THANK YOU! I've been trying to understand handicap for years and just gave up. This was the first time someone showed me and put it into terms I could understand.
Wow! I didn’t realize this video was 13 years old. Although I couldn’t see the entire score card, I got the gist of what you were saying. Good explanation. I recently joined a ladies league and this info is quite helpful. Thanks
I've watched several videos and even had people on the course explain scoring to me but I always come away scratching my head. This video explains scoring in a concise and easy to understand way. Thank you!!
Wow... that was a great explanation. All these years of hacking around and never understood how to use the handicap portion of the scorecard. Cheers for this video.
Awesome. Well done. Thank you tons. I've been playing golf for 43 years and love hearing how people like to set up thEir scorecards. I do it this way too. You reaffirmed I've been doing it right.
This is glorious, I've been looking for "lower your golf handicap signs" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Tonayden Senadelyn Remedy - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my mate got excellent success with it.
You did make it ez, one said the opposite of what u said where u made the pops the little black dots he said if it was a par 4 and u shot a double bogey u would get a 7, very confusing. Thanks 👍😃🏌🏼
Thank you so much! I went golfing today and while i was keeping score i noticed the handicap or Men's HCP on the card and instantly became curious about it, becuase i wasn't sure if I needed to keep score diffirently. Without a doubt my mind is set on playing a match type game the next time i play with three people. Oh and I don't have a handicap yet for any course but i generally would consider myself at a 9 but hey thats just me. Im a nine :)
If everybody has a +18 handicap, do you offset the strokes taken off when playing match play? My buddy and I are currently 40+ handicaps while we work to get our 20 rounds of golf in, so we'd have 2-3 dots depending on the hole difficulty. It would be cleaner/easier to score if we shaved off 36 dots but wondering if that's allowed as it wouldn't be as forthcoming about our handicaps (and assume would complicate updating handicap after the round).
Just wonderful, been searching for "lower your golf handicap tickets" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Tonayden Senadelyn Remedy - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my colleague got great success with it.
to calculate one's course hdcp, simply divide the course slope by 113 and multiply by your index. for example, if samantha's index is 16 and she was playing from the red tees, that would be: course hdcp = (119/113)*16 = 17
You almost got it. Divide the slope of the tees you are playing by 113. A course does not have a slope, but each set of tees has a slope. Now maybe someone took the easy way out and did not bother developing a slope for each set of tees, so you have to use what you have....
Many thanks, I've been looking for "lowering your golf handicap" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Tonayden Senadelyn Remedy - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some amazing things about it and my m8 got great results with it.
Some cards for match play are simpler than that. Along the bottom of the card it just has the holes of difficulty in a line. Such as: Stroke: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8............ Hole: 6 4 2 8 7 1 5 3.............. So if player A gets handicapped at 4 they will receive a stroke on holes 6, 4, 2 and 8! If player B is andicapped at 6 they will get the same holes as player A plus holes 7 and 1 on that line etc.
You say that #7 is the hardest hole with a hcp of 1, and #18 is the second most difficult with a hcp of 2. However, the front nine is always odd and the back nine is always even. So isn’t #7 the hardest only on the front nine, and #18 the hardest on the back nine? For example, hole #14 is hcp 8, so the 4th hardest on the back nine, not necessarily the 8th hardest on the entire course. In fact, while the 4th hardest of the back, it could still be harder than the number 1 hcp on the front. I assume this was done to make sure that strokes given in match play are more evenly spread over the course rather than all on a single nine. That was always my understanding. Why else would the front always be odd and the back always be even? Is my understanding wrong?
That's the general rule, but if the back 9 is significantly more difficult it can be assigned odd stroke indexes (as per the USGA Handicapping Appendix E). My club's championship course has it this way.
