About that "you can actually buy"... Nope, several of those can't be bought for any amount of money. The Harley isn't even in production yet (if ever), the Brammo is already history, the LS218 is such low production and high price that it can't be considered attainable, and so on. The only bike that is currently available internationally for an attainable price, has been in sufficient production for long enough to actually be available, is street legal and has decent performance and range is the Zero. But the Zero's major failing is lack of support for fast charging, and the available option is far too expensive and too slow. 2 hours is a lot better than 9, but it's not fast enough for real touring when the real-world highway range is barely 100 miles. (I have one.) We're still waiting for the Tesla of motorcycles to show up.
Mark Haury the Harley will be available fall 2019 and has been seen on Road in Wisconsin. You gave no clue what you're talking about. The Livewire is not vapor ware.
I know I'm 6 months in the future relative to your comment, but the Harley is entering production this year. It has a 140 mile range, full charge overnight with household outlets or 80% in 40 minutes and 100% in an hour for "level 3 public fast chargers", and it hits 60mph in 3 seconds. It is gonna be around $30K, though.
How do they make these bikes start off with low amount of torque without it flipping over as soon as you engage the throttle? Do they work by the slower you twist the throttle the slower & less power they have at initial take off?
Zero is the only one worth a damn here. Long range, comfortable enough to hit that range, the fastest on the list (aside from the LS 218) and, aside from the empulsa tt, it is the cheapest on the list. Even decked out with an extra battery and a second charge cable it still costs under 20k for their top of the line dsr. While most of these are 50k-100k depending on how you want it. All the bukes on this list aside from the LS and the Zero aren't even worth mentioning.
I bought my Brammo Empulse R in 2013 and it's an awesome bike. I chose it over the Zero due to it's 6-speed manual transmission, chain drive (not belt) and compatibility with public chargers. Sadly, Brammo was sold to Victory, renamed the Empulse TT and unfortunately the model was discontinued in 2017.
Doesn't matter when most of the models mentioned either are not available to buy or aren't street legal. And one is just a motorized bicycle, not a real motorcycle. This video is just click bait.
Reasons to give this video a thumbs dow, none of these bikes are attainable, either too costly, not available in the states, the companies only have a prototype available.
Different opinions on the best looking one. The thumbnail HD Livewire is awesome! The section with the cruisers at the end had beautiful bikes to beat it as well. But beautiful bike means different bikes to others. Great video!
They are all still unaffordable. Need to get them down to regular motorcycle prices like $5000 for a Kawasaki 400 cc bike. Then, they'll sell and sell well.
You are correct. But I’m not even gonna tell you how much the batteries cost you won’t believe me. I mean you won’t believe me. A friend of mine has a zero with a dead battery. I am not gonna tell you how much the battery is you’ll have to find that out for yourself, but you will not believe how expensive they are. You will not believe it
I thought maybe I'd like the lightning because it was the fastest, the video said nothing of the milage or charge time. The Victory right before looks like a good choice with over 200 mile range. Harly Davidson has a good iconic style, Im sure they're gonna sell quite a few rides.
a ktm freeride250 would ve cost me 8k.. i bought a zero fx for 10k with no maintanance and more range and its silent so better for me .. oh its also much faster and powerfull.. the only thing .. i cant jump the hell out of it ... thats true ..
Why buy these bikes when a Yamaha 115hp SXR900 sells for $9000 and can be refilled in 30 seconds for $15 of fuel after a 150 mile ride? A 1 hour recharge after a 100 mile ride would get annoying very fast. E-Bikes should cost half the price of gas bikes not the same or more.
Although you could technically say and electric motorcycle has an engine, it is far and wide accepted that we use the term motor. It makes me wonder if you really know much about that which you speak.
I've been soldering together little gadgets out of 1.5V hobby motors since I was 8 years old. Trust me I know the difference between combustion and magnetic fields. Got mixed up when multitasking during the voiceover and wasn't thinking.
