@@Pedrobarba_3 😅 Greetings Sir.🙏 With all due respect, I would be greatful if you would share more suggestions please. It could maybe even helpful for others as well. Hope you doing great in this pandemic. Stay Strong. Stay Healthy. Keep Smiling.
@@maheshwatson4381 Looooll nah sometimes when I'm watching something it feels like forever even if its short but when I watch stuff like this it flows really nicely 😅😅. When it was over it felt like 5 mins
@@suqarpi31 lol ikr, sadhguru has something that makes him charismatic, listening to him makes us calm, he is more like jordan Peterson, but the nice version 😂
Enlightenemt for current humanson earth is a big word, there are handfull people on earth near enlightenment. Others are just thinking that they have achieved something. But enlightenment is thousands of times harder to achieve than an doctor degree.
@@sw9260 But he did listen, took his time to carefully ponder everything Sadhguru said. He even openly agreed with him a couple of times. He seems like a very humble man.
@@sw9260 I think he only came off as a smart ass because his personality is so different to Sadhguru. He was ignorant to the ideas Sadhguru put forth and was genuinely trying to understand.
@@lightonorganic4789what my personal feelings are, there is no you according to me, when you see everything as a unity around yourself everything feels like its you. we just have to identify our own soul and respect it and every other soul around us like its just us.
Akhil I agree with that I just don’t see the difference in looking around and seeing that we’re all the same atoms in different form or we’re all the same soul in different form, I totally agree with we are all one and Sahdguru when he says our personality, gender, etc is not us I just don’t see why science has to be 100% disregarded
@@lightonorganic4789 science is beautiful in its own way, the thing is it has certain walls but mysticism is beyond the physical. we can't compare science with mysticism. Science is like mysticism with practical proof.
It is a good feeling! It's even better when you take up practices and experience some things that may be crazy to the mind but extraordinary to our self realization. I joined a tradition called Drukama if you're interested check it out!
Brilliant! Both the scientist and guru. The scientist asks many valuable questions that we all have and sadhguru helps to clear all these confusions in understandable language thank you both of you!
Satguru, a scientist will never understand what you are saying. Science limits your perception by conditioning your brain-mind complex by 3 factors: Time, Money and Mathematics. For more on the subject: 1. For Brain-Mind Complex Click th-cam.com/video/myxVwrqf0co/w-d-xo.html 2. For Mind Sciences Click th-cam.com/video/X0KLgar5o58/w-d-xo.html 3. For "Who am I?" Click th-cam.com/video/xrFFBxu41dQ/w-d-xo.html and do make comments and give me your views. Thank you
@Shaun Welch Not truth, but abject materialism. Is your life more fulfilled because of technological devices? Are you happy? For science, if you can't measure it, it doesn't exist.
@Shaun Welch Guru never gain wisdom from math they actually.. directly connected with god. they got information from them. Yes.. Thats what he is enlighten. You will never understood any guru by see him is he or she connected with God or Not. Thats what in hindusm called tatvadarshi. tatva means element.. and darshi means viewer.. so.. the main element with in sadhguru is.. directly get informed by the nature and tell sadhguru..
The part that he said the impression of"human society" as you know it helps you feel sane and sleep well at night is the barrier to greater awakenings hit me hard.
As a scientist myself, there is an unfathomable amount of knowledge that we still do not know, and some of that may be unknowable. The job of the scientist is to explore what we can through what means we can, but both of these are very limited. We’re still probing various areas of the Earth and discovering new species and processes. Make no mistake, most scientists are not the certain, arrogant pricks most people think of when they hear the word “scientist”. We are very aware of what we don’t know. We have to be or else there would be no reason to come to work and continue making discoveries and the technologies that may result from such discoveries. Sadhguru’s right though. Science, especially the medical research I’m involved in, has largely become product-driven. Exploratory science simply for the sake of exploration and knowledge acquisition is a thing of the past regrettably.
Yeah , i wish there's more respectful arguing like this. I think everyone end up the conversation learn something instead of just felling hurt or insulted
eps1044 I would like to understand why we are eternal? i mean when we die the body is gone but also we are not conscious of living or using our decision making anymore. How do we continue after death as for „eternal“ then?
Sadhguru is sooooo patient with this guy. He keeps gently guiding him over and over to look inside and find the truth of himself as an experience of life and David manages to think his way right out of it effortlessly each time lol.
One of the few scientists who is willing to have a discussion/debate with a mystic without being condescending and has a desire to learn from them. I applaud this man.
I wish I once could have a discussion like this. This was a pleasure to watch and it feels that I learned something new every second. I did not disagree with either
Beautiful conversation! This is exactly how it should be...not thrown emotional insecurities by each other.... perfect discussion... knowledge gaining and blissful convo!
17:44 I think this part is very interesting, living in the states I know how my fellow Americans are morbidly attached to physical remains. My grandfather is kept in a jar above the fireplace. "In america they dress it up, in india within 4 hours you must get rid of it." Even coffins are completely unnecessary, in the end we all decompose anyway. I believe its good for bodies to rest in the earth, were they originated from, to rejoin the cycle of life and become trees in the forest.
@@MrThatpersonthatguy coffins are just someones paycheck. Is there really a point to burying someone in a useless box? Nah, why not bury them in the earth? Seems like pointless littering imo
Not being smart and not being affected by education forced upon you are two different things. Sadhguru is smart. Being not smart is nothing to be thankful for.
As a scientist myself that believes in pursuing the truth whilst remaining open to all possibilities, I loved this interview and see that this scientist understands the essence of science. When you see people online completely shutting down any spiritual or religious ideas and claiming that they 'believe in science'...that kind of mindset is completely unscientific. The entire purpose of science is to learn more, to replace and improve upon previous ideas, so it requires open mindedness. There should ideally be no opinions in science, so listening and learning is only natural. Science doesn't claim to have all the answers and only accepts something as the truth if it able to be proved beyond reasonable doubt. Until then, everything else is just a possibility. This is why I believe that science is actually quite compatible with spirituality and other such things, or at least, science is unable to completely deny or accept these concepts until it can be proven one way or the other.
