How Electronic Hearing Protection Works: It's Not What You Think

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  • In this video, I explain the difference between noise cancelling and electronic hearing protection. I show how each works and why electronic hearing protection can't be noise cancelling.
    Peltor 300's: www.amazon.com/Peltor-Tactica...
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  • @DYang01
    @DYang01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Can't believe after so many years, this is still the only video that disusses electronic ear pro in detail. Companies should be explaining how their own products work with more than just 1-2 sentences in their product description, especially with something as important as hearing protection. Curious to see if the new wave of electronic in ear ear pro works the same.

    • @Seablack66
      @Seablack66 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Could not agree more. After suffering damage (although minimal it seems, thankfully) at an indoor range using subpar protection, Ive seen and researched about every video out there. I was skeptical about electronic ear pro as a result but this finally explains it in a way that makes sense. Only video I've found that even seems to bother trying, and its 6 years old now. Pretty wild.

  • @shubh.jain1990
    @shubh.jain1990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    its the only video on net...I found about hearing protections working explanation...thank you !!

    • @tvbuu
      @tvbuu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup I was looking for one too

    • @shubh.jain1990
      @shubh.jain1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tvbuu hehe cool !!

    • @johannlangner289
      @johannlangner289 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, I looked all over. Thanks for the video!

  • @kdawg1080
    @kdawg1080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Thank you!!! Finally I found someone who explains this in an understandable way. Now I feel more confident that I am not at risk of overexposure to loud noises should the electronics fail.

  • @Siberianhuskypuppy
    @Siberianhuskypuppy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I assumed electronic hearing protection was safe when shooting but I couldn’t comprehend how it worked. You did a very good job. Thank you.

  • @hhighway72
    @hhighway72 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Outstanding presentation. Thank you.

  • @prayertool
    @prayertool 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I am new to this market. Your video explained in minutes what I have spent hours trying to understand. Thank you sir

  • @Christina_the_Astonishing
    @Christina_the_Astonishing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for explaining this so well! I'm a newbie and the range attendant suggested I get electronic ear muffs. I didn't expect to be able to hear sounds so I was really confused when I first tried them on! I haven't used them at the range yet but now I know what to expect! Thanks!

  • @bryancctx
    @bryancctx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Very thorough explanation. Thank you.

  • @heathermurray-miller3778
    @heathermurray-miller3778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a great video with not just the logic but the physics involved explained to us. FINALLY i understand the basic tenants of what to look for for more protection from the loud gunshot noises.

  • @boogaboo1909
    @boogaboo1909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video. You answered a question I hadn’t thought of, and I’m really glad I came across this.

  • @prsgirl1179
    @prsgirl1179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for making this video. I now understand the difference between the two. Makes so much more sense to me now.

  • @replacesoundboard
    @replacesoundboard ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like how TH-cam keeps suggesting this video to remind me to protect my ears when I go to the range.

  • @marcelo6707
    @marcelo6707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Outstanding video, I really enjoy this type of content. I like knowing how different technologies work, great job.

  • @thewrightstuff6174
    @thewrightstuff6174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool video, very well explained. Thank you so much, I have tinnitus and always look for the best protection. Great job.

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was very good, very informative as I haven't been to the range yet but now I know what to expect when I get there as it pertains to my headphones. Thank you very much!

  • @roypaulcarter4654
    @roypaulcarter4654 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you brother that was very helpful.

  • @oo-by2tj
    @oo-by2tj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you .great video .

  • @MrSharpsh00ter
    @MrSharpsh00ter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks man!!! this is exactly what I wanted to know.

  • @Wondrrboy
    @Wondrrboy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for making this video. I was wondering about that.

    • @korbano
      @korbano  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad I could help!

  • @MetalAndStoneYouTube
    @MetalAndStoneYouTube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done and illustrated my good sir. Appreciate the informative content

  • @stephenjohnston6623
    @stephenjohnston6623 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well explained indeed. Well done.

  • @tomfred008
    @tomfred008 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this valuable information!

  • @a1sloth1
    @a1sloth1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the explanation! EXCELLENT!

  • @ray_c_yuen
    @ray_c_yuen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanation of the difference systems. One thing I would like to see is a dummy head with microphones where the ears are located. Then you could put the active headphones on to demonstrate loud sounds being muffled.