The electric motors are often air or liquid cooled only because they aren't meant to for this hard use its essentially being pushed to its limits and therefore should be looked into more
Forgot to include the Evoke Urban S & Evoke Urban Classic. 19kW of power, 200km of range per charge; sub $10k USD price point. www.evokemotorcycles.com
Nathan Siy You wouldn’t happen to be the CEO and founder of evoke motorcycles would you? Let me borrow one for a few weeks and I’ll make a kick ass video on it
Too bad about the Redshift. It's going to take the Big Four to change motocross culture by sporting their own electric models that are competitive. I think one of the biggest selling points of e-motocross is the ability to ride/race them in built up urban areas without complaint.
lots of motobikes are bought around 15 to 20k ...charching is mostly done at night like your phone and range is already at your choice and can be well above 200miles
dont forget used electrics are coming to market .. my 10k bike is worth like 4k now still is fast and solid .. and i will keep it for next 10 years .. but i mean prices drop fast due to improvement .. dont by e bikes from before 2014 .. or if you like electrics its all good ..
The Lito Sora costs around 82k... yeh you can buy it... if you have a bunch of money burning a hole in your pocket. Why not tell the bikes prices? That would nice. Also, you didn’t talk about the Volt Tacama... the best looking bike if the bunch.
Dude, only 50 miles on that Harley? I did 2600 miles in four days, I mean, even 200 miles between charges would allow me to stop off for food and get a recharge in (depending on how long that takes and electrical availability). Oi... That said, if ALL my riding were in the city, I guess that'd work... but I don't picture Harley badassery translating well to the new power platform. The old guard ain't gonna like the quiet, or the short range; the kids ain't gonna like the price tag, I can almost guarantee it... Not sure who that product is for?
Good video but in the world of electric bikes these are not bikes the average person can afford. In addition none of these bikes include removable batteries, a clear must today.
so its almost there actually ... zev m series or zev lrc will do this exept little longer charging .. but charging is done while sleeping anyways .. its a different way of driving .. maybe not for you .. but ... you ll find out ..
Interesting in a novelty way. But not practical for what I need. When me and my friends go for a ride, it’s not uncommon for us to do 200 to 500 miles in one day.. I want to take my wife with me a lot of times. You need to carry your rain suit your tire repair kit water, jacket liner,ect.. I need locking bags and a faring. I don’t need fast, I need practical... 120 mile range is not good enough. That means you can only ride away from home 60 miles, and you have to turn around and go back home to charge your motorcycle batteries. We don’t even stop for breakfast until we have at least 50 miles behind us usually. That means we’d have to go home after breakfast on a motorcycle with only 100 to 120 miles of range. It’s interesting that they’re developing these electric bikes, and I’m sure the range will grow.. but I think coast to coast travel is pretty much out of the question with one of these novelty electric bikes. I have a friend that has a zero, he says, one good thing is, he can’t ride the bike long enough for it to hurt his ass ...But it is interesting, it’s just not for me
Gas motors are like using a horse today. When a battery's goes 800 miles on a charge and then 1200 miles someday. Like the computer revolution in recent years, there will be no going back. Cars will last 500, 000 miles, motorcycles 300,000 miles someday in the near future.
Toolmaker you’re an idiot, jet engines are far more advanced and superior, electric power still has over 100 hundred years of development to get where jet engines are now
Not even my gas engine has as much power as some of this bikes, but the good thing is I can go 500 miles without gassing up, and I can refuel in 7 minutes.
Simon Jones are you serious? How much toxin can a motor bike make? Then don’t use electricity or cut the yard or buy food from stores, because you don’t know if they are using “ toxic” fumes to power their machines. I hope you are also driving an electric car, because gas cars are a death sentence to the earth.
they have almost infinite more power than gasbikes .. so they need no gearboxes .. the fastest electric motobike accellerates 0-65 under 1 second .. an electric motor is much more effective than an ice
More bad ideas, May make a good sunny day toy for some people on their way to Starbucks for a Wheat grass juice, but no true Bike person will put up with them.
Why buy these bikes when a Yamaha 115hp SXR900 sells for $9000 and can be refilled in 30 seconds for $15 of fuel after a 150 mile ride? A 1 hour recharge after a 100 mile ride would get annoying very fast. E-Bikes should cost half the price of gas bikes not the same or more.
on top of that, the victory empulse tt hasn't been for sale since the start of 2017, victory bought up Brammo, but it didn't work out sales wise, so sadly they just abandoned the project :(
I'm not a traditionalist, if it works better / more efficiently, I like it more. At this point combustion powered motorcycles are still better machines than electric, but this will change in the near future guaranteed.
you probably never drove a fast electric bike ... i have one .. and the acceleration is a blast .. the smoothnes is master ..and it being silent makes it possible to ride at places and times normaly not possible .. i ride a zero fxs
gmy33 I drove an electric motorcross and having a loud motor is more savely because car drivers will hear you even though they dont see you . And I want to have a loud real sound and not feel like a honeybee with the electric sound .
great !!!! let me be the honeybee who has infinitely more tork and power thand your weak machine ..whilst i m sniping through the night where non of you screamers ever could go ...peace .....
