like the features, setup was difficult for some of my devices (August Door lock, th-cam.com/users/postUgkxhB5YOMNj04GuoAosExygP4cH-dKeb4aB Bose speaker)... but all switches and outlets (5), thermostat, tankless water heater. Unfortunately all I can do is turn on/off Bose. It doesn't support volume or changing channels, but I believe that is due to the particular speaker I have.... Worth getting if you already have other devices to use it with... I don't sit around and ask Alexa questions much so that doesn't really matter to me....
I wish Sonos would create an Amp: Mini that removes the Sub port, HDMI input and is only intended for surround speakers. They could sell something like this for $299 (half the price of the Amp).
Hello! I am enrique from mexico. I see this video triying to find the answer. I hope you can help me! I have a terrace, 14 meters x 9 meters. Excuse my bad english please…. What you recomend to me… two sonos outdoor speakers or two move sonos speakers??? For me the most important Thing is the quAlity in a high volume. Thank you very much! I hope you can answer me!!!
will the outdoor speakers pair with wireless Sonos speakers if you are using a third party amp along with the Sonos Port? I ask because I noticed you only mention the Sonos Amp in the video and comment section.
For using the in-wall as rear surrounds where the back of the sofa is against the wall, would the in-walls sound significantly worse as surrounds as compared to Era 100s that could be wall-mounted on the same wall?
No doubt, Sonos has some of the best products. Most people can do the whole thing with a cheaper product around $300 but the quality is no where as good. Still, it is an upgrade for your home.
Are you better off running a 5.1 true surround with center channel, and a third party home theater receiver, and adding a Sonos Port to group rooms when needed? Likely to save money too versus having 2x Sonos AMPs and only 4.1
I recently stayed in a true luxury airbnb condo and the had the Sonos Architectural speakers for each room. They sounded AMAZING!! They will blow your socks off and not only that it was insanely precise and beautiful. It literally gave me the chills, I have never experienced that before. I think where they are in the ceiling it creates a unique spaciousness sound. I want a set so bad.
Building a new house in Florida. Could I send my floor plan to see what you think on Sonos three room in wall, built in arc speaker and outdoor speakers. I have two Sonos Move speakers also.
Now that let’s say I have the gen 3 sub the arc bar and a pair of gen 1 rear speakers for behind the sofa. Am I still add these ceiling speakers with the wifi setup I just mentioned ? And if so how do I do this if I need to hard wire the ceiling speakers
I am setting up a small home theater. I thinking of using the following: Sonos Arc, and two sonance in ceiling. So I will need those items and amp, right? I would also like to use a Sub. What are the connections of all of this? I will run speaker wire from the ceiling to the amp. Does the soundbar or sub need to connect to the amp as well? I was thinking of just fixing the amp behind the tv.
Hi Taylor. Yes that's correct, you'll need the Sonos Amp to power the Sonance in-ceilings as rears to the Arc. The Sonos Arc is what will connect to the TV via HDMI-ARC, the Amp will power the ceiling speakers via speaker cable to each ceiling speaker and does not need to be connected to the Arc as it can be set up as surrounds to the Arc wirelessly. The Sub will also connect wirelessly to the zone. All 3 components will also need mains power. I hope that helps!
Hi Iain, you'd need to replace the Ones with the ceiling speakers as they can only be used as surrounds to the Arc. They may let you extend the system beyond 5.1.2 in the future over a software update but as it stands now, you'll need to choose between the Ones and the ceiling speakers. Hope that helps!
Hi Mark, TruePlay would only be available on the Connect:Amp if you use Sonos' own in-wall or in-ceiling speakers. You cannot use different brands of speakers on the Connect:Amp and use TruePlay. Hope that helps.
Hi Brett, yes to create a 4.1 set up with Sonos, you would need 2 Sonos Amps as the Amp can only perform one function at a time, either to power front left and right or as surrounds. You'd finish the system off with a Sub to create a full 4.1. Hope that helps!
Hi there, yes, if you power them using the Sonos Amp, they'll be set up as a separate room in the Sonos app and can be grouped with any other Sonos wireless speakers in your home. I hope that helps!
@@smarthomesoundsThank you for great videos. Would this combination workable for theater and music: A pair of wall speakers on both sides of TV A subwoofer 2x Era 300 behind sofa Thanks
Hi there, thanks for watching. Unfortunately, the Arc cannot act as a centre channel but it may be something Sonos look into doing in the future if there is enough demand. Currently, what would happen is you'd group the TV Audio from the Arc to the in-wall speakers but it wouldn't sound great. Therefore you'd either need to use all in-wall speakers (instead of the Arc) and the Amp will output a phantom centre channel or use the Arc to replace the in-wall speakers. I hope that helps!
