I welded vertical up pulse 0.45 100s wire with 95/5 gas for years on 3-4 inch thick material UT butt welds on the new zumwalt class destroyers for the navy. The navy required us to use this process due to heat input. My god it’s soooo slow lol. I know your the pro here. But I’d like to make a suggestion to you. When running vertical up you can’t spend any time at all in the middle. Side to side. Hold left 123 hold right 123 and literally skip right over the middle. Your bead will flatten right out nice. I mean no disrespect to your welding i just wanted to share that suggestion to you.
I would like a video explaining trim and wire speed with the pulse setting. Also explain the different shrouds. I did not know there were different applications of use with different shrouds. Good video! I have been practicing uphill mig, to me it’s harder than how you guys make it look.
the crackling is because your trim is set too low ... set it to 1.05 or so not .99 and you will seethe is no crackling. you dont have enough arc voltage that is why its cracking .... also people pass structural test with short circuit mig every day .... just saying ... granted the spray pulse is better and hotter and has better penetration but short circuit can be done .... also if you have enough arc voltage you can spray with 75/25. Absolutely hands down it is possible. now is it smart or desired ? that is a different story .... you are running the risk of undercut and you have a less stable arc running 75/25 but it can be done..... add about 3-5 volts to make up the difference in gas ..... Over all good video - good arc shots, good demonstration, nice weld.
At that point just use .035 or .045 dual shield flux core. Pulsed mig equipment is overly expensive and fragile. It’s a great process for some applications but for most things it isn’t worth it. How do I know? I’ve been using it for 10 years now and the quality hasn’t really changed but the productivity has dropped. The cost of machinery along with more maintenance also didn’t help.
I've only gotten to do spray/pulse spray on a couple tests. Loved the process, passed the test, didn't take the job. My next MIG machine I hope to have a pulse spray capability. Since you are talking about welding thicker metal how about go the other way and weld some thinner stuff with .023 wire. I'm doing that now and seem to be fighting wire feeding issues/speed.
Coupin bwahahah. Fantastic job as usual! Thanks for the content. Not sure if I missed it ... but would love to see a video or section of video on how to use acetone... wether its spray, soak or wipe. Thanks
you said half inch to 3 quarters inch for good fusion and for it to run good.. would it matter if you're even closer? I always find my self just getting so close with the cup almost touching. almost just burying the gun tip in the joint. or say you're in a corner joint could you just put the cup in there and drag it if it's that close?
the spray arc does not have enough "room" to develop right .... also the longer the arc is the more voltage you have ... the crackling is not desirable when welding pulse spray. longer arc and longer stick out helps with more arc voltage and less crackling .... besides trim could be a little higher that would help too ..... if you find yourself very close and the cup almost toughing or even dragging are you welding spray,? pulse? or "regular" short arc (short circuit mig)? If you weld "classic" "regular" mig no spray no pulse you are supposed to be super close !!!!! it is a totally different welding process ....
@@ZILAwelds thanks i recently started working at a shop where all they do is pulse mig with lincions the other shop i worked at for 4 yrs was just short arc. this explains quite a bit and makes sense why I saw a guy with such a big stick out distance and different looking welding puddle and weld and how it was running.
My question is does that stick out you mentioned apply for all pulse welding positions because I work for a company that only uses pulse mig welding and sometimes I get that cracking sound in the flat and horizontal and I am tired of cleaning a shit ton of bb’s. Also I was told you are not supposed to put any motion into your pulse weld bead...thoughts and advice please
Charles Baker yes that stickout applies to all positions on pulse. You won’t need much manipulation in flat and horizontal but you will have to oscillate slightly getting out of position.
Charles Baker overhead not so much, vertical definitely needs some oscillation/manipulation. I wouldn’t do pulse vertical down unless it’s an STT mode.