Tell me when they make one that goes 80-100 mph for 100 miles for under $/£/€5000
Technology has to catch up and more ppl will have to buy for them to lower in price.
DID HE JUST SAY “”JUST”” UNDER 15k
HE REALLY FUCKING SAID *JUST* UNDER 15K. BRO TF!?
@@arjankurti6291 lighten up francis
he means just under meaning something like 14990
are you serious rn? do you not know that expression?
For some that's affordable. For others (like me), not so much. All a matter of perspective.
About that "you can actually buy"... Nope, several of those can't be bought for any amount of money. The Harley isn't even in production yet (if ever), the Brammo is already history, the LS218 is such low production and high price that it can't be considered attainable, and so on.
The only bike that is currently available internationally for an attainable price, has been in sufficient production for long enough to actually be available, is street legal and has decent performance and range is the Zero. But the Zero's major failing is lack of support for fast charging, and the available option is far too expensive and too slow. 2 hours is a lot better than 9, but it's not fast enough for real touring when the real-world highway range is barely 100 miles. (I have one.)
We're still waiting for the Tesla of motorcycles to show up.
Mark Haury the Harley will be available fall 2019 and has been seen on Road in Wisconsin. You gave no clue what you're talking about. The Livewire is not vapor ware.
I know I'm 6 months in the future relative to your comment, but the Harley is entering production this year. It has a 140 mile range, full charge overnight with household outlets or 80% in 40 minutes and 100% in an hour for "level 3 public fast chargers", and it hits 60mph in 3 seconds. It is gonna be around $30K, though.
Not Important To You actually it's available for purchase right now. It wasn't Vapor Ware after all. Now, will it make it??
@@haywoodjablome234 Knowing Harley, it'll have a $20,000+ price tag.
Wait, the Johammer costs $26K and can only manage 0-60 in over eight seconds? That is a total joke!!!
How do they make these bikes start off with low amount of torque without it flipping over as soon as you engage the throttle? Do they work by the slower you twist the throttle the slower & less power they have at initial take off?
Zero is the only one worth a damn here. Long range, comfortable enough to hit that range, the fastest on the list (aside from the LS 218) and, aside from the empulsa tt, it is the cheapest on the list. Even decked out with an extra battery and a second charge cable it still costs under 20k for their top of the line dsr. While most of these are 50k-100k depending on how you want it. All the bukes on this list aside from the LS and the Zero aren't even worth mentioning.
Wait and see. Energia will change the market.
I bought my Brammo Empulse R in 2013 and it's an awesome bike. I chose it over the Zero due to it's 6-speed manual transmission, chain drive (not belt) and compatibility with public chargers. Sadly, Brammo was sold to Victory, renamed the Empulse TT and unfortunately the model was discontinued in 2017.
specs - price, range. need useful details.
Doesn't matter when most of the models mentioned either are not available to buy or aren't street legal. And one is just a motorized bicycle, not a real motorcycle. This video is just click bait.
Jay Leno is next to 1,must be real
Nice.. Really really nice💯
Reasons to give this video a thumbs dow, none of these bikes are attainable, either too costly, not available in the states, the companies only have a prototype available.
Jay Leno is next to 1,must be available
not for long travels, though i wonder about solar charging and motel charging
Different opinions on the best looking one. The thumbnail HD Livewire is awesome! The section with the cruisers at the end had beautiful bikes to beat it as well. But beautiful bike means different bikes to others. Great video!
Can you do a series on H2 bikes. These are far more useful as the refuel time is the same or faster than current ICE equipment
It's called a motor not an engine!
258 HP motorcycle by Chip Yates and the LS 218 are my favs
Which one can charge at home?
Hey would be nice you put prices up of those motorcycles please !
4:35 "Aloominum"? What the hell is that? In nearly 4 decades of working in engineering, I've never come across that!
that's how the real world says it
AWESOME like your concept
They are all still unaffordable. Need to get them down to regular motorcycle prices like $5000 for a Kawasaki 400 cc bike. Then, they'll sell and sell well.