I had a brain injury a year and a half ago. Yeah I was unbalance with the first few days. But now I’m the same as the old me maybe even better. I comprehend things better now. Before my injury my mind would always be racing now it’s slow down a little more where I understand everything. I still act the same maybe more serious but I’m the same old me but smarter.
I had a bad concussion last year. It made my nerves sensitized and develop a panic disorder. But has taught me alot about the mind and the true self. It has been a blessing to me in disguise. Now able to manage anxiety and live in acceptance. I'm a stronger more genuine person now.
You can’t really generalize a brain injury though. Every brain injury or stroke is different. Everything about you can change in every possible way you can think of. The brain is responsible for every possible experience and that includes consciousness itself.
@Robert That's a nice claim, but you aren't really offering an argument. If the experience of the past self is a memory, and that memory becomes damaged, you wouldn't know, because that is the thing you are using to remember the past self. People have false memories of their past *commonly.* This is well known to be common for normal human beings.
Discussion and conversation is what we need. Not a competitive violent debate thing. Persuading the other person shouldn't be the point, a flow of ideas should be. By far one of the best discussions I've come across.
The interviewer should be like this, with an intention to explore the truth and knowledge... but just to degrade the other person or prove himself smarter. A worthwhile video to watch ❤
I had a traumatic brain injury during my time in the military and it really fucked me up mentally over the years. When the Veterans Affairs threw me under the bus for care and I was close to succumbing to the depression by taking my life, my awareness to my situation triggered a dilemma within between survival and my own inner turmoil about my identity. It may sound confusing as I can't put into the words the awakening I had within my conscience but I chose to live my way rather than be limited by the identity my situation constricted me to be. I genuinely appreciate TH-cam for a good recommendation for once and I think more people should watch this.
It is too much to say we are not the body or the mind. What can any one prove in themselves is that there is a state in which the body and the mind experience intense emotions of joy and clarity. This is true and any one who wants to put some effort can experience it. Once we die nobody can tell what happens, but is this truly important? What matters if we are not able to feel happy in the present
Truth to be told I think Sadhguru kept deviating away from the narrative of "who am I". The fundamental disconnect between modern science and spirituality is that as per the prevailing modern scientific intuition the self is not seperate from the materialistic constitution. The "conscious being" is a by product of the arrangement of the matter. As the neuroscientist explained that Houston's identity comprises of the roads and bridges and the monuments.... On the other hand the spiritual notion is that consciousness is not a by product of the materialistic arrangement. Since we are aware of the body-mind, that itself indicates that the body-mind is the object of our experience and "we" are the subject... And the subject and object has to be separate. Hence even though there can be changes in the body and the mind, there always remains a witness.. The awareness is always there.... Even when we are in deep sleep or faint... The witness in us is aware of the blankness... I think Sadhguru could have explained that in a better way..
You are close. If you take a hybrid approach of mysticism and science, then things are very clear. "I" am life(Prana) created by 2 chemical entities fusing together(DNA/RNA). All the information in the pattern of those chemical structures, helps to accumulate, build and keep the life in a specific form. It could be ant, elephant or human. Even the consciousness is also part of the pattern of the code.
Just excellent speaker this Sadhguru. Whoever he speaks to he can find the right words to guide the listener to notice the observer inside who has a mind and a body. Absolutely wonderful to listen him trying to open up peoples mind to other possibilities. Plus all those Shankara Pillam stories. Absolutely wonderful and very much needed in these busy times when there's so much attention catching devises and plots distracting us from what's truly important: this life.
Very good Mr. Sadguru. I was a budding physicist at 23 years of age with a Bachelor of Arts degree. But since then . . . not so much. Thanks for your insights.
David Eagleman is such a cool gentleman.... an intelligent questioner & most importantly a great listener. 🙏 Unlike z idiotic Javed Aktar who was hyper & imposing.
But a scientist, strictly a materialist. Satguru, a scientist will never understand what you are saying. Science limits your perception by conditioning your brain-mind complex by 3 factors: Time, Money and Mathematics. For more on the subject: 1. For Brain-Mind Complex Click th-cam.com/video/myxVwrqf0co/w-d-xo.html 2. For Mind Sciences Click th-cam.com/video/X0KLgar5o58/w-d-xo.html 3. For "Who am I?" Click th-cam.com/video/xrFFBxu41dQ/w-d-xo.html and do make comments and give me your views. Thank you
@@RaviSadana-n7c Yeahhh, it's basically that... a scientist tries to understand the truth by the outside & a yogi realises it within. Eventually it leads to the same source.
Earlier someone said he speaks like water in a positive way. I see only redirection, evasiveness, slipperyness in his way to twist arguments and evade the questions. Very annoying discussion partner that does not come one step towards an intelligent argument, instead just spilling spongy words at a rate you cannot even follow.
Gem of a discussion. I have always thought like sadguru is discussing. Unfortunately, many science students and teachers equally don't understand the essence of science.
Science just wants to be "right". This is why they say "X" and then "okay we were wrong, x is now xx". Instead of just admitting they dont know completely.
Perry Stuart bullshit. Science makes no proclamations of absolute truth. It makes tentative models that best suit the available evidence, and are always subject to change if new evidence suggesting the contrary becomes available. What youve just stated is the antithesis of science.
@@sunnydlite-t8b scientists dont just want to be right. They want to know what is right. There's a huge difference. And yes, once they prove something wrong they go onto something else since that previous thing cant be factual. That's what the basics of the scientific method is about to discover theories. What dont you understand? Would you rather scientists keep on saying what's definitely wrong is the right option, knowing it's not? What are your beliefs? Are you against science? If you are, then I assume it's because of religious reasons. Which religion are you from, if that's the case?
