Chinese Leather Shoe Patcher - How to solve the problems!
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- In this video I go through common issues like top/bottom tension, and needle rod height. I start with a perfectly working machine and make adjustments to mess it all up! showing how it will affect the stitching.
I also talk really slow, so play back at 1.25 speed if you are in a rush!
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Only someone who has been battling with one of these sewing machines to the point of being sorry to have bought one will know how great a video you have produced. I had the common problem of thread breakage and bobbin alignment and never in a thousand years would have thought the issue was position of the needle shaft! Great job! I'll be looking you up when the next problem arises.
I second this. These machines have more settings than a table. I thought I knew them all until he lowered the needle shaft.
The first thing anyone should do after purchasing one of these time bandits is to spend a few hours watching Hightower at mainly acres. He goes through everything in detail, as well as how to file and polish certain parts.
Adjusting the needle height is not a guessing game. Place the machine in the fully down position, then put a finger over the hole in the bottom and adjust the rod height so you can just barely feel the tip of the needle coming through, then tighten the set screw up top.
If you run the machine with your finger over the bottom hole again, you should be able to barely sense that the needle point is touching your finger.
Best troubleshooting video for these issues I’ve seen so far. Thanks
Super helpful! I’m just figuring out the tension on my machine too and it’s great to have the causes and symptoms shown in your video. Great diagnostic tool. Thanks!!
I appreciate this video! I've had my machine for about 5 years, and when I got it there were almost no videos like this online. I had to experiment to get it going, but it still isn't working as as smooth as I would like. This week has been extremely frustrating because I'm making a belt for a client and the thread keeps breaking. I have no idea why and I feel like my only option is to take the machine apart completely (as explained by Harrison Hightower), or give up on it and buy a $3000 machine. I even made a plexiglass cover so I could see the bobbin working to try and figure out why the thread was braking and still couldn't get the answer.
I had no idea about that adjustment at the top of the shaft you showed here. I really appreciate that!
3 years later and this video was a great introduction to the machine. Just picked one up due to skill tree's video. Your video rounded out the use of it. Thank you.
I was literally going to sell that thing because of loose threads didn’t know what to do until i ran into this video accidentally! thank you
Thank you so very much for this tutorial. I’ve seen hours of videos on this machine but not a single one covers thread tensions like this. Running it repeatedly through the same material and thread while individually adjusting top and bottom tensions really helped things “sink in” for me. The process seems less “magical” now. Showing the results of each adjustment made it make sense. You have a talent for explaining things and it shows in this video.
Thanks, I started by just loosening the lower thread tension on the side all the way out (did not use the upper at all) and tested it. Way too loose, leaving loops on the stitch of the top thread. Tightened the thread tension down first 5 turns then 3 more and finally a total of ten and the stitching was tight but still the upper thread was visible on the bottom, not pulling the bobbin thread tight enough. I loosened the bobbin tension a bit until the thread pulled out of the bobbin more easily. Worked! The stitch is tight and the threads meet in the middle of the leather as should happen. You got to balance the tensions. Thanks for taking the time and helping out this newbie to the Chinese machine.
I have watched dozens of videos on this patcher and haven't seen one that describes my problem.
I think you hit it! I am getting loops in the top stitch, I have tried all the tensioning tricks to no avail I will now try adjusting the needle rod a bit shorter as you showed~~~ Thank You, Thank You!!
This video was really eye-opening. Before, tensioning was just voodoo or trial and error to me. Now, I actually understand how it works. Thank you.
Omg I stopped paying any attention to what you were saying as soon as I saw that cute, adorable, sweet little kitten 😆
Very well demo’d. I understand why you can adjust the tension so much and still have a “decent” stitch. I’ve been sewing vinyl recently, total thickness maybe 1/32”. Wow, the tension is really finicky, because if it isn’t perfect, you can see that thread off center. But with thick material, it can be off center, but still within the layers, and you don’t see it, as long as it isn’t way off. As long as the overall tension is pretty good, the stitches will be tight, but not too tight.
