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So I have both cards and here's what I think: Platinum > Aspire only if you can use at least $695 of the credits that you usually spend on it anyways. Depends also if your home airport actually has these centurion or any lounge access. For example, Newark airport has nada and it sucks so I actually end up flying out of JFK to use these lounges. Also do you usually travel alone or with a huge family? If your traveling alone or with a partner then lounge access is easy to justify. But if you have a family of 4+ and they don't have lounge access, then it might be more difficult unless you're okay paying a fee for each person. Being in NY though, its easier to justify the platinum because I can go to the only Centurion Lounge restaurant in 1 Vanderbilt (Anthony fly here and try it out: Not cheap at all but worth the experience) and NY also has one of the bigger airports (JFK). *From Anthony's old video*: I also keep the platinum for any emergencies outside of the US: medical, legal, financial or anything bad, it gives me a little peace of mind that AMEX actually can help in someway. Why the Aspire?: I decided to get the Aspire without the welcome offer (was in popup jail) because I travel to Asia a ton and let me tell you, being a Hilton diamond member over there is 1000% much better than the US. They treat you like a true VIP and upgrade you to the best suites available + random things like free wine/spirits (instead of a free bottled water at check in). Let alone give you late check out of up to 4PM, sometimes 5PM depending on your location. Also hotel's in my area (NYC) are so pricey, usually >$500/night which makes the free certificate pretty much cover the annual fee of the aspire. A little plus for the clear credit is that I use the platinum clear for me and the aspire clear for my gf. Little tip for newer diamond members: Call the Hilton Diamond Desk and ask them to put in a request for a room upgrade upon check in. I use this a lot because for the life of me, I get so nervous when I ask 😅😂. I've been upgraded every time both in the US and Asia. Haven't tried Europe yet. In conclusion, I actually value these 2 cards pretty evenly just because of my spending and life habits. End of the day, I get more value out of both the cards annual fees by at least $300+. Love the videos as always Anthony!
I have both as well for a family of 3. I’ve already gotten so much value out of these cards. The only credit I’m not using is Peleton! Lounge access has been great considering what we would pay for food and drink at an airport cafe. It justifies spending $30 for my child’s access as I would have spent for a Carl’s Jr. chicken nugget meal for my child and gives us a comfortable place to relax. As for the Aspire card I’ve used Diamond member status and have amassed 4 Free Night Certificates (Hilton Honors, Surpass, Aspire and earning one after spending 30k on the Surpass card. These were accumulated during their Welcome Bonus Points plus Free Night Certificate promotion that ended 7/19/23). We’re taking an aspirational travel trip to Anguilla staying at LXR, Zemi Beach House all on points and utilizing the 5th night free promotion. I’ve gotten so much value from these cards!
Damnnn Victor I loved reading this! You really thought this through but the most fascinating part I’ve found, was you said that internationally commas were you found 1000% bitter experience being a diamond member. That pretty much confirms what I’ve thought and heard over the years, and a very very good data point to follow from your experience! That’s pretty awesome that you get upgraded fairly often too. Thank you for sharing this experience, Victor I really appreciate it!
@@AnthonyVenture continue to put out great content like you do…there’s now way I would have amassed 4 Hilton FNC and 500k pts between 6/1/23 - 11/28/23 without listening to knowledgeable content creators such as yourself! Keep up the great work!
Hilton has lounges at their international properties. I stayed at the Conrad in Singapore and Dubai both had lounges with free breakfast and evening appetizers and drinks.
For Saks, most people think clothes or perfume. They also have a nice selection of home goods (Enameled cast iron pots, knives, etc.) It's a good credit.
I switched from Platinum to Aspire and Surpass Combo. Got sick of chasing benefit and clipping coupons on Platinum that I wouldn’t have used otherwise. You can get a chunk of the streaming credit back with Blue Preferred. Funny thing is that I would always be converting AMEX points to Hilton Honors points, so just so much easier to go for the combo and 350K in points and benefits of both cards.
You know Len, that above a lot of things is really what I can see for my future. Drop the Platinum, get the Aspire + upgrade back to the Surpass, I think I’d get more use out of it anyway hmm. Oh wow, so you really used those points for Hilton only wow haha, makes sense for you for sure!