That’s how discussions should go, when someone has a different perspective if we genuinely are interested in finding a compromise we should listen longer, sometimes we may not have time for the discussion but we should not 100% decide someone is 100% wrong until we’ve given the full effort to listen
The problem arises when you try to explain the unexplainable . The mystic, mysticism and life are beyond the scope of words. You can only live it. Cannot be explained. All explanation is futile. Mystics understand the futility of explaining and are thus silent. No one can explain it . It has to attained only by one self.
Socrates said. "All I know is that I lnow nothing". As a scientist and tech guy myself n student of mysticism, it is so true. Let's keep explor8ng, learning, growing ... how sad rhis world has really not wvovlved despite tremendous potwntial. But it is ok, we can always learn n make it better. Beautiful interview, thanks for posting
What a time to be alive indeed. Can't imagine what was it even like, Sadhguru and Einstein talking... I miss one legend, but I'm living with this mind and body seeing one...
Science : Questions can be answered with consistency everytime and proven thru experiments Psedo-Science : Questions with different answers everytime and proven to confuse if it cannot convince
Many people dont appreciate the word sadhguru often uses wich is "EMOTION". Now break down the work. E-Motion (Energy In Motion) when you feel any type of emotionm use this tought of "Energy In Motion" and make yourself a progresssive day.
If you want to understand this interview see with open mind.... then you will grasp and understand the basic nature of human being.... so beautifully he explain...
In most people's experience the mind has become like a computer that has evolved to a physical capability where it believes it is an entire existence on it's own - not realizing there exists a user. Sadhguru effortlessly guides a person toward seeking the "users" manual ;)
Consciousness is the Last level of human intelligence.... beyond that their is sole sitting at your forehead... This is you ..... your body and your mind is accumulation...
Sadhguru is very intelligent. He knows life sciences so well enough that he is able to explain it in a most lucid manner to the ones completely oblivious of it. We are blessed to have such an insightful being in this day and age. Great interviewer & a greater interviewee with so much wisdom & knowledge 🙏
I whould say that his scientific knowlage is quite crude acttualy the peel and the fruit thing can be eazly replaced by the scientific: skin , muscles organs (peel) and the neurological system (the brain , the fruit) yet he criticises the scientific for using only the physical he also has yet to prove why the mystical is better than the scientific and how exactly science has hit a glass wall?
No. His talent is creating a cult following of mindless idiots like you are. You thibk you understand. He sells a feeling of grand knowledge which at the end is just that: a feeling. I don't think he knows much about neuroscience.
@@anduro7448 ESP ( extrasensory perception) is real but can not be tested with the clumsy tools of science said by physicist freeman dyson. Until we improve our instruments drastically its difficult. So only sadhguru says we can use the body as an instrument to experience it for ourselves and not use external instruments
The heading of the video is incorrect. SadhGuru is not explaining that a person is not a body or mind; He is explaining that by detaching yourself from worldly/material/perceived things, you can invoke your soul which is your real identity.
These are the kinds of conversations that we need to have to restore meaning to our lives and begin the reaccumulation of wisdom and the search for truth.
Some people don't understand and don't want to understand how things work . For example Indian education system is laying emphasis on result . Humans learn from process not result i.e. it is similar to materialism .
Yes same in USA - learning to ask questions is more important than memorizing the “right” answers. The first is based on exploring the world through curiosity and intellect. The second is being programmed.
Theseus has entered the chat. Personally, i think there may well be a soul, however, it has not been proven. Certainly not in this discussion. The title of this video favors sadhguru, when in actuality both sides a speculating. Intelligently speculating, but speculating nonetheless.
We are getting kinda close to find the soul. There a lot of scientists and professionals studying the Near Death Experiences that a lot of people have. If we get more studies like the ones that Sam Parnia maybe soul is going to be proven.
There is a soul i can prove it , sometimes you are joyful and sometimes you are sad sometimes you are relaxed sometimes you are depressed? Can you show me sadness or joyfulness or can you show me the relaxation and depression the answer is NO ,We can not see it but We feel it right? That you can not show me but you feel it deep inside and which is unseen is the SOUL.
Scientists won't understand what you mean by a "piece of life." If you want to have a real discussion, you have to speak in a language that the other person can understand. To come together, both people have to become fluent in each other's native tongue. The yogi who wants to reach people who speak only the language of scientific materialism must first acquire a sufficient understanding of the intended meaning behind the words of the scientist, and how to accurately predict how the scientist will interpret anything the yogi himself might want to say. It's not an easy task by any measure even with the right education, and while there is a level of spiritual mastery which allows one to fluently speak in any unfamiliar tongues intuitively, Sadhguru does not seem to be quite at that level.
Buddy, yogis who are much more well established in " not the body mind" ....they defy pain,they in some cases have undergone surgery even without anaesthesia.....just saying...
If you have a tooth ache it produces a sensation of pain that you experience as a sensation or feeling....it doesn't mean you are the tooth ache. The body is just a vehicle for the soul....your true self which is pure consciousness
There is a true incident where Swami RamKrishan param hans was in Samadhi and Swami Vivekananda put a burning coal on his head and left it until hair burned and skin beneath started burning. He took off the coal and Swami RamKrishna stayed in samadhi for few hours with no outside activity or response. When he got back to bodily state after few hours he cried like hell that wat happened to my head. So yes , as long we are connected to body, toothache is hell. 😊 But who learned to live without is free.
In the west we arrogantly manufactured many things such as children foods that now we just realised how dangerous they have been to health of the children. The western societies are in crisis and they should do something about it as soon as possible
Now this is called a Discussion.
