Voltron Theory: Shiro has a CLONE- Kuron and his Fate

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  • @CartoonUniverse
    @CartoonUniverse  7 ปีที่แล้ว +560

    #notmyshiro

    • @IloveElsaofArendelle
      @IloveElsaofArendelle 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cartoon Universe lol 😂😂😂

    • @toadguy19
      @toadguy19 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cartoon Universe #notmyshrio

    • @whos_aj
      @whos_aj 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      #notmydaddy

    • @mothmin
      @mothmin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      #notmyshiro

    • @toadguy19
      @toadguy19 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      #notmyshiro

  • @jocruz309
    @jocruz309 7 ปีที่แล้ว +290

    A lot of people like to think that Keith would be the first one to realize that this Shiro is a clone, but what if he was the LAST one to accept it? Like Keith has nearly lost Shiro plenty of times now, and it's implied in the BOM episode that Keith is constantly afraid of Shiro leaving him. Imagine everyone else on the team slowly coming to the realization that this Shiro isn't the right one, but Keith stubbornly refusing to accept the truth because he doesn't want to face the reality that Shiro is still gone.

    • @fnafsummoners5679
      @fnafsummoners5679 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Jo E I could actually see that... It would be pretty sad, as Keith was really happy

    • @andyrfa5344
      @andyrfa5344 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I think the first would be Lance, and the others wouldn't believe him and then they are gonna be mad with him and omg we are gonna cry with season 4 v,:

    • @xiaxiyan6158
      @xiaxiyan6158 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      That's a really good point, but I think that Keith would be the first to notice but the last to accept. Like he'd start realizing small differences, but push them aside until there was too much evidence for him to ignore. Although I think Pidge will be the first to say something (call it a guy feeling, maybe favoritism) since she is Shiro's favorite, and they seemed to spend a lot of time together. Idk, but I hope that they don't just overlook the paladins realizing something's off.

    • @ChristineDenmark
      @ChristineDenmark 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree with Ms. Maven. I think you also see this when he figured out his Galra heritage. He noticed a lot of things but he needed someone to tell him directly that he was part Galra. So I think it would be the same with finding out about Shiro but with another kind of emotional baggage he has to work through in order to accept it.

  • @emma-bg3zb
    @emma-bg3zb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    me after season 3: *banging pots and pans* HES A CLONE HES A CLONE HES A CLONE HES A CLONE

    • @emilyferkin7431
      @emilyferkin7431 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      emmy irene * screaming * WHERE DID THE UNDETCUT GO ?? WHERE IS IT???

    • @BARALover96
      @BARALover96 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      emmy irene question is Was the first shiro a clone as well? Are they both clones? Or is thus the original and the clones memories were passed down to him

  • @botanicaltears
    @botanicaltears 7 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    The Blue Lion rejected Lance by placing a particle barrier up. It kept him out because he was not needed in Blue, but Red. However, the Black Lion didn't place a barrier up for anyone, but didn't activate as non of the Paladins were the right person.
    Now, if Kuron was Shiro, yet the Black Lion had now accepted Keith as the Black Paladin it would've placed a barrier up, but it didn't, and instead didn't activate.
    The Lion treated Kuron as a *new person*.
    It knew that Kuron is not Shiro.

    • @imjust_a
      @imjust_a 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      But the Lions put up the particle barriers when they first encountered them -- when it was treating them as new people.
      The Lions would protect themselves from hostiles. It'd honestly be more convincing to me if it had put up a particle barrier for Shiro, indicating it REALLY doesn't want him back. However, it let him try.

    • @wendygoerl9162
      @wendygoerl9162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But the Black Lion didn't care if they hung out in him all day (no impending combat at the time). The lions don't (normally) put barriers up in the castle, because they know everyone is part of the "pride." Blue, on the other hand, knew the lions were going into combat, and the more Lance sat around in the cockpit, the longer it would take for Allura to get into the cockpit. Best way to get him moving to Red is not to let Lance in in the first place.

  • @ebonyb3879
    @ebonyb3879 7 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Who else only accepted this theory bc they saw this video or just knew that Kuron didn't have Shiro's expert eyeliner abilities.

    • @bboi5845
      @bboi5845 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's all in the eyeliner Goddamnit what does that clone think he doing with that thick amateur eyeliner the real shiro has obviously superior skills

  • @renarooni
    @renarooni 7 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    That's not our Space Daddy...

  • @immortalandundead5554
    @immortalandundead5554 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I love shiro and all but I feel kinda sorry for kuron :( he's not evil or anything. He was just born and as far as he knows, he IS shiro. It's gonna be jolting when he learns the truth. Kuron's sole purpose of existence is to be a weapon. His memories are fake. I want to give him a hug. I want shiro back and all but I'm nowSo interested to see what Kuron's reaction will be to learning the truth and how it will change him

  • @SailorJigglypuff
    @SailorJigglypuff 7 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    The real question is: does lotor know about this and is he going to do something about it?

