Victor Marquez they're not in the same side. They're just in agreement to help each other fight for their respective independence because if the other is conquered then it will strengthen America
Ken FireFlame actually Texas could very much end up seceding from the US. One of the reasons Texas joined us was because back then, there was no way Texas could survive as an independent nation. Also don’t forget that in the American Civil War, only mere decades after the Mexican American war, Texas tried to secede as part of the CSA. I also think that there might have been some Supreme Court case involving Texas and secession. I might by lying about that though. Perhaps Texas never actually tries to secede again, but anything is possible, especially when it involves the future.
Benny Biggums California isn’t much of a powerhouse and Texas would fall rather quickly as the us could easily make a dday style landing on the texan coast and advance from there
PaceVII LoL 😂 yea, ummm even the Germans or Japanese in WW2 wouldn’t have invaded Texas...and were even more armed now than back then. Your theory is swiss cheese...
Spushed yeah that was ww2, no one would make it in the US if they invaded, and Texas would fall quickly, the population mainly consists of old people, sure they have guns but are no match against the United States, Texas wouldn’t stand a chance
Lone Star Mapping these take so long to make that I'm losing hope. I'll probably finish the aftermath series and do a Kaiserreich War video then just ghost out 😂
I don't think that Canada will not get involved past that. The reason is that [1] NATO and UN is fucked., [2] Quebec might declare independence, as they were inspired by 14 or so states that seceded from the US., [3] And if Quebec becomes independent, British Columbia, Alberta, and Saskatchewan might join the US, though it is unclear if they will side with the syndicalists or the nationalist.
That's like saying California will secede from the US and join Canada (which is a possibility). No Canadian province wants to join the US and they don't even want to leave the nation.
Gallium Games I took the New England thing and syndicalism from Kaiserreich which in hind sight seems rather plagiarized but I always wanted an independent Pacific states, the borders I wanted just happened to line up with the mod.
Mambuto Oluwasegufuminitotonicavalry unfortunately, now that I have learned more about geopolitics I’ve decided that this world is wholly unrealistic. There’s a grain of truth to it but not much. If you want a world map of this go to my about section and go to my deviant art. I made a map of the world called “A state of Cold War” it’s kinda far back.
This video proves how demanding we are of supplies, forcing the people in the rations (Which let's be honest has probably better quality than ww2) would cause more instability than the great depression...
DiscoverSaussagio I’m about to come out with a new one that better animated and more realistic. It’s a stand alone Second American Civil War between the Republicans and the Democrats.
the problem with popular front winning is that well mapping in general is that really a modern rebellion would not work because the government has the arms and supplies and cash vs random rebels
"The American mainland, where peace has reigned for over 150 years, the place we have called home for so many years, will fall into Chaos, Misery, Violence and Tyranny once more' Like if you like ;)
Thanks!, I'm quite good at poems actually, without even knowing it! Just two small questions btw since your here, 1. Why did New England Join the communists? 2. Who was elected president just before the war was held? Thanks in advance.
KaiserBower27 New England wasn't trying to an independent republic like the Separatists. They wanted to remain in America and sought to break away form Canadian influence and join the winning side which at the time was the Popular Front. This nearly lead to war between the popular front and Canada but left-leaning Uprisings in Quebec forced them not to.
in the current political situation right now, if a civil war were to happen, I am wondering if the Confederacy would reform, or the Republic of Texas would Reform and take former confederate states with it.
I doubt that the Confederacy would reform in totality. People just aren't racist anymore, so it would just be a collection of states. People get all worked up when someone mentions forming a confederacy because America has labeled that word racist even though it's just a confederation of states. I would love to see The Republic of Texas reborn :) (Texan Pride)
Not the Confederate government of the civil war. Sure ther are a few White Supremacists left but you have to factor in there are Black Supremacists plus Latino Supremacists in this country. If a civil war erupted in the united States there would be about 10 factions at the beginning. From Antifa to all the ones I mentioned. But being honest it would end because the globalist EU and UN would wipe out anyone who wanted a free America as it is.