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Rabi Narayan Hansdah then you have only heard 1 discussion
@@Pedrobarba_3
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Greetings Sir.🙏
With all due respect,
I would be greatful if you would share more suggestions please.
It could maybe even helpful for others as well.
Hope you doing great in this pandemic.
Stay Strong. Stay Healthy.
Keep Smiling.
Sadghuru was very reluctant to let him speak he kept on cutting him off just when the scientist was about to say something substantial
@Red blue 72 32...Sadhguru is not perfect but his insights are beautiful.🧐
The science guy is a smart ass. He makes not a single point.
This is so much more interesting than news or Netflix.
Entropy Nagarjuna 100% agreed
I don’t think I blinked through that conversation
Andy wow 😅❤️
True! life itself is the most phenomenal thing in life.
Yes!!!
That was the shortest 20 minutes of my life he speaks like water
What else is the longest 20 minutes of your life??😂😂😂
@@maheshwatson4381 Looooll nah sometimes when I'm watching something it feels like forever even if its short but when I watch stuff like this it flows really nicely 😅😅. When it was over it felt like 5 mins
@@suqarpi31 lol ikr, sadhguru has something that makes him charismatic, listening to him makes us calm, he is more like jordan Peterson, but the nice version 😂
@@maheshwatson4381 Ha !😂🤣 That's for sure
Water contains immense power to destroy.
First time sadhguru is interviewed by right person.
True
Very true
True
Right in what regard? It's a mouth-breather with sloppy posture and it's mind flowes mostly on impulse.
Yes but he is ready to learn new aspect of life and not trying to be smart in front of audience like most of the interviewers.
Its like wisdom and intelligence had a conversation
Only half a conversation, here's the other half
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And i need both .
@@rachelbegmusic Thou hath it all, just droppeth thy mind.
Word
Beautifully put! 👏👏👏
I was sick and tired of conversations like my God against yours or my religion against yours types. This comes as a refreshing and enlightening
Just keep refreshing yourself till you are permanently shut down.
Enlightenemt for current humanson earth is a big word, there are handfull people on earth near enlightenment. Others are just thinking that they have achieved something. But enlightenment is thousands of times harder to achieve than an doctor degree.
So true!!
@@digvijay9908 😂😂😂😂
Sadhguru: "yes or no?"
David: A G R E E D
Call him
@Kerry Holt Got it
The peel goes into the earth and provides nourishment.
@@bornuponawave
What does that mean?
I'm so glad the interviewer knows how to be open minded and thoughtful
He is a smart ass not listening a moment to Sad Guru.
@@sw9260 yes bro you got it
@@sw9260 But he did listen, took his time to carefully ponder everything Sadhguru said. He even openly agreed with him a couple of times. He seems like a very humble man.
@@sw9260 I think he only came off as a smart ass because his personality is so different to Sadhguru. He was ignorant to the ideas Sadhguru put forth and was genuinely trying to understand.
@Arnav Sharma kind of you...but if he wanted to he wudnt wanna do it on tv
I've watched this entire interview countless number of times and everytime it gives me such a good feeling
So what is the “you” made out of
@@lightonorganic4789what my personal feelings are, there is no you according to me, when you see everything as a unity around yourself everything feels like its you. we just have to identify our own soul and respect it and every other soul around us like its just us.
Akhil I agree with that I just don’t see the difference in looking around and seeing that we’re all the same atoms in different form or we’re all the same soul in different form, I totally agree with we are all one and Sahdguru when he says our personality, gender, etc is not us I just don’t see why science has to be 100% disregarded
@@lightonorganic4789 science is beautiful in its own way, the thing is it has certain walls but mysticism is beyond the physical. we can't compare science with mysticism. Science is like mysticism with practical proof.
It is a good feeling! It's even better when you take up practices and experience some things that may be crazy to the mind but extraordinary to our self realization. I joined a tradition called Drukama if you're interested check it out!
Brilliant! Both the scientist and guru. The scientist asks many valuable questions that we all have and sadhguru helps to clear all these confusions in understandable language thank you both of you!
Satguru, a scientist will never understand what you are saying. Science limits your perception by conditioning your brain-mind complex by 3 factors: Time, Money and Mathematics.
For more on the subject:
1. For Brain-Mind Complex Click th-cam.com/video/myxVwrqf0co/w-d-xo.html
2. For Mind Sciences Click th-cam.com/video/X0KLgar5o58/w-d-xo.html
3. For "Who am I?" Click th-cam.com/video/xrFFBxu41dQ/w-d-xo.html
and do make comments and give me your views. Thank you
@Shaun Welch Not truth, but abject materialism. Is your life more fulfilled because of technological devices? Are you happy? For science, if you can't measure it, it doesn't exist.
@@RaviSadana-n7c how much is your experience with science?
@Shaun Welch Guru never gain wisdom from math they actually.. directly connected with god. they got information from them. Yes.. Thats what he is enlighten. You will never understood any guru by see him is he or she connected with God or Not. Thats what in hindusm called tatvadarshi. tatva means element.. and darshi means viewer.. so.. the main element with in sadhguru is.. directly get informed by the nature and tell sadhguru..
@Shaun Welch
But science with a lack of wisdom is extremely dangerous.
It's like consciousness and mind had a conversation
I am agree!
yesss
The part that he said the impression of"human society" as you know it helps you feel sane and sleep well at night is the barrier to greater awakenings hit me hard.
As a scientist myself, there is an unfathomable amount of knowledge that we still do not know, and some of that may be unknowable. The job of the scientist is to explore what we can through what means we can, but both of these are very limited. We’re still probing various areas of the Earth and discovering new species and processes. Make no mistake, most scientists are not the certain, arrogant pricks most people think of when they hear the word “scientist”. We are very aware of what we don’t know. We have to be or else there would be no reason to come to work and continue making discoveries and the technologies that may result from such discoveries.