    • @regretrhombus2978
      @regretrhombus2978 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I asked myself the same thing
      your name is gr8

    • @gliscorpropagandaaccount1764
      @gliscorpropagandaaccount1764 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It could be possible, but we'll only know for sure in s5.

    • @bluestyle8874
      @bluestyle8874 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mEmEs boi i love going back in comments and season 5 already happened and still is just a "theory" that thats not our Shiro and everything cuz lol the producers gave us jack shiet

  • @awesomenugget7487
    @awesomenugget7487 7 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    I figured this out the first time we saw him. Who agrees with this theory? So much evidence against him.

    • @kurlitronprime1888
      @kurlitronprime1888 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love Agario yeah definitely

    • @horrehbarn6632
      @horrehbarn6632 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, when I first saw him in s3 I didn't trust it one bit..

    • @anonymoususer5936
      @anonymoususer5936 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *Love Agario* I actually accepted him as Shiro, telling myself the design changed for some artsy reason like symbolising how his time with the Galra has changed him. But I had this feeling that somthing was off about him :/

    • @goldenlotus3598
      @goldenlotus3598 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      #voltronseason5

  • @yannismorris4772
    @yannismorris4772 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love how Allura, Hunk and the original Yellow Paladin yell "I'm a leg!" when they form Voltron for the first time.
    Also maybe Lance actually correctly guessed the requirements for the Blue Lion's Paladin.

    • @yannismorris4772
      @yannismorris4772 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      P.S Original Yellow is one of my favorite characters

    • @luluzin5022
      @luluzin5022 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah! I like him too! Hope there'll be more flashback episodes.

  • @clxud9776
    @clxud9776 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    man the series hasn't even outright confirmed Kuron's a clone and I'm already hyped for his redemption
    give my son Kuron a happy ending 2k17

    • @ChelseaTheAutisticSwanPrincess
      @ChelseaTheAutisticSwanPrincess 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Clxud 9 Yeah, please make Kuron a good clone!

    • @immortalandundead5554
      @immortalandundead5554 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He hasn't done anything wrong creators! He woke up with fake memories, he's just trying his best :(

  • @charlotteravenscroft4562
    @charlotteravenscroft4562 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Kuron: "shoot him I'm the real Shiro"
    Keith: "the real Shiro would never pass up an opportunity to die!"

  • @kerumifrog
    @kerumifrog 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I think that the Shiro with Matt in the spoiler is the real Shiro,since he's wearing the Black paladin armor,which disappeared along with the real Shiro,unless there was a spare one at the castle...but I hope that's not the case.
    I just REALLY WANT MY TRUE SON BACK IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK??

  • @cgt9056
    @cgt9056 7 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I actually have the theory that ''long haired'' Shiro is the real Shiro and the season 1 Shiro we all know and love is the clone. (In my head that explains the long hair.) Cause the whole LH Shiro on the snow planet is almost an exact scene from Voltron Force where we find out that Sven (That series Shiro) is actually alive after being assumed dead for awhile. So I interpreted that scene as the real Shiro being alive and coming back to the team. I don't know but as someone who watched all three series of Voltron that scene stood out to me in season 3.

    • @ExBenzi2
      @ExBenzi2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haku GT Hm, you may have a point there! Interesting theory.

    • @katie-jr4rs
      @katie-jr4rs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good theory but then how would the long haired shiro know about voltron and the paladins and everyone else?

    • @EverShall
      @EverShall 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haku GT You just blew my mind

    • @thesonica1
      @thesonica1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      REJECTION! (always wanted to do that) If that was true, why doesn't Black accept Shiro? And don't tell me Black got attached to Keith, the lions are more stubborn than that.

    • @EverShall
      @EverShall 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Knight of Spirit Nope, the Red Lion wouldn't allow that. We're missing an important piece here.... none of these theories actually add up...

  • @raymond7116
    @raymond7116 7 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    I have a theory not to get anyone mad but what if our shiro from season 1 is a clone which will explain the long hair and the shiro in season 3 and all the clones memory's were trying to transfer between each of them

    • @abrokatec
      @abrokatec 7 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      otaku trash If Season 1 Shiro is a clone, he is still our Shiro

    • @lara-bts-brasil-army2325
      @lara-bts-brasil-army2325 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrea Brokate yes

    • @fnafsummoners5679
      @fnafsummoners5679 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      otaku trash so if I understand correctly, your saying the Shiro in Season 1 was a clone, and the one we see in season 3 is the ' real ' Shiro?

    • @raymond7116
      @raymond7116 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jimmy Strain yes

    • @fnafsummoners5679
      @fnafsummoners5679 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      otaku trash I understand your evidence, but I'm hoping the screenshot we see of Shiro with Matt, that's the real Shiro. Though, I'm hoping Kuron will stay on Team Voltron. I dunno, I always liked the idea of a created enemy betraying his creators

  • @Oxa126
    @Oxa126 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    hes a clone because he doesnt have the sick ass fade

    • @bboi5845
      @bboi5845 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True, they skipped over this evidence I can't believe it!!1!

