to everything else
Right on Rich, I really appreciate it when you stop by. It's nice to get a second opinion from a current Master Tech on the front lines. This really helps the folks who may stumble accros this video. -Chuck
I took the easy way out and bought a trans pan for my 09 vic that had a drain plug already in it. I replaced the whole pan because I'm lazy. 😁 No leaks!
Thanks thanks thanks I don't have Crown Vic any more, but this this information is very helpful for any other car to know how to chose the proper fluid l
Hey Chuck, good timing I dropped the pan and changed transmission filter, and added five quarts of Mercon V (2000 Merc). Last year I bought a Doorman pan with a drain on it. I just drilled a hole in the old pan, and replaced it, was like 30 bucks from Rock Auto. Last year I found the yellow plug thing, that was c9ncering, but the magnet only had a bit of "dust" from last year to now. I am going to try Kendall Versa Trans ATF, made by philips-Conoco who makes Motorcraft oil. By the case it is a great price and is synthetic blend. I use the same hand pump you do, I use it to pump out the power steering and replace the fluids, which for the Merc is also Mercon-V. Thanks for the awesome videos, take care, and keep Pathering
Right on Mike, Thanks for the great feedback. I forgot to mention the "Yellow Cracker Jack Prize" floating around in the pan. lol I have both of mine from both cars. -Chuck
Just don't open that bottle of MaxLife in your kitchen or it's gonna be a bad time for about two weeks. When you're done using it outside, put some foil under that cap, tighten cap and go directly to basement. That stuff smells worse than diff fluid and I always thought diff fluid stunk something fierce.
Ironically HollywoodHornet I'm changing out my diff fluid and cover today and was thinking the same thing diff fluid is the worst and to my amazement the oil manufactures found a way to stink up trans fluid.
They make it stink so animals and prison inmates won't drink it. Some prisoners in my state drank a bunch of anti freeze tryin to get drunk and it kilt them. They'll drink transmission fluid two if they think it'll give em a buzz
I dropped my pan on my 07 Silverado changed the filter filled the amount of fluid that came out the pan drop then after that every few days i pumped my pand dry and refilled it i done that like 10 times and now mt transmission fluid is pretty red looks very clean it cost me a few bucks but i know i have clean fluid in mt transmission now
How many times of dropping transmission pan fluid will it take to have 100% clean fluid if anyone can figure this out it’s you! You’re definitely my favorite panther guy
Yo Steve, Thanks for stopping in. I don't know. According to Ford the only time you need to flush transmission fluid is when you suspect fluid contamination, (wrong fluid type, rain water, etc.). Or maybe a component failure to flush out debris, or some other circumstance. Under normal conditions changing 4 quarts once a year is more than enough to keep the fluid healthy. -Chuck
What would be your thoughts on using royal purple transmission ATF synthetic oil ? I’m planning on using it on my 2008 crown Vic. But upon the research information that you do 👍 witch is awesome and follow everything video so..like to know your thoughts on this and research
Right on J, Thanks for watching, and the great question. The answer to your question starts at 1:54 Your 2008 Crown Vic calls for Mercon V based on my service literature. Mercon V is conventional. Mercon LV is synthetic. According to the Motorcraft product information sheet V and LV are not interchangeable, and should not be mixed. Use your best judgment. -Chuck
Right on Vitaliy, I found a new metric in my Analytics. It shows public subscribers who click on a video to just leave a comment, and then close the video. It's says you are a prime offender. Btw, Don't go looking for me in your analytics. Lol -Chuck
Hi Chuck, interesting video and informative oil prices are nuts they went up when the price of a barrel of oil shot up and never came back down way to stick it to the consumer. My 2000 Town car has the converter drain plug and I would never just drop the pan and change filter and 4 Qts of oil. My reasoning is would you change the oil on your motor but only drain out 2 quarts and put a filter on and add 3 qts of oil? Your contaminating the new with the old. Why the newer cars do not I have a drain plug on the converter, no idea seems like a poor design. I get that people want to save $$ but your already saving a lot of $$ doing it yourself why not spend a few $$ more and get the better quality part or oil. I see it all the time on some of the forums guys buying the cheapest china crap they can for their car when they do the work. Just my two cents on the whole diy maintenance.