You are correct. But I’m not even gonna tell you how much the batteries cost you won’t believe me. I mean you won’t believe me. A friend of mine has a zero with a dead battery. I am not gonna tell you how much the battery is you’ll have to find that out for yourself, but you will not believe how expensive they are. You will not believe it
I don't give a shit. The Alta is out of business and Zero doesn't sell.
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Y’all should come to Canada Ottawa cause the electric motors are 590 and 770 and the dirt bikes are 464 and 773 and all you need to do is order it
But how much is the Lito Sora?
*Maybe you didn't say because we can't afford it?*
Which is the bike in the vdo thumbnail
I had a Bull mastiff named Brutus, he was so cool, just like this Brutus.
I thought maybe I'd like the lightning because it was the fastest, the video said nothing of the milage or charge time. The Victory right before looks like a good choice with over 200 mile range. Harly Davidson has a good iconic style, Im sure they're gonna sell quite a few rides.
Zero FXS. Not the fastest, but tons of fun wheelie-ing around the city.
Oh yeah, it's awesome. EV zone approved
Zero sr is one of the bikes with the most range per charge
How’s the bike catching speed on the highway?
Electric Motorcycles have improved allot in 3 years (especially Energica).
a ktm freeride250 would ve cost me 8k.. i bought a zero fx for 10k with no maintanance and more range and its silent so better for me .. oh its also much faster and powerfull.. the only thing .. i cant jump the hell out of it ... thats true ..
They do have a chain conversion kit so you can jump the hell out of it without snapping the belt
I like the TT model and the LS 218 the most
You can also hear them breath on a GoPro. I’m not so sure quiet is a good thing on such a small thing that can’t save you
where can you buy these..actually?
That Lito Saurus thing is hideous! Best looking, no way.
Here at boom moto we have a competitive bike under 10k that we can't wait for people to get on.
Why buy these bikes when a Yamaha 115hp SXR900 sells for $9000 and can be refilled in 30 seconds for $15 of fuel after a 150 mile ride?
A 1 hour recharge after a 100 mile ride would get annoying very fast. E-Bikes should cost half the price of gas bikes not the same or more.
Thank you for good video
Your the vidéo ive been lookin for
Zero sR is available in India...???
Please mention metric units too
I like to shift gears and I love the sound of a big pipe! 😁
Super Formel für in der Stadt......Wo rennen Sie vor mir........?
Although you could technically say and electric motorcycle has an engine, it is far and wide accepted that we use the term motor. It makes me wonder if you really know much about that which you speak.
I've been soldering together little gadgets out of 1.5V hobby motors since I was 8 years old. Trust me I know the difference between combustion and magnetic fields. Got mixed up when multitasking during the voiceover and wasn't thinking.
Noisy rumble is music to my ears
Poisonous toxic petrol and diesel fumes are deadly to my lungs.
Just curious how they sound.
Is there any e bike that has atleast 1000 km range?
Is there any gas bike that does?
@@thorstambaugh1520 Offcourse there are smaller single cylinder bikes that can travel 1000 km.
Yes and there are tiny scooters that do the same lol
This is future !
The actual speed for the 218 is not 216 it goes exactly 218 mph
The last one had a k&n filter??
The electric motors are often air or liquid cooled only because they aren't meant to for this hard use its essentially being pushed to its limits and therefore should be looked into more
Forgot to include the Evoke Urban S & Evoke Urban Classic. 19kW of power, 200km of range per charge; sub $10k USD price point. www.evokemotorcycles.com
Nathan Siy You wouldn’t happen to be the CEO and founder of evoke motorcycles would you? Let me borrow one for a few weeks and I’ll make a kick ass video on it
Yep, that'd be me. Whereabouts are you located?
South Florida
Too bad about the Redshift. It's going to take the Big Four to change motocross culture by sporting their own electric models that are competitive. I think one of the biggest selling points of e-motocross is the ability to ride/race them in built up urban areas without complaint.
Does it have a electric motor that makes a vroom vroom sound, if not better make one.
Check out UBCO 2x2 not super fast but unique
Pwede kaya lagyan ng dynamo yan para habang tumatakbo ang bike eh marecharge ang battery.
Like alternator!!
The new Muscular Zero looks as nice as the Harley EV. The Zero specs are already way better than the new Harley and much cheaper.