I thought if you had a handicap of 12 and on one of your handicap holes that you are allowed a stroke you can take it as long as its not par or under. If thats not the case then it does not matter which holes you take them on. If you are a 12 then you would just minus 12 strokes. Why would it mater what holes you get them on?
in stroke play it doesn't matter--you just subtract the 12 strokes at the end. however, in match play the less skilled player gets one stroke on the 12 hardest holes. this makes it more equitable. if this wasn't done, the more skilled player would more than likely win those harder holes, and the match.
i see... i dont like how handicap is calculated. my group doesn't care about winners. we play for fun and try to help each other improve. we dont want to pay the yearly USGA fee to use a handicap and be able to calculate scores differently. so we do stroke play without handicap.
When using handicaps on match play, I have always considered the lowest handicap player (A) to get zero strokes. Then you subtract his handicap from each of the higher handicap player's handicap and use that amount of strokes for each player. in your example 17 -10 gives player B 7 strokes using her hole handicaps. So on his hardest hole, A gets no strokes, but B gets 1. Again in your example, A and B would tie # 7 (handicap 1 for men and women). You do the same thing for player C. Subtract 20 (player C's handicap) from 10 (player A's handicap). Player C gets 10 strokes, starting with his hardest hole. It is really not fair to the higher handicap players to give the lower handicap player the same amount of strokes on the hardest hole. Score it using my method and your method and see who wins the $ playing for 1 $ / hole................. Your way, jim won 6 holes, Samantha won 3 and Josh won 1. Jim won $9. And Samantha won $2 but lost $3. Josh lost $5 + $2. My way jim won 5 holes, Samantha won 3 and Josh won 2. Jim won $5 and Sam won $1 but lost $2. Sorry Josh you lost $7 her way but only $4 my way. Isn't that more fair? Now play for $10 a hole.... even more fair my way, right?
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+M.C. A. Cheers for this, I've been looking for "18 handicap in golf" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Fenavid Handicaper Unleashed - (search on google ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my co-worker got excellent results with it.
This is just superb, been searching for "what is a mid handicapper" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Fenavid Handicaper Unleashed - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some incredible things about it and my colleague got cool results with it.
Ok. My Wife and I just wanna go and have a game of golf. We're not members and we have no handicaps. I guess she can use the closer tees but how will we know how to score? Even tho, I guess we'll work off 28, will she get more shots than that for being female? You're gonna have to excuse the ignorance, as neither of us knows what we're doing. We just fancy a game of golf.
Good explanation, but I think it’s foolish. Your score should be your score. I’m a beginner and I go better myself I don’t need a bunch of free strokes to match my buddy that’s been playing for 10 years.
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Best explanation for keeping score with handicap that I have seen on youtube, even 13 years later!
what a perfect explanation. no extra fluff, just straight to the goods. Nice visuals and commentary. 10/10.
I have looked at several people explaining the handicap and this is by far the best easy explanation. Thank you.
Finally, someone who explained this in a fashion that was able to be understood! Thank you!
Great visuals. Thanks for putting this together and sharing it with us.
Thank you for the information.
Been golfing now for 25 years or so and never understood the handicap system.
THANK YOU! I've been trying to understand handicap for years and just gave up. This was the first time someone showed me and put it into terms I could understand.
Wow! I didn’t realize this video was 13 years old. Although I couldn’t see the entire score card, I got the gist of what you were saying. Good explanation. I recently joined a ladies league and this info is quite helpful. Thanks
I've watched several videos and even had people on the course explain scoring to me but I always come away scratching my head. This video explains scoring in a concise and easy to understand way. Thank you!!
The best explanation I have found thus far. Thank you 🙏
Wow... that was a great explanation. All these years of hacking around and never understood how to use the handicap portion of the scorecard. Cheers for this video.
THANK YOU!! I'm a hack golfer have been trying to figure this out for years. I really appreciate this!!
Great video. Thank you for taking the time to create it. It was clear and well made.
Very helpful & well explained. Can you explain the handicap versus the index?
OMG!! FINALLY, SOMEONE EXPLAINED THIS TO ME!! I'M SO GRATEFUL!! BTW, I never type in all caps, but I just had to this time because this was awesome!