  • @78tag
    @78tag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sure that you straightened out a huge misconception by the general public in the way these different headsets stop (or not) the sound entering the ear. I think I would have mentioned how the DB rating isn't a direct ratio so it would be clear just how much difference just a few DB rating makes. (even 22 to 26 is a lot) Great job.

  • @eugenegreen9295
    @eugenegreen9295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice explanation!

  • @irazt
    @irazt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation man! Loved the vid

  • @williambarron2968
    @williambarron2968 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Exactly what I needed to find great information

  • @kfrahber5550
    @kfrahber5550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much, this video is really helpful

  • @00HiGhGuY00
    @00HiGhGuY00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    So basically it comes down to BS marketing. There is actually no "electronic hearing protection" all the "protection" is just passive... No different than non electronic earmuffs. The electronics, just allow quieter sounds, like your range buddy talking to you, to bypass the passive hearing protection.

    • @korbano
      @korbano  4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I wouldn’t really call it BS since it doesn’t claim that the electronics add protection. But yes, the electronics are just to hear your buddy talking to you at the range and otherwise they’re regular earmuffs. Personally that’s a feature I want but to each their own

    • @00HiGhGuY00
      @00HiGhGuY00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's not a useful feature. It's just that by calling it what they do, it makes you think that they are like noise cancelling headphones.

    • @meh6513
      @meh6513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well earmuffs are passive but very useless in practical purposes unless you go to gun ranges because when your home gets invaded you'll most likely scramble for the gun and start looking for intruder while electronic ear muffs solve this problem by letting you hear what is being said around you and let you wear it all the time and when the sounds get loud then the loud sounds can be either compressed or cut off sound feedback when the loud sounds are registered in the computer. Thus electronic hearing protection is clearly different and clearly better

    • @colt5189
      @colt5189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@korbano I've read of some noise cancelling earmuffs where they put opposite waves in your ears to neutralize outside sides that get in. I'm still researching these. It makes me think that type may be quieter since it's helping to neutralize the outside soundwaves.

    • @Wingzero90939
      @Wingzero90939 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@colt5189 Yeah I’m not really sure about this whole topic it’s still a bit confusing because on the higher end earmuffs the electronics have to do something. What about all those guys work on an aircraft carrier… Or the guys you see who guide in the Jets for landing they all have earmuffs clearly a jet is louder than a gun so what they have has to do something to help cancel out the sound.

  • @NorroTaku
    @NorroTaku 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome explanation
    i wondered if one can be used instead of the other

  • @jobourque6137
    @jobourque6137 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great explanation.

  • @michaeldyaeger
    @michaeldyaeger 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation!

  • @jacobs4866
    @jacobs4866 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good explanation.

  • @raycot3479
    @raycot3479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a great explanation, thanks a lot!

  • @leonardomatheus1888
    @leonardomatheus1888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video, i always wondered if it was the eletronics that reduced the noise

  • @toddpellerin1477
    @toddpellerin1477 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation ! Thanks !

  • @jamesferrantino5294
    @jamesferrantino5294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video. Thank you.

  • @rhino3334
    @rhino3334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learnt a lot from your video thank you.

  • @peterxyz3541
    @peterxyz3541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info. I can’t find any active protection over 24dB. I find passive “cup of plastic” upward of 27dB. I found claims.....claims of upward of 34dB (untested, unverified by 3rd party) being sold on Ama and eBa stores. I’m looking to add silicon pads to any hearing protection I’ll buy. Currently, I use the foam plugs or use the harbour freight 5.00 specials...cheap but effective.

  • @WailOfDoom
    @WailOfDoom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, awesome stuff.

  • @earlyblackmz
    @earlyblackmz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation! 👍

  • @stephensvoboda7412
    @stephensvoboda7412 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks! very helpful.

  • @Ian-we2pq
    @Ian-we2pq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!! Been considering electronic muffs for aviation work :)

  • @alext4124
    @alext4124 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Job...

  • @funnymakerboy4199
    @funnymakerboy4199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank so much it help me lot

  • @JHR78
    @JHR78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You saved me from going to the range in Noise cancelling headphones thinking I was the man... This video was amazingly helpful. Thank you

    • @korbano
      @korbano  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What? Going to the range with this ammo shortage? Glad I could help

  • @robertderomo8187
    @robertderomo8187 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    GREAT JOB..