Sadhguru’s right though. Science, especially the medical research I’m involved in, has largely become product-driven. Exploratory science simply for the sake of exploration and knowledge acquisition is a thing of the past regrettably.
So sad to hear that Science is the Slave of technology.
Jigov did you know hitler was also a human being? Omg you are a human being, so you are hitler. Right?
Jigov wow what a bunch of nonsense.
all science should be banned one day science will be the reason for all humanity to go extinct
@@kjrmkjmckay5414 Yeah...Now who is responsible for Corona??😂
dude i love how they're arguing so peacefully, or rather a discussion
Yeah , i wish there's more respectful arguing like this. I think everyone end up the conversation learn something instead of just felling hurt or insulted
This Guru has an answer to any and everything. That just shows me how little science knows so far and how much work they still have to do.
none of his answers are particularly grounded in reality, though. I feel that he speaks and thinks in metaphors.
Having an answer is not the same as speaking the truth.
Science don't have to do anything, you have to become science of life,
And that is possible through union only.
Union with Cosmos
@@vishrajput4950 you wot
just be careful to people who claim or behave that they know everything ;)
Why is it a good show?
Bcos the interviewer has started seeking too , while interviewing
😊
True
They’re discussing how you can never really die, only the body dies.
That’s why this is awesome, because we are eternal.
eps1044 I would like to understand why we are eternal? i mean when we die the body is gone but also we are not conscious of living or using our decision making anymore. How do we continue after death as for „eternal“ then?
@@faddyhakaj Please read the book 'Death- for all those who shall die' by Sadhguru explaining deeply into this topic.
I'm from the UK and Sadhguru couldnt have said it more beautiful.
Many thanks.
With power comes great responsibility and balance. Mind Body and Soul.
saying beautifully doesn't make it true though as there's a clear difference
Sadhguru is sooooo patient with this guy. He keeps gently guiding him over and over to look inside and find the truth of himself as an experience of life and David manages to think his way right out of it effortlessly each time lol.
Backbiting
For the first time two seeking persons discussed reminds how sages in ancient India debated. Great beginning
Yeah .. it did give similar feeling
@Oborothhello lodu!
@Oboroth Based on your comments on this channel, you're a sad, sad man. May you find some happiness
One of the few scientists who is willing to have a discussion/debate with a mystic without being condescending and has a desire to learn from them. I applaud this man.
I wish I once could have a discussion like this. This was a pleasure to watch and it feels that I learned something new every second. I did not disagree with either
Beautiful conversation! This is exactly how it should be...not thrown emotional insecurities by each other.... perfect discussion... knowledge gaining and blissful convo!
17:44 ”once the body is dead no one is intrested in it”
*Necrophila has joined the chat*
and that's the problem
Thank you for this hahaha
17:44 I think this part is very interesting, living in the states I know how my fellow Americans are morbidly attached to physical remains. My grandfather is kept in a jar above the fireplace. "In america they dress it up, in india within 4 hours you must get rid of it." Even coffins are completely unnecessary, in the end we all decompose anyway. I believe its good for bodies to rest in the earth, were they originated from, to rejoin the cycle of life and become trees in the forest.
😂
@@MrThatpersonthatguy coffins are just someones paycheck. Is there really a point to burying someone in a useless box? Nah, why not bury them in the earth? Seems like pointless littering imo
My God one of the best conversions I ever heard.
Thank god I'm not very smart! And thank you Sadhguru!
We are all born smart, thing is we don't use it.
Being educated and being dumb are two different aspects
Sorry to break it to you bud but if you're watching a video like this, you're smart!! Lol
Troy Ortega
Humbleness is connected to wisdom.
I am sorry to say....but you are smart.
Not being smart and not being affected by education forced upon you are two different things.
Sadhguru is smart. Being not smart is nothing to be thankful for.
As a scientist myself that believes in pursuing the truth whilst remaining open to all possibilities, I loved this interview and see that this scientist understands the essence of science. When you see people online completely shutting down any spiritual or religious ideas and claiming that they 'believe in science'...that kind of mindset is completely unscientific.
The entire purpose of science is to learn more, to replace and improve upon previous ideas, so it requires open mindedness. There should ideally be no opinions in science, so listening and learning is only natural. Science doesn't claim to have all the answers and only accepts something as the truth if it able to be proved beyond reasonable doubt. Until then, everything else is just a possibility.
This is why I believe that science is actually quite compatible with spirituality and other such things, or at least, science is unable to completely deny or accept these concepts until it can be proven one way or the other.
I had a brain injury a year and a half ago. Yeah I was unbalance with the first few days. But now I’m the same as the old me maybe even better. I comprehend things better now. Before my injury my mind would always be racing now it’s slow down a little more where I understand everything. I still act the same maybe more serious but I’m the same old me but smarter.
I had a bad concussion last year. It made my nerves sensitized and develop a panic disorder. But has taught me alot about the mind and the true self. It has been a blessing to me in disguise. Now able to manage anxiety and live in acceptance. I'm a stronger more genuine person now.
Note the use of "I" and "My". Here's some clarity
vedabase.io/en/library/bg/2/
You can’t really generalize a brain injury though. Every brain injury or stroke is different. Everything about you can change in every possible way you can think of. The brain is responsible for every possible experience and that includes consciousness itself.
OR you might have lost the comprehension of how you used to think, and don't realise that you used to be better.
@Robert That's a nice claim, but you aren't really offering an argument. If the experience of the past self is a memory, and that memory becomes damaged, you wouldn't know, because that is the thing you are using to remember the past self. People have false memories of their past *commonly.* This is well known to be common for normal human beings.