  • @HydeKunaga
    @HydeKunaga 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I see a lot of people who still think that Kuron is the true shiro and the shiro we all love is the clone. But I don't agree with this theory.
    - first, because it will be WAY too sad and cruel from dreamworks (really, it's a show for kids! don't break our heart like that!).
    - the shiro we know remembers stuff from earth. He knows Pidge's real name, and when they were connecting to create voltron, he was thinking of his school.
    - the galra looked for the first shiro after his escape. They let Kuron run away.
    - They call Kuron "project Kuron". I think that's enough. Why say that to the real shiro? It's meningless.
    - his bond with the black lion is really strong, the strongest of all the paladins. I don't think black would have link this much with a replica.
    - again, the way shiro escaped. The galra didn't planned that. And he was helped by the hand of gomora, why would they save a clone?
    - Some theories are saying that Shiro had a contact with the quintessence, I think it's real. Maybe when they saw his potential in the arena (really, he must have been very impressive for a human), they made him react to the quintessence and he survived and didn't have the side effect Zarkon and his wife have. And maybe that's one of the reason his link with black is so strong. Maybe that's also the reason why they cloned him and wanted to use him as a weapon, because he's special.
    And last reason: Shiro wasn't used as an experimentation for a year. He was the champion for a long time, he could have cut his hair during that time. While Kuron was sleeping for more than a year (between before the beginning of season 1 and season 3).
    I hope your theories are true. And like the others, I hope the real Shiro is with Matt. But poor Kuron, he got all the hate while I'm sure he has no idea he is a clone... Man, can't wait for season 4!!! bring back space daddy!!

  • @jaysonbossuet211
    @jaysonbossuet211 7 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Who else thinks Lotor is a better villain?

    • @turquoisecrow4513
      @turquoisecrow4513 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jayson Bossuet me

    • @CalebCraft10
      @CalebCraft10 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Jayson Bossuet Way better despite is sad amount of screen time. Zarkon is beyond generic. Lotor seems to have a lot more charm and cunning, with his gang actually having unique designs so I can almost remember them (even if we haven't really gotten any episodes with focus on them).

    • @jaysonbossuet211
      @jaysonbossuet211 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Inklink agreed Zarkon was good at being evil/menacing but he lacked personality Lotor looks like he actually has hobbies besides taking over the universe makes him more human

    • @LeChikapaw
      @LeChikapaw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jayson Bossuet maybe he lacked personality because he might have lost his memories like haggar?

    • @juanstrong3695
      @juanstrong3695 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How is Zarkon generic? His backstory adds more depth to him.

  • @cyanicdoodle
    @cyanicdoodle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Kuron looks like buzz light year.

    • @gabbyl3856
      @gabbyl3856 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      _Iceblade _ everytime i see this i cry

    • @LJGrindewald
      @LJGrindewald 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      _Iceblade _ "My name is Kuran and I'm a handsome man." 😂

    • @cybersearcher1041
      @cybersearcher1041 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uhh, I get the meme. But he doesn't really, at least to me.

  • @L-o-l-b-i-t
    @L-o-l-b-i-t 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Other People: Convincing evidence, Detailed theories
    Me: His eyeliner is wrong

    • @victoria0.017
      @victoria0.017 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      VulpixwithWings as soon as I saw fake shiro that was the first thing I noticed. THE EYELINER IFIDKSSM

  • @akirachaossuta
    @akirachaossuta 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I know a lot of people want Kuron to betray the Team or want him to just kill himself or for he paladins to kill him or just literally hating on him. But, you gotta look at it from his perspective. He truly believes he's Takashi Shirogane, he has fake memories and connections to the Keith, Pidge, Lance, Hunk, Allura, and Coran.
    Don't get me wrong I want Space Dad back too, but I don't want anything to happen to kuron, he's deserves his own life and maybe become a leader of a rebellion.

  • @mikeock9525
    @mikeock9525 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    What about his eyeliner tho lol

    • @CartoonUniverse
      @CartoonUniverse  7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      How could I dare have forgotten about that!

    • @aukun4992
      @aukun4992 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Galra top gay technology,prince lotion shared some.

  • @skaicash69
    @skaicash69 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really think he's a clone,Here's why:
    In season 3, Shiro escaped a Galra ship and that’s how team Voltron found him,But when he was escaping two things caught my eye and I knew this wasn’t the Real Shiro.
    1: The Galra didn’t call him Prisoner nor called him Champion.
    2:They called him ‘project:Kuron’ If you translate ‘Kuron’ it means Clone in Japanese.
    Also,more things showed me he wasn’t a clone when he got back to the Castle.
    1:He touched Keith (and several other people) with his cybernetic arm.Shiro never touches anyone with that arm unless he has too (Like when he was comforting Pidge).
    2:His eyeliner and undercut. (I mean come on! His eyeliner is way too thick and where’s his undercut?!)
    3:The Black lion rejected him.I would at least think the lion would of allowed Shiro (Even if this was the last time) to pilot it,but simply it didn’t respond to him.It clear shows it should of opened up to him,like it opened up to Zarkon even he was no longer it’s paladin.
    So,I really think he’s a clone.