Spray is one of the transmissions for mig welding. Verses short circuit where the wire touches the puddle/plate to ground out, spray melts the wire above the plate into a pseudo mist just from the heat of the arc. It is commonly used for thicker material, like he mentioned in the video, where short circuit would leave less than desirable penetration into the base metal. Leading to lack of fusion. The pulse aspect of it makes the machine pulse (kinda like turning the machine on and off very very fast) to the point where spray arc (normally limited to flat and horizontal) can be ran in a 3g/f and 4g/f position just from having those short milliseconds of time to cool the puddle down enough not to just drop out.
Flat horizontal or vertical, any one or combination of those would be great, we use it to build overhead cranes and heavy fab With CO2 shielding gas, would be cool to see how an expert runs it settings and etc.
145 on the wire speed is slow for .045 wire. Its out of the low end of the parameters at my job for pulse. With our Lincolns, that only puts out like 90A.
How about some cool weld.com labeled welding clothes, jackets and other stuff, and welding accessories? I know I buy some and it could help to support the channel.
Beach&BoardFan no, short circuit is just that, it creates a dead short about 200 times a second so the puddle doesn’t have the same energy as a spray application would. Spray has much more heat.
Jason Becker Absolutely correct, if you ever look at the results from an impact test , charpy test, you will see the lb/ft values are a lot lower on the root ran in short circuit and get higher throught the layers of pulse weld and sub arc because the joules input are a lot higher with the other processes.
Jason Becker I think I got it, sort circuit doesn't have an arc, it needs to contact the material to pass current. But the pulse, arcs even before the wire gets to the base material?
Nice work, but what happen to the 2nd fill cap pass. 🥴 So I'm going to get my request in. 1" thick sidewall A36 pipe say 10" Diameter V groove welded to T1 steel on a trunion. 2mm gap. 1st pass STT root, then 045 finished. 😏 Just a typical day at the office. 😄
Started with pulsed mig at work recently, have a job coming up involving some heavy plate and pipe nozzles. Company have bought 2x Miller pipeworx welders. Am having real trouble getting settings and a rough technique for a 3 pass 10mm fillet (pipe to plate) in 5F position. Getting very high crowned beads at moment, and not very good root pen. Need some ideas for starting points with settings. Ie feed speed, arc length control, arc width control, gas flow rate, and Somebody help please lol. Also have to fill and cap a 4" 6g butt, and need settings idea for that too. Thank you 👍
Bob still a hiding undercover brother? Get well Bob! Is that pulse still like the axial plasma droplet cone? Looked more like short circuit from my view.
What happens if you can’t get that mixture? Because I don’t get large enough tanks, they won’t fill it with anything more than 75/25. Yes, I can get pure argon, and a couple of other gasses.
Nope, against their policy. I have 80cf bottles, because it’s what I can get in the car. I’m not a pro user. I’m retired, so bigger bottles aren’t necessary, though if they would deliver to a residential area, I would get them.
Nice groung Cable n clamp, personally I don't care, for welding, in the mig variety , but nice job, I guess, mig way too easy, I need a, a challenge 6010, maybe 6011 yes😬
Bernie Clark it’s not an earth lead. It’s a voltage sensing lead. They are used on external wirefeeders so that the machine has a reading of actual voltage so it can keep it constant.
Running pure argon with MIG gives you a weld with a very high crown (center of your weld) and not as much penetration. The CO2 helps to wet out the edges better and definitely increases penetration.
Nice video as far as welding content. But what's with the overly dramatic grinding sequence at the start? Do we really need that reality show type TV stuff here? We do need more Coopins though🤣
Where is Bob Moffat i miss him he used to make better videos showing all settings on the machine and other usefull info and better analisys of each weld pass, i dont like these new video formats that are rushed and not much learning i feel like im watching some guy vlogging working that just recorded himself with not much infoand details on the welds.