Great video Anthony! They are both great cards for travel. I just wish that the benefits with the Aspire weren’t as broken up as they are right now. It’s not cheap either at $550! The CSR gives you better flexibility for the same price.
Thanks Joe! And yes I agree, would love just 2 free night certificates and call it a day haha. Yes very true, CSR seems to be gaining some popularity for sure and I’m beginning to see why!
I really considered it and realized like, ehhh it’s really not much! I don’t want to be killed for saying it but I think gold is great enough ha. Thanks Nubian for having my back 🤣
I have had diamond status organically now since 2021 and you’re right that it’s not much. I did get a suite upgrade recently and think it helps, but you will likely need to ask still. I think where your logic relies on is whether you can use the FNC effectively and whether you really value lounge access. Using the FNC for a hotel with a cash price of $381 is leaving money on the table as you could be using that for a stay at a $1,000+/night Conrad or Waldorf, but of course that’s only valuable if you really would stay there. The platinum makes more sense for most people, although the Aspire may show a higher net annual fee as you could milk it for a $1,000 night and if you can use the credits
Totally agreed and kudos to organic Diamond Wright! Yes I think that’s very true, really depends on where you’ll realistically be able to use that FNC. Personally I know I can squeeze out at least that $350-$400 hotel stay but maybe not everyone, and I’m also missing out on $1k+ so there’s always that as you said. Great points Wright!
Were they?? Hahahah, man if I spoke that well then I don’t know, maybe I was in the perfect zone 🤣 But honestly just honest thoughts on the Platinum + leaning a little more to the Aspire ha. Thanks as always Victor man!!
Love the comparison here Anthony! I'd definitely like to add both of these Cards as part of my end-game strategy at some point despite the high annual fees. However, if I had to pick only one, I think I'd go with the Amex Plat just for the higher flexibility and being able to utilize Amex's travel partners, the best lounge access, etc. Of course though, you want to make sure the Credits & Benefits make sense organically, so if you are someone who frequently stays at Hilton Hotels for business, then understand why for some people the Aspire could make more sense. Great video as always!
Absolutely Matt! But I’m actually surprised to hear that, I would have figured you’d be all in Aspire hmm. Totally makes sense, that flexibility is everything, thanks Matt!
On the $30K spend, you would also get a minimum of 3x HH points, or 90K along with the FNC. If you value the FNC at $500 and a point at half a cent, that would get you $500 + $450 = $950 in value as compared to $600. There is the catch that you have to use that value at a Hilton and enjoy staying at their luxury brands, though. YMMV.
Totally agreed on that!! I guess if you really only wanted to spend $30k on one card, Aspire all the way for sure! I would hope someone would get like 8 cards for that spend and get way better returns but I’m with you on that math beating the Platinum. Thanks Zenichiro!
I like both cards, Hilton diamond has the free upgraded WiFi. It's a use it if you have it kind of thing, at some properties the standard WiFi can be dismal and the upgraded makes it so so
Currently own the Amex Gold. I travel 3 weeks a month and mostly stay in Hiltons. I’ll hit my SUB total in about a month so then my plan was to sign up for an Amex Platinum. The question is do I grab a Surpass or Aspire now to maximize Hilton points until I hit the SUB total for Gold then get the Platinum.
Well, I believe that welcome offer still lasts until mid January for the Hilton cards, so I would probably wait a couple of weeks, hit your welcome offer now on the gold, and then before the offer expires, apply for the Hilton cards. Also, it hasn’t happened yet, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they change the lifetime language, so that if you get the Aspire first, you will not be eligible for the Surpass welcome offer etc. Thanks Rick! Let me know what you decide to do!
I’m so glad you said we’re in the classroom for that one 🤣🤣🤣 Yes I’m 50/50 on it but I do think I’d have more fun more often with the Hilton card, but with the platinum I would have even more awesome times but much less frequently.
Anthony- I wish the Aspire card also received 7x points for gas and groceries, not just dining…. The surpass earns more on gas and groceries (6x) than the aspire earns ….