  • @IchMagDosenmais
    @IchMagDosenmais 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    OMG 2 Space Dads? Please....I NEED THAT! (Yes, I would love both °^°)

  • @KittyKatKandi
    @KittyKatKandi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    also his eyeliner wings are too thick like he's had to go in a few times (the real shiro is skilled and clearly does one flick) #notmyspacedad
    (also there's the "i've got this weird headache..." line. No one in any show ever has just _had_ a weird headache for no reason)

  • @cartooncrazy9883
    @cartooncrazy9883 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Also he didn't say he wanted to get back home, or to the castle, or to the paladins, or to his friends. Like a mantra, he was repeating that he needed to get to voltron. Why does nobody mention this????
    Also you could have pointed out the unusual way he acts with Keith, such as undermining his leadership constantly. Surely shiro, who told Keith ages ago that he wanted him to lead voltron (even when a lot of the fandom thought that idea was super dumb) would at least see how Keith does. Surely he'd at least want to see that before trying to take his lion back.

    • @aj4104
      @aj4104 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Freya K my dude in ep 6 s3 shiro said he was sorry for stepping in to keith and keith said it was fine since he was acting recklessly and that shiro should take his rightful place as leader.Shiro then said no and that keith will get there eventually.

    • @ksmdsms9101
      @ksmdsms9101 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I 100% agree. There were multiple times that, in season 4, the shiro was making decisions that didn’t seem normal. Many were putting the team in danger. And there were many times Keith’s decisions made sense but we’re shut down because shiro is seen as the most experienced and wise. I honestly think the shiro they have is NOT the real shiro

  • @skrunklebrunk374
    @skrunklebrunk374 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just started watching this show. It gives me a huge "Last Airbender" feeling. I love it.

    • @thirtysixviews
      @thirtysixviews 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      giantpoopbutt Plays Fun fact: It was animated by the same studio.

    • @skrunklebrunk374
      @skrunklebrunk374 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Samus Aran. Neato.

  • @torrentXofXdarkness
    @torrentXofXdarkness 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly I think the reason homeboy has a robot arm is because he got it chopped off during the arena and Haggar was like "ayy lmao" and took the opportunity when she had it cuz he caught attention him being "the champion" or whatever and he happened to have high quintessence or whatever. That's just my minimalistic take. If they wanted DNA then they can just get hair or blood/saliva/whatever. I don't think they need a whole body part. But that's just me

  • @PrincessMuk
    @PrincessMuk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think that Kuron was actually the original Shiro, and the Shiro we've known was the clone. But now, the original Shiro (long haired) is a sleeper agent. They injected the clone's memories into him, so he thinks he's the Black Paladin.

  • @ChelseaTheAutisticSwanPrincess
    @ChelseaTheAutisticSwanPrincess 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know, I've seen a lot of theories about this on Tumblr. But I want Kuron to be a good clone, like Dani from Danny Phantom and become the Ryou Shirogane in the series.

  • @purrloin7769
    @purrloin7769 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This would support the theory a bit more, the situation for Shiro is similar to Roy Harper in Young Justice. If you haven't seen it not my fault it's been out for years. But like Shiro, Roy was kidnapped by the villains and his right arm was cut off for genetic material for cloning. The clone then took his place and hints were given to Green Arrow as to his location, but didn't question how he was able to find him just happy about being reunited. Clone Roy's programming was to get into the Justice League as a set up, a bit similar to Shiro wanting to return to team Voltron. The two situations parallel each other a bit.

  • @genuinenugget2371
    @genuinenugget2371 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What if he got the long hair from being aged very quickly? What if they had to start at a certain point of time in his life and increase his age through artificial means? This could explain his long hair.

  • @mothmin
    @mothmin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To add to your theory you said that hair grows only half an inch a month, and for that Shiro's hair to be that long, it would have to have been growing for a year and a half. Shiro was missing for a year,and the paladins have been in space for months. They probably started cloning Shiro early on. (that's all I have)

  • @borbborbb
    @borbborbb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You didn't mention a lot of the dialogue that goes on between Keith and Kuron, while Kuron is in the room with Keith, Keith looks upset and like somethings not right. He also says "they [the gang] need you" not even mentioning himself or other wise saying "I need you" because all we know about Keith and Shiro's relationship. There's also when Keith is about to tell the team what they're going to do and what needs done, Kuron steps on Keiths ties basically and over powers Keith, a thing we know Shiro wouldn't do if Keith has legitimately became fhe leader in his place.

  • @cityyliights_
    @cityyliights_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with this! When I first saw Kuron I was skeptical about it being the actual Shiro, but what happened in the episode with him being so desperate to get back to the other paladins, and all the memories, made me believe that he is, but I was super uncomfortable with the hair change. All of the evidence that you've brought up is really bringing me back to believing that Kuron isn't Shiro and that Shiro is still out there, somewhere that the Black Lion is unable to teleport him back from. Thanks for putting together this theory, it's convincing and I enjoyed it!