Recharge times and range are the only thing holding back these bikes....ok 🤔 maybe those ridiculous prices too 😱
and the naughty sound is a miss to...
lots of motobikes are bought around 15 to 20k ...charching is mostly done at night like your phone and range is already at your choice and can be well above 200miles
WICKEDLEE LOOPY se
WICKEDLEE LOOPY true. I'm thinking of getting a gas bike for my first motorcycle.
dont forget used electrics are coming to market .. my 10k bike is worth like 4k now still is fast and solid .. and i will keep it for next 10 years .. but i mean prices drop fast due to improvement .. dont by e bikes from before 2014 .. or if you like electrics its all good ..
Do u need license for electric motor bikes
Yes indeed a license
"10 Fastest Electric Motorcycles You Can Actually Buy" The Base Model is £77.000 -_-
We didn't say you can afford them
"You Can Actually Buy" Who can ?
Zero fxs is 12000€ , most expensive one round 20000€.
Not cheap but not as expensive as you re 77000.
And an lighting LS218 is 40 to 45000$
HD Live Wire... 50 mile ride time? ... that blows
The Lito Sora costs around 82k... yeh you can buy it... if you have a bunch of money burning a hole in your pocket.
Why not tell the bikes prices? That would nice.
Also, you didn’t talk about the Volt Tacama... the best looking bike if the bunch.
Fast and quick are two different words for a reason lol
Dude, only 50 miles on that Harley? I did 2600 miles in four days, I mean, even 200 miles between charges would allow me to stop off for food and get a recharge in (depending on how long that takes and electrical availability). Oi...
That said, if ALL my riding were in the city, I guess that'd work... but I don't picture Harley badassery translating well to the new power platform. The old guard ain't gonna like the quiet, or the short range; the kids ain't gonna like the price tag, I can almost guarantee it... Not sure who that product is for?
That's hilarious going to "power station " plugin and wait three hours to move forward. Now that's progress.
30 min (0-85% Soc) Mode 4 Dc Fast Charge
3.5 h (0-100% Soc) Mode 2 or 3 Charge
Polluting the atmosphere , now that,s backward .
They have supercharger stations that can charge it in like 30 minutes
My 125cc 2stroke is olso 40 horsepower
0-100km/h in sec?
Good video but in the world of electric bikes these are not bikes the average person can afford. In addition none of these bikes include removable batteries, a clear must today.
Just build one yourself.. That's what we are doing here in Singapore man. Most of this are just.. Sigh
Show us bike under $1500 ? 15,000 is way too far from me
Hey, I'm EV zone. I look for best EV content on yt, I added your video to my playlist, but you didn't feature the best bikes
where is the Saroléa......?
If I want to enjoy the sounds of wind and nature on two wheels, I'd just ride my bicycle. Just saying.
Me too but electric motorcycles are the future (as far as motorcycles go).
I'll keep my Thruxton 1200 until you come up with a 150+ mile range at 90mph and a recharge of less that 15 minute, then I'm in.
so its almost there actually ... zev m series or zev lrc will do this exept little longer charging .. but charging is done while sleeping anyways .. its a different way of driving .. maybe not for you .. but ... you ll find out ..
ray wite ... cya in 20 years then
Absolutely, they'll be perfect by then.
The most expensive zero (16-20K) can go 200 miles with a 3 hour charge time...really not that far off.
Getting close but they are still having to charge very high prices to pay for the research. I'll be glad then it's around 10-11K US. Great concept.
I would have one if the price wasn't nearly twice as much as the petrol equivalent.
And I thought my moped was cool.
It was cooler than these things.
Range , charge time and price is what let's them down
Interesting in a novelty way. But not practical for what I need. When me and my friends go for a ride, it’s not uncommon for us to do 200 to 500 miles in one day.. I want to take my wife with me a lot of times. You need to carry your rain suit your tire repair kit water, jacket liner,ect.. I need locking bags and a faring. I don’t need fast, I need practical... 120 mile range is not good enough. That means you can only ride away from home 60 miles, and you have to turn around and go back home to charge your motorcycle batteries. We don’t even stop for breakfast until we have at least 50 miles behind us usually. That means we’d have to go home after breakfast on a motorcycle with only 100 to 120 miles of range.
It’s interesting that they’re developing these electric bikes, and I’m sure the range will grow.. but I think coast to coast travel is pretty much out of the question with one of these novelty electric bikes.