Jerry Baker please don’t take my word for it. Feel free to do some additional research. Here is a paragraph from Lincoln Electrics GMAW guide that has a pretty good explanation. “Axial spray metal transfer is the higher energy mode of metal transfer, whereby a continuously fed solid or metal-cored wire electrode is deposited at a higher energy level, resulting in a stream of small molten droplets. The droplets are propelled axially across the arc. Axial spray transfer is the higher energy form of GMAW metal transfer. To achieve axial spray transfer, binary blends containing argon + 1-5 % oxygen or argon + CO2, where the CO2 levels are 18% or less. Axial spray transfer is supported by either the use of solid wire or metal-cored electrodes. Axial spray transfer may be used with all of the common alloys including: aluminum, magnesium, carbon steel, stainless steel, nickel alloys, and copper alloys.”
If you want more information on Fume Extraction systems, visit: www.praxairwelding.com/automation/fume-removal/tip-extraction-collector
What about the porosity at the end of the weld. Caused by the fume extraction?
I don't care for wire feed welding but that pulsed spray transfer is impressive. Another nice video.
I welded vertical up pulse 0.45 100s wire with 95/5 gas for years on 3-4 inch thick material UT butt welds on the new zumwalt class destroyers for the navy. The navy required us to use this process due to heat input. My god it’s soooo slow lol. I know your the pro here. But I’d like to make a suggestion to you. When running vertical up you can’t spend any time at all in the middle. Side to side. Hold left 123 hold right 123 and literally skip right over the middle. Your bead will flatten right out nice. I mean no disrespect to your welding i just wanted to share that suggestion to you.
Good ole hii
@@bricelupico6016 haha I knew who he was but I worked in the aluminum shop and ab.
I would like a video explaining trim and wire speed with the pulse setting. Also explain the different shrouds. I did not know there were different applications of use with different shrouds. Good video! I have been practicing uphill mig, to me it’s harder than how you guys make it look.
Trim is basically voltage, and it also adjusts arc length
I believe the shroud is for the fume extractor behind the nozzle
You are the first person on TH-cam using the grinder correct. Even the Pferd guy can learn from you. They all ingrease the bumbs and dents.
amazing shots and information! i have watched this over and over just to see it...
I got an everlast pulse mig welder a little while back. I haven't used the pulse function yet but from your video that feature looks very useful.
Awesome video. we need more spray transfer vids!!!👊
Sure do I'd like to see him try the 2g cwb test in spray mode
We want to see more pulsed welding videos! Can you do “trim” adjustments and “sharpness” with automated travel speed, inside and outside corners?
Trim is only for spray transfer not pulse. Learned that today.
I weld with pulse mig at my job it's not a bad process. We use 95% Argon 5%CO2 as our gas mix
Great video, good info. I miss Bob, but he may have to up his game to give us the information content you're bringing to the table. Nicely done.
murphymb thank you sir, I’m sure that Bob is more than capable of your request.
That machine has a vertical up pulse program amd it runs very nice can you do a video like that thank u much
the crackling is because your trim is set too low ... set it to 1.05 or so not .99 and you will seethe is no crackling. you dont have enough arc voltage that is why its cracking .... also people pass structural test with short circuit mig every day .... just saying ... granted the spray pulse is better and hotter and has better penetration but short circuit can be done .... also if you have enough arc voltage you can spray with 75/25. Absolutely hands down it is possible. now is it smart or desired ? that is a different story .... you are running the risk of undercut and you have a less stable arc running 75/25 but it can be done..... add about 3-5 volts to make up the difference in gas .....
Over all good video - good arc shots, good demonstration, nice weld.
zila whats up bro
i agree
It’s crazy i came across this vid. This my upcoming weld test 😬imma just do the 1 Bead cap to get it over with 😩
Very useful info, thanks for sharing.
At that point just use .035 or .045 dual shield flux core. Pulsed mig equipment is overly expensive and fragile. It’s a great process for some applications but for most things it isn’t worth it. How do I know? I’ve been using it for 10 years now and the quality hasn’t really changed but the productivity has dropped. The cost of machinery along with more maintenance also didn’t help.
bojengels1 it will depend on what the WPS says. We’re just showing how to do it for anyone who needs it.
Great content! The intro music was super.
Or try welding .033 pipe with .035 Wire using rapid X at 350 inches and .85 trim gas should be 7525 at 50CFH this is also one of my tests I took
Miss BOB has was interesting.