  • @WeekendOverland
    @WeekendOverland ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent discussion. I have used electronic hearing protection for years when training with firearms and have recently decided to start wearing protection while using other equipment that exceed 85 db. Wasn't sure how the noise cancelling headphone worked in comparison until now. Great job! BTW, not sure if this is correct but I learned on another video that the rating on electronic ear protection is not a one for one in db. There is a formula that is used to calculate the actual db reduction which sounds crazy, which results in a lot less reduction than you would think.

    • @korbano
      @korbano  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s absolutely correct. NRR is based on a single frequency that is not in the frequency range of firearms. Also different materials block certain frequencies better than others. For example the MSA Sordins have an NRR of 19dB but in the frequency of rifles, shotguns, and pistols, they reduce by around 27dB because the material they used blocks the frequency of firearms blasts better than the frequency that NRR is measured at. NRR is basically worthless

    • @WeekendOverland
      @WeekendOverland ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@korbano thanks again for the info. Do you have a specific product for ear protection (with bluetooth) that you recommend for use other than firearms?

    • @DanMaverick22
      @DanMaverick22 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@WeekendOverlandI would like to know too

  • @eliascamacho
    @eliascamacho 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you!

  • @wadepatton2433
    @wadepatton2433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh but the noise cancelling phones are so good and killing the noises of cities and aircraft. Nice video, take care of your ears, tinnitus gets boring after 20 or so years of it. Concerts and other live music, loud music, power equipment, hot rods, and gunshots ruined my ears a long time ago. I now wear hearing protection at every opportunity to keep them from ringing worse. The ringing is constant (but variable), and then it gets really loud, for a while after exposure to loud sounds. I don't leave home without hearing protection.

  • @thomasschoon8407
    @thomasschoon8407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crystal clear in fact! The only problem I have is that I have a set of Walker 'passive' sound reduction ear muffs that reduce the sound level by 34 decibels, when looking for active sound protection, I fear I'm not going to find any with the sound reduction level without wearing ear plugs, near the decibel rating of the Walker 'passive' sound reduction model or earmuffs that I have now. Especially for shooting rifles in doors.

    • @korbano
      @korbano  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I understand your concern. I shoot indoors with a muzzle brake and NRR 24 works pretty well for me. You could wear foam earplugs underneath and turn up the volume, but it seems doubling up only adds 5 dB extra. Probably because the sound travels through your skull somewhat too.

    • @thomasschoon8407
      @thomasschoon8407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@korbano:Oh yes I'm acutely aware of this potential problem, it's called the mastoid bone, a kind of rigid sponge-like bone with closed-cell type membranes immediately behind each ear. I had an instructor at the State Police Academy for several different courses and the main boot camp type course that had to be successfully completed before you could be certified as a police officer in the state, who suffered almost total deafness in his ears from doing different type of shotgun 'trick shots', if you will, with the shotgun on his shoulders and the muzzle of course very close to his ear, and over a period of years this bone apparently hardened enough that it couldn't vibrate like it was supposed to, and he became almost deaf, requiring hearing aids later in life, in both ears to hear adequately. This is what I want to avoid. I don't shoot like that, plus he was of the old school and used only empty brass pistol cases as his ear protection. The only practical problem with ear muffs for me is that sometimes they do not allow a proper cheek weld on a rifle stock. But the proper and appropriate priority is protecting my hearing so I will find something appropriate.

  • @replacesoundboard
    @replacesoundboard ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always wondered if electronic hearing protection worked the same way as noise cancelling. It made me think, like: "does it mean it cancels the loud noise into a very loud blank noise?"
    I think you pretty much answered my question: it's not cancelling the noise out. It's just that the muffs are isolating your ears from the outside, so the only way for the sound to enter is through the speaker.
    Thanks.

    • @replacesoundboard
      @replacesoundboard ปีที่แล้ว

      So the only way to "not hear anything" would be to wear a spacesuit with a "vacuum layer". Otherwise, the sound wave still travels through your skull into your ears. But that's just not practical.

  • @0Myles0
    @0Myles0 ปีที่แล้ว

    well done!

