Did you bother to read Cochrane review on MBSR? My recollection of the gist was that it resulted in small effect sizes based on generally poor quality evidence. Of course if you read Jon's books for yourself you can kind of see why. I think his Beyond Thunderdome book was the wishy-washiest book I've ever read. And you can learn how to do anapanasati in about five minutes. And he sounds stoned to me, you? You know, how you have that friend who just took a hit and starts rattling on?
@starfish3419 Jon's book on meditation is one of the worst I've read. I certainly wouldn't say I learned anything from it. Gunaratana's was dramatically better.
@starfish3419 It hasn't escaped me that Buddhism is amongst the most self-congratulatory of religions. Y'all are always talking about how deep your thoughts are. When asked what it is, generally it's just, "life is suffering, it isn't permanent, and you're not real anyway." Doesn't sound as wise, as say Bertrand Russell. So what, specifically is did you learn with your "inner work" that I should find incomprehensible? How long did you have to lay there?
It's 8 billion people, not 7. You guys haven't been keeping up. I guess that's what you get from over-meditating and reading poetry. I do detect a strong lack of ecological awareness with his general kumbayaism, but what's any of that matter, we aren't real, lol
@@seyedfowad Does it? I've been giving this much musing. It seems to me blind-compassion only furthers overpopulation and resultant pollution, scarce resources, and biodiversity loss. All of which will bring upon mass starvation. Very soon. Such realizations require outward, environmental awareness.
Great interview-and Jon Kabat-Zinn has one of the kindest, gentlest, most healing voices on the planet. 🥲
No he doesn’t. His voice is somewhat annoying.
Thank you for shedding light on this matter.
Astonishing!👏👏👏
What an impactful conversation. One of your best interviews, IMO, Dan--thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
❤loved it
Jon Kabat-Zinn is the real-life Gandalf/Dumbledore/Obi-Wan Kanobi of The Meditation world!🙂
Did you bother to read Cochrane review on MBSR? My recollection of the gist was that it resulted in small effect sizes based on generally poor quality evidence. Of course if you read Jon's books for yourself you can kind of see why. I think his Beyond Thunderdome book was the wishy-washiest book I've ever read.
And you can learn how to do anapanasati in about five minutes. And he sounds stoned to me, you? You know, how you have that friend who just took a hit and starts rattling on?
@starfish3419 Jon's book on meditation is one of the worst I've read. I certainly wouldn't say I learned anything from it. Gunaratana's was dramatically better.
Shavasana is certainly not the hardest pose. Certainly not without a lot of imagination
@starfish3419 It hasn't escaped me that Buddhism is amongst the most self-congratulatory of religions. Y'all are always talking about how deep your thoughts are. When asked what it is, generally it's just, "life is suffering, it isn't permanent, and you're not real anyway." Doesn't sound as wise, as say Bertrand Russell.
So what, specifically is did you learn with your "inner work" that I should find incomprehensible? How long did you have to lay there?
I'm thinking Dan's anxiety would benefit from more physical exercise than doubling down on mindfulness. Seems both of you guys are fully unaware
We'll share your advice with him!
It's 8 billion people, not 7. You guys haven't been keeping up. I guess that's what you get from over-meditating and reading poetry. I do detect a strong lack of ecological awareness with his general kumbayaism, but what's any of that matter, we aren't real, lol
@@seyedfowad Does it? I've been giving this much musing. It seems to me blind-compassion only furthers overpopulation and resultant pollution, scarce resources, and biodiversity loss. All of which will bring upon mass starvation. Very soon.
Such realizations require outward, environmental awareness.
@@seyedfowad You are just unenlightened. So sorry
@@seyedfowad Doesn't seem like it. Seems like y'all are just closing your eyes and making believe. Literally
Sounds like the perfect NPC mindset
@@seyedfowad I think the whole "present" thing is overrated, not to mention a fad. Also I think you're overthinking a lot. Edibles?