What happened to Bob did he retire? I hope he's doing well
@@manuelmendoza3555 He said he had family issues to attend to and needed time off.
I've only gotten to do spray/pulse spray on a couple tests. Loved the process, passed the test, didn't take the job. My next MIG machine I hope to have a pulse spray capability.
Since you are talking about welding thicker metal how about go the other way and weld some thinner stuff with .023 wire. I'm doing that now and seem to be fighting wire feeding issues/speed.
Forgive me for sounding ignorant, but where's Bob? Has something happened to him? Is he alright?
Daniel McAninch Bob is fine. He’s taking some time off and will be back in the fall.
Awww
Try this its required for our weld test Lincoln rapid x 400 inches 1.0 trim lap joint 1/8 plate overhead 75/25 gas
We did Rapid X at 800 inches on 1/8 check out the video. th-cam.com/video/rAvlYgabAH8/w-d-xo.html
What kind of gun angle are you using?
Coupin bwahahah. Fantastic job as usual! Thanks for the content. Not sure if I missed it ... but would love to see a video or section of video on how to use acetone... wether its spray, soak or wipe. Thanks
Yoooo I just started mig at my school so I’m tryna see a lot of this
watch your stick out
bead sequence
gas
wfs and volts
its alot easier than stick man you have better control over your puddle
Dosent the Lincoln do double pulse? Much better for that weld almost as good as dule sheld for vertical up
What kind of settings would you use for .035 wire????
you said half inch to 3 quarters inch for good fusion and for it to run good.. would it matter if you're even closer? I always find my self just getting so close with the cup almost touching. almost just burying the gun tip in the joint. or say you're in a corner joint could you just put the cup in there and drag it if it's that close?
Tip will heat up causing feed problems
@@clevelandmortician3887 thanks that explains some things.
the spray arc does not have enough "room" to develop right .... also the longer the arc is the more voltage you have ... the crackling is not desirable when welding pulse spray. longer arc and longer stick out helps with more arc voltage and less crackling .... besides trim could be a little higher that would help too .....
if you find yourself very close and the cup almost toughing or even dragging are you welding spray,? pulse? or "regular" short arc (short circuit mig)?
If you weld "classic" "regular" mig no spray no pulse you are supposed to be super close !!!!! it is a totally different welding process ....
@@ZILAwelds thanks i recently started working at a shop where all they do is pulse mig with lincions the other shop i worked at for 4 yrs was just short arc. this explains quite a bit and makes sense why I saw a guy with such a big stick out distance and different looking welding puddle and weld and how it was running.
My question is does that stick out you mentioned apply for all pulse welding positions because I work for a company that only uses pulse mig welding and sometimes I get that cracking sound in the flat and horizontal and I am tired of cleaning a shit ton of bb’s. Also I was told you are not supposed to put any motion into your pulse weld bead...thoughts and advice please
Charles Baker yes that stickout applies to all positions on pulse. You won’t need much manipulation in flat and horizontal but you will have to oscillate slightly getting out of position.
So basically if I was doing overhead and uphill I would need to oscillate and maybe downhill as well right?
Charles Baker overhead not so much, vertical definitely needs some oscillation/manipulation. I wouldn’t do pulse vertical down unless it’s an STT mode.
Thank you so much Mr. Becker your advice has helped a lot and I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to help me out. Again thank you.
What happened to Bob is everything OK???
Very new to welding. When you say spray what does that mean and does the welder you are using have a pulse setting or is there something I'm missing?
Spray is one of the transmissions for mig welding. Verses short circuit where the wire touches the puddle/plate to ground out, spray melts the wire above the plate into a pseudo mist just from the heat of the arc. It is commonly used for thicker material, like he mentioned in the video, where short circuit would leave less than desirable penetration into the base metal. Leading to lack of fusion. The pulse aspect of it makes the machine pulse (kinda like turning the machine on and off very very fast) to the point where spray arc (normally limited to flat and horizontal) can be ran in a 3g/f and 4g/f position just from having those short milliseconds of time to cool the puddle down enough not to just drop out.