Bolt They seceded over their right to own slaves. While it was technically about states rights the core issue that they were seceding over was slavery. I live in the south and was born in the south so as much as I hate to slander my homeland like that you just can’t deny it.
I feel like if the country were to break apart they would do just that, break off one by one til the federal government couldn't sustain. Maybe I'm wrong
I will be an american, capitalist, conservative-republican, Christian, patriot all my life. And by God's help, we will make the us united again under all the 50 states it had.
And China and Russia are just going to sit back and watch? Remember when the Soviet Union collapsed? The US authorities were concerned of a similar scenario and the loss of control of nuclear weapons which was unthinkable..
I'm from Washington state. While we almost certainly would have merged with Oregon to form Cascadia (which would have it's capital in Olympia or Everett, maybe Spokane) we would NEVER join California. As a rule, if Cascadia appears, we are securing our borders, joining a defense pact to survive, then going (mostly) neutral the moment we can. I say mostly since it's basically guaranteed that we will try to get British Columbia. And once Washington state, Oregon, and British Columbia are all together in Cascadia, we are true neutral. I repeat, we would NEVER join California. We just don't like them very much. And if we were somehow coerced into joining with California, there is no way we'd let them dominate the flag like you see at the end.
@@linkfromzelda1002 Cascadia isn't the "dreams of a rebel movement ", and I'm not saying that we wouldn't cooperate with California, we just wouldn't join into a single nation. We just don't like California. We would almost certainly form a defense pact of some kind, but outside of that, we would NEVER join California. We just really don't like them. It'd be somewhat similar to trying to get an independent Desseret (Utah) to give up independence. It just wouldn't happen. The only scenario where Washington and Oregon join California is if they join separately. If Cascadia forms, it would NEVER join California after the fact. It's kinda like H2O. You can merge Hydrogen with all manner of things, and you can merge Oxygen with all manner of things, but once they're combined into H2O, good luck getting them to merge with something else.
The Hydrogen at the End of the Universe So like, why don’t we just unite as a country that isn’t dominated by either of the three populations? That sounds fair to me. Call it the Pacific Union and the flag is 3 stars on an ocean blue background. That sounds fair for everyone.
@@linkfromzelda1002 that could happen, but I doubt it would last longer than half of a decade. Inevitably, power and focus would shift into California, already a large place, or Washington and Oregon would "gang up" on California and focus would shift northward. If all three were closer in size, then something like that could last. But with how massive California is, there just isn't much chance of it being stable.
The Hydrogen at the End of the Universe Well I’m sure we’d figure something out that’s fair for everyone. We’re democrat states so our governments are already more or less in kahoots. Additionally who’s to say that we’d follow the same state policy as the US? We could do our own thing where we just unite as one state. There’s also the fact that we literally block any access to the Pacific from the East, so someone might wanna get rid of us and it’d be better to fight together for such a conflict especially with the boost in population and resources California would give. We could probably become a regional supper power if the US lost several other states or collapsed.
I think you should do another version of this, with Virginia being the lead state. With what's going on here with the gun grab laws, I'm pretty sure the next civil war will kick off here.
Would Alabama be safe in this scenario? If so, I'd go to Birmingham to live with my aunt until after the war. It looks like TN, my home state, got occupied by the syndicalists.
What about Texas, Louisiana, Hawaii and Pacific States? Didn't USA just take them back and return the sea access on Gulf of Mexico and Pacific Ocean after Civil War?
*Meanwhile Hawaii is chillin' at the Pacific*
Marxist Squidward lol
Lol...look like they firget hawai.😁😝
They are probably with the pacific states
No remember Hawaii seceded in the last episode
But... CA and TX on the same side? I'm sorry if I can't imagine that :|
Victor Marquez they're not in the same side. They're just in agreement to help each other fight for their respective independence because if the other is conquered then it will strengthen America
Charles never happen.