Discussion and conversation is what we need. Not a competitive violent debate thing. Persuading the other person shouldn't be the point, a flow of ideas should be. By far one of the best discussions I've come across.
this is how legend discuss :)
Yes, very true. Here is a more exhaustive discussion on the same vedabase.io/en/library/bg/2/
The interviewer should be like this, with an intention to explore the truth and knowledge... but just to degrade the other person or prove himself smarter. A worthwhile video to watch ❤
Where is the next part..... ( I love it science vs mystic )
The whole conversation is here m.th-cam.com/video/GltzPnMIvIU/w-d-xo.html
@@truth6957 This is a more complete conversation on the same.
vedabase.io/en/library/bg/2/
I had a traumatic brain injury during my time in the military and it really fucked me up mentally over the years. When the Veterans Affairs threw me under the bus for care and I was close to succumbing to the depression by taking my life, my awareness to my situation triggered a dilemma within between survival and my own inner turmoil about my identity. It may sound confusing as I can't put into the words the awakening I had within my conscience but I chose to live my way rather than be limited by the identity my situation constricted me to be.
I genuinely appreciate TH-cam for a good recommendation for once and I think more people should watch this.
I am a 23 year old Latino from the US and I find this extremely interesting
Hei Jesse I'm 22 Indian 😁😁 please do listen to him you will get many valuable things and get to know many new things
Peace out
Lol
Thanks jesse. 🙏Namaste
Not a 🎶🌌🌮Space Mexican 🌮🌌🎶 ?
you are not 23 year old your body is :D also why does your age or where you from mater
I love that they had a conversation and not a debate
Javed akhter are you listening, the real intellectuals are speaking In midst of real intellectuals
Javed came from fools paradise.. Will go back. Most ignoranable being
Javed came from fools paradise.. Will go back. Most ignoranable being
Hahahaha.. nailed it bro...
@Mister X what degree do u have ?
@Mister X degrees make you intellectual ?
It is too much to say we are not the body or the mind. What can any one prove in themselves is that there is a state in which the body and the mind experience intense emotions of joy and clarity. This is true and any one who wants to put some effort can experience it. Once we die nobody can tell what happens, but is this truly important? What matters if we are not able to feel happy in the present
Truth to be told I think Sadhguru kept deviating away from the narrative of "who am I". The fundamental disconnect between modern science and spirituality is that as per the prevailing modern scientific intuition the self is not seperate from the materialistic constitution. The "conscious being" is a by product of the arrangement of the matter. As the neuroscientist explained that Houston's identity comprises of the roads and bridges and the monuments....
On the other hand the spiritual notion is that consciousness is not a by product of the materialistic arrangement. Since we are aware of the body-mind, that itself indicates that the body-mind is the object of our experience and "we" are the subject... And the subject and object has to be separate. Hence even though there can be changes in the body and the mind, there always remains a witness.. The awareness is always there.... Even when we are in deep sleep or faint... The witness in us is aware of the blankness...
I think Sadhguru could have explained that in a better way..
He didn't want to. Good write up. This is exactly what I have learnt and experienced within self.
Great observation... Here's the answer to Who am I.
vedabase.io/en/library/bg/2/
You are close. If you take a hybrid approach of mysticism and science, then things are very clear.
"I" am life(Prana) created by 2 chemical entities fusing together(DNA/RNA). All the information in the pattern of those chemical structures, helps to accumulate, build and keep the life in a specific form. It could be ant, elephant or human. Even the consciousness is also part of the pattern of the code.
You said that perfectly and caught and understood his meaning early I believe. Very well said
We become the object we subject ourselves too. This in turn manifests the 'personality' of the object on the physical level.
A brilliant discussion between Enlightenment and Genius. We should have these interviews more often
For the First time I saw a true seeker with a true Guru !! So pleasant 🙌
We need more discussions like this. Beautiful.
Lots of Respect for Sadguruji
This is how you grow.. by putting right questions at right time..
The discussion is incredible
Should have put the scientist name in the title. He deserves that respect for doing this and for holding his own.
My mind agrees more with the science dude But my heart is understanding to the guru
Plot twist, your mind and heart are the same
something from within is trying to break through. its a sign!
Meditate for 5 years, you might experience detachment, then you will see, you are not your thoughts, not your emotions and not your body.
Finally someone truly intellectual and worthy has emerged. A win for both Sadhguru and the masses
What did he win? argument?
Let alone the discussion just observe our culture and theirs the way the posture of persons are sitting opposite to each other.
Hats off to whoever transcribed this
Brother as u see that sadhguru has showed everyone his inner exploration path. How many are ready to sacrifice everything to experience it.
I dont think i am capable or ready for such sacrifices..
Just excellent speaker this Sadhguru. Whoever he speaks to he can find the right words to guide the listener to notice the observer inside who has a mind and a body. Absolutely wonderful to listen him trying to open up peoples mind to other possibilities. Plus all those Shankara Pillam stories. Absolutely wonderful and very much needed in these busy times when there's so much attention catching devises and plots distracting us from what's truly important: this life.
everything sadguru derives incredible way, great personality 🙏🙏
Very good Mr. Sadguru. I was a budding physicist at 23 years of age with a Bachelor of Arts degree. But since then . . . not so much. Thanks for your insights.
David Eagleman is such a cool gentleman.... an intelligent questioner & most importantly a great listener. 🙏
Unlike z idiotic Javed Aktar who was hyper & imposing.
But a scientist, strictly a materialist.
Satguru, a scientist will never understand what you are saying. Science limits your perception by conditioning your brain-mind complex by 3 factors: Time, Money and Mathematics.
For more on the subject:
1. For Brain-Mind Complex Click th-cam.com/video/myxVwrqf0co/w-d-xo.html
2. For Mind Sciences Click th-cam.com/video/X0KLgar5o58/w-d-xo.html
3. For "Who am I?" Click th-cam.com/video/xrFFBxu41dQ/w-d-xo.html
and do make comments and give me your views. Thank you
@@RaviSadana-n7c Yeahhh, it's basically that... a scientist tries to understand the truth by the outside & a yogi realises it within. Eventually it leads to the same source.