Hi Phillip, the Amp actually produces a phantom centre channel when you use the Amp as the front left and right with your TV. We found it to be very impressive and you don't feel like the sound is coming from the 2 speakers either side but throws the sound to either side when it needs to like for example if a car moves from left to right. Of course, it wouldn't compare to having a dedicated HiFi system with centre channel etc but it makes the best of what a wireless system can do. I hope that helps!
Theres a company called widget engineering or something along those lines that makes a caddy for the sonos ones. It mounts in your ceiling. Still have to run power to it. I have two as my surrounds and its flawless
Hi Alistair, you'd be able to group the audio from the architectural TV speakers as a separate zone with the Arc, Sub and One SLs but it wouldn't be an official set up from Sonos and probably wouldn't be worth the investment. The maximum you can achieve is 5.1.2 Atmos by using the Arc, Sub and rear speakers which can be One SLs or in-ceiling / in-wall speakers. If you have the full Arc system at the moment, currently the only way you could improve the set up is by adding a second Sub but it's certainly not for everyone. I hope that helps!
@@smarthomesounds Hopefully Sonos will allow us to do this soon to create some proper overhead channels, the Atmos effects on the Sonos ARC are very poor.
@@smarthomesounds this is the answer to the question i have been looking for for some time, thank you, i have a room 4mx5m. with 3.2m ceiling high, i have ordered the optima p2 projector and was pretty sure i was going to get a fully kitted out sonos audio system but if i cant add ceiling speakers onto the arc, sub an 1sl's then i'm going to need to try and find a audio system that would enable me to get the maximum effect out of atmos...could you recommend one because i dont think the arc upward firing speakers will give me the cinematic experience i'm looking for. thanks
@@mitchellsx you connect up to 3 pairs not up to 6 speakers. the difference is that the amp only has stereo connection and not a connector for each speaker. so there would be the problem that sonos cant physicaly seperate the audio on the speaker wires and that would be required. so basically sonos needs to publish a new dolby atmos amp which would be great actually.
okay so tell me how they are compatible with my smart tv, hubs and other smart devices for homes. light the smart switch, smart plugs, security cameras etc.
Can you use the in-ceiling speakers as your rear surround instead of the in-wall ones? Reason why I need to pivot it down to my listening position and the in wall version can’t do.
like the features, setup was difficult for some of my devices (August Door lock, th-cam.com/users/postUgkxhB5YOMNj04GuoAosExygP4cH-dKeb4aB Bose speaker)... but all switches and outlets (5), thermostat, tankless water heater. Unfortunately all I can do is turn on/off Bose. It doesn't support volume or changing channels, but I believe that is due to the particular speaker I have.... Worth getting if you already have other devices to use it with... I don't sit around and ask Alexa questions much so that doesn't really matter to me....
Before I will break holes in my walls, SONOS must agree for a minimum of 20 years of support to this products.
Or you get off your soapbox
they're wall speakers, what support do you need...don't blow them or overpower them and they'll last forever
@@johnadamczyk6213 They may also be referring to updates; legacy Sonos speakers no longer receive software updates.
@@BrianMiller1973These are passive speakers, so no firmware, no software, and will work with any amp, including future sonos amps.
I wish Sonos would create an Amp: Mini that removes the Sub port, HDMI input and is only intended for surround speakers.
They could sell something like this for $299 (half the price of the Amp).
Agree amp is too costly why can’t they bring the price down
Hello! I am enrique from mexico. I see this video triying to find the answer. I hope you can help me! I have a terrace, 14 meters x 9 meters. Excuse my bad english please…. What you recomend to me… two sonos outdoor speakers or two move sonos speakers??? For me the most important Thing is the quAlity in a high volume. Thank you very much! I hope you can answer me!!!
Can you not add 2 ceiling, 2 wall and a sub for 4.1 on a single amp?
Can they be used for Dolby atmos in conjunction with the ARC?
No, they would be used for surround rears. Sonos may come out with this feature in a firmware update but unlikely soon.
You can do trueplay tuning with other passive speakers if the amp is set to use the speakers as surrounds Sonos Support
great review, what's the difference between in-ceiling Sonos and in-ceiling Klipsch RP, and where the link for the switch
I was wondering which was better as well. I just wonder if Klipsch can match the wireless simplicity of Sonos’ Airplay integration.
will the outdoor speakers pair with wireless Sonos speakers if you are using a third party amp along with the Sonos Port? I ask because I noticed you only mention the Sonos Amp in the video and comment section.
