Vera Leckie passed away this last January at the age of 100. If you recall the mother and daughter who described the father/husband who woke up every night screaming, that was Vera and her daughter.
Everytime I watch that part that snafu was a pallbearer for sledges funeral I cry instantly. So powerful to me. “In with the old breed” is an incredible book by sledge. And also helmet for my pillow was a great too by leckie
27:04 yup she never re-married and when people asked her why she always replied “she could never find a man as good as John” 30:13 a common thing in the US Marine Corps to say before they go to bed is “goodnight chesty, wherever you may be”. And yes Chesty was a full on badass as not just shown in this series but in his service in Korea, he’d lead the US Marine Expeditionary unit against the Chinese who had surrounded the city they were in. Fighting 60-1 odds they broke out from the Chinese encirclement and broke I think it was 6-8 Chinese divisions and scattering the rest. And yes many quotes you see repeated from Marines are usually form him such as “we’re surrounded, good, means we can shoot in any direction”
With the Old Breed is by far the best war memoir I have ever read. I first tried to read it in the 8th grade but once it got to the airfield on Pelelui I couldn’t grasp what I was reading and it sickened me how grotesque and terrifying it was . About my junior year of high school I read it through and through in 3 days I got to understand my grandfather more as a young kid. He never held back a story he believed young boys should know what young men did to fight and die for their country also hoping it would discourage me and my cousins to serve. It was hard to hear a 26 year combat vet of 3 wars and not want to follow in his steps though.
To your last question “does the show stay accurate to the real events”. In terms of Sledge’s book many scenes were recreated from his memoir. For example scenes he witnessed like marines removing gold teeth on live Japanese, and him thinking remove them from their agony. Or coming back from Peleliu and seeing the Red Cross nurse women and being shocked. It’s all in there. Also, If you listen on TH-cam to Chuck Tatum’s description of him and Basilone’s team taking out the Iwo Jima bunker and compare it to the show it’s 1:1 accurate. Also I’d recommend watching on TH-cam “Fury in the Pacific, Battle of Peleliu 1944”. It’s the real archive footage of the actual battle taken by the US War Department and Marine Corps. I believe multiple cameramen were killed taking and bringing us the footage. You’ll see how accurate they made the landing and airfield and hills to the footage
Yes the show mostly depicts accuretly the events. There are youtube videos comparing certain scenes with the audiobook of The old Breed, very well interpreted for the most part.
19:42 yes Eugene served in the Marines as he wanted to serve alongside his best friend Sidney Phillips, while his brother was a tanker serving in Europe. Also remember his father was a dr in WW1 and treated many of the men wounded from the war. That’s the reason he is so helpful and caring for his sons who have just come back from it, as like he said at the start “the worst part wasn’t seeing their flesh torn, but their souls had been torn out” as in many of them came back completely broken men from the war suffering from what at the time was referred to as “shell shock” however, as we known it today it’s PTSD.
The film "The Best Years of Our Lives" I highly recommend as an exploration of how three veterans tried to adjust to their return home after the war. It won an Academy Award for Best Picture in 1946.
So a big change from history was that Snafu, Burgie and Sledge sadly didn’t return back to the US at the same time as depicted. Burgie got sent home after Okinawa due to the points system while both Snafu and Sledge would be sent to do a tour in China helping to clear up the last of the Japanese resistance there while also helping keep the tensions between the Communist and Nationalist and Warlord forces all at ease for a while. Snafu would be sent home only a few weeks into it after contracting a disease and being sent home on medical discharge and Sledge would fulfill the entire tour retuning home after 6 months. However, I’m sure if they had the choice, they’d have all wanted to return to home together and experience the end of the war like this.
What’s crazy is there were some Japanese holdouts that didn’t believe that Japan would surrender so they hid in caves for years, some for decades. They believed that officers would come and relieve them at some point but of course they never did
The thing I always think is the majority of these kids were 18-22 years old. They don't know anything but war ( job wise )since its all they've done since they got out of school. The "what do we do now" question its kinda like when you get out of highschool and now you need to find a good job or do more school. but now you've seen things no1 back home can comprehend and no1 understands why you think or act the way you do and your left feeling alone once your buddies who lived through it with you are gone. I can't even imagine how hard it would have been getting back to "normal" life.
Great reactions Danny. Chernobyl is an amazing mini series and really depicts the horrors of real life disasters, would recommend if not watched already.
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Vera Leckie passed away this last January at the age of 100. If you recall the mother and daughter who described the father/husband who woke up every night screaming, that was Vera and her daughter.
Btw, the actor portraying Sledge is the same person who played Tim in Jurassic Park
Everytime I watch that part that snafu was a pallbearer for sledges funeral I cry instantly. So powerful to me. “In with the old breed” is an incredible book by sledge. And also helmet for my pillow was a great too by leckie
27:04 yup she never re-married and when people asked her why she always replied “she could never find a man as good as John”
30:13 a common thing in the US Marine Corps to say before they go to bed is “goodnight chesty, wherever you may be”.