  • @3oct1111
    @3oct1111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At first I thought this would be the real Shiro and the one we knew was the clone. This obviously was disproven before the episodes end. But I still believe we've never seen the real Shiro

  • @oliversharpe158
    @oliversharpe158 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was surprised when watching the episode that he was back so easily and quickly so it makes sense from a writing stand point.

  • @khanhlinh4919
    @khanhlinh4919 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Imagine the characters in voltron watching theories of themselves and laughing at how wrong it is.

  • @cea2995
    @cea2995 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ok when I first saw the journey episode I had this huge feeling of wrongness. Like you know that gut feeling that something is not right? I got that feeling. During the rest of the season I kept feeling like something was up, then I rewatched the episode after seeing multiple videos that say the season 3 Shiro is a clone. Again I felt odd, I swear there is something up with this Shiro. Who else got that feeling?#notmyspacedad #notmyshiro

  • @fclove_dodeka9437
    @fclove_dodeka9437 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The secret is hidden within the eyeliner

  • @KonDragon008
    @KonDragon008 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I originally thought that the "new" Shiro (Kuron) was some sort of sleeper agent. Evidence piled up not just from "The Journey", but from episodes past that. Kuron's attitude was different from what I remembered (and what I saw when I went back to re-watch the first couple seasons), and his "bond" with Black seems non-existent when he used to be the pilot who had the greatest bond with his lion.
    The clone theory does make sense; it could be a combination (clone and sleeper agent) as well. The Galra had plenty of time to do experiments if they had his DNA, not to mention the druid's control over quintessence. There's also the color of that liquid; it's the same color of the "corrupted" quintessence the druids were making, as well as the color of the vials the Beta Traz prison guard used to beef himself up (and I believe some of what's sustaining Zarkon right now).
    At this point in the story, quintessence has been mentioned and used a few times, but there's not a lot of deep understanding about it. We got a story of what happened to the original Paladins, but not much on quintessence (aside from the writers saying it's supposed to be similar to the Force; I always compared it to the Lifestream from FF7). Clues have been dropped, but the reason we don't know much about it is probably done on purpose.
    Though, they might as well tell us since pretty much everyone is 99.9% certain that this new Shiro (Kuron) is a different person.
    I was trying to figure out what the purpose of this would be; during the first couple seasons, it would have made sense if Zarkon ordered this to be done (planning to recapture Shiro and replace him with a clone) in order to fly the Black Lion straight into his hands.
    At this point, I was having trouble figuring out the "why"...until Keith went full emo (sorry, I don't like him and I don't accept how, pardon the pun, alienated he became from the team to the point of putting them in mortal danger had Black not decided to let Kuron leave the hangar...and it was probably a difficult decision made only because Black has sentience and knew the other lions and pilots were in danger...and Kuron was similar enough to Shiro to be the pilot. Evidence of that is how long Black took to wake up).
    Once Kuron was the pilot of Black, I started to wonder if it's some way to ensure that Voltron can easily be dismantled. If the clone defects (or a sleeper agent situation kicks in), they can make Voltron turn back into five lions from the inside.

  • @yutingp8812
    @yutingp8812 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    His eyeliner is different D: #NotMyShiro

  • @mediadetective6104
    @mediadetective6104 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's going to be like Red Arrow from Young Justice, he'll fight some gaulra general, then they say a code word to freeze him and he'll tell them what's Voltron planning, and Kuron wouldn't even know it.
    Joking aside, because Shiro is my favorite character of the show, I think episode 5 is my favorite episode of season 3, but yah, he's probably a clone, but he still has the same personality and leadership wisdom, I liked the first talk he has with Keith in episode 6, so I won't totally accept this guy, but I'm not going to scream #NOTMYSHIRO or anything, I want the real Shiro back, wherever the hell he is. I've been thinking of that Evangelion thing you mentioned in your theory video, I'd buy it, but if that's the case, Shiro must be seeing some really weird sh*t, if you saw what happened to Shinji in episode 20. I imagine Kuron is going to find out he's not the real Shiro, and sacrifice himself to save the real one, just making predictions.

    • @mediadetective6104
      @mediadetective6104 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Though my favorite joke involving the not my Shiro thing is, I saw a video where it shows Kuron, then it immediately shows a clip from Rooster Teeth's Camp Camp Season 2 episode 1, where the main character Max shouts "Who the f*ck is that!!!"

  • @Lily-xd1tg
    @Lily-xd1tg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    tbh voltron is so well written when you look at it, it's got really good depth compared to a lot of other kid shows.

  • @zster14xp
    @zster14xp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! I was waiting for someone eles to have this theory!

  • @totallynotalive5370
    @totallynotalive5370 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that shiro is a clone because the hair first thing I noticed was the shaved part wasn't all the way to the white and if you remember when they showed the episode of him escaping everyone tried to stop him and I think that that was just to implant a memory in the clone so he could tell the other paladins about it so he sounded realistic.I think there is hope for Shiro though because I feel like if keith and Shiro are brothers then that means shiro's part Galra which mean that keith might be able to psychically connect with Shiro's real body and wake him out of his sleep and track his location and save him. I also think that keith will somehow fall in love with lance in the same episode.