What’s interesting is that one guy says that the left hand hole in the shuttle (from the top) is the lower tension one, but you say the opposite. I’ve been doing it the way he’s recommended it. But now I’ve tried it your way, and well, it works better.
Nice shoes, great stitching. It’s nice to see that this cheap machine can do so well when someone who understands it uses it.
You’re awesome!! I was finally able to get a solid stitch. I needed to adjust the rod. Thank you so much!!!
Camera falls down, and a kitten 🐈 appears.
Coincidence?
Cuuuuuuute😻😻
Damn, everything I needed in one video! Beautiful work you’re doing
Firstly, I watch almost everything at 2x speed so didn't even notice you talking slow ;)
secondly, and more importantly, I'd love to see more on cobbling footwear, or some reference material on cobling specific to this machine.
I recently learned about these machines and have been soaking up as much info as I can about them, thus far I'm confident in my mechanical knowledge of them, but it's the use I'm not super confidant about, my machine should be here at some point next week, and I'm super excited!
I got more useful info from you then anyone else so thank you. I have been trying to figure out why my thread was breaking and everyone kept telling me my time was off in the wheel and cams but all it was was the rod height was too tall so thank you
You have been a great help on my tension problems. Thanks for the video
Thank you! I found your video when everything was threaded properly, but the stitch wouldn't "connect". Tightened bobbin and 1st tension wheel. Voila! My stitches will be hidden, but I still fine tuned them using your tips. You saved one sewing machine from the dumpster! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Good God man,thank you so much for making this vid..i got one,been having same issue..too loose. I've got a saddle bag purse to make. Now thanks to you I can have beautiful stitches. Thanks man.
What a great looking job you are doing on the boots!
Nice explanations and demonstrations!
I just wasted 10 yards of thread just for that one little tip about the piston joint. My machine was working fine at first then started Fraying the thread after two stitches. That would then snap the thread. I changed out the needle, bobbin the cradle, and polished everything again. There was just a little bit of give in my connector so it moved just a mm. All it took to mess it up. So glad I found this video . I knew I was missing something simple.
Thank you! got mine put together yesterday, and it was giving me fits until I watched this.
HOLY CRAP the rod length problem is my issue. THANK YOU!!!!!!
WOW WEE!!! Finally, a guy that uses his machine for shoes!! Nice job on the shes by the way
Thank you for sharing this !!! I’m trying to sew nylon on my machine, what an experience ! 😅
Perfect vid man,thank for this. Now I know what's wrong with mine. This is a time saving vid.
Great video thanks now I know what to look for when I get one of these machines
Wow, those shoes look awesome!
Excellent! Thank you so much for this!
Great video thanks I will be testing out some of the adjustments you made on mine
For som reason the top stitch is loose sticking up an 8th inch bottom
Stitches look great
valuable video, bonus kitty footage always a good thing lol
Thanks man, this was super helpful!
Great tips thanks for sharing
I just wanted to add; on mine I ordered some knurled thumb screws to replace the adjusting nuts, and I really like that.
Wing nuts baby!
this is helpful. Thank you.
Very, very informative video, appreciate you taking the time to do it. I'm having an issue that I'm hoping you can help me with. The lower thread is bunching up considerably not only between the bottom of leather and the table, it's also bunching up inside the compartment where the bobbin is located. Pardon my improper part names.
Thank you - well done
Great help, thanks
Great video thanks. I'm hoping that the tension is why my thread keeps breaking, and if it is, perhaps you have just provided the answer.
and just like that, he solved all my problems
Awesome video
Great job
Thanks for the help
Cool ! Making your own shoes that's bad ass!
What I found is that black thread that comes with the machine; is that the top stitch adjustment has to be real tight for it to sew properly. I just got my machine this week and still experimenting.
I spent about 16 hours trying to get this machine to work before giving up and returning it. It seems like most of the machines being shipped are just garbage and cannot be made to work no matter what. Mine had some sharp metal burrs deep inside the needle well that kept cutting my thread and it wasn’t possible to reach it with a file or any other tool. I’m surprised they even sell these machines anymore with so many returns.