  • @balazsm8896
    @balazsm8896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @sjfell
    @sjfell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for the explanation confirming my thoughts on ear pro. I shoot rimfire, however there is always one or more 5.56mm surrounding me on the firing line. I'm currently using ear muffs with 23 NRR, but want more to protect my hearing from the high powers rifles at the range. So Im looking for electronic earmuffs with more than 23NRR.

  • @jyang6695
    @jyang6695 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally someone explain this topic very well. Thank you Budget ,good job!

  • @jasoncox7874
    @jasoncox7874 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Is there Active noise cancelling and electronic hearing protection together in one headset?

  • @nathanmitchell7961
    @nathanmitchell7961 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW dude amazing

  • @Maxime-ho9iv
    @Maxime-ho9iv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think there is a BIG counterpoint to this video: most people think the electronic hearing protection is actually doing more than the regular (passive) ones. In practice I have yet to come to an electronic hearing protection that protects the same as the very good passive ones. Of to double protection, which is foam + muff.
    So to say that you are not in danger wearing an electronic hearing protection is a bit misleading. Yes the actual electronic is not creating any MORE risk BUT you may actually have a weaker hearing protection just because the protection rating is lower and the amplification is tricking you to think the sound is lower when it goes off.

  • @44daggers44
    @44daggers44 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, exactly the info I was looking for. Thank you. Liked and Subbed. I got a question if you don’t mind? Do noise cancelling headphones actually protect the ear drum? I’m wondering maybe because the sound wave isn’t lessened, just it’s opposite is played to ‘cancel’ the sound felt on the ear drum, maybe it’s like the eardrum is still being hit but just on both sides so the sound isn’t heard but the drum is still taking impact (if that makes sense)?

    • @replacesoundboard
      @replacesoundboard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Noise cancelling doesn't protect. Your ears would hear "blank" noise if it could cancel very loud noises

  • @strawberryhaze8836
    @strawberryhaze8836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! Which kind should I buy to protect me from loud (90db) high bass hip hop music they play at my work?

  • @cryptopunk7736
    @cryptopunk7736 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi could you use electronic headphones for noises in apartment buildings, door etc?

  • @user-rt9ml7yr8f
    @user-rt9ml7yr8f 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey in one of ur comments you mentioned that u felt the peltors were a bit better than howard leights, jw which peltor and howrd models u were talking about

  • @marincapital2586
    @marincapital2586 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an excellent explanation. Thank you very much for your video. It is exactly what I’ve been looking for. In your opinion what is the best way to protect my ears from gunshots? I shoot a rifle

    • @korbano
      @korbano  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Peltor Tactical 300’s are great for outdoors with rifles. It works well indoors too but add the foam earplugs underneath for a little more protection

  • @oakley_in_awe
    @oakley_in_awe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved your video. You seem to be the expert, so I'm asking a question! I am working in a loud office space with lots of people on calls and talking. I am needing as much silence as I can get! What would you recommend for me? A lot of the noise reduction earmuffs seem to amplify ambient sounds - the sounds I want to silence... Is there an option to silence everything?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re looking for noise canceling headphones. I like AirPods Pro which work well with iPhone or Galaxy Buds for Android. Look for ones that advertise “noise canceling”. Now they’re not perfect at canceling out 100% of sounds but they make things very quiet. Especially if you play some music quietly through them

    • @oakley_in_awe
      @oakley_in_awe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for your response! I've been quite hesitant to use noise cancelling headphones because they come with apps that sell your personal data... But I'll keep looking :) @@korbano

  • @aksddd4385
    @aksddd4385 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greaaaaaat video. Very informative. Keep it up dude

  • @argoman9025
    @argoman9025 ปีที่แล้ว

    why is it that recon 70 turtleeach headphones on pc make it wehere i have to talk into ear muff as a mic when the actual mic itself doesnt wrok but when i plug it into playstion it works completly fine?

  • @ugandaknuckles590
    @ugandaknuckles590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do I use against thunder storms ?