  • @mintbrownieangelfish-6114
    @mintbrownieangelfish-6114 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the lion switch. It bought out different things from the characters, especially keith, lance, and alura. And the point is for us to really feel how sad they are about Shiro being gone.

  • @NKN1CA97
    @NKN1CA97 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But hey guys do you really think OUR Shiro was the clone one and this Kuron is the real Shiro because I am not so convinced yet. When Our Shiro escaped and the Galra people saw him they were like shocked and the other aliens were like "the Champion is back!" So in a way, the real Shiro must have disappeared from the hands of the Galra. I remembered Haggar saying "You could've been our strongest weapon!" or something so he really must've escaped. Our Shiro might really be the real Shiro and Kuron might really be the clone. And on a crazier note, maybe they're both clones and the real Shiro actually died that's why the Galra has been trying to clone him and Shiro might've been the best clone that's why they were so angry when he initially escaped.

  • @terribletitan5024
    @terribletitan5024 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    honestly i would love if kuron can go through a atonement journey to become a real part of the team and space dad can come back

  • @juanstrong3695
    @juanstrong3695 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you made a video on this. I was tired of seeing people complain that Shiro came back too soon. The writers are clearly smarter than that.

  • @louchies
    @louchies 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He DOES NOT act like Shiro.
    He is pessamistic
    He did that entire thing with mission more important than lives
    No
    No he does not ACT LIKE SHIRO

  • @AlexiaMollTehFirst
    @AlexiaMollTehFirst 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the beginning of The Journey when I first saw it, I called Kuron "Steve," only because he had long hair and I wasn't sure he was actually Shiro. I'm still calling him Steve because Steve starts with an S, like Shiro (obviously)and Sven

  • @HilariouslyScary
    @HilariouslyScary 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes so much sense. I was really annoyed during the journey because I couldn't figure out if it was a flashback or explain what happened to Shiro. I was wondering why they didn't just tell us what was going on. This is the perfect explanation!

  • @Mylkzi
    @Mylkzi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVED the lion switching! I grew up on the 80s Voltron so when I started the new one I was so confused. Nobody was in their right lions. It made so much sense when they did the switch, especially since their mismatched armor was FINALLY explained.

  • @thefirelord3819
    @thefirelord3819 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh boy you were right!
    I feel like lance should’ve found out he was a clone first though, because Kuron kept on sorta being hard on lance
    And we see lance not taking it very well by isolating him self by the rest of the team ( E.G when he was playing video games in the episode where Allura and Coran wanted milk shakes, yes ik a lot of people stay in their rooms and play games but usually lance hangs out with someone so it’s not like him.) lance also says something around the lines of ‘I don’t think Shiro sees it’ when Alurra says something around the lines of ‘everyone in the team can see you have greatness with in’ or ‘ everyone can see your growth’ I have forgotten which one 🌝 but it shows lance probably feels distant to kuron, and lance said Shiro was his hero in the first episode so it shows his respect for Shiro so he most likely sees him more as a idol then a friend. So it would be so cute for him to find out then be the one to help him because it would show them growing as friends. But sure Keith can do it

  • @Elizabethparise
    @Elizabethparise 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My thoughts are that Kuron has a trigger word, that will make him know who, or in this case what he is. I also think that the trigger word will be Kuron.

  • @kyedits875
    @kyedits875 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I ADORED season 3 it was by far my favorite season and i am so happy #notmyshiro is a common thing because tHATS NOT SPACE DAD

  • @propagandahulk9905
    @propagandahulk9905 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you should’ve added the difference in shiro’s eyeliner lmao

  • @littlegreensunflower3547
    @littlegreensunflower3547 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think, yes, Shiro was cloned, but the Galra still have the clone

  • @marsmemory
    @marsmemory 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Idk about y'all but the code name convinced me

  • @FaerieStar
    @FaerieStar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So any theories on the real Shiro's (if Kuron is a clone) whereabouts?

    • @Mutantlover615
      @Mutantlover615 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He's probably on the ship that the clone left. That's what I think at least.

    • @FaerieStar
      @FaerieStar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mutantlover615 makes sense, though I wondered if it was another clone lol.

    • @aboutschween
      @aboutschween 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol black's astral plane

  • @carissacarlson1418
    @carissacarlson1418 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually, from what I read in another interview article, and from what I understand from it, it sounds like the Lion Switch is sticking for the rest of the series and the first couple seasons were an elaborate explanation about why the armour doesn't match the lion colours.

    • @CartoonUniverse
      @CartoonUniverse  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have a source for that?