Ken FireFlame actually Texas could very much end up seceding from the US. One of the reasons Texas joined us was because back then, there was no way Texas could survive as an independent nation. Also don’t forget that in the American Civil War, only mere decades after the Mexican American war, Texas tried to secede as part of the CSA. I also think that there might have been some Supreme Court case involving Texas and secession. I might by lying about that though. Perhaps Texas never actually tries to secede again, but anything is possible, especially when it involves the future.
Marriage of Convenience
Victor Marquez Inland California is almost nothing like coastal California.
It reminds me the Spanish Civil War.
Drex I was heavily influenced by the Spanish Civil War while making this. Good eye :)
Drex look up "Spanish popular front flag"
+Charles
I have that flag XD.
Drex Reminds me of Russian Civil War: Random short nations, back and forth, and lots of groups fighting.
PSA is Galicia
Texas is Catalonia
Well it’s safe to say I would be dead in this timeline
So you are reservist... Interesting
are you alive tho ?
@Silver Allaway literally a second civil war??????
let me guess why hmm..
What happened to Hawaii? Did they join the Pacific States or did they stay with the Nationalist Front?
Darren Greene Hawaii is probably gone due to the natural disasters
They went socialist. They seceded before this.
@@helmetguy6495 i was jk
probably went independent
Texas and California helping each other = Rip everybody else
Benny Biggums California isn’t much of a powerhouse and Texas would fall rather quickly as the us could easily make a dday style landing on the texan coast and advance from there
PaceVII LoL 😂 yea, ummm even the Germans or Japanese in WW2 wouldn’t have invaded Texas...and were even more armed now than back then. Your theory is swiss cheese...
Spushed yeah that was ww2, no one would make it in the US if they invaded, and Texas would fall quickly, the population mainly consists of old people, sure they have guns but are no match against the United States, Texas wouldn’t stand a chance
Americans, we must never let this happen. Succession is not an option. Together we stand, Divided we fall, until the very end.
COUGH, ANTIFA, COUGH.
Fuck that. New England Culture > Amerifat Culture.
Remember the 4th of November
As a Texan Nationalist, I think in some ways, the US is holding us back.
I'm an Ohioan Nationalist. #FreeOhio
USA: *magically turns into Syria*
You better not jinx it
its not magical, its going to happen... we're just kicking that can down the road for now
@@velnz5475 it’s not going to happen. US isn’t that unstable.
@@christopherlue9096 you're dead wrong lmao
@@christopherlue9096 jinx
I can tell that you play Hearts of Iron IV.
Polonium Radiation I thought the same exact thing, I noticed it happened pratically the same exact way. (Substitute Texas for Huey Long)
E V E R Y M A N K I N G
2:23 March 20th, 2022. The day the mexicans built a wall.
And America payed for it :)
1:11 oh I guess someone put me in charge of Pennsylvania and now its independent
I like this
@@Blu_Jay07hi i like your videos
freedom for the great lakes
Freedom for the Great Lakes!
Blissfully How about freedom for the whole Midwest?
Leagalize It I like the USA
Sincerely, Random Michigander
Look at you! While I've all but given up on mapping, you've managed to find time to make this! Keep up the perseverance 😉
Lone Star Mapping these take so long to make that I'm losing hope. I'll probably finish the aftermath series and do a Kaiserreich War video then just ghost out 😂
Charles just keep the cool mapping emblems XD
Lone Star Mapping 😂
Mapping for me was just a one and done🤷♂️
Charles at least watch my funny battlefront clips XD
2:20 oh, it's heaviest irony ever
Nice
Jake Mapping Thank you 😏
Charles yeah its nice to see Texas and California working together again.
Jake Mapping arn't you one of the channels often seen in EmperorTigerStars comment sections?