  • @timgurr1876
    @timgurr1876 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I’m trying to reduce noise from my zero turn riding lawn mower where the engine is directly behind me and there is not any shielding around the engine to reduce noise levels. I purchased noise reduction (passive) ear muffs with NRR 25 dB. However, I can still hear low tones that are loud and tend to induce headaches after long exposure. I don’t have any noise meters to understand the decibel levels or the frequencies of the sound. The low tones are only present when the blades are engaged. I am wondering if the noise I am hearing is due to a low frequency vibration generated by the blades passing through air at a high velocity, since the low tones become louder the faster the blades turn.
    What materials help attenuate (reduce) the passing of sound frequencies and what materials are better for lower to higher frequencies? Thanks.
    Your explanation of the electronic noise reduction is great in theory, but the earmuff themselves are not a soundproof barrier. Even if the materials that reduce sound in the earmuffs are sound proof, the seal around the ears is not air tight and allows sound to pass through. So would it make sense to have noise cancelling earbuds covered with just standard noise reduction electronic or regular sound reduction earmuffs to further reduce noise reaching the eardrums?

    • @replacesoundboard
      @replacesoundboard ปีที่แล้ว

      When purchasing hearing protection, you can look for an attenuation table which shows the effectiveness over a wide range of frequencies, or you could ask for it if you're purchasing online. Some muffs work really well on medium to high frequencies but offer little protection in the low ranges (which is to be expected when they're not thick enough).
      You can also double up the muffs with in-ear protection (which work better for low frequencies). You'd just have to be careful when removing them to not damage your ears with the suction effect.

  • @zehnmoriarty3228
    @zehnmoriarty3228 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this has been a long time ago but would passive earmuffs like Walker’s Razor Slim would suffice in an indoor gun range?

    • @replacesoundboard
      @replacesoundboard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Depends what calibre you expect to shoot or expect people to shoot, as well as the room echo treatment, and how much you value your hearing. Personally, even 9 mm indoor is super loud where I go, so I always go with as much protection as I can (muffs doubled with plugs).
      Watch out for self-certified NRR though. Earmuffs that go waaay above 30 dB are dubious.

  • @kurama567
    @kurama567 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry late to the party, thank you for the very useful info. I'm hard of hearing and own a pair of BT(behind the ear) with over 75% loss. How well this gun range ear muff/electronic muff will work on me? I was aiming towards electronic muff due to sound amplifies surround area such as voice which is plus for me that way I don't need to wear a hearing aid( I hope I don't). The problem is most ear muff inlay not deep enough to cover my ear with hearing aid otherwise when it's too close to hearing aid it whistles. Second I once went to gun range a long time ago through a friend. and my ear was ringing for a week any sulotion?

  • @Chipwhitley274
    @Chipwhitley274 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is my understanding that an NRR rating isn't a direct decibel reduction... you subtract 7 and then divide by two... so a 22 nrr is only a 7.5 decibel reduction. So the 150 decibel gunshot would only be reduced to 142.5.
    If I am not mistaken... that makes the hearing protection practically useless.

    • @korbano
      @korbano  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      NRR is also based on frequency, not just decibels. So while a set of earmuffs claims a NRR 22, the actual decibel reduction depends on frequency too. For example the MSA Siordins cost like $300 and only claim NRR 19 which doesn’t sound very good. But at the frequency of a rifle shot, the actual decibel reduction is more like 27-30 decibels. I don’t know what the actual reduction of the Peltors is but from experience, it provides an adequate amount of protection for rifles indoor and is plenty good protection for rifles outdoors. Hope this helps

  • @voidegames4832
    @voidegames4832 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have little doubt, If you could answer, how's the sound quality of those earmuff models with a Jack imput, like, they're good to hearing music ? I know there are better equipment tô hearing music, but im really curious, Nice video btw

    • @korbano
      @korbano  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They don’t sound very good. Any cheap pair of earbuds would sound much better

  • @PlayerAfricanChieften
    @PlayerAfricanChieften 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would these kind of ear protection fare in an industrial environments with loud machinery, grinding, cranes and such?

    • @sainehonsa
      @sainehonsa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I work in a wood manufacturing plant and it works great , but if I don't need to communicate with other people I rather use earplugs, we usually have a noise level from 80-100 dB . If you're earpro will be exposed to moisture I recommend sordin they seem to be pretty weather proof

  • @JayFolipurba
    @JayFolipurba 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    thats exactly what I wanted to know

  • @Filo181.
    @Filo181. ปีที่แล้ว

    👏🏻

  • @hycron1234
    @hycron1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My neighbors play their annoying music at night while I'm trying to sleep. I get to hear their bass through our walls. Any recommendations for eliminating this sound? Do you think something like the Peltor 300 would work at blocking the "diff, diff, diff" sound that keeps me awake at 3am? I'm at my wits end. Thanks.