    • @carissacarlson1418
      @carissacarlson1418 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here: www.rotoscopers.com/2017/08/10/interview-with-joaquim-dos-santos-and-lauren-montgomery-of-voltron-legendary-defender/
      Though, I admit, I could be misreading this, so don't take my word for it completely, because I could be completely wrong, too ^^;

  • @lhebert6305
    @lhebert6305 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So during the video my mind just kinda went "what if our shiro is the actual clone and the thing was flipped". It makes no sense but I thought it was funny. It would also explain how new shiro's hair was THAT long, if the actual real shirt was captured for the whole time of the show and the clone was the shiro we know, then it might explain the length

  •  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haggar:
    You could've been our greatest weapon

  • @f.i.r.e.5119
    @f.i.r.e.5119 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *SPOILERS FOR A LOT OF ISH IN S4 & ONWARD*
    _Be warned._
    ...You were warned.
    Let it be known that I was beyond skeptical about this theory.
    But then "Shiro" started acting not right, and the scene on Olkarion where he tries to reach out to Lance and denies it later... that had me thinking, _"Could this ridiculous theory actually hold water?"_
    Then I learned the truth.
    I was shooken.
    Really, this will go down in history as one of the most crazy fan theories that actually happened.

  • @nix5705
    @nix5705 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that Clone Shiro has long hair because the Galra started creating the clone from the arm that they supposedly cut off when Shiro was a prisoner of the galra at the beginning of Season 1.

  • @mishiwishu7823
    @mishiwishu7823 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:43 There’s all the evidence you need. The eyes. The clone didn’t get a dose of Shiro’s eye-lining skills. Theory confirmed!

  • @eaitch9771
    @eaitch9771 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We need answers for season 5 i hope we have a season 5!

  • @circuitscientist9951
    @circuitscientist9951 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Do you think the witch will ever be redeemed?

    • @CrobatmanIamthenight
      @CrobatmanIamthenight 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Circuit scientist she has a name

    • @CalebCraft10
      @CalebCraft10 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Circuit scientist Maybe? I mean both her and Zarkon are pure evil, so that would be a problem.

    • @raindrops6435
      @raindrops6435 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk, it seems the quintessence drove them mad, but it's also the thing that allowed them to live so long. I'd imagine both Haggar and Zarkon passed the point of no return.

    • @MelinaENJ
      @MelinaENJ 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meh... it could happen, but it's not really essential to the story from what I could tell. Who knows though, I certainly wouldn't mind :)

  • @bellefuzz
    @bellefuzz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Cartoon Universe
    in golion/80s voltron, Shiro/Sven piloted BLUE lion, not Red. It's why the Princess took over the BLUE lion when Shiro/Sven died.
    but i loved LD Sven's joke about the Space Hospital, where golion killed characters were wrote off to in 80s Voltron.

  • @Snowleaper
    @Snowleaper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Look just like him??? Have you seen the EYELINER? The real Shiro's eyeliner is sharp and done with the flick of a wrist. This Shiro's eyeliner is amateur at best.

  • @alyanimate2918
    @alyanimate2918 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just instinctively KNEW that season three Shiro wasn't the same.

  • @erincantdrum
    @erincantdrum 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a theory that possibly the last episode of season 3 where they talk about the story of Althor (Is that how u spell it?) and Zarcon might be foreshadowing what could happen between Kuron and Keith. because it says that Zarcon and Althor were very close like Shiro and Keith, but if 'Shiro' is actually Kuron he might start destroying the team from an emotional point of view.
    What do you think?

  • @andream1596
    @andream1596 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh... I didn't understand the Shiro being a clone thing until I watched this >_>
    Great job explaining btw

  • @madindog
    @madindog 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A think about it maybe Kuron is the reason that lotor was always one step ahead and maybe at first was tactics and but then lotor goes away for some time and studies through kuron who isnt exactly like shiro I can just tell he is off UHGG

  • @kitesandthings5849
    @kitesandthings5849 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Same theory I thought he was a clone you got it first tho

    • @kitesandthings5849
      @kitesandthings5849 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      #notmyshiro

    • @kitesandthings5849
      @kitesandthings5849 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not trying to be rude

    • @kitesandthings5849
      @kitesandthings5849 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's probably transmitting every thing he see's thus the headache's he has some sort of transmitter in his brain?

  • @GabyGeorge1996
    @GabyGeorge1996 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know, the thought occurs to me to me that Kuron's arm is WAY too scar-free to be Shiro's (personally, I always assumed that the reason Post-Gladiator Shiro always tended to wear long-sleeves clothing was because he had scars on his arms)

  • @sealey5265
    @sealey5265 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't you dare make me feel bad for a clone

  • @mason-le4fo
    @mason-le4fo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved season 3, and I'm glad to see this video.

  • @earnestbrown6524
    @earnestbrown6524 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    October can't get here fast enough.

  • @echoworld9781
    @echoworld9781 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think there is another possibility. What if the Shirogane that we know is the clone and the real Shiro has been with Matt the whole time?
    Remember, Shirogane didn't remember anything from his time as a captive of the Galra. Perhaps he's always been a clone and when he unlocked the black lion's true powers the Black Lion saw that and rejected him as a creation of the galra?
    Obviously this is a stretch and I hope i'm wrong. I would much rather it be that this Shiro that we see in season 3 is actually a clone and the real Shiro will return at some point later :)

  • @laezzizi
    @laezzizi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This whole turn of events really reminds me of God of High School's Mori Jin and Mori Hui 😅😅😅😅😅
    So I guess I can tell you guys that when the storyline + plot demands for clones and whatnot, you're in for a ride. 😉

  • @coffeeminusthesugar9888
    @coffeeminusthesugar9888 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Cough* "Look there are five kitties now!"