And yes Chesty was a full on badass as not just shown in this series but in his service in Korea, he’d lead the US Marine Expeditionary unit against the Chinese who had surrounded the city they were in. Fighting 60-1 odds they broke out from the Chinese encirclement and broke I think it was 6-8 Chinese divisions and scattering the rest.
And yes many quotes you see repeated from Marines are usually form him such as “we’re surrounded, good, means we can shoot in any direction”
With the Old Breed is by far the best war memoir I have ever read. I first tried to read it in the 8th grade but once it got to the airfield on Pelelui I couldn’t grasp what I was reading and it sickened me how grotesque and terrifying it was . About my junior year of high school I read it through and through in 3 days I got to understand my grandfather more as a young kid. He never held back a story he believed young boys should know what young men did to fight and die for their country also hoping it would discourage me and my cousins to serve. It was hard to hear a 26 year combat vet of 3 wars and not want to follow in his steps though.
To your last question “does the show stay accurate to the real events”. In terms of Sledge’s book many scenes were recreated from his memoir. For example scenes he witnessed like marines removing gold teeth on live Japanese, and him thinking remove them from their agony. Or coming back from Peleliu and seeing the Red Cross nurse women and being shocked. It’s all in there. Also, If you listen on TH-cam to Chuck Tatum’s description of him and Basilone’s team taking out the Iwo Jima bunker and compare it to the show it’s 1:1 accurate. Also I’d recommend watching on TH-cam “Fury in the Pacific, Battle of Peleliu 1944”. It’s the real archive footage of the actual battle taken by the US War Department and Marine Corps. I believe multiple cameramen were killed taking and bringing us the footage. You’ll see how accurate they made the landing and airfield and hills to the footage
marines every night still say "good night chesty wherever you are"
Yes the show mostly depicts accuretly the events. There are youtube videos comparing certain scenes with the audiobook of The old Breed, very well interpreted for the most part.
19:42 yes Eugene served in the Marines as he wanted to serve alongside his best friend Sidney Phillips, while his brother was a tanker serving in Europe.
Also remember his father was a dr in WW1 and treated many of the men wounded from the war. That’s the reason he is so helpful and caring for his sons who have just come back from it, as like he said at the start “the worst part wasn’t seeing their flesh torn, but their souls had been torn out” as in many of them came back completely broken men from the war suffering from what at the time was referred to as “shell shock” however, as we known it today it’s PTSD.
Sledge was not looking for a job, he was applying for college.
The film "The Best Years of Our Lives" I highly recommend as an exploration of how three veterans tried to adjust to their return home after the war. It won an Academy Award for Best Picture in 1946.
The death of Captain A.A. Haldane most memorable part for me.
So a big change from history was that Snafu, Burgie and Sledge sadly didn’t return back to the US at the same time as depicted.
Burgie got sent home after Okinawa due to the points system while both Snafu and Sledge would be sent to do a tour in China helping to clear up the last of the Japanese resistance there while also helping keep the tensions between the Communist and Nationalist and Warlord forces all at ease for a while.
Snafu would be sent home only a few weeks into it after contracting a disease and being sent home on medical discharge and Sledge would fulfill the entire tour retuning home after 6 months.
However, I’m sure if they had the choice, they’d have all wanted to return to home together and experience the end of the war like this.
Sledge wrote the book China Marine about the year after the War.
What’s crazy is there were some Japanese holdouts that didn’t believe that Japan would surrender so they hid in caves for years, some for decades. They believed that officers would come and relieve them at some point but of course they never did
Oh wow that’s crazy
It was easier to follow more characters in BOB the way it was organized. Yes, the Pacific was more gruesome in most ways.
The thing I always think is the majority of these kids were 18-22 years old. They don't know anything but war ( job wise )since its all they've done since they got out of school. The "what do we do now" question its kinda like when you get out of highschool and now you need to find a good job or do more school. but now you've seen things no1 back home can comprehend and no1 understands why you think or act the way you do and your left feeling alone once your buddies who lived through it with you are gone. I can't even imagine how hard it would have been getting back to "normal" life.
Chesty Puller was a badass Marine. Upon seeing a flamethrower for the first time, Chesty asked: 'Where do you put the bayonet?'
Some other perspectives on the war ... The Pianist and The Railway man.
I’d recommend 2019s Midway next - great epic movie and an insane true story
It’s mostly historical, but it is in no way as well written or scripted as these shows.
Great reactions Danny. Chernobyl is an amazing mini series and really depicts the horrors of real life disasters, would recommend if not watched already.
Thanks so much - yeah already watched that and wow what a series that was too. Real eye opener
The brother was in Europe
The end of the journey 😮😢
The Pacific was very good but Band of Brothers is definitely considered a better show by most.