    • @korbano
      @korbano  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately bass travels through things pretty well, including your skull. So even if you had headphones that block 100% of the sound, you’d still hear it. I had neighbors in the college dorms that did the exact same thing and trust me I tried everything. Nothing works good enough. You have to either tell them to stop or file a noise complaint

  • @Broken_Arrow58
    @Broken_Arrow58 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm in the market for gun range hearing protection. Your point is that electronic muffs are better protection than noise cancelling headphones, correct? Thank you!

    • @korbano
      @korbano  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct. Noise cancelling will not protect your ears. You need electronic muffs

    • @Broken_Arrow58
      @Broken_Arrow58 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korbano Got it. And one can always supplement with ear plugs.

  • @jlastre
    @jlastre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice explanation, but you're aware that the NRR ratings are fairly useless. Companies can cherry pick from a list. For example MSA Sordins are NRR 19, but offer some of the best ear pro for electronic ear pro.

    • @korbano
      @korbano  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      jlastre that’s quite interesting. I suppose it’s kind of like flashlights saying they have a lot of lumens when they’re only picking the brightest spot. I can say that the Peltors definitely have better protection than the Howard Leights. I usually put foam earplugs in with the Howard Leights but I don’t need to with the Peltor

    • @jlastre
      @jlastre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Budget Tool Reviews I am getting back into shooting after a long absence so am doing my research. Back in the day I bought a pair of Peltor H7 which is rated at NRR 27 which are quite cheap. I'm sure you're also aware that Db is logarithmic. So the difference can be substantial...if the ratings were worth something. Usually the bigger the ear pro the better. I have a pair of Sordins but plan to double up as you do for indoor use. I like the Peltor 500s for the Bluetooth and might buy a pair as I can't see buying the Sordin Bluetooth version. Build quality can matter too. People seem to be raving about Pro for Sho as they are low profile and cheap. A TH-camr dissected a pair and the construction is quite good. One last point is over the ear is important IMO. It protects the bone connected to your auditory inner ear.

  • @cokemillion
    @cokemillion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So if the battery dies does it just act like regular ear pro?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Correct

  • @LoveLikeaHurricane
    @LoveLikeaHurricane 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how about the sordin supreme pro ear muffs? Those things barely have any protection in the "muff" itself.

    • @korbano
      @korbano  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s because NRR is measured at a specific frequency. At the frequency of gunfire, the sordins have good protection

    • @LoveLikeaHurricane
      @LoveLikeaHurricane 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@korbano okay. I was concerned as my sordins felt so loud, and when I opened them up , there was barely any “materials” inside. I had to double up with in ear protection to make it felt safe

    • @korbano
      @korbano  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LoveLikeaHurricane Yeah they’re pretty thin but they supposedly use good materials. I think the denser it is, the better it blocks sounds so most cheap earmuffs have to be so thick because they just use lower density foam. It’s a good idea to double up and wear foam earplugs anyway though.

  • @tommartin5217
    @tommartin5217 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My understanding is that electronic hearing protection headphones totally clip or shut off when a loud noise is present so you hear almost nothing for a period of time including voices. Is that consistent with this explanation? It seems different to me. I assume the gun shot would still be heard but at a much lower volume.

    • @Siberianhuskypuppy
      @Siberianhuskypuppy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that’s what iv been reading. That’s what made it so confusing for me . I wondered if a small part of the 140db+ made it to my years before the speakers clip or shut off.
      He made a good point in that the speaker inside the earmuffs wouldn’t be able to produce the 140+ db blast from the gun. They just couldn’t handle it nor would the manufacturer put a speaker in earmuffs that could reproduce that level of sound. They probably clip/ shut off because they cannot handle the sound. But even if they didn’t shut off the speaker still couldn’t produce that level of sound.