Earlier someone said he speaks like water in a positive way. I see only redirection, evasiveness, slipperyness in his way to twist arguments and evade the questions. Very annoying discussion partner that does not come one step towards an intelligent argument, instead just spilling spongy words at a rate you cannot even follow.
livingurdreams09 damn that was deep
Stefan Welker thank you Stefan I cant believe people are so enamoured with this charlatan. Jeez. Some people would believe in anything and anyone
Now that is a real and genuine discussion. Loved every second. Two people wanting to explore reality in a thoughtful, calm and respecting manner.
Gem of a discussion. I have always thought like sadguru is discussing. Unfortunately, many science students and teachers equally don't understand the essence of science.
Here is the essence of all science..
vedabase.io/en/library/bg/2/
Science just wants to be "right". This is why they say "X" and then "okay we were wrong, x is now xx". Instead of just admitting they dont know completely.
Perry Stuart bullshit. Science makes no proclamations of absolute truth. It makes tentative models that best suit the available evidence, and are always subject to change if new evidence suggesting the contrary becomes available. What youve just stated is the antithesis of science.
@@sunnydlite-t8b scientists dont just want to be right. They want to know what is right. There's a huge difference. And yes, once they prove something wrong they go onto something else since that previous thing cant be factual. That's what the basics of the scientific method is about to discover theories. What dont you understand? Would you rather scientists keep on saying what's definitely wrong is the right option, knowing it's not? What are your beliefs? Are you against science? If you are, then I assume it's because of religious reasons. Which religion are you from, if that's the case?
@@sunnydlite-t8b You have no clue about hard sciences.
I've just discovered sadhguru and his voice makes me happy
One Soul
and that's all
Finally some intelligent conversation.....many presenters I have seen don't get maximum out of sadhguru's wisdom
The person next to sadhguru seems to have so much to say but end up listening to him for so long without a word.
That’s how discussions should go, when someone has a different perspective if we genuinely are interested in finding a compromise we should listen longer, sometimes we may not have time for the discussion but we should not 100% decide someone is 100% wrong until we’ve given the full effort to listen
@Maansing Ramrattansing oh I see🙂👍
@@lightonorganic4789 ok . I know . 😊
The problem arises when you try to explain the unexplainable . The mystic, mysticism and life are beyond the scope of words. You can only live it. Cannot be explained. All explanation is futile. Mystics understand the futility of explaining and are thus silent. No one can explain it . It has to attained only by one self.
@@benwallace7161 Anyone and everyone can explain it, only everyone and anyone would be in varying degrees of failure.
Socrates said. "All I know is that I lnow nothing". As a scientist and tech guy myself n student of mysticism, it is so true. Let's keep explor8ng, learning, growing ... how sad rhis world has really not wvovlved despite tremendous potwntial. But it is ok, we can always learn n make it better. Beautiful interview, thanks for posting
"everyone is a piece of life"
There's a lot more to "a piece of life" here vedabase.io/en/library/bg/2/
Sadghuru makes sense of a lot of complex issues in a very simple way. Nice to hear things put the way he says them.
It's like watching one of The Midnight Gospel series.
if someone animated this, i would be forever grateful for them
What a time to be alive indeed. Can't imagine what was it even like, Sadhguru and Einstein talking... I miss one legend, but I'm living with this mind and body seeing one...
Science : Questions can be answered with consistency everytime and proven thru experiments
Psedo-Science : Questions with different answers everytime and proven to confuse if it cannot convince
Unadulterated back and forth discussions on fascinating topics. This is what the world needs more of. 💯. Forget the Kardashians
Many people dont appreciate the word sadhguru often uses wich is "EMOTION". Now break down the work. E-Motion (Energy In Motion) when you feel any type of emotionm use this tought of "Energy In Motion" and make yourself a progresssive day.
@sourabh zla. Bro ive been spiritual since i was born. I was basically raised in nature, not in cities with cars and a multicultural melting pot.
@sourabh zla. Dont need your help just saying 😉
One who thinks he knows cannot know, only one who knows he doesn't know can truly know.
vedabase.io/en/library/bg/2/
That was the most pseudo babble new-agey crap I've read in a while.
@@brain0nfire y
If you want to understand this interview see with open mind.... then you will grasp and understand the basic nature of human being.... so beautifully he explain...
In most people's experience the mind has become like a computer that has evolved to a physical capability where it believes it is an entire existence on it's own - not realizing there exists a user.
Sadhguru effortlessly guides a person toward seeking the "users" manual ;)
As an introvert, these are the conversations in mind.
i feel like a lot of what makes a person a person is other peoples memories of their experiences with that person
That's existentialism
Wonderful explanation . First time someone says the correct thing that no one will fund you if just want to know and not make an enterprise!
Consciousness is the Last level of human intelligence.... beyond that their is sole sitting at your forehead...
This is you ..... your body and your mind is accumulation...
seeing two, intelligent, intellectual folk discuss the how's and why's of humanity is a true pleasure
Sadhguru is very intelligent. He knows life sciences so well enough that he is able to explain it in a most lucid manner to the ones completely oblivious of it. We are blessed to have such an insightful being in this day and age. Great interviewer & a greater interviewee with so much wisdom & knowledge 🙏
We have the same name
I whould say that his scientific knowlage is quite crude acttualy
the peel and the fruit thing can be eazly replaced by the scientific: skin , muscles organs (peel) and the neurological system (the brain , the fruit)
yet he criticises the scientific for using only the physical
he also has yet to prove why the mystical is better than the scientific and how exactly science has hit a glass wall?
No. His talent is creating a cult following of mindless idiots like you are. You thibk you understand. He sells a feeling of grand knowledge which at the end is just that: a feeling. I don't think he knows much about neuroscience.