Lounges are great if you can actually use them. I have a TERRIBLE priority pass with practically no food at my home airport. Seems like majority of the time I fly through other airports with no lounges, lounges too far away in other terminals, or I just don't have time based on layover times. So a bit overrated but great the few times I could use them over the last year. I don't have the Aspire yet but if I can get past pop up jail I will have it eventually.
That’s a really good point, sometimes I think we forget that some of our flights just never have lounges, maybe aren’t through major airports like yourself etc. I wonder how often that happens to Platinum holders. Thanks 412!!
@@AnthonyVenture sadly happens to me too often. Even if going through say Atlanta (I am on east coast), which is one of the largest airports in the country, and their only Priority Pass lounge for example is in the International Terminal.
I know for shame really Gemini, I should be taken out back and beaten for losing out on money hahaha. I just never flew United so it never came across my mind to do that honestly. I probably should honestly. Thanks Gemini!
You have a Tesla but the 10 cents off on each gallon of gas at mobile Exxon from Walmart+ is making a huge dent in the annual fee for me on the platinum (and i get paramount+)
See that’s something I’m just not aware of, good point! But really, how much do you think you can knock off the annual fee with just the 10c? And yes, you love your Aspire FNCs haha.
@@AnthonyVenture We have 3 cars and fill up once a week, one car twice a week... But even 2 cars getting filled up once a week with a 15 gallon tank is 30gal X 10 cents X 52 weeks = $156, then pair that with a high gas multiplier card (you can pay with any card, doesn't have to be the platinum) you're squeezing a little extra juice out of it.
That’s pretty good math wow!! And that really is lowering that annual fee a good amount, very good points here! Man if I had gas, I would totally be doing this.
The schwab platnium, transfering MR points and the return on your brokerage account, can cover the annual fee. With a steady 7-9% return annually for ETF and mutual funds- that reason alone is why I am keeping it. I use almost 100% of my plat/gold MR points to transfer to schwab. I am team Plat, UNLESS the raise the AF past the $695, then we have to🗣🗣 talk🦃🦃🦃
Hmm that’s so funny Jazzy, from my old video talking about the Schwab to now you being a full on Schwab Fan! Haha. For sure, but do you earn enough MR to offset or fully pay that $695 annual fee from the returns? If so that’s wild.
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So I have both cards and here's what I think:
Platinum > Aspire only if you can use at least $695 of the credits that you usually spend on it anyways. Depends also if your home airport actually has these centurion or any lounge access. For example, Newark airport has nada and it sucks so I actually end up flying out of JFK to use these lounges. Also do you usually travel alone or with a huge family? If your traveling alone or with a partner then lounge access is easy to justify. But if you have a family of 4+ and they don't have lounge access, then it might be more difficult unless you're okay paying a fee for each person. Being in NY though, its easier to justify the platinum because I can go to the only Centurion Lounge restaurant in 1 Vanderbilt (Anthony fly here and try it out: Not cheap at all but worth the experience) and NY also has one of the bigger airports (JFK). *From Anthony's old video*: I also keep the platinum for any emergencies outside of the US: medical, legal, financial or anything bad, it gives me a little peace of mind that AMEX actually can help in someway.
Why the Aspire?: I decided to get the Aspire without the welcome offer (was in popup jail) because I travel to Asia a ton and let me tell you, being a Hilton diamond member over there is 1000% much better than the US. They treat you like a true VIP and upgrade you to the best suites available + random things like free wine/spirits (instead of a free bottled water at check in). Let alone give you late check out of up to 4PM, sometimes 5PM depending on your location. Also hotel's in my area (NYC) are so pricey, usually >$500/night which makes the free certificate pretty much cover the annual fee of the aspire. A little plus for the clear credit is that I use the platinum clear for me and the aspire clear for my gf.
Little tip for newer diamond members: Call the Hilton Diamond Desk and ask them to put in a request for a room upgrade upon check in. I use this a lot because for the life of me, I get so nervous when I ask 😅😂. I've been upgraded every time both in the US and Asia. Haven't tried Europe yet.
In conclusion, I actually value these 2 cards pretty evenly just because of my spending and life habits. End of the day, I get more value out of both the cards annual fees by at least $300+.
Love the videos as always Anthony!