    • @Maxime-ho9iv
      @Maxime-ho9iv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. When the electronic hearing protection « shut off » when a loud noise is present, it is actually only shutting down the speakers inside your headset or the amplification of the outside world. To say it differently. when there is no loud sound, your electronic hearing headset is listening to outside sounds and diffusing them via the drivers inside your headset. When a loud sound is detected it simply stops doing this.
      So the actual hearing protection of an electronic hearing protection headset is the passive shell of the headset, just like a regular non-electronic hearing protection (except most electronic ones are actually a bit inferior because they try to fit everything in the same size).

  • @davidrodriguez-kn9mv
    @davidrodriguez-kn9mv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can You hear the low sounds over the high ones Since they are electric, lets Say there's a jet engine close and the earmuffs tone it down, but then some speaks while the engine it's running, would i be able to hear that person? Or the earmuffs would also tone it down?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The peltor 300’s are digital so they analyze the signal and try to pick out the person talking and only amplify that. They’re better suited for large pulses like gunshots or drums. I’ve worn them around drums and the cymbals are a continuous loud sound similar to a jet engine. It does ok. You’ll have to shout to hear people but it’s better than regular earmuffs.

    • @davidrodriguez-kn9mv
      @davidrodriguez-kn9mv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korbano oh okay man, and i Guess the same principle would work for something like a chainsaw?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      david rodriguez yeah probably. It’s pretty tricky to filter out everything except the voice

    • @davidrodriguez-kn9mv
      @davidrodriguez-kn9mv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korbano oh okay man got it, great vídeo already subscribed

  • @castlehill6717
    @castlehill6717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So essentially its using a compressor/limiter/expander?
    Edit: I just realized it must be a reverse gate. When the outside amplitude hits a certain gain threshold it “shuts down” and doesn’t reproduce through the headphone speakers.
    Genius.

    • @korbano
      @korbano  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Basically. The more expensive ones like the Peltor 300’s analyze the signal to try to let a person’s voice too even when it hits the amplitude limit. It doesn’t work very well though and it’s still hard to hear people talking during gunshots unless the shots are farther away or quieter

    • @skogib4846
      @skogib4846 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korbano I wonder why they don't just scale the amplitude of the output audio down instead of shutting it down period. That would allow you to hear everything all the time, including the gunshot and voices at the same time, just at a safe cap db.

    • @korbano
      @korbano  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skogib4846 Well the gunshot is so much louder than voices so if they just scaled it down, you wouldn't be able to hear the voices anyway. But the Peltor 300's try to do some live audio processing to try to allow the voice to be heard and not the gunshot but it doesn't work that well. It takes a lot of processing power to do live noise analysis like that

    • @skogib4846
      @skogib4846 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korbano That makes sense, yeah.

  • @compscript7973
    @compscript7973 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need hearing protection that blocks all sounds especially people talking.
    It can't be Bluetooth. Any help would be appreciated.

    • @replacesoundboard
      @replacesoundboard ปีที่แล้ว

      You need to combine passive earmuffs (hearing protection) with active earplugs (noise cancelling plugs). The outer layer muffs will lower down all the noises around you, and the earplugs will erase out the remaining sound that manages to reach your ears.

  • @jsociety4964
    @jsociety4964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So which ones the best at least to protect your ears from fireworks?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Electronic hearing protection works great for fireworks

  • @rubisspiderido4612
    @rubisspiderido4612 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are there any headphones with both active noise cancellation, and electronic hearing protection?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven’t seen any headphones with this capability. That’s a good idea for a product

    • @romerogiovanni7
      @romerogiovanni7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If I'm not mistaken, the Walker Razor electronic hearing protection does this.

  • @colt5189
    @colt5189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do those active ear muffs with the microphone let you turn the microphone off? I'd want the microphone off as I want to block as much outside noise as possible, but I want to listen to my music via bluetooth.

    • @korbano
      @korbano  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, if you turn off the microphones it turns off the music too with this specific model.

    • @colt5189
      @colt5189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korbano Thanks. I guess if I were to get one of these, then I could just try and open it up and cut the wires to the microphone. As I want to block as much noise as possible from the outside.
      Do you have any recommendations on ear muffs with high NRR that has bluetooth to listen to music with? Thanks. I wish they made 33db NRR with bluetooth, but looks like they don't.