Awesome. Well done. Thank you tons. I've been playing golf for 43 years and love hearing how people like to set up thEir scorecards. I do it this way too. You reaffirmed I've been doing it right.
This is glorious, I've been looking for "lower your golf handicap signs" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Tonayden Senadelyn Remedy - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my mate got excellent success with it.
100% best explanation I've seen! Thank you!
Very simple, clear and helpful, nice job!
Beats the crap out of the usga sites explanation. Thank you!
You must be a School teacher
Simple to the point easy to understand
I walked away with knowledge
well.. that was easier than I thought. thank you!
Great easy to understand explanation thank you
Very clear and well explained. Bravo !
Thanks you . Very well explained
Excellent explanation
What a great explanation and the presentation is awesome
Excellent video! Now I know how to apply a handicap on a stroke play….
Finally someone explains the handicap scoring so that I don't have to have quantum physics in my background.
Thank you.
Great job and presentation. Thank you!
This was well done Thank you
This was tremendously helpful. Thank you!!
Thank you, very nice video and very nice explanation. I appreciate it 🙂
Do the slope ratings for seniors reflect the same as the women’s tees?
Excellent! Thank you!
Superb explanation. Thank you.
Good job. Good visuals.
Thanks, Gurlz.
Very easy to understand, thanks!
Very helpful! Thanks so much for posting this.
You did make it ez, one said the opposite of what u said where u made the pops the little black dots he said if it was a par 4 and u shot a double bogey u would get a 7, very confusing. Thanks 👍😃🏌🏼
Thank you so much! I went golfing today and while i was keeping score i noticed the handicap or Men's HCP on the card and instantly became curious about it, becuase i wasn't sure if I needed to keep score diffirently. Without a doubt my mind is set on playing a match type game the next time i play with three people. Oh and I don't have a handicap yet for any course but i generally would consider myself at a 9 but hey thats just me. Im a nine :)
If everybody has a +18 handicap, do you offset the strokes taken off when playing match play? My buddy and I are currently 40+ handicaps while we work to get our 20 rounds of golf in, so we'd have 2-3 dots depending on the hole difficulty. It would be cleaner/easier to score if we shaved off 36 dots but wondering if that's allowed as it wouldn't be as forthcoming about our handicaps (and assume would complicate updating handicap after the round).
Very helpful, thank you!
Just wonderful, been searching for "lower your golf handicap tickets" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Tonayden Senadelyn Remedy - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my colleague got great success with it.
Cheers for that, very helpful.
Thank you so much for this!!!!!
Best explanation on youtube
to calculate one's course hdcp, simply divide the course slope by 113 and multiply by your index. for example, if samantha's index is 16 and she was playing from the red tees, that would be:
course hdcp = (119/113)*16 = 17
You almost got it. Divide the slope of the tees you are playing by 113. A course does not have a slope, but each set of tees has a slope. Now maybe someone took the easy way out and did not bother developing a slope for each set of tees, so you have to use what you have....
Yes, very helpful.
Many thanks, I've been looking for "lowering your golf handicap" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Tonayden Senadelyn Remedy - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some amazing things about it and my m8 got great results with it.
Very clear, thank you!
thanks, now i understood score card better.
very helpful thank you
yes very helpful i am new to the scga i have a 21.7 handicap so when i log my handicap do i put my score befor my handicap
Some cards for match play are simpler than that. Along the bottom of the card it just has the holes of difficulty in a line. Such as:
Stroke: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8............
Hole: 6 4 2 8 7 1 5 3..............
So if player A gets handicapped at 4 they will receive a stroke on holes 6, 4, 2 and 8! If player B is andicapped at 6 they will get the same holes as player A plus holes 7 and 1 on that line etc.
You will never find a legitimate course where odd and even stroke indexes are distributed on a single 9 as per your example.
