Since the top speed of RJ are the same as WB. However, if u want to get to Vienna Central, RJ is still faster and more convenient (WB only stops in Vienna West Station=> takes more times getting to the Center)
If I could, I would live in Austria as you are in the heartt of Europe. Very easy to get to most places by train, the scenery is stunning and everything is so neat and tidy.
Living in Austria Cannot confirm, it takes forever to get anywhere. It really depends on where you are in Austria and where you define your more important area of Europe. Vienna is great for Eastern Europe (which doesnt really have all that much rail stuff) whereas going to the west of austria itself already sets you back 7 hours
If you like monorails you could also visit Dortmund‘s university. They also have one. It starts at the train stop „Dortmund Universität“ and has two lines. BTW: all (train travel to Wuppertal and Dortmund+monorails) can be done with one single ticket.
How much do I need you to pribe you to read my E-Mail I send you back then? I wish I could meet you someday when you come back to Austria again.... @@PlanesTrainsEverything
Having lived in Spreitenbach for 2 years and having taken the S11/S12 services there everyday I always think of local S-Bahn services when I see those Stadler double decker trains though they are configured for long distance this distinct look of stairs, lights, ceilings gives it that vibe. Then again I'm stunned again and again that those little swiss regional trains are ruling the world.
Certainly Stadler Flirts are popping up everywhere, even in East Anglia (Emgland). Unfortunately double-deck Kisses (which are certainly not 'little') are too big for Britain.
@@Fan652w lol I meant little for Switzerland not the train. They just started to sell international straight away with big success that's rather unusual.
Back in 1972-73 when I spent a year in Germany, courtesy of "Uncle Sam", I rode those DB trains all over Germany. There weren't all these additional railroad companies competing with DB. I learned quickly how ON TIME all trains were.. If the schedule said arriving at 4:01, the train was in the station AT 4:01, not 4:00 or 4:02... I made many trips via regional trains from Bamberg to Bitburg. Bamberg is in northern Bavaria and Bitburg is way over near the Luxembourg/Germany/Holland border. The trip was a 10 hour journey, Bamberg to Frankfurt, Frankfurt to Trier, Trier to Bitburg. Actually the Trier to Bitburg was by bus. Had a blast on my time in Germany, would LOVE to go back again. Your videos are a great replacement for that.. Thanks!!
Catching up with a backlog of your trips. I love German and Austrian trains, especially the two-deck ones. But imagine leaving 3 minutes late - unheard of!
Actually, the tickets for the Munich to Salzburg service with BRB can also be bought via the regular Deutsche Bahn app, webshop or ticket machines at the station. This may not be very obvious, but when any railway company does not run REGIONAL services on their own tracks, they offer that service based on having won a State-commissioned tender for that line which comes with certain obligations. If the service is designated as an "RE" or "RB" service, that's usually a hint. In those cases, Deutsche Bahn is obliged to sell tickets for those competitors' services via their app, ticket machines or other outlets. This obligation does not apply for any other non-DB services, e.g. long-distance Flix Trains. Tickets for the latter can only be bought from the respective railway company and DB won't be obliged to sell those.
@@to_loww I've been trying to figure this out for the Deutschlandticket on Westbahn - I assume just for the part Munich-Salzburg (and vice-versa)? Now that WB goes as far as Stuttgart, I wonder if the DT on that will also be an option. Thanks for any direction where to find official info.
@@SightsnSighs It is. The surcharge for Salzburg - Stuttgart is 19.90 EUR. For Stuttgart - München it's 9.90 EUR. For more information just google "DeutschlandPlusTicket".
Hi Scott, just wanted to say hi from Australia. I've been watching Steve Marsh's videos for a little bit and when you ahd he did that collaboration this week it was absolutely awesome. I watch both videos and love the contrast in they way you both do your stuff. I shall be wading my way through your back catalog as Im certainly enjoying your style as well. Both myself and my partner are having a few health issues so travel is not something easily done, so we get our travel fix by watching yours, and Steve's videos. Stay safe and keep enjoying yourself. Cheers. Gavin and Anna.
I once had to take exactly the same journey. I was actually booked on Westbahn, but the train was cancelled due to an accident, so the first part of my journey to Salzburg was on the same BRB connection with a switch in Salzburg to Westbahn!
I got the Munich - Salzburg train the other week and it was absolutely packed, some people had to stand the whole journey. My friend had the same experience the week before, we both assumed it was due to the Deutschland ticket, looked like you had a much more pleasant experience.
I did it in October and on an afternoon from M to S it was very quiet - only about 10 of us on the carriage. Guess it depends on the time of year. That its easier to get to Salzburg via Munich rather than direct