@@IsomerSoma he makes sense and promotes peace unlike jokers like Zakir naik...So it's cool and fine
@@anduro7448 ESP ( extrasensory perception) is real but can not be tested with the clumsy tools of science said by physicist freeman dyson. Until we improve our instruments drastically its difficult. So only sadhguru says we can use the body as an instrument to experience it for ourselves and not use external instruments
I’m a 22 years old in Quebec and I find this very interesting.
My advice don't bother with such topics as it pretty much goes around full circle over & over
see the humbleness of both!
The heading of the video is incorrect.
SadhGuru is not explaining that a person is not a body or mind;
He is explaining that by detaching yourself from worldly/material/perceived things, you can invoke your soul which is your real identity.
9:54 begins the heart of the matter.
This world need more Sadhguru!!!
sadhguru you have peeled the fruit!
ya, its rather ez even a child could do it.
Amazing, thts what we call a real discussion.
News channels should learn something from this.
More than just a guru, he's a great philosopher and a man of incredible scientific knowledge 👏
These are the kinds of conversations that we need to have to restore meaning to our lives and begin the reaccumulation of wisdom and the search for truth.
isn't whole purpose of science's to just do that
But nobody mentioned DMT not even once
Careful or you'll conjure a world where Sadhguru goes on the Joe Rogan podcast.
Jason Miller Thats a podcast I’d love to see
@@jason-miller this actually needs to happen
These gurus achieve the same state naturally through meditation. Our brains can produce DMT internally.
@@chufa72 yeah it's not the same. trust me.
The best discussion of sadguru.
After watching this video i realised i don't understand anything
That is the first step in understanding. Second step is clicking vedabase.io/en/library/bg/2/
Take some time . You'll one day understand ☺️
If you understood from this video that you don’t understand anything then technically that’s a form of being enlightened
It's better not to understand this bs video.. 😂
GFDSD FSDFS it wouldnt be the tao if no one laughed at it
This is a complementary contrast and the one of best intellctual and wisdom based conversation
One of, yes. Here is the absolute best conversation on it vedabase.io/en/library/bg/2/
Real a discussion of intelligence
Satyajit Chakraborty
To understand what sadhguru saying you need to understand Hinduism scriptures
th-cam.com/video/Cuc04Og5UAo/w-d-xo.html
Impressive geniality of both the individuals. This is how a debate or a discussion should be like.
Some people don't understand and don't want to understand how things work .
For example Indian education system is laying emphasis on result .
Humans learn from process not result i.e. it is similar to materialism .
Yes same in USA - learning to ask questions is more important than memorizing the “right” answers. The first is based on exploring the world through curiosity and intellect. The second is being programmed.
Beautiful conversation!
Theseus has entered the chat.
Personally, i think there may well be a soul, however, it has not been proven. Certainly not in this discussion. The title of this video favors sadhguru, when in actuality both sides a speculating. Intelligently speculating, but speculating nonetheless.
Brilliantly written.
We are getting kinda close to find the soul. There a lot of scientists and professionals studying the Near Death Experiences that a lot of people have. If we get more studies like the ones that Sam Parnia maybe soul is going to be proven.
Search for Orgone energy and William. Enough said :)
One was asking the questions the other was responding.
There is a soul i can prove it ,
sometimes you are joyful and sometimes you are sad sometimes you are relaxed sometimes you are depressed? Can you show me sadness or joyfulness or can you show me the relaxation and depression the answer is NO ,We can not see it but We feel it right?
That you can not show me but you feel it deep inside and which is unseen is the SOUL.
Wow this was one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever heard
It seems the neuroscientist doesn't understand that we are not our body and mind but we are just a piece of life.
And you do with certainty... What an idiot you are
Haaa, you are wright!
@@masternobin please don't argue and tell anyone fool here 🙏
Scientists won't understand what you mean by a "piece of life." If you want to have a real discussion, you have to speak in a language that the other person can understand. To come together, both people have to become fluent in each other's native tongue. The yogi who wants to reach people who speak only the language of scientific materialism must first acquire a sufficient understanding of the intended meaning behind the words of the scientist, and how to accurately predict how the scientist will interpret anything the yogi himself might want to say. It's not an easy task by any measure even with the right education, and while there is a level of spiritual mastery which allows one to fluently speak in any unfamiliar tongues intuitively, Sadhguru does not seem to be quite at that level.
@@williamwesner4268 you doesn't seem to be quit at that level to understand him
Sadhguru s concept of life stands simplistic in the whole complexities of life.
Sad: You are not the body and mind
Toothache: let me introduce myself
Buddy, yogis who are much more well established in " not the body mind" ....they defy pain,they in some cases have undergone surgery even without anaesthesia.....just saying...
@@vri5384 How did you determine that doing that isn't a function of the body? The body doesn't have to experience pain.
@@vri5384 true tho like my grandpa, i don't even know how he do it but he just did
If you have a tooth ache it produces a sensation of pain that you experience as a sensation or feeling....it doesn't mean you are the tooth ache. The body is just a vehicle for the soul....your true self which is pure consciousness
There is a true incident where Swami RamKrishan param hans was in Samadhi and Swami Vivekananda put a burning coal on his head and left it until hair burned and skin beneath started burning.
He took off the coal and Swami RamKrishna stayed in samadhi for few hours with no outside activity or response. When he got back to bodily state after few hours he cried like hell that wat happened to my head. So yes , as long we are connected to body, toothache is hell.
😊
But who learned to live without is free.
In the west we arrogantly manufactured many things such as children foods that now we just realised how dangerous they have been to health of the children. The western societies are in crisis and they should do something about it as soon as possible
If only political debates could be this well rounded and respectful...
"Mom, I want to go outside and play" "Don't go out and play, I don't want you getting dirty."