You say that #7 is the hardest hole with a hcp of 1, and #18 is the second most difficult with a hcp of 2. However, the front nine is always odd and the back nine is always even. So isn’t #7 the hardest only on the front nine, and #18 the hardest on the back nine? For example, hole #14 is hcp 8, so the 4th hardest on the back nine, not necessarily the 8th hardest on the entire course. In fact, while the 4th hardest of the back, it could still be harder than the number 1 hcp on the front. I assume this was done to make sure that strokes given in match play are more evenly spread over the course rather than all on a single nine. That was always my understanding. Why else would the front always be odd and the back always be even? Is my understanding wrong?
That's the general rule, but if the back 9 is significantly more difficult it can be assigned odd stroke indexes (as per the USGA Handicapping Appendix E). My club's championship course has it this way.
really helpful
I thought if you had a handicap of 12 and on one of your handicap holes that you are allowed a stroke you can take it as long as its not par or under. If thats not the case then it does not matter which holes you take them on. If you are a 12 then you would just minus 12 strokes. Why would it mater what holes you get them on?
in stroke play it doesn't matter--you just subtract the 12 strokes at the end. however, in match play the less skilled player gets one stroke on the 12 hardest holes. this makes it more equitable. if this wasn't done, the more skilled player would more than likely win those harder holes, and the match.
Jeff, You are correct. But in her example they all got strokes on the hardest hole.
My index is 1
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Why don't you just work of the 10... and just mark the other players getting strokes?
I think you did match play wrong.
i see... i dont like how handicap is calculated. my group doesn't care about winners. we play for fun and try to help each other improve.
we dont want to pay the yearly USGA fee to use a handicap and be able to calculate scores differently. so we do stroke play without handicap.
When using handicaps on match play, I have always considered the lowest handicap player (A) to get zero strokes. Then you subtract his handicap from each of the higher handicap player's handicap and use that amount of strokes for each player. in your example 17 -10 gives player B 7 strokes using her hole handicaps. So on his hardest hole, A gets no strokes, but B gets 1. Again in your example, A and B would tie # 7 (handicap 1 for men and women). You do the same thing for player C. Subtract 20 (player C's handicap) from 10 (player A's handicap). Player C gets 10 strokes, starting with his hardest hole. It is really not fair to the higher handicap players to give the lower handicap player the same amount of strokes on the hardest hole. Score it using my method and your method and see who wins the $ playing for 1 $ / hole................. Your way, jim won 6 holes, Samantha won 3 and Josh won 1. Jim won $9. And Samantha won $2 but lost $3. Josh lost $5 + $2. My way jim won 5 holes, Samantha won 3 and Josh won 2. Jim won $5 and Sam won $1 but lost $2. Sorry Josh you lost $7 her way but only $4 my way. Isn't that more fair? Now play for $10 a hole.... even more fair my way, right?
That's the way I've always known. Set the lowest handicap to zero subtract his handicap from the rest. Far easier to keep track of strokes.
This was great, I've been looking for "get a golf handicap uk" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Fenavid Handicaper Unleashed - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my mate got amazing success with it.
+M.C. A. Cheers for this, I've been looking for "18 handicap in golf" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Fenavid Handicaper Unleashed - (search on google ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my co-worker got excellent results with it.
This is just superb, been searching for "what is a mid handicapper" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Fenavid Handicaper Unleashed - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some incredible things about it and my colleague got cool results with it.
Ok. My Wife and I just wanna go and have a game of golf. We're not members and we have no handicaps. I guess she can use the closer tees but how will we know how to score? Even tho, I guess we'll work off 28, will she get more shots than that for being female? You're gonna have to excuse the ignorance, as neither of us knows what we're doing. We just fancy a game of golf.
Good explanation, but I think it’s foolish. Your score should be your score. I’m a beginner and I go better myself I don’t need a bunch of free strokes to match my buddy that’s been playing for 10 years.
im the only one in my foursome that has a handicap do i keep mine on a different card?
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Thank you for posting .
Very helpful!!