If you use a copper crush washer on the outside of the pan it won't leak. Great vids! how is the Valvoline LV working out for you I have a service interval coming up and thinking to switch.
@@angrysheepdog9744 Page 402 of the Owner’s Manual for your 2010 F-150 indicates Mercon LV is the transmission fluid specification, (see footnote 7 on page 404). Page 402 indicates the power steering fluid specification is Mercon V. Here is a link to the manual; www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/catalog/owner_guides/10f12og3e.pdf Mercon V, and Mercon LV are NOT interchangeable, and should never be mixed. th-cam.com/video/fus_0-GuP1k/w-d-xo.html -Chuck
Thanks I should have done my own due diligence. I’ve done 2 filter and pan oil services with Mercon LV, the fist one at 150k and second 200k. I didn’t know about flushing. Surprising to me there was virtually no debris on magnet and filter at 150 but much more at 200. I’m getting hard downshifts but simultaneously I got a code for tire pressure sensor default and seemed to affect ECM performance (headlights were on during day for 24hrs) then seemed like relearning. So back to the original question which do you prefer Mercon LV or Valvoline LV? I want to rule out trans fluid with a complete flush before scanning for computer for errors. I appreciate your knowledge and comprehensive analysis in your presentations. Facts matter! 👊
@@angrysheepdog9744 “I didn’t know about flushing” No automobile manufacturer has any kind of recommendation for flushing transmission fluid as part of regular preventative maintenance. Usually flushing the system is only performed after catastrophic component damage, overhaul, or replacement, and contamination is suspected. “So back to the original question which do you prefer Mercon LV or Valvoline LV?” Prof. John D. Kelley will answer this question in these two videos; 1.) History Of Ford Mercon ATF; th-cam.com/video/tUzhHVjr08w/w-d-xo.html 2.) Valvoline MaxLife ATF; th-cam.com/video/e47oP5CPLCs/w-d-xo.html “I want to rule out trans fluid with a complete flush before scanning for computer for errors” Before performing scan tool diagnosis confirm & verify correct fluid level. 90% of all transmission shift quality issues are incorrect maintenance, lack of maintenance, incorrect fluid, or incorrect fluid level. If your F-150 had the “standard” 4R75E this video would apply; th-cam.com/video/57ay6uMlbFo/w-d-xo.html Since you have the 6R80 here is what your Owner’s Manual says; Checking 6-speed automatic transmission fluid. The automatic transmission does not have a transmission fluid dipstick. Refer to your scheduled maintenance information for scheduled intervals for fluid checks and changes. Your transmission does not consume fluid. However, the fluid level should be checked if the transmission is not working properly, (i.e., if the transmission slips or shifts slowly) or if you notice some sign of fluid leakage. Transmission fluid should be checked by an authorized dealer. If required, fluid should be added by an authorized dealer. Do not use supplemental transmission fluid additives, treatments or cleaning agents. The use of these materials may affect transmission operation and result in damage to internal transmission components. After you confirm & verify correct fluid level, perform this reset procedure to wipe any learned transmission shift strategies; th-cam.com/video/9CxejeIbGYw/w-d-xo.html Drive the truck like you normally do for a couple days so the PCM / TCM can relearn your driving style, and then perform scan tool diagnosis. Hopefully you have a Bi-Directional scan tool so you can perform actuation tests on shift solenoids, torque converter clutch solenoids, etc. -Chuck
I don't have any hair on my head, but I'd rather have a beard full of transmission fluid instead of gear oil. I recently rebuilt the rear axle on my Nissan Titan and that oil was the worst to deal with. Lots of flushing with diesel to remove the particulate, but nothing can remove that odor.