I have heard that to check the proper needle height,put your finger over the hole where the needle would come out if it came down to far. Correctly adjusted you should just be able to feel the needle point but it should not draw blood. Seems to work.
If you file down the teeth on the pressure foot, and lighten up the spring tension on the foot, then it won't leave marks on the top side of the leather. You can also use some liquid tool handle coating on it.
Hope you do more videos on shoe making. I am starting to get into it. Did you use a shoe last fore making these boots. Also do you stitch the sole to the welt with this machine?
Thanks for the video, it really helped! Those shoes look really good by the way, do you have any books or resources you'd reccomend on making learher shoes? Keep up the great work!
I've done all you have said in trouble shooting and it's still giving me issues sometimes it will sew grate for about 4 inches then the top string frays and brakes sometimes
Thank you
Do you have to change any settings if you want to sew different thicknesses of leather? Is it possible to change thickness mid-stitch and have things go smoothly?
Cool 👍 respect
Thank you for your content. Is there a maximum thickness this machine can handle? I ordered one for knife sheaths. I need to sew 3 layers of 6 to 7oz leather.
This was a great video. You're the first video that I've watched that mentioned adjusting the thread/needle tube, and I've watched quite a few.
Do you recall where you got the thread stand you used at the back of the machine?
First Thank you for such info noticed that your machine when is sewing you don't have to use lots of arm strength ,what can i do to my Machine to run like your , any adjustment that you did ,thanks Mike in advanced.
Thanks for this video ,Im having a problem my machine keeps breaking needles Any idea.thanks in advance
Hi I have one of these machines and was wonder were you can get a new needle bar?
Awesome video. Im having issues galore right now. My machine is new and ive done all the smoothing to parts and adjusting the height tube and timing of the bobbin however! My needles are snapping and the bottom thread from the bobbin is bunching up like crazy! My too thread snaps after two stitches then the wheel to sew gets stuck because of tangled thread... Thoughts? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ive read maybe my thread is to thick for the needle? I am using 130/21 needles with 277 T207 840D poly thread. Could that be the issue? Thread size is to thick?
Is there anyway to adjust the presser foot for thinner materials. I'm planning on making pleather purses and the presser foot isn't low enough to make cont and move the pleather.
would like to see you make a pair of shoes. thank you for the video
I need to make boots too
Thanks for the video. I need HELP! My walking foot doesn't walk.
The upside down U shaped piece barely moves left and right. So I followed that part to the other end, to the base. That arm has very little space from the end to the base. Also, one of those rotating levers at the base doesn't even press against that arm which is part of the U shaped piece. It's like the machine is damaged or I put it together wrong. Are both of these levers supposed to touch a metal arm?
Awesome
Hey there! I’m a little late
“coming to show”, and have been contemplating buying one of these patchers. Wondering if you think this is a worthwhile purchase??
Thanks.
Do you have the pattern for those shoes? I want to make a pair like them.
Have you ever ran some thick thread like 207 or 277 with your machine
When I got this thing it wasn't picking up thread or anything & now looks as if both threads are loose but I got top & bottom threads tight as they can be. & comes out loose as anything. Please help!
Do you no what the fishing line type of stuff that come in bobbing of machine? And do u need use or can you use others? Thanks
I never used that stuff. I just use whatever colour I want. I have been using the upholstery thread in this video with good results
Does this machine stitch outsoles or know of any similar machine that is budget friendly like this machine? Thanks in advance.
Pretty helpful, thanks. But my bobbin is not really feeding the bottom thread threw the bobbin cover plate. In result of that, I am unable to sew. Do you have any idea why this is so? I would be very grateful if there is any idea what to do or change in order to get my mashine working properly.
Thanks again.
I filed down the inside of the bobbin shuttle and the edges of the bobbin so it had some wiggle and spun freely inside the shuttle. I had the same issue.
Hi, very helpful video! How do you treat the marks left by presser foot on both sides of the seams?