Very good, please do a Popular Front Victory version.
Never happened because it's suck
@@heinzjohann4610 cope
Very far stretched ending it would be a bunch of blue haired fat redditors fighting for the socialists
Yeah I wish
@@heinzjohann4610Okay illiterate
I was rotting for the US government the whole way through
That was confusing and silly. An uprising in Santa Fe was hilarious as well.
I don't think that Canada will not get involved past that. The reason is that [1] NATO and UN is fucked., [2] Quebec might declare independence, as they were inspired by 14 or so states that seceded from the US., [3] And if Quebec becomes independent, British Columbia, Alberta, and Saskatchewan might join the US, though it is unclear if they will side with the syndicalists or the nationalist.
That's like saying California will secede from the US and join Canada (which is a possibility). No Canadian province wants to join the US and they don't even want to leave the nation.
Washington State and/or Alaska is more likely to join Canada than California, as the latter can do pretty fine with itself.
Canada invading New England? Pacific state? Syndicalists in the north and the south... well in the south?
I know Kaisereich when I see it.
Gallium Games I took the New England thing and syndicalism from Kaiserreich which in hind sight seems rather plagiarized but I always wanted an independent Pacific states, the borders I wanted just happened to line up with the mod.
I think 2020 will be getting some ideas from this
Oh no
Even though I am a Californian if this happens I would support the nationalists and try to get them to annex the Separatists
I wanna see Texas vs Mexico
This is really really close to what’s going on right now. With which political party controls each area
Please continue the series, im really intrigued by the story and would like to see videos about the rest of the world!
Mambuto Oluwasegufuminitotonicavalry unfortunately, now that I have learned more about geopolitics I’ve decided that this world is wholly unrealistic. There’s a grain of truth to it but not much. If you want a world map of this go to my about section and go to my deviant art. I made a map of the world called “A state of Cold War” it’s kinda far back.
Bruh, if this happens, I'm totally fighting for the Popular Front.
I guess the popular front wasn't so popular
This video proves how demanding we are of supplies, forcing the people in the rations (Which let's be honest has probably better quality than ww2) would cause more instability than the great depression...
2:23 Mexico really pulled the UNO reverse card 🥶
My ass would be a rebel up in Michigan fighting the Popular Front lol
"The Scathing of Detroit begins with armed predominantly radical socialist and anarcho-syndicalist militias."
Mah boys!
Noice video right here.
DiscoverSaussagio I’m about to come out with a new one that better animated and more realistic. It’s a stand alone Second American Civil War between the Republicans and the Democrats.
2:25 Mexico just pulled a UNO Reverse Card on the US
As soon as I saw syndicalist I thought this was a kaiserreich game
This is nuts
Great!!I extremely love it. What are you going to do next??Just wondering
Random YTViewer Second Chinese Civil War
Could you make one where the popular front wins?
brazilian government would be bolsonaro at this time,he would not allow a socialist US And would fight at the Nationalist side
the problem with popular front winning is that well mapping in general is that really a modern rebellion would not work because the government has the arms and supplies and cash vs random rebels
NYC is a big city so I am wondering if the battle there was huge and deadly.
1:51 poor Virginia, they are always the first to go
Hugary -countryball They tried... A for effort
Who's Watching in 2018?
Not ganna lie, the amount of casualties would be far larger in my opinion.
So much work put into this! I admire you and this video. I am a bit lazy and I am uploading once a month. Hahaha! Great job.
You take my city after my birthday!?! How dare You.
"The American mainland, where peace has reigned for over 150 years, the place we have called home for so many years, will fall into Chaos, Misery, Violence and Tyranny once more' Like if you like ;)
KaiserBower27 poetic
Thanks!, I'm quite good at poems actually, without even knowing it! Just two small questions btw since your here, 1. Why did New England Join the communists? 2. Who was elected president just before the war was held? Thanks in advance.