I have both as well for a family of 3. I’ve already gotten so much value out of these cards. The only credit I’m not using is Peleton! Lounge access has been great considering what we would pay for food and drink at an airport cafe. It justifies spending $30 for my child’s access as I would have spent for a Carl’s Jr. chicken nugget meal for my child and gives us a comfortable place to relax. As for the Aspire card I’ve used Diamond member status and have amassed 4 Free Night Certificates (Hilton Honors, Surpass, Aspire and earning one after spending 30k on the Surpass card. These were accumulated during their Welcome Bonus Points plus Free Night Certificate promotion that ended 7/19/23). We’re taking an aspirational travel trip to Anguilla staying at LXR, Zemi Beach House all on points and utilizing the 5th night free promotion. I’ve gotten so much value from these cards!
@@thomasalexander7395 That sounds amazing! Enjoy your travel!
Damnnn Victor I loved reading this! You really thought this through but the most fascinating part I’ve found, was you said that internationally commas were you found 1000% bitter experience being a diamond member. That pretty much confirms what I’ve thought and heard over the years, and a very very good data point to follow from your experience!
That’s pretty awesome that you get upgraded fairly often too.
Thank you for sharing this experience, Victor I really appreciate it!
Thomas over here killing it as well! Have fun with those 4 FNCs damn!!!
@@AnthonyVenture continue to put out great content like you do…there’s now way I would have amassed 4 Hilton FNC and 500k pts between 6/1/23 - 11/28/23 without listening to knowledgeable content creators such as yourself! Keep up the great work!
Hilton has lounges at their international properties. I stayed at the Conrad in Singapore and Dubai both had lounges with free breakfast and evening appetizers and drinks.
Yes I have heard that those are very nice, sad to see the more domestic ones go but I hope those stay up abroad! That seems awesome!
Thanks Ant!
For Saks, most people think clothes or perfume. They also have a nice selection of home goods (Enameled cast iron pots, knives, etc.) It's a good credit.
Absolutely! I still want to buy some of the food they have on there too haha.
Thanks Paul!
I switched from Platinum to Aspire and Surpass Combo. Got sick of chasing benefit and clipping coupons on Platinum that I wouldn’t have used otherwise. You can get a chunk of the streaming credit back with Blue Preferred. Funny thing is that I would always be converting AMEX points to Hilton Honors points, so just so much easier to go for the combo and 350K in points and benefits of both cards.
You know Len, that above a lot of things is really what I can see for my future. Drop the Platinum, get the Aspire + upgrade back to the Surpass, I think I’d get more use out of it anyway hmm.
Oh wow, so you really used those points for Hilton only wow haha, makes sense for you for sure!
Great video Anthony! They are both great cards for travel. I just wish that the benefits with the Aspire weren’t as broken up as they are right now. It’s not cheap either at $550! The CSR gives you better flexibility for the same price.
Thanks Joe! And yes I agree, would love just 2 free night certificates and call it a day haha.
Yes very true, CSR seems to be gaining some popularity for sure and I’m beginning to see why!
The Clear winner is me because I've had both for a while now hahaha. Salute. Good video
Which is your best card Sledge? Come on...put yourself out there and pick one :-) hehehe
@@JazzyMarineVet hahaha, without a second thought its the Amex Platinum!! Aspire is a very close second
Let’s go Jazzy for making Sledge pick in a world where he gets whatever he wants and has it all 🤣🤣🤣
Same, with no annual fee because I’m in the army. 100% profit! 😊
@@patrickmichel6713 Very true!! Free is amazing haha 🫡
The Hilton Diamond status bit had me cracking up😅... at the truth of it😎
I really considered it and realized like, ehhh it’s really not much! I don’t want to be killed for saying it but I think gold is great enough ha.
Thanks Nubian for having my back 🤣
@@AnthonyVenture anytime my friend😀
Discount tire already does free tire fixes
Oh wow I wasn’t aware of that David, good to know! I need some tire insurance from them on these Tesla wheels, very expensive 😩
Nice comparison video Tony! Sounds like someone needs to keep the Aspire and ditch the Platinum 😂! Or you could keep both and do some couponing haha!