I’m sure this has been requested before but if you guys could do a 1/16 dual shield flux core video that would be awesome.
It's in the works. Any specific application or position?
Flat horizontal or vertical, any one or combination of those would be great, we use it to build overhead cranes and heavy fab With CO2 shielding gas, would be cool to see how an expert runs it settings and etc.
Where can I get a clamp like that? The clamp he used to tack up.
145 on the wire speed is slow for .045 wire. Its out of the low end of the parameters at my job for pulse. With our Lincolns, that only puts out like 90A.
How about some cool weld.com labeled welding clothes, jackets and other stuff, and welding accessories? I know I buy some and it could help to support the channel.
Solar2go I like the way you think. I’ll see what we can do.
You're timing is timely my friend. We will be making an announcement in the next week or so. Stay tuned.
Why does pulse have better fusion than a constant current short circuit?
Wouldnt short circuit put more heat into the weld, having no gap in power.
Beach&BoardFan no, short circuit is just that, it creates a dead short about 200 times a second so the puddle doesn’t have the same energy as a spray application would. Spray has much more heat.
Jason Becker Absolutely correct, if you ever look at the results from an impact test , charpy test, you will see the lb/ft values are a lot lower on the root ran in short circuit and get higher throught the layers of pulse weld and sub arc because the joules input are a lot higher with the other processes.
Jason Becker I think I got it, sort circuit doesn't have an arc, it needs to contact the material to pass current. But the pulse, arcs even before the wire gets to the base material?
Beach&BoardFan short circuit does have an arc, the mode of transfer just doesn’t have heat (amperage) as spray.
darn I was going to pulsed this weekend on a 1/4" mild stl. and I only have 75/25. but I also have 100% Aragon. can I use that On spray.
I need a weld.com sticker!!
What wire feed speed and voltage would you recommend starting on 3/16 steel? There's no trim rather arc control. It's a miller. Thank you.
Nice work, but what happen to the 2nd fill cap pass. 🥴 So I'm going to get my request in. 1" thick sidewall A36 pipe say 10" Diameter V groove welded to T1 steel on a trunion. 2mm gap. 1st pass STT root, then 045 finished. 😏 Just a typical day at the office. 😄
0:39 Wait what is that, oh that looks interesting as hell! I want!
It's a Pferd Combi Click system
Those things are awesome! Have to use the grey colored ones, they last forever and cut fast if you don't lay into them hard
A local shop has a 3G open root down pulse on 1" plate, how do you keep from getting suck back or a concave root with pulse?
Awesome thank you good video
Can you show how to weld a pipe with puls-mig super duplex 2509
Started with pulsed mig at work recently, have a job coming up involving some heavy plate and pipe nozzles.
Company have bought 2x Miller pipeworx welders.
Am having real trouble getting settings and a rough technique for a 3 pass 10mm fillet (pipe to plate) in 5F position. Getting very high crowned beads at moment, and not very good root pen. Need some ideas for starting points with settings. Ie feed speed, arc length control, arc width control, gas flow rate, and
Somebody help please lol.
Also have to fill and cap a 4" 6g butt, and need settings idea for that too.
Thank you 👍
is that a custom made clamp?
President lincoln no, it’s a voltage sensing lead. Very common on external wire feeders.
@@GodslilRedneck23 thanks
First time I’ve ever seen someone pulse uphill vert
Bob still a hiding undercover brother? Get well Bob! Is that pulse still like the axial plasma droplet cone? Looked more like short circuit from my view.
i would like you to show us a video of repair weld to oils tools,or welds whith tungsten carbide in oil tools thaks
I'm curious about 3g and 4g metalcore? I've never done it out of position
Carl Reavis Bob recently did a video on 4F metalcore. I’ll see what we can do about setting up some grove welds.
What about the porosity towards the end of the first cap?
We're just going to pretend it never happened.