KaiserBower27 New England wasn't trying to an independent republic like the Separatists. They wanted to remain in America and sought to break away form Canadian influence and join the winning side which at the time was the Popular Front. This nearly lead to war between the popular front and Canada but left-leaning Uprisings in Quebec forced them not to.
KaiserBower27 I can't really say who was elected but just assume it was another 2016 election which left the Left feeling marginalized.
Thanks for that! Great video and channel btw!, you've earned yourself a sub ;)
in the current political situation right now, if a civil war were to happen, I am wondering if the Confederacy would reform, or the Republic of Texas would Reform and take former confederate states with it.
I doubt that the Confederacy would reform in totality. People just aren't racist anymore, so it would just be a collection of states. People get all worked up when someone mentions forming a confederacy because America has labeled that word racist even though it's just a confederation of states. I would love to see The Republic of Texas reborn :) (Texan Pride)
Not the Confederate government of the civil war. Sure ther are a few White Supremacists left but you have to factor in there are Black Supremacists plus Latino Supremacists in this country. If a civil war erupted in the united States there would be about 10 factions at the beginning. From Antifa to all the ones I mentioned. But being honest it would end because the globalist EU and UN would wipe out anyone who wanted a free America as it is.
Bolt They seceded over their right to own slaves. While it was technically about states rights the core issue that they were seceding over was slavery. I live in the south and was born in the south so as much as I hate to slander my homeland like that you just can’t deny it.
2017- Mexican immigrants to USA force a wall to be built
2022- American immigrants to Mexico force the border to be closed
it's gonna be HILARIOUS if this shit happens in the *actual* thing happens in 2020
yes it isn't actually funny but- hey, this is 2020.
I feel like if the country were to break apart they would do just that, break off one by one til the federal government couldn't sustain. Maybe I'm wrong
Damn dude, this is awesome. I use this as an example for my mapping.
Also the music is perfect.
Lucas W go ahead.
Lucas W I’m about to make a new one so watch yourself 🤭
Wow, amazing! I subscribed.
GalacticPenguinTV aye!
GalacticPenguinTV About to drop a new one that’s a stand alone video
1:21 Canada’s like, let me just side in here
Yeah my friend, as the wolf I say this isn't happening.
I love how you actually continued the scenario I wondered waht happened to the american civil war the second thanks for making this
Say anything you want about this, this is some crisp mapping.
Well done!
Maybe that's why I love Antarctica
i love the world building plez more aftermath vids
Love it
CA and Texas together is like Russia with the US
Some of these states that you showed seceding wouldnt even last a day without the Union imo.
Texas and California would never fight on the same side
They fought on the same side in ww1,ww2,korea,vietnam, etc
I see Oklahoma, Lousiana and Arkansas joining Texas and Texas taking back it's old land
OooooOoo New video!
New England would never fall to Canada. MINUTE MEN UNITE!
All Texans after watching this video are laughing themselves into a full cramp
Texas and Cali leave? The United states collapses
Picked an interesting year to start the war on.......
USA wouldn't just let the states leave they would have done something
Bruh Texas and Louisiana are op like they have all the guns
GUYS THIS BOUTTA HAPPEN
MARYLAND REBELLION!!!! (also it's kinda hard to think cali. and tex. are on da sme side)
wow much goods:)
Nice video
This seems very likley nowadays
Youessaye: 🗣️
USA: 🗿
AH yes, this HAD to occur in 2020
Good, but New Jersey and Pennsylvania would never rejoin the U.S. when they did.
Excellent video. Will there be a Second Russian Civil War in your scenario?
Johnny Joe I don't know
Charles I really want to see how a Second Russian Civil War would play out if the Russians won ww3
I will be an american, capitalist, conservative-republican, Christian, patriot all my life. And by God's help, we will make the us united again under all the 50 states it had.