For using the in-wall as rear surrounds where the back of the sofa is against the wall, would the in-walls sound significantly worse as surrounds as compared to Era 100s that could be wall-mounted on the same wall?
Would the in ceiling speakers be appropriate for 20 ft high ceilings, or would a set of One be a better choice?
No doubt, Sonos has some of the best products. Most people can do the whole thing with a cheaper product around $300 but the quality is no where as good. Still, it is an upgrade for your home.
Are you better off running a 5.1 true surround with center channel, and a third party home theater receiver, and adding a Sonos Port to group rooms when needed? Likely to save money too versus having 2x Sonos AMPs and only 4.1
I recently stayed in a true luxury airbnb condo and the had the Sonos Architectural speakers for each room. They sounded AMAZING!! They will blow your socks off and not only that it was insanely precise and beautiful. It literally gave me the chills, I have never experienced that before. I think where they are in the ceiling it creates a unique spaciousness sound. I want a set so bad.
Building a new house in Florida. Could I send my floor plan to see what you think on Sonos three room in wall, built in arc speaker and outdoor speakers. I have two Sonos Move speakers also.
Does anybody know if Trueplay really matter if the ceiling speakers are used for rear surrounds
Thanks
Hi, What are you thoughts on going sound bar in front under the TV andin wall speakers behind on left and right side?
The IKEA picture speaker just killed the in wall for most installs.
What about getting the front grill off of the speaker? Can't do anything until that's removed.
Great review. Another nice thing not mentioned was that the tweeters on the in-wall speakers are directionally adjustable
Does the inwall speaker has better bass to the ceiling speaker ?
Hi there, the driver array is identical to the ceiling version so the bass will be exactly the same. Hope this helps.
do you have any similar review with bose ceiling speakers?
Now that let’s say I have the gen 3 sub the arc bar and a pair of gen 1 rear speakers for behind the sofa. Am I still add these ceiling speakers with the wifi setup I just mentioned ? And if so how do I do this if I need to hard wire the ceiling speakers
I’m building a new house. Need help with a new home sound systems. Thanks
So can I add it to the full arc bar, two subs, and two 300 or 500's ?
What spray paint and process do you recommend for Sonos In-Ceiling speakers? I’m interested in painting the white speakers black.
Can you pair the amp and outdoor speakers with the indoor arc system or any indoor components?
Are the ceiling speakers the same as the Sonance Mag6r
Can I get a Sonos Arc sound bar,a Sub and Amp with 4 in ceiling speakers for a 5.1.4 Home theater configuration?
Also interested in this I want a 5.1.2 system but it won’t be the Sonos amp surely??
Can you make a set up with an arc in front and sub, 2in wall speakers in the back for a home cinéma setup?
thanks for the super detailed breakdown!!!
Can I combine 4 ceiling 2 wall + 1 SVS PB16 Ultra?
I love the shirts you wear. It's a great fit.
I am setting up a small home theater. I thinking of using the following: Sonos Arc, and two sonance in ceiling. So I will need those items and amp, right? I would also like to use a Sub. What are the connections of all of this? I will run speaker wire from the ceiling to the amp. Does the soundbar or sub need to connect to the amp as well? I was thinking of just fixing the amp behind the tv.
Hi Taylor. Yes that's correct, you'll need the Sonos Amp to power the Sonance in-ceilings as rears to the Arc. The Sonos Arc is what will connect to the TV via HDMI-ARC, the Amp will power the ceiling speakers via speaker cable to each ceiling speaker and does not need to be connected to the Arc as it can be set up as surrounds to the Arc wirelessly. The Sub will also connect wirelessly to the zone. All 3 components will also need mains power. I hope that helps!
What hole cut out size would i need in my ceiling for the in ceiling speakers? 6.5 or 8?
Can you add these to a sonos arc and 2 one's. Making a true Atmos room?
Hi Iain, you'd need to replace the Ones with the ceiling speakers as they can only be used as surrounds to the Arc. They may let you extend the system beyond 5.1.2 in the future over a software update but as it stands now, you'll need to choose between the Ones and the ceiling speakers. Hope that helps!
So wish you were in the USA
Excuse me, can you assign more than one somos amp to a single room? I have a room where I want 4 in ceiling speakers for the kitchen, not just two
Yes, that's absolutely possible. You'd simply double up the cables to each binding post on the Sonos Amp. I hope that helps and thanks for watching!
Is True Play tuning available with the ceiling speakers if I have a Gen 1 Connect Amp?