I’m seriously considering canceling the Platinum for the time being and the getting an Aspire sometime next year honestly 🤣
Thanks Stan!
I have had diamond status organically now since 2021 and you’re right that it’s not much. I did get a suite upgrade recently and think it helps, but you will likely need to ask still. I think where your logic relies on is whether you can use the FNC effectively and whether you really value lounge access. Using the FNC for a hotel with a cash price of $381 is leaving money on the table as you could be using that for a stay at a $1,000+/night Conrad or Waldorf, but of course that’s only valuable if you really would stay there. The platinum makes more sense for most people, although the Aspire may show a higher net annual fee as you could milk it for a $1,000 night and if you can use the credits
Totally agreed and kudos to organic Diamond Wright!
Yes I think that’s very true, really depends on where you’ll realistically be able to use that FNC.
Personally I know I can squeeze out at least that $350-$400 hotel stay but maybe not everyone, and I’m also missing out on $1k+ so there’s always that as you said.
Great points Wright!
The credit card gods were shining down on you for helping everyone here understand the credit card game 😂
Were they?? Hahahah, man if I spoke that well then I don’t know, maybe I was in the perfect zone 🤣
But honestly just honest thoughts on the Platinum + leaning a little more to the Aspire ha.
Thanks as always Victor man!!
Love the comparison here Anthony! I'd definitely like to add both of these Cards as part of my end-game strategy at some point despite the high annual fees. However, if I had to pick only one, I think I'd go with the Amex Plat just for the higher flexibility and being able to utilize Amex's travel partners, the best lounge access, etc. Of course though, you want to make sure the Credits & Benefits make sense organically, so if you are someone who frequently stays at Hilton Hotels for business, then understand why for some people the Aspire could make more sense. Great video as always!
Absolutely Matt! But I’m actually surprised to hear that, I would have figured you’d be all in Aspire hmm.
Totally makes sense, that flexibility is everything, thanks Matt!
On the $30K spend, you would also get a minimum of 3x HH points, or 90K along with the FNC. If you value the FNC at $500 and a point at half a cent, that would get you $500 + $450 = $950 in value as compared to $600. There is the catch that you have to use that value at a Hilton and enjoy staying at their luxury brands, though. YMMV.
Totally agreed on that!! I guess if you really only wanted to spend $30k on one card, Aspire all the way for sure!
I would hope someone would get like 8 cards for that spend and get way better returns but I’m with you on that math beating the Platinum.
Thanks Zenichiro!
I like both cards, Hilton diamond has the free upgraded WiFi. It's a use it if you have it kind of thing, at some properties the standard WiFi can be dismal and the upgraded makes it so so
Good point! That would be a need for me but not always since cellular is not bad usually.
Thanks Johnny!
flight credit...United's cash bank was a super easy way for me to max that on my Platinum
Absolutely! Ton of people get value from that for sure. Thanks 412!
Currently own the Amex Gold. I travel 3 weeks a month and mostly stay in Hiltons. I’ll hit my SUB total in about a month so then my plan was to sign up for an Amex Platinum.
The question is do I grab a Surpass or Aspire now to maximize Hilton points until I hit the SUB total for Gold then get the Platinum.
Well, I believe that welcome offer still lasts until mid January for the Hilton cards, so I would probably wait a couple of weeks, hit your welcome offer now on the gold, and then before the offer expires, apply for the Hilton cards.
Also, it hasn’t happened yet, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they change the lifetime language, so that if you get the Aspire first, you will not be eligible for the Surpass welcome offer etc.
Thanks Rick! Let me know what you decide to do!
I chuckled at the part when you list the plat credits. I think I know the guy on the left 😂😅😂
I don’t have either card, but since I am still lukewarm on Hilton, it would probably be the plat.
I’m so glad you said we’re in the classroom for that one 🤣🤣🤣
Yes I’m 50/50 on it but I do think I’d have more fun more often with the Hilton card, but with the platinum I would have even more awesome times but much less frequently.
I just found the 150k plat offer in an incognito tab! Nice compairison, I think I may get the Aspire at some point
8 days late to this and you already got the card 🤣 - congrats Jake again!