Why the hell does the cali flag look like a Texas flag I'm sorry but I've lost 45 brain cells in just 3:35
Me: Yes west coast unites again
Also me: *sees Texas*
Me: welp time to pack it up we've lost.
Oh man that's deep
Waaay too Kaiserreichy
A rebellion is not a civil war!
And China and Russia are just going to sit back and watch? Remember when the Soviet Union collapsed? The US authorities were concerned of a similar scenario and the loss of control of nuclear weapons which was unthinkable..
1:18 not Only in Ohio. I thought it will destroy them It's just a meme
Popular Front best Front. To the barricades, comrades!
Very good scenario.
reminds me of kaiserreich
Honestly the nationalist front could have easily taken Northern or Most of California much faster before The popular front declared independence
Reminds me in a way of hoi4 Kaiserichh
I'm from Washington state. While we almost certainly would have merged with Oregon to form Cascadia (which would have it's capital in Olympia or Everett, maybe Spokane) we would NEVER join California. As a rule, if Cascadia appears, we are securing our borders, joining a defense pact to survive, then going (mostly) neutral the moment we can. I say mostly since it's basically guaranteed that we will try to get British Columbia. And once Washington state, Oregon, and British Columbia are all together in Cascadia, we are true neutral. I repeat, we would NEVER join California. We just don't like them very much. And if we were somehow coerced into joining with California, there is no way we'd let them dominate the flag like you see at the end.
I think the three states care more about survival than realize the dreams of a rebel movement. Why fight when you can unite?
@@linkfromzelda1002 Cascadia isn't the "dreams of a rebel movement ", and I'm not saying that we wouldn't cooperate with California, we just wouldn't join into a single nation. We just don't like California. We would almost certainly form a defense pact of some kind, but outside of that, we would NEVER join California. We just really don't like them. It'd be somewhat similar to trying to get an independent Desseret (Utah) to give up independence. It just wouldn't happen. The only scenario where Washington and Oregon join California is if they join separately. If Cascadia forms, it would NEVER join California after the fact. It's kinda like H2O. You can merge Hydrogen with all manner of things, and you can merge Oxygen with all manner of things, but once they're combined into H2O, good luck getting them to merge with something else.
The Hydrogen at the End of the Universe So like, why don’t we just unite as a country that isn’t dominated by either of the three populations? That sounds fair to me. Call it the Pacific Union and the flag is 3 stars on an ocean blue background. That sounds fair for everyone.
@@linkfromzelda1002 that could happen, but I doubt it would last longer than half of a decade. Inevitably, power and focus would shift into California, already a large place, or Washington and Oregon would "gang up" on California and focus would shift northward. If all three were closer in size, then something like that could last. But with how massive California is, there just isn't much chance of it being stable.
The Hydrogen at the End of the Universe Well I’m sure we’d figure something out that’s fair for everyone. We’re democrat states so our governments are already more or less in kahoots. Additionally who’s to say that we’d follow the same state policy as the US? We could do our own thing where we just unite as one state. There’s also the fact that we literally block any access to the Pacific from the East, so someone might wanna get rid of us and it’d be better to fight together for such a conflict especially with the boost in population and resources California would give. We could probably become a regional supper power if the US lost several other states or collapsed.
I think you should do another version of this, with Virginia being the lead state. With what's going on here with the gun grab laws, I'm pretty sure the next civil war will kick off here.
Would Alabama be safe in this scenario? If so, I'd go to Birmingham to live with my aunt until after the war. It looks like TN, my home state, got occupied by the syndicalists.
What software is this person using to make this video
A syndicate? Is that like the mafia?
No it's a union.
labour union
What about Texas, Louisiana, Hawaii and Pacific States? Didn't USA just take them back and return the sea access on Gulf of Mexico and Pacific Ocean after Civil War?
That is never going to happen
Like 😀👍 part 2
2:23 *Mexico closes it's border indefinitely, ceasing American immigration*
Hahahaha