Now I remember why I hate pulse
Dang buzzing
Used to weld ally street lights with pulse set up
Nice video. Maybe one with pulse mig on the root pass?Or stt? And fcaw in 5G..?There´s not much stuff on TH-cam. Thanks.
Is that "angry wasp" or "dog tootin'" sound? Maybe it's either. I'm sure I've heard this noise emitting from ChuckE2009's dog Lucky.
What do the different shrouds do?
You didnt show the final result, and wheres BOB?
Taking some time off. Should be back in September.
How come no mention of volt setting?
Serious shops the realist pulse spray mig will be left behind.
Something that heavy, uphill, dual shield wire is the way to go.
Why? We use pulse mig on 100% UTs on submarines on over 1" thick plates.
Bryce Woolston I didn’t mean “realist”, I mean “resist”. I guess my auto correct did me a solid there eh?
Does it ,matter how far away your ground clamp is?
Some people believe it does due to the current creating magnetism, but physics wise, I don't think that's how it works
What happens if you can’t get that mixture? Because I don’t get large enough tanks, they won’t fill it with anything more than 75/25. Yes, I can get pure argon, and a couple of other gasses.
I'm a little bit puzzled by your supplier. 90/10, 98/2 should be available in cylinders same as O2 bottles you use with a cutting torch.
Nope, against their policy. I have 80cf bottles, because it’s what I can get in the car. I’m not a pro user. I’m retired, so bigger bottles aren’t necessary, though if they would deliver to a residential area, I would get them.
Mel Gross check another supplier. I have an 80cf. and my supplier fills mine with 90/10 all the time.
Tell Todd tp leave the little slips in, that's the way we talk to each other. You're not here to be a movie star
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Nice groung Cable n clamp, personally I don't care, for welding, in the mig variety , but nice job, I guess, mig way too easy, I need a, a challenge 6010, maybe 6011 yes😬
So where's Bob, did he retire? We want Bob back.
To me the "stringers" just looked like small or half vertical weaves.
I thought the pulsing sound was a fart 😂
Hello from Bernie. Your earth lead and clamp looks a bit minimal.
Bernie Clark it’s not an earth lead. It’s a voltage sensing lead. They are used on external wirefeeders so that the machine has a reading of actual voltage so it can keep it constant.
If one has a multi-process machine (MTS) and if one is a cheap ba$t!d can one use pure Argon for spray transfer MIG? That way one gas for MIG or TIG!
Running pure argon with MIG gives you a weld with a very high crown (center of your weld) and not as much penetration. The CO2 helps to wet out the edges better and definitely increases penetration.
Annoing sound, but good result. I like pulse MIG for plates over 1/8''.
Nice video as far as welding content. But what's with the overly dramatic grinding sequence at the start? Do we really need that reality show type TV stuff here? We do need more Coopins though🤣
Where is Bob Moffat i miss him he used to make better videos showing all settings on the machine and other usefull info and better analisys of each weld pass, i dont like these new video formats that are rushed and not much learning i feel like im watching some guy vlogging working that just recorded himself with not much infoand details on the welds.
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Terrible
You are wrong 75/25 does work
Jerry Baker not for a true spray transfer you need 82% or higher.
Jerry Baker please don’t take my word for it. Feel free to do some additional research. Here is a paragraph from Lincoln Electrics GMAW guide that has a pretty good explanation.
“Axial spray metal transfer is the higher energy mode of metal transfer, whereby a continuously fed solid or metal-cored wire electrode is deposited at a higher energy level, resulting in a stream of small molten droplets. The droplets are propelled axially across the arc.
Axial spray transfer is the higher energy form of GMAW metal transfer. To achieve axial spray transfer, binary blends containing argon + 1-5 % oxygen or argon + CO2, where the CO2 levels are 18% or less. Axial spray transfer is supported by either the use of solid wire or metal-cored electrodes. Axial spray transfer may be used with all of the common alloys including: aluminum, magnesium, carbon steel, stainless steel, nickel alloys, and copper alloys.”
Skip the noir music in the first 2 minutes. Stick to welding.
Should’ve cut and bend it