A Tale of Two Restaurants: The Complicated History of the French Dip Sandwich

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  • Did you know that the French dip sandwich was invented in California and that 2 L.A. restaurants claim to be the creator? Who do you think did it first? Have you heard any other origin stories? Which restaurant is your favorite?
    Special thanks to the homie Joel Lopez for the filming and editing on this video, he is seriously one of the most talented people I know.
    Photos:
    All photographs were taken from the displays at the restaurants or from their respective websites or social media accounts except for:
    Group shot of police officers from Wikimedia Commons
    Photo of the Pacific Electric Building from USC Libraries and California Historical Society
    References:
    “The Century-Long History of Philippe’s and Its Famous French Dip Sandwich” by Jean Trinh, KCET. January 5, 2017.
    “Who Actually Invented the French Dip? We Got to the Bottom of It” by Jackson Landers. Thrillist, March 27, 2016.
    “Philippe’s Founder Recalls Busy Days: Man Who Made First French-Dip Sandwich Sees Restaurant Bearing Name Close Doors” by LA Times Staff. The Los Angeles Times, Aug. 27, 1951.
    Cole’s Menu | Cole’s Website
    About Us | Philippe’s Website
    “Cole’s Serves a Slice of History” by Steve Harvey. The Los Angeles Times, March 8, 2009.
    “A Tale of Two (French) Dips: The Sandwich That People Love to Debate” by Joe Hauler. Los Angeles Downtown News. Jan. 16, 2004.
    “Dueling Dips: The Claim of Philippe the…” by Steve Harvey. The Los Angeles Times, Oct. 14, 1993.
    “Stale Bread, Leftover Gravy? Voila! A Sandwich is Born” by Cecilia Rasmussen. The Los Angeles Times, Sept. 21, 2003.
    Music:
    “Plantation” by Omri Smadar
    “Picking the Creep” by Lucy Allieres
    “Santaphone” by Southside Aces
    “Frolic in the Avenue” by Southside Aces
    #californiography #philippes #coles #frenchdip #food #sandwich
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  • @Beelzepug13
    @Beelzepug13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nothing like getting a dip at Philippe’s walking to Union Station for beers at Traxx then taking the bus to a Dodger game. Gotta love LA

    • @californiography
      @californiography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sounds like the perfect L.A. day!

    • @josephshulman6666
      @josephshulman6666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Union Station is such a historic place the recent renovation s have brought it up to its 1940s heyday !!!!

  • @ImpulseScooterTeam
    @ImpulseScooterTeam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I served as a Los Angeles Police Officer for 35 years. I was always told that sandwich came about by Officer French that walked a foot beat in that area. Philippe’s has always been my favorite.

    • @californiography
      @californiography  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is definitely the most popular story. Honestly, it's a much better story than the real one. Philippe's is my favorite too, I try not to go too long without dropping in for french dip and if I wake up early enough, some of their pancakes.

  • @RLM575
    @RLM575 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video and great stories! I have been a huge Cole's fan for years. Definitely the superior meat in the sandwich IMHO, but BOTH are awesome and worth the trip! Thanks

    • @californiography
      @californiography  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, I agree that Cole's has the better meat; it's like a premium version of the french dip and I'll grab it when I want to treat myself to a good drink too. Philippe's is my go-to quick bite to eat whenever I'm in the area, but both are are awesome like you said! Thank you for watching and subscribing, I really appreciate you!

  • @DiscGoStu
    @DiscGoStu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Double dip lamb from Philippe’s before a Dodger game is LA at its peak

    • @californiography
      @californiography  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      People sleep on the lamb, it’s honestly my favorite!

    • @caraqueno
      @caraqueno หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Cole's sandwich is way superior to Philippe's. Philippe's trades on people in their 60s that once lived nearby, had great memories of the restaurant but haven't been near it in 30+ years.

  • @1timorland
    @1timorland ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for this video! No doubt that I prefer Philippe’s sandwich (beef double dip, no cheese, plenty of hot mustard) to Cole’s. But there is something to be said for the classic cocktails and retro vibe there. We’re lucky to have both!

    • @californiography
      @californiography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching! Yes, definitely lucky to be able to enjoy them both. I do frequent Philippe’s more because they’re open more hours, but sitting in Cole’s is whole other vibe. You definitely feel the history in that building.

  • @josephshulman6666
    @josephshulman6666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ive been wanting to go here for at least 10 years !!!!

    • @californiography
      @californiography  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You gotta make the trip, definitely worth it!

  • @mrs.rucker2448
    @mrs.rucker2448 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Phillippe’s all the way! I grew up going there and still go with my grown kids.

    • @californiography
      @californiography  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s a great tradition! I prefer Philippe’s too!

  • @HORSEYANIME2024
    @HORSEYANIME2024 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pls continue uploading more new videos and of unknown California history

    • @californiography
      @californiography  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for watching, appreciate you! 🙏🏽

  • @-EchoesIntoEternity-
    @-EchoesIntoEternity- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joker: do you want to know how i got these scars?
    Phillipe: do you want to know how the french dip started?
    same energy

  • @aidoon6364
    @aidoon6364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! just discovered this account and it is great! definitely gonna be successful in the future! one tip is add more enthusiasm / excitement within the video.