    • @replacesoundboard
      @replacesoundboard ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@colt5189 I came across some Peltor muffs that do have bluetooth or radios and which work as "industrial electronic hearing protection", but I can't guarantee how well they work since I use passive muffs.
      Perhaps you could wear tiny bluetooth ear plugs under passive muffs?

  • @TheSuperwrenchGarage
    @TheSuperwrenchGarage 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So would this technology work in a shop when power tools are running and still allow you to hear potential people talking to you?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Possibly. I think it would be difficult to hear someone talking while the power tools were making noise but at the very least, you could hear them when the power tools are not making noise so you don’t have to keep taking your hearing protection off to talk to someone

  • @rahulbangar786
    @rahulbangar786 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    which one is best for reducing noise in office so I can focus on my work?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noise canceling headphones are best for that situation. I have the AirPod Pros and they work pretty well but any noise canceling headphones will be decent especially with some music playing quietly

    • @rahulbangar786
      @rahulbangar786 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korbano Noise isolation or active noise cancellation will work better?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rahulbangar786 noise isolation is just like regular ear muffs or ear plugs. Those will work ok and are cheap but active noise cancellation works even better but requires electronics to work

    • @rahulbangar786
      @rahulbangar786 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korbano Thanks, I will buy active noise cancellation earphones or headphones

  • @funnymakerboy4199
    @funnymakerboy4199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @user-vm7kn3xs6c
    @user-vm7kn3xs6c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    so if I dont want hear my neighbor talking in the adjacent apt or dog barking which one should I use?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noise cancelling. But even still, you may hear them depending how loud it is. I find foam earplugs to work best and be most comfortable for noisy neighbors

  • @straytracks2662
    @straytracks2662 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this explination might be a bit misleading. Dont take this to mean you cant get hearing damage because u have headphones on.
    But what do I know?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It means you won’t get anymore hearing damage than you would wearing regular headphones with the same dB rating. The point was to clear up the misconception that electronic hearing protection amplifies loud sounds causing more hearing damage, when this is not true

  • @militarymadness9133
    @militarymadness9133 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    im confused here. You say the protection only comes from the cups but then you say the electronics turn down the loud sound too when it is detected.

    • @replacesoundboard
      @replacesoundboard ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know this comment is a year old, but I thought I'd try and explain just in case.
      TL;DR: What protects you is the thick layer of soundproof material. The electronic only amplifies tiny noises so that you can hear people talking, and it turns off with loud noises so that sound can reach you through the muffs itself. Without the electronic, you're still protected, but you won't hear people talking.
      Basically, the electronic hearing protection muffs work the same way as passive ones: it's the thick layer of foams and stuffs that isolate your ears from the outside environment, reducing all the noises that can reach them.
      The electronic is only useful for the microphone which transcribes (and amplifies) the tiny sounds such as people talking to you, so that you can hear them through the thick soundproof muffs.
      When a loud noise happens (e.g. gun shot, machinery), the microphone turns itself off. What this means is, nothing will be amplified anymore, and you will only hear whatever sound goes through the muffs directly. And since it's soundproof, it protects your ears.

  • @user-fs7be8oe8r
    @user-fs7be8oe8r ปีที่แล้ว

    So wait, if I just want to block out all sounds in order to studying, what exactly can you recommend to me?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  ปีที่แล้ว

      Noise cancelling headphones work great for studying

    • @D_PMAN
      @D_PMAN 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@korbanoPlease which particular product would you recommend, I really need it for my studies. My neighborhood is very noisy😭

    • @korbano
      @korbano  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@D_PMAN I like the Apple AirPod Pros especially if you have an iPhone. The Samsung Galaxy Buds Pro are good too

  • @liamsorensen5897
    @liamsorensen5897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does doubling up with muffs and ear plugs work?

    • @korbano
      @korbano  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’d wear ear plugs under the electronic hearing protection and just turn up the volume all the way. You won’t be able to hear people as clearly but it adds a little more protection

    • @vgmaster9
      @vgmaster9 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korbano Right now I'm wearing earplugs under my PC headset which I turn max volume.

  • @yetisuncle666
    @yetisuncle666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    walkers are cheaper, better made and work flawlessly. 23 db- 34 db depending the model

  • @user-wd1vd9du2q
    @user-wd1vd9du2q 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great informative video sir!

    • @korbano
      @korbano  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @funnymakerboy4199
    @funnymakerboy4199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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