@@AnthonyVenture Epic gamer moment
Anthony- I wish the Aspire card also received 7x points for gas and groceries, not just dining…. The surpass earns more on gas and groceries (6x) than the aspire earns ….
Same honestly, but I guess they needed some value add to the Surpass to entice folks. I’m with you though.
Thanks LEIT! 🕳️
I have neither card. I’m trying to get under 5/24. I do have the Amex Platinum Business Card and the Hilton Amex Business Card.
Am I remembering right that you got the Hilton Business Live when me and Stan were live and he convinced you Keith?
Wat I don’t recall ever seeing a suit. Networking… I mean you could but who’s really tryna do that at a centurion lounge 😂
At least the one I went to, I saw some suits, not everyone though haha.
Right?? I just want to do nothing and get some wine 🤣
Thanks Potatoooo!
Lounges are great if you can actually use them. I have a TERRIBLE priority pass with practically no food at my home airport. Seems like majority of the time I fly through other airports with no lounges, lounges too far away in other terminals, or I just don't have time based on layover times. So a bit overrated but great the few times I could use them over the last year. I don't have the Aspire yet but if I can get past pop up jail I will have it eventually.
That’s a really good point, sometimes I think we forget that some of our flights just never have lounges, maybe aren’t through major airports like yourself etc.
I wonder how often that happens to Platinum holders.
Thanks 412!!
@@AnthonyVenture sadly happens to me too often. Even if going through say Atlanta (I am on east coast), which is one of the largest airports in the country, and their only Priority Pass lounge for example is in the International Terminal.
Lounges are massively overrated. Hotel status will get you a lot more than an overcrowded lounge
I have both of the cards and I love them all 😅
Heck yeah Aloha haha, just killing the game either way ha.
I’m surprised you don’t do the United travel bank hack for the airline statement credit. That’s so much money wasted man 🤬
I know for shame really Gemini, I should be taken out back and beaten for losing out on money hahaha. I just never flew United so it never came across my mind to do that honestly.
I probably should honestly.
Thanks Gemini!
@@AnthonyVenture that’s 200 per year u missed out on. Easy flight for you and the wife to visit the Caribbeans or South America.
Absolutely, good point. Maybe I should do that soon.
The Aspire was updated and received an annual fee bump to $550 around a month ago and this video was posted a day ago 😂
Oh lawd Cody, I can tell you left after 3 seconds 🤣🤣🤣
You have a Tesla but the 10 cents off on each gallon of gas at mobile Exxon from Walmart+ is making a huge dent in the annual fee for me on the platinum (and i get paramount+)
And you know me and my aspires with the FNC 😉
See that’s something I’m just not aware of, good point! But really, how much do you think you can knock off the annual fee with just the 10c?
And yes, you love your Aspire FNCs haha.
@@AnthonyVenture We have 3 cars and fill up once a week, one car twice a week... But even 2 cars getting filled up once a week with a 15 gallon tank is 30gal X 10 cents X 52 weeks = $156, then pair that with a high gas multiplier card (you can pay with any card, doesn't have to be the platinum) you're squeezing a little extra juice out of it.
if you have a job or business that really consumes gas then this imapact is even more.
That’s pretty good math wow!! And that really is lowering that annual fee a good amount, very good points here! Man if I had gas, I would totally be doing this.
The schwab platnium, transfering MR points and the return on your brokerage account, can cover the annual fee. With a steady 7-9% return annually for ETF and mutual funds- that reason alone is why I am keeping it. I use almost 100% of my plat/gold MR points to transfer to schwab. I am team Plat, UNLESS the raise the AF past the $695, then we have to🗣🗣 talk🦃🦃🦃
So… your team cash back
Hmm that’s so funny Jazzy, from my old video talking about the Schwab to now you being a full on Schwab Fan! Haha.
For sure, but do you earn enough MR to offset or fully pay that $695 annual fee from the returns? If so that’s wild.
If you have family, no way you getting them free breakfast from Aspire.
At the hotels? I mean I see families all the time feeding their kids the free continental breakfast.
Thanks broke!
I have Aspire, they only reimburse for 1 breakfast, additional person there's a fee... @@AnthonyVenture
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