  • @jinniemoon7931
    @jinniemoon7931 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I noticed that when shiro or "shiro" had just gotten back he said that he "has a weird headache" or something like yeah ill be fine, i just need to get rid of this weird headache so my theory is, that maybe it isnt a clone, but the galra people did something to him or his brain? Or u know it could be from the cloning but there has to be a reason for that i just feel it

  • @erikarea3917
    @erikarea3917 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes!! I'm glad I'm not the only one upset about them changing lions!!

  • @alexandrafilippova258
    @alexandrafilippova258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2019!! Guess what? You were right.

  • @melima_
    @melima_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Why do people habe a Problem with the lion switches it was great, allura finally became a real character and lance & Keith got character development

    • @ThatGuy-jh6pg
      @ThatGuy-jh6pg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Emma because the originals can never be replaced. And each one was building a bond with the lions and the fact that it's stripped right when they were developing into a deeper bond sucks. Allura is the one who has the best control with the castle anyways

    • @brickwallace99
      @brickwallace99 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree that the musical lions game was great for character development and exploration, but I hope it's a temporary thing. After finishing season 4 I went back and watched the latter bits of season 2, and the team cohesion is just a lot stronger. But it is great to see allura get her hands dirty, and the new dynamic keeps things fresh

  • @haleyl.248
    @haleyl.248 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WELP NOW THAT SEASON FOUR IS OUT WE KNIW THAT ITA ACTUALLY SHIRO.

  • @brieflynudewitch1875
    @brieflynudewitch1875 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The dude looks like Arin Hanson and I can't get over it lmao

  • @doot1745
    @doot1745 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    -(Spoilers)-
    Also, in newer episodes, "Shiro" is trying to convince team Voltron to go along with Lotor's plan, and snaps when Lance tries to calm him down. He brings lotor to where he wanted to go by himself, not telling a word to the team, and when he is alone with Lance he tells him that "he doesn't feel like himself".
    There's definetly something along the lines of a clone, now the real question is wether that clone is this Shiro, or the one we've already come to know.

  • @padraicloingsigh421
    @padraicloingsigh421 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Are people upset about the lion switch? Tha Hell? I hope. It stays the way it is, this is Vollton damnit, why do people have a problem with the change? I hope they ignore the whiners!

    • @BARALover96
      @BARALover96 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Padraic loingsigh i think there is no possible way to change back to another lion. Lance change so the blue Lion doesnt find him worthy anymore. Found Allura who from the start has developed a lot.
      If they plan to get shiro to be the black Lion again. I think either Lance or Keith will not be in voltron. Since we never saw how Red react to Keith now.

    • @padraicloingsigh421
      @padraicloingsigh421 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      mr.universe it's now back to the pilots of the original. I really hope it stays the same throughout the series.

    • @juanstrong3695
      @juanstrong3695 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      People will complain about anything.

    • @stuff1295
      @stuff1295 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I know, right? I love the new lion placements. Keith gets to develop as a leader, Lance gets to fly red like he always wanted to, Keith and Lance get a lot of relationship development and Allura gets to be a paladin!

    • @Girie
      @Girie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's her opinion. If she didn't like it, that's fine.

  • @bluebiscuit6645
    @bluebiscuit6645 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like Keith leaving isn’t a goodbye but is going to be something big happening to Keith at least that’s how I saw it I CANT WAIT

  • @ChristineDenmark
    @ChristineDenmark 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can actually survive up to 10 days without water under optimal conditions but he would probably have a couple of blackout or something after 7 days and he would have needed to not sweat during any time in those 7 days.

  • @kosekiko7058
    @kosekiko7058 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im so happy that Im not the only one wanting the team back the way it was before

  • @AzureChaos29
    @AzureChaos29 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y'know, at first I was skeptical, but now it makes sense

  • @BoilingHeart
    @BoilingHeart 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just finished watching all of VLD yesterday, and seeing Shiro's return just gave me so many bad vibes. I refuse to accept new Shiro as the one we've known the past two seasons, and I am absolutely behind this clone theory. It makes sense and honestly I hope that's what it is. There's no good reason I'll accept for the Black Lion to just suddenly reject him after such a strong bond, and he just feels so... fake when he returns lol. I just hope I get my real Shiro back soon ;-;

  • @KittyThaliaX23
    @KittyThaliaX23 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    (Pearl voice) *THAT'S NOT MY BABY*

  • @kryptekdreamer3621
    @kryptekdreamer3621 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We frigging called it.

  • @stray_editori
    @stray_editori 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hair is so long To make kuron-shiro THINK that much time has passed, i believe.

  • @josiezonne5949
    @josiezonne5949 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some say that he changed his hairstyle like that, because there would be a scar on his head (memory implant thingy) so he didnt shave half of his hair as usual. Sorry For my bad english.