I'm looking to get my 2007 P71 trans fluid changed. I don't know what fluid is in it now (with 80,000 miles and 3000 IH, I'd imagine its whatever the factory put in it. It looks like it's original too!) So you'd think that's Mercon V. The shop wants to put some universal ATV in it, and Id rather go with a motorcraft Mercon. So I'd recon I'd use a Mercon V, right?
Yo DN, Thanks for stopping in. That is an EXCELLENT question. I made a video just to answer that question. Here you go; th-cam.com/video/57ay6uMlbFo/w-d-xo.html And yes, too much, or too little transmission fluid may cause drivability issues. As little as 8 ounces can make a difference. -Chuck
I am considering using Amsoil Signature Series ATF in my 2008 P71 (Mercon V), anyone with any input on this choice? Please feel free to chime in. If that is not recommended, then I know I will require V, but please let me know if there are any higher quality oil brands that make a V fluid better than Motorcraft.
Yo AF, Thanks for stopping in. According to the Amsoil Signature Series ATF Product Data Sheet the Viscosity Index is 165; amsoilcontent.com/ams/lit/databulletins/g3110.pdf According to the Motorcraft Mercon V Product Data Sheet the Viscosity Index is 205; www.motorcraft.com/content/dam/ford-motorcraft/en_us/motorcraft_global/products/lubricants/Product-Data-Sheet-MERCON-V.pdf If you want the full scoop John Kelly has the best explanation I've found; th-cam.com/video/tUzhHVjr08w/w-d-xo.html - th-cam.com/video/e47oP5CPLCs/w-d-xo.html -Chuck
I am kinda concerned. Does the Castrol lv have the same spec as the motorcraft lv. I have an 09, and I want to make sure the fluid is OK for my transmission
Yo Eric, Thanks for stopping in, and the great question. Here is the Product Data Sheet for Castrol Transmax Mercon LV; msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/45A28A7F657E7A55802587C6004C3041/$File/bpxe-bgxdt9.pdf Here is the Product Data Sheet for Ford Motorcraft Mercon LV; www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/additionalinfo/Product%20Data%20Sheet%20MERCON%20LV.pdf Castrol Viscosity Index: 161 Motorcraft Viscosity Index: 155 -Chuck
I have a question, I have a Ford escape right, so it has motorcraft mercon LV in the tranny, now I want to change my trans fluid since its about time. Can I use the valvoline max life mercon lv, note that it's full synthetic as it says in the labels. The motorcraft mercon LV isn't synthetic right? So now if I do a drain and fill, drain some of the Motorcraft mercon lv and add the valvoline, will it cause any damage to my trans? Can it be mixed together?
Yo Mr. Funk, Thanks for stopping in. According to the Product Data Sheet of the Castrol Transmax Mercon V it says the viscosity index is 192; msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/84C9FA871475BB848025819700811156/$File/transmax%20mercon%20v_467624_2013_12.pdf The viscosity index of OEM Ford Motorcraft Mercon V is 205; www.motorcraft.com/content/dam/ford-motorcraft/en_us/motorcraft_global/products/lubricants/Product-Data-Sheet-MERCON-V.pdf -Chuck
@@MrWontstopthefunk According to the Product Data Sheet for Amsoil ATF the viscosity index is 165; amsoilcontent.com/ams/lit/databulletins/g3110.pdf It's not a question of which is one better. It's a question of which one is correct, and which one is incorrect. This video might help; th-cam.com/video/tUzhHVjr08w/w-d-xo.html
Cool I finally got around to watching this video. Thanks so much for all the info and help with my question Chuck. That teflon tape hack is a good idea, I was worried about that drain plug leaking myself based on the Amazon reviews. Anyway, now I'm paranoid about whether my vic's previous owner might've used LV instead of V in my '08 lol, given that the shop in your case used that "universal" Valvoline. As for price, this looks like a pretty good deal: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JU877WQ But I have to wonder whether it's recycled or bootleg fluid based on some of the reviews and low price. Btw, the Costcos in my area swapped out the polish dog (I liked it more than the beef dog) for vegan options lol.