Hi Mark, TruePlay would only be available on the Connect:Amp if you use Sonos' own in-wall or in-ceiling speakers. You cannot use different brands of speakers on the Connect:Amp and use TruePlay. Hope that helps.
With a 4.1 setup, do I need two amplifiers?
Hi Brett, yes to create a 4.1 set up with Sonos, you would need 2 Sonos Amps as the Amp can only perform one function at a time, either to power front left and right or as surrounds. You'd finish the system off with a Sub to create a full 4.1. Hope that helps!
I'm considering picking up a pair of the in ceiling speakers for my 3,000 sqft gym. Would you suggest getting two or four speakers?
Definitely 2 pairs
For a gym that size, I'd recommend getting some JBL, EV, or QSC PAs connected to a SONOS: Connect.
Can Sonos architectural speakers sync with Sonos wireless speakers? Thanks
Hi there, yes, if you power them using the Sonos Amp, they'll be set up as a separate room in the Sonos app and can be grouped with any other Sonos wireless speakers in your home. I hope that helps!
@@smarthomesoundsThank you for great videos.
Would this combination workable for theater and music:
A pair of wall speakers on both sides of TV
A subwoofer
2x Era 300 behind sofa
Thanks
In a media room would it make sense to have the Arc under the TV and the in wall for the left and right channels?
Hi there, thanks for watching. Unfortunately, the Arc cannot act as a centre channel but it may be something Sonos look into doing in the future if there is enough demand. Currently, what would happen is you'd group the TV Audio from the Arc to the in-wall speakers but it wouldn't sound great. Therefore you'd either need to use all in-wall speakers (instead of the Arc) and the Amp will output a phantom centre channel or use the Arc to replace the in-wall speakers. I hope that helps!
Can the square in-wall speakers be used in the ceiling? I already have square ceiling speakers that I want to replace.
You guys have the best reviews! I couldn't find the link to the floor plan video though and I'd really like to watch that one too!
Thanks so much! Here's the link to the floor plan video: th-cam.com/video/byJdoh07GqA/w-d-xo.html
What would you use for your centre channel or don’t you need one?
Hi Phillip, the Amp actually produces a phantom centre channel when you use the Amp as the front left and right with your TV. We found it to be very impressive and you don't feel like the sound is coming from the 2 speakers either side but throws the sound to either side when it needs to like for example if a car moves from left to right. Of course, it wouldn't compare to having a dedicated HiFi system with centre channel etc but it makes the best of what a wireless system can do. I hope that helps!
Can you use this with out the Amp?
I want to bye them for my shower
What would be cool is if they were completely wireless
Theres a company called widget engineering or something along those lines that makes a caddy for the sonos ones. It mounts in your ceiling. Still have to run power to it. I have two as my surrounds and its flawless
Could I add these to a Arc/surround (1SL’s) and sub? Or is this a totally different way of operating with ATMOS etc
Hi Alistair, you'd be able to group the audio from the architectural TV speakers as a separate zone with the Arc, Sub and One SLs but it wouldn't be an official set up from Sonos and probably wouldn't be worth the investment. The maximum you can achieve is 5.1.2 Atmos by using the Arc, Sub and rear speakers which can be One SLs or in-ceiling / in-wall speakers. If you have the full Arc system at the moment, currently the only way you could improve the set up is by adding a second Sub but it's certainly not for everyone. I hope that helps!
@@smarthomesounds Hopefully Sonos will allow us to do this soon to create some proper overhead channels, the Atmos effects on the Sonos ARC are very poor.
@@smarthomesounds this is the answer to the question i have been looking for for some time, thank you, i have a room 4mx5m. with 3.2m ceiling high, i have ordered the optima p2 projector and was pretty sure i was going to get a fully kitted out sonos audio system but if i cant add ceiling speakers onto the arc, sub an 1sl's then i'm going to need to try and find a audio system that would enable me to get the maximum effect out of atmos...could you recommend one because i dont think the arc upward firing speakers will give me the cinematic experience i'm looking for. thanks
@@mitchellsx you connect up to 3 pairs not up to 6 speakers. the difference is that the amp only has stereo connection and not a connector for each speaker. so there would be the problem that sonos cant physicaly seperate the audio on the speaker wires and that would be required. so basically sonos needs to publish a new dolby atmos amp which would be great actually.
Yes
Alistair, you're the best!
okay so tell me how they are compatible with my smart tv, hubs and other smart devices for homes. light the smart switch, smart plugs, security cameras etc.
Can you use the in-ceiling speakers as your rear surround instead of the in-wall ones? Reason why I need to pivot it down to my listening position and the in wall version can’t do.