I have a friend that has a zero, he says, one good thing is, he can’t ride the bike long enough for it to hurt his ass
...But it is interesting, it’s just not for me
Is it gonna be just like a real Harley and still drip oil?
Prices.......
Gas motors are like using a horse today. When a battery's goes 800 miles on a charge and then 1200 miles someday. Like the computer revolution in recent years, there will be no going back. Cars will last 500, 000 miles, motorcycles 300,000 miles someday in the near future.
Toolmaker you’re an idiot, jet engines are far more advanced and superior, electric power still has over 100 hundred years of development to get where jet engines are now
So cool
The Alta don't exist anymore..nu. Of these are affordable..10 years in and still can't be affordable
Not even my gas engine has as much power as some of this bikes, but the good thing is I can go 500 miles without gassing up, and I can refuel in 7 minutes.
The bad thing is...you are pumping out deadly toxic fumes that harms people's health.
Simon Jones are you serious? How much toxin can a motor bike make? Then don’t use electricity or cut the yard or buy food from stores, because you don’t know if they are using “ toxic” fumes to power their machines. I hope you are also driving an electric car, because gas cars are a death sentence to the earth.
What about using the metric system that +95% of the world's population uses?
EMFLUX,REVOLT,ATHER,and bike coming the line from india
SHOW THE PLUGS PLEASE.
i thought livewire is not for sale? its predator.
come to nepal and buy "yatri" electric motorcycle. not a fastest bike but most beautiful yet affordable bike
Does they have gears?
Nassiem Al-sheikh Nope thats the boring part and they sound shit and you feel no motor when your riding
they have almost infinite more power than gasbikes .. so they need no gearboxes .. the fastest electric motobike accellerates 0-65 under 1 second .. an electric motor is much more effective than an ice
Lorenzo #1
Ugh... Typical anti technology guy,just use bicycle you lazy ass
LS218 👌
These are conveyance power tools. Let's hope Ryobi does not make one.
they need to make them a bit heavier and better looking
So none of these can actually be used for transportation. they only last 1-3 hours.
More bad ideas, May make a good sunny day toy for some people on their way to Starbucks for a Wheat grass juice, but no true Bike person will put up with them.
and any person actually interested in bikes would tell you you're full of shit lol
People have had enough of the deadly toxic fumes of petrol and diesel.
He said that you can actually buy meant it is not a concept
Why buy these bikes when a Yamaha 115hp SXR900 sells for $9000 and can be refilled in 30 seconds for $15 of fuel after a 150 mile ride?
A 1 hour recharge after a 100 mile ride would get annoying very fast. E-Bikes should cost half the price of gas bikes not the same or more.
Where can I buy an electric powerplant? I need 100kw.
Electric motorcycles are so far behind electric cars at this moment in time.
yea but they can filter to the front
Not for long travel, only for city ride.
these are so wrong, ''Supermoto'' Why not just a KTM freeride?
freeride e is nice .. zro fxs is super .. redshift is wild !!!!
1 day our children's children's children's will say - look at that bike was running with fuel called petrol wooooow
the title of the video is electric motorcicles you can but, you can't buy the live Wire, is not yet for sale or pre-sale!!!
on top of that, the victory empulse tt hasn't been for sale since the start of 2017, victory bought up Brammo, but it didn't work out sales wise, so sadly they just abandoned the project :(
Ill buy one when they can go 500 miles on a charge and can plug in anywhere with a 1 hr charge time
I want the sound and feeling of my motor . Having no clutch etc. is boring
I'm not a traditionalist, if it works better / more efficiently, I like it more. At this point combustion powered motorcycles are still better machines than electric, but this will change in the near future guaranteed.
you probably never drove a fast electric bike ... i have one .. and the acceleration is a blast .. the smoothnes is master ..and it being silent makes it possible to ride at places and times normaly not possible .. i ride a zero fxs
gmy33 I drove an electric motorcross and having a loud motor is more savely because car drivers will hear you even though they dont see you . And I want to have a loud real sound and not feel like a honeybee with the electric sound .
great !!!! let me be the honeybee who has infinitely more tork and power thand your weak machine ..whilst i m sniping through the night where non of you screamers ever could go ...peace .....
gmy33 I never want to be a honeybee peace out
Johammer J1 = Vespa and Shrek had a child