Right on Mal, I've been meaning to make this video for some time. Thanks for the nudge. What makes you suspect fluid contamination? Are experiencing any issues, or shift quality complaints. -Chuck
Hey Chuck, thanks for the great information, saves us other Panther owners hours of research. I also love that website, (fueleconomy.gov) use it all the time. P.S. working on a starter replacement video for the 02 Grand Marquis. Tony
I find that the Valvoline maxlife seems to last a lot longer than other transmission fluids I've had my transmission fluid from Valvoline in my transmission on my 06 Town Car for about 30 thousand miles and it's absolutely phenomenal
I actually called Valvoline up and I had a conversation with them and I said look what can I use this transmission fluid in and they said what can you not use that transmission fluid in
Somehow they have that fluid engineered to work in almost every single vehicle on the road....it really is multi-vehicle and I don't know how they did it and then they give you like some kind of $2,000 guarantee if done by a dealership or something like that if anything should break because of their fluids
because they know this stuff is serious
Right on Rich,
I really appreciate it when you stop by.
It's nice to get a second opinion from a current Master Tech on the front lines.
This really helps the folks who may stumble accros this video.
-Chuck
Im putting it in a 2011 tucson tomorrow for service. We shall see...
I've changed the transmission fluid on my 99 Town Car, the 03 Grand Marquis, and my dad's 92 Town Car all with Supertech Mercon V.
92 and 99 had an additional drain plug on the torque coverter (accessible behind the rubber cover, then turn the converter until the plug shows up). The 03 didn't have the plug. It lets you drain another 8 or so quarts of transmission fluid.
The 92 has had torque converter shudder for a long time and the 99 developed it within a few months of ownership. Changing all the transmission fluid from pan and torque converter (and installing a new Motorcraft filter) fixed the issue in the 99, but the 92 still does it.
Grand Marquis also developed a shudder before the 3-4 shift with the lockup engaged. I could only change 5 quarts with the pan drop only and this has improved the behavior.
I wish the 03 had a torque converter plug. On the 92 and 99, the fluid out of the torque converter was very brown.
Another method for draining the pan before dropping it is to open the transmission cooler line at the radiator, direct it into a bucket, and run the car until the flow becomes a trickle. I did this on the 03 Grand Marquis but again I only got 5 quarts out between this and the pan drop.
Right on Aharon,
Thanks for the great feedback.
I forgot to mention the color characteristics of the V vs. the LV.
When dealing with V, the color of the fluid may indicate it's dirty, or has been overheated.
However when dealing with LV, it can turn black after only 15,000 miles and this can be normal.
It's just the normal charcteristic of the fluid.
I included a video link in the dexscription form FordTechMakuLoco showing this.
Thanks for reminding me.
-Chuck
@Butler’s Auto DIY
Right on AL,
You are allowed to make new friends on TH-cam.
Just click over to Aharon's channel, intorduce yourself, and get his email.
-Chuck
I'm considering trying the cooler line method ... I saw a video awhile back where someone did it - looked easy... gotta find that video again
@Butler’s Auto DIY I'll have to take a look thank you
I bought my 2010 Grand Marquis with 105k. I assumed the ATF was never changed so I flushed the old stuff out ASAP with Amsoil ATF. I opened up the cooler line and ran the car as I was pouring new stuff through the dipstick tube and watched the light brown fluid turn into a bright red. After that I dropped the pan and confirmed that the ATF and filter were never changed due to the fact that the dipstick plug from the factory was sitting in the pan. I changed the filter for a wix brand from amsoil and put everything back together. That was over a year ago and my car has 130k and the transmission still shifts like new and the fluid still looks brand new too!
Right on CDI,
Thanks for the good feedback.
You wouldn't happen to have any video of that would you?
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform
Unfortunately no but there are some videos of what I did on TH-cam
I've always used Motorcraft and the very first time I did a pan drop at 20k, I used one bottle of Lucas oil stabilizer fully synthetic with Motorcraft filter. I recommend doing a pan drop every 20,000 miles. I'm going to try the Costco discount! I completely forgot about it! You also gave me cravings for their hotdogs and pop Chuck, thanks lol
Right on AC,
Thanks for the good feedback.