    • @californiography
      @californiography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching and for the feedback! I appreciate it; always want to get better.

  • @8196jlb
    @8196jlb ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the first time I have seen one of your videos. As I grew up Highland Park, I wholeheartedly enjoyed this. Thank you.

    • @californiography
      @californiography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found my channel! Thank you for watching and commenting, it really means a lot! I appreciate you!

  • @peymang
    @peymang ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Philippes before the Dodger game!!!!

  • @HistoricalsocietyLB
    @HistoricalsocietyLB 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Job!

  • @mikekenney1947
    @mikekenney1947 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Worked in DT LA in the 70’s. Cole’s and Phillipe’s were favorites and in our group there were fans of each origin story. 50 years later you can still toss a coin. Just eat the damn sandwich.

    • @californiography
      @californiography  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a good way to put it, “Just eat the damn sandwich!” We’re definitely lucky to have both of these great spots within minutes of each other.

  • @1792dt
    @1792dt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Philippe’s! Also it wasn’t a hotel on the second floor, before it was a brothel.

    • @californiography
      @californiography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely correct; I should've said "hotel" with air quotes lol. Thank you for watching and commenting, appreciate you!

    • @limeyprat
      @limeyprat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ohhh, that gives an entirely new meaning to "double-dip" roast beef.

  • @debbie7115
    @debbie7115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been to both, Cole's back in the 80's and more recently in 2018 to Philippe's. I always believed the story from Philippe's but after hearing his 1951 interview I have no idea! Loved the ending, 'Until next time, this is Huell Howser signing off'.

    • @californiography
      @californiography  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right?! I think it's easier (and more fun) to just tell the story of the bread accidentally falling in the pan instead of the story that was told in that 1951 interview. Thank you for loving the ending! Huell is the inspiration and I just want to pay homage to him. Thank you for watching and commenting, it helps the channel grow and I appreciate it!

    • @debbie7115
      @debbie7115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@californiography I miss Huell and his 'visiting' so many locations here. Would be fun to see you go 'visiting' like he did. Again, thanks for sharing!

    • @californiography
      @californiography  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@debbie7115 I miss him too! I'm definitely planning on 'visiting' a lot of places he did and those that he didn't get a chance to get to.

  • @dsolosan
    @dsolosan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to prefer Cole's to Philippe's, but I didn't like their changed menu after the renovation. So now I only eat at Philippe's.

    • @californiography
      @californiography  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never ate there before the renovation, so I only know the new menu. I prefer Philippe’s because they’re open more hours and I can feed 2 people for the price of one sandwich and a drink from Cole’s

  • @mindbuzzmedia
    @mindbuzzmedia ปีที่แล้ว

    Mark Summer’s Unwrapped vibes … Foo Summers 🤘🏽

    • @californiography
      @californiography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha! High compliment! Love that dude, especially when he had beef with Burt Reynolds on the Tonight Show! 😂

  • @mistervacation23
    @mistervacation23 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is this the place that also sells a cup of bromo caffeine?

    • @californiography
      @californiography  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don’t think so, I’ve never seen it on either places’ menus.

  • @chrishelbling3879
    @chrishelbling3879 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ¡Compadre! Which one did you like better?

    • @californiography
      @californiography  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They each have their strengths, but Philippe’s is my favorite of the two. I get the pork, double-dipped, with pepper jack or the lamb, double-dipped, with blue cheese.

  • @limeyprat
    @limeyprat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cole's has a great and somewhat pretentious bar but no.
    The Philippe's story has more facts and overall, it just tastes better. A skeptic could argue that Cole's invented the French dip but it tastes awful and Philippe's does it better.

    • @californiography
      @californiography  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree that Philippe’s has more concrete evidence to backup their claim. I honestly prefer Philippe’s over Cole’s, it’s so much easier to get to and you can’t beat the cost. For what I pay for one sandwich and drink at Cole’s, I can get 2 sandwiches, sides, and drinks at Philippe’s!

  • @DontcallmeaCuck
    @DontcallmeaCuck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I grew up eating at Phillipes . But Coles story sounds more believable.

    • @californiography
      @californiography  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What’s your go-to order at each spot?

    • @DontcallmeaCuck
      @DontcallmeaCuck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@californiography I’ve only been to Coles once but it was pretty good . But at Phillipes , I always had the Ham Sandwich French dip with Swiss cheese before a Dodger game. Dads Root beer . I’m not a big mustard fan unless its the spicy mustard like Phillipes. Grows on you over time .

    • @californiography
      @californiography  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DontcallmeaCuck I don’t think I’ve ever tried the ham, I’ll have to get it next time. You’re spot on about the mustard, I grew on me and now I can’t get enough of it; I keep a bottle of it in my house

    • @DontcallmeaCuck
      @DontcallmeaCuck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@californiography I never knew it was a hotel on top . But you can definitely see it. Looked like it could’ve been a boardinghouse with shared bathrooms . And separate set of stairs leading to the street .

    • @californiography
      @californiography  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DontcallmeaCuck I’ve read in a few places that the upstairs was also a brothel at some point too