I filed down the teeth a little bit to make them smoother
@@mikeanderson2000 Good to know. I did the same. But now I figured out another way. I wrapped each side of the foot with fabric plasters. It doesn’t move on semi/shine leather but does good on grainy leather😊
i cut the slot so the screw adjustment for the foot can go higher without digging in
@@shellysun5348 Plasti-dip or shrink-tubing works pretty good to!
Thread bunching underneath fabric and getting stuck? Anyone knows why?
👍👍👍!!!
What thickness of thread are you using and what size of needle?
My bobbin shuttle didn't even come with the tension arm. Both of them.
I don't know shit from Shinola, but I have stumbled my around sewing machines a few times.
No one has ever even eluded to this, but is the goal of a great stitch to have the knot form between your two pieces?
Hey the needle isn’t attaching to the bottom thread on the bobbin is there something I’ve done wrong and a way I can fix this ?
I'm having the same problem, did you figure it out?
I’ve had mine for 2 years and still haven’t gotten it to work right! Anyone near Pittsburgh Pa. with one?
Hello can you tell me how to fix this I keep getting humps in my stitches
Any way to make the foot not press down so hard so it doesn’t leave track marks? Mine came really sharp and I took some of the edge off but it’s still printing pretty heavy into the leather.
Put a piece of heat shrink on the foot. Worked for my machine.
I used a file and smoothed out the teeth a bit, there is also and adjustment to change the pressure. There is definitely videos on TH-cam about how to do that. Good luck!
I get clumps of thread on the bottom stitching.. maybe I'm not threading the bottom right.
can you please provide the link where you purchased the Chinese Leather Shoe Patcher? Thank you
the link doesn't exist anymore. it was just off ebay. $120 canadian in 2019
What size needles do you use ??? thanks
It works perfect on thin leather but, won't sew slightly thicker leather. why? HELP PLEASE
Okay I need someone to answer me. I have a machine and my walking foot stopped walking I now have to push the leather forward and on my shoe patcher my thread tests work good then they cause a birds nest on the bottom in undoing it found it’s the top thread not tight enough I’ve done your whole little by little tightening and I can’t get a solid stitch it will start solid then work into a birds nest or just break.
Check the little bolt that adjusts the walking foot/stitch length. Make sure it hasn’t come loose on you.
Lyle Kirkwood- I have purchased a chinese shoe patch sewing machine whereby I cannot get the needle to be in alighnment with bobbin hole. I have tried everything with no results. Please adivise as shown on your video.
Did you figure it out?
I'm wondering if you know where to purchase extra bobbins for that machine. Please share a link.
Thanks for the videos
bantam saddle and tack
I found their website. www.bantamsaddletack.com
Thank you!
@@videotracx "Mainely acres" does videos for this machine. i got the website from them, so ur welcome, but i got the website link from them.
hi mine has only got 1 thread tensioner and i got mine april 2020, so some have had one removed cheers
How do you avoid those deep presser foot marks on the top side?
Try some plastic dip coating on the presser foot or heat shrink tubing
I used heat shrink tubing on mines and it helps against foot markings
will it sew 1/4 leather for pistol holster
It should.
Good day. I hope someone can help me. My needle doesn't go into the hole but hits the metal so that after a few stitches the needle breaks. Can I adjust this myself or is my device defective? So far I haven't seen where I could change that. -> All needles pierce against the metal and the rod to which the needle is attached cannot do anything by turning either. I would be grateful for any message.
Did you fix it? You can adjust the length of the bottom arm to get the hole to line up with the needle.
I bought my machine 2 years ago. One day it stopped stitching properly. The thread is looping very badly on the top AND bottom. No matter how much I adjust the tension in the bobbin or top stitch it does nothing. It’s been months and I have not been able to figure out why and no videos on TH-cam have helped
If somebody could PLEASE let me know what the hell is going on it’d be greatly appreciated
Does anyone in Atlanta have this?
I can't go 3 rotations without my thread popping. After watching a million videos I'm convinced my machine is defective
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