One Costco Dog is sometimes not enough.
But two Costco Dogs, and you'll be done for the day. lol
-Chuck
Good tip on drain plug. Dorman 65128 very similar, but has an "O" ring on mini-plug. I will try it on my latest Windstar. Got 412,000 miles out of my first one, and trans was still original and working perfectly when engine finally died. Did trans fluid every 50k miles. It was a great minivan.
Right on HT,
Thanks for watching.
No matter what drain plug kit you choose it sure makes "dropping the pan" a breeze.
No worries about sloshing 4 quarts of fluid all over your face, and arms. lol
-Chuck
Thank you for the video! I wish I watched the part about the Teflon tape before I did mine. It leaked, so I took off the pan again and tried to tighten up the bolts with two wrenches, and ended up breaking the assembly. I then bought pan with a plug the same day, but it was not too bad (
Right on Andrei,
Thanks for the good feedback.
Please understand this is a "car channel".
If we're going to talk about marriage, and women I have a second channel for that. lol
J/k
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform hehe, duly noted, Chuck. I’ll subscribe to that channel too.
I can give my blessings on that Mercon Universal fluid from Valvoline Maxlife because it goes in more than one Trans and if you get it done by a certified professional there's some kind of warranty involved if anything should happen.
It's freaking phenomenal stuff compared to everything else
Right on Rich,
I really appreciate it when you stop by.
It's nice to get a second opinion from a current Master Tech on the front lines.
This really helps the folks who may stumble accros this video.
-Chuck
Omg! That costco savings is sooo worth it! Glad my costco has their Cafe open again!!
Right on DFT,
Oh yeah, but do they have Combo Pizza back? lol
-Chuck
I took the easy way out and bought a trans pan for my 09 vic that had a drain plug already in it. I replaced the whole pan because I'm lazy. 😁
No leaks!
Right on TP,
Thanks for stopping by.
-Chuck
Thanks thanks thanks
I don't have Crown Vic any more, but this this information is very helpful for any other car to know how to chose the proper fluid l
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
Hey Chuck, good timing I dropped the pan and changed transmission filter, and added five quarts of Mercon V (2000 Merc). Last year I bought a Doorman pan with a drain on it. I just drilled a hole in the old pan, and replaced it, was like 30 bucks from Rock Auto. Last year I found the yellow plug thing, that was c9ncering, but the magnet only had a bit of "dust" from last year to now. I am going to try Kendall Versa Trans ATF, made by philips-Conoco who makes Motorcraft oil. By the case it is a great price and is synthetic blend. I use the same hand pump you do, I use it to pump out the power steering and replace the fluids, which for the Merc is also Mercon-V. Thanks for the awesome videos, take care, and keep Pathering
Right on Mike,
Thanks for the great feedback.
I forgot to mention the "Yellow Cracker Jack Prize" floating around in the pan. lol
I have both of mine from both cars.
-Chuck
Great content as always Chuck- thank you. I have a case of Mercon V and a Motorcraft filter ready to go in my '08 Grand Marquis this week.
Right on Mitch,
Thanks for stopping by.
Are you going to install a drain plug while you have the pan off?
-Chuck
Just don't open that bottle of MaxLife in your kitchen or it's gonna be a bad time for about two weeks. When you're done using it outside, put some foil under that cap, tighten cap and go directly to basement. That stuff smells worse than diff fluid and I always thought diff fluid stunk something fierce.
Right on Hollywood.
YOU ARE CORRECT.
The MaxLife does stink.
-Chuck
Ironically HollywoodHornet I'm changing out my diff fluid and cover today and was thinking the same thing diff fluid is the worst and to my amazement the oil manufactures found a way to stink up trans fluid.
They make it stink so animals and prison inmates won't drink it. Some prisoners in my state drank a bunch of anti freeze tryin to get drunk and it kilt them. They'll drink transmission fluid two if they think it'll give em a buzz
I dropped my pan on my 07 Silverado changed the filter filled the amount of fluid that came out the pan drop then after that every few days i pumped my pand dry and refilled it i done that like 10 times and now mt transmission fluid is pretty red looks very clean it cost me a few bucks but i know i have clean fluid in mt transmission now
Good job.
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
How many times of dropping transmission pan fluid will it take to have 100% clean fluid if anyone can figure this out it’s you! You’re definitely my favorite panther guy
Yo Steve,
Thanks for stopping in.
I don't know.
According to Ford the only time you need to flush transmission fluid is when you suspect fluid contamination, (wrong fluid type, rain water, etc.). Or maybe a component failure to flush out debris, or some other circumstance. Under normal conditions changing 4 quarts once a year is more than enough to keep the fluid healthy.
-Chuck
What would be your thoughts on using royal purple transmission ATF synthetic oil ? I’m planning on using it on my 2008 crown Vic. But upon the research information that you do 👍 witch is awesome and follow everything video so..like to know your thoughts on this and research
Right on J,
Thanks for watching, and the great question.
The answer to your question starts at 1:54
Your 2008 Crown Vic calls for Mercon V based on my service literature.
Mercon V is conventional.
Mercon LV is synthetic.
According to the Motorcraft product information sheet V and LV are not interchangeable, and should not be mixed. Use your best judgment.
-Chuck
Classic Chuck! Love it!
Right on Vitaliy,
I found a new metric in my Analytics.
It shows public subscribers who click on a video to just leave a comment, and then close the video.
It's says you are a prime offender.
Btw, Don't go looking for me in your analytics. Lol
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform Sorry Chuck, whenever you start talking fluids, I zone out 🤣
Thanks vid Chuck. Also I'm thinking on using on trying amsoil p.i. performance improver gasoline additive have you used it?
Right on Captain,
I have not, but I've tested these; th-cam.com/video/gb3vVqmbVBU/w-d-xo.html
-Chuck
6:45 "that's what she said"
Your Mensa card has been revoked.
-Chuck
Hi Chuck, interesting video and informative oil prices are nuts they went up when the price of a barrel of oil shot up and never came back down way to stick it to the consumer. My 2000 Town car has the converter drain plug and I would never just drop the pan and change filter and 4 Qts of oil. My reasoning is would you change the oil on your motor but only drain out 2 quarts and put a filter on and add 3 qts of oil? Your contaminating the new with the old. Why the newer cars do not I have a drain plug on the converter, no idea seems like a poor design. I get that people want to save $$ but your already saving a lot of $$ doing it yourself why not spend a few $$ more and get the better quality part or oil. I see it all the time on some of the forums guys buying the cheapest china crap they can for their car when they do the work. Just my two cents on the whole diy maintenance.
Right on Mr. E,
Thanks for the good feedback.
-Chuck
If you use a copper crush washer on the outside of the pan it won't leak. Great vids! how is the Valvoline LV working out for you I have a service interval coming up and thinking to switch.
Thanks for watching.
What is the YEAR / MAKE / MODEL of your car?
-Chuck
I drive a 2010 F150/FX4 (5.4/3v/6R80). My understanding is that Ford recommends switching from Mercon V to LV. Do you agree with that recommendation?
@@angrysheepdog9744
Page 402 of the Owner’s Manual for your 2010 F-150 indicates Mercon LV is the transmission fluid specification, (see footnote 7 on page 404).
Page 402 indicates the power steering fluid specification is Mercon V.
Here is a link to the manual;
www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/catalog/owner_guides/10f12og3e.pdf
Mercon V, and Mercon LV are NOT interchangeable, and should never be mixed.
th-cam.com/video/fus_0-GuP1k/w-d-xo.html
-Chuck
Thanks I should have done my own due diligence. I’ve done 2 filter and pan oil services with Mercon LV, the fist one at 150k and second 200k. I didn’t know about flushing. Surprising to me there was virtually no debris on magnet and filter at 150 but much more at 200. I’m getting hard downshifts but simultaneously I got a code for tire pressure sensor default and seemed to affect ECM performance (headlights were on during day for 24hrs) then seemed like relearning. So back to the original question which do you prefer Mercon LV or Valvoline LV? I want to rule out trans fluid with a complete flush before scanning for computer for errors. I appreciate your knowledge and comprehensive analysis in your presentations. Facts matter! 👊
@@angrysheepdog9744
“I didn’t know about flushing”
No automobile manufacturer has any kind of recommendation for flushing transmission fluid as part of regular preventative maintenance.
Usually flushing the system is only performed after catastrophic component damage, overhaul, or replacement, and contamination is suspected.
“So back to the original question which do you prefer Mercon LV or Valvoline LV?”
Prof. John D. Kelley will answer this question in these two videos;
1.) History Of Ford Mercon ATF; th-cam.com/video/tUzhHVjr08w/w-d-xo.html
2.) Valvoline MaxLife ATF; th-cam.com/video/e47oP5CPLCs/w-d-xo.html
“I want to rule out trans fluid with a complete flush before scanning for computer for errors”
Before performing scan tool diagnosis confirm & verify correct fluid level.
90% of all transmission shift quality issues are incorrect maintenance, lack of maintenance, incorrect fluid, or incorrect fluid level.
If your F-150 had the “standard” 4R75E this video would apply;
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Since you have the 6R80 here is what your Owner’s Manual says;
Checking 6-speed automatic transmission fluid.
The automatic transmission does not have a transmission fluid dipstick.
Refer to your scheduled maintenance information for scheduled
intervals for fluid checks and changes. Your transmission does not
consume fluid.
However, the fluid level should be checked if the transmission is not working properly, (i.e., if the transmission slips or shifts slowly) or if you notice some sign of fluid leakage. Transmission fluid should be checked by an authorized dealer. If
required, fluid should be added by an authorized dealer.
Do not use supplemental transmission fluid additives, treatments or
cleaning agents. The use of these materials may affect transmission
operation and result in damage to internal transmission components.
After you confirm & verify correct fluid level, perform this reset procedure to wipe any learned transmission shift strategies;
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Drive the truck like you normally do for a couple days so the PCM / TCM can relearn your driving style, and then perform scan tool diagnosis.
Hopefully you have a Bi-Directional scan tool so you can perform actuation tests on shift solenoids, torque converter clutch solenoids, etc.
-Chuck
I don't have any hair on my head, but I'd rather have a beard full of transmission fluid instead of gear oil. I recently rebuilt the rear axle on my Nissan Titan and that oil was the worst to deal with. Lots of flushing with diesel to remove the particulate, but nothing can remove that odor.
Right on Death,
Thanks for stopping by.
Have you tried the Walmart Super Tech full synthetic gear oil?
It actually smells fragrant. Lol
-Chuck
I got trans fluid in my eye the first time I changed fluid. Fun times lol
Right on James,
Thanks for stopping in.
-Chuck
I'm looking to get my 2007 P71 trans fluid changed. I don't know what fluid is in it now (with 80,000 miles and 3000 IH, I'd imagine its whatever the factory put in it. It looks like it's original too!) So you'd think that's Mercon V. The shop wants to put some universal ATV in it, and Id rather go with a motorcraft Mercon. So I'd recon I'd use a Mercon V, right?
Right on Weaves,
This should answer your question;
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Skip to the fluid specification chapter.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform Awesome! Thank you! I'll just assume it was Mercon V already in there and bite the bullet on that. Lol
Have you or would you experience any issues with your crown Vic if you added too much transmission fluid
Yo DN,
Thanks for stopping in.
That is an EXCELLENT question.
I made a video just to answer that question.
Here you go; th-cam.com/video/57ay6uMlbFo/w-d-xo.html
And yes, too much, or too little transmission fluid may cause drivability issues. As little as 8 ounces can make a difference.
-Chuck
I am considering using Amsoil Signature Series ATF in my 2008 P71 (Mercon V), anyone with any input on this choice? Please feel free to chime in. If that is not recommended, then I know I will require V, but please let me know if there are any higher quality oil brands that make a V fluid better than Motorcraft.
Yo AF,
Thanks for stopping in.
According to the Amsoil Signature Series ATF Product Data Sheet the Viscosity Index is 165;
amsoilcontent.com/ams/lit/databulletins/g3110.pdf
According to the Motorcraft Mercon V Product Data Sheet the Viscosity Index is 205;
www.motorcraft.com/content/dam/ford-motorcraft/en_us/motorcraft_global/products/lubricants/Product-Data-Sheet-MERCON-V.pdf
If you want the full scoop John Kelly has the best explanation I've found;
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-Chuck
I am kinda concerned. Does the Castrol lv have the same spec as the motorcraft lv. I have an 09, and I want to make sure the fluid is OK for my transmission
Yo Eric,
Thanks for stopping in, and the great question.
Here is the Product Data Sheet for Castrol Transmax Mercon LV;
msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/45A28A7F657E7A55802587C6004C3041/$File/bpxe-bgxdt9.pdf
Here is the Product Data Sheet for Ford Motorcraft Mercon LV;
www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/additionalinfo/Product%20Data%20Sheet%20MERCON%20LV.pdf
Castrol Viscosity Index: 161
Motorcraft Viscosity Index: 155
-Chuck
I have a question, I have a Ford escape right, so it has motorcraft mercon LV in the tranny, now I want to change my trans fluid since its about time. Can I use the valvoline max life mercon lv, note that it's full synthetic as it says in the labels. The motorcraft mercon LV isn't synthetic right? So now if I do a drain and fill, drain some of the Motorcraft mercon lv and add the valvoline, will it cause any damage to my trans? Can it be mixed together?
These might help;
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-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform very good information, but now what about engine oils? Is this the same?
@@justlg3359
This might help;
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-Chuck
How do you feel about the Castrol transmax Mervin v?
Yo Mr. Funk,
Thanks for stopping in.
According to the Product Data Sheet of the Castrol Transmax Mercon V it says the viscosity index is 192;
msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/84C9FA871475BB848025819700811156/$File/transmax%20mercon%20v_467624_2013_12.pdf
The viscosity index of OEM Ford Motorcraft Mercon V is 205;
www.motorcraft.com/content/dam/ford-motorcraft/en_us/motorcraft_global/products/lubricants/Product-Data-Sheet-MERCON-V.pdf
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform thanks for the reply. Is 205 better? How do you feel about the motor craft vs amsoil?
@@MrWontstopthefunk
According to the Product Data Sheet for Amsoil ATF the viscosity index is 165;
amsoilcontent.com/ams/lit/databulletins/g3110.pdf
It's not a question of which is one better.
It's a question of which one is correct, and which one is incorrect.
This video might help;
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Cool I finally got around to watching this video. Thanks so much for all the info and help with my question Chuck.
That teflon tape hack is a good idea, I was worried about that drain plug leaking myself based on the Amazon reviews. Anyway, now I'm paranoid about whether my vic's previous owner might've used LV instead of V in my '08 lol, given that the shop in your case used that "universal" Valvoline.
As for price, this looks like a pretty good deal: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JU877WQ
But I have to wonder whether it's recycled or bootleg fluid based on some of the reviews and low price. Btw, the Costcos in my area swapped out the polish dog (I liked it more than the beef dog) for vegan options lol.
Right on Mal,
I've been meaning to make this video for some time. Thanks for the nudge.
What makes you suspect fluid contamination?
Are experiencing any issues, or shift quality complaints.
-Chuck
Hey Chuck, thanks for the great information, saves us other Panther owners hours of research. I also love that website, (fueleconomy.gov) use it all the time. P.S. working on a starter replacement video for the 02 Grand Marquis.
Tony
Right on Tiger,
Thanks for stopping in.
Both my panthers are still on the original starters. "Fingers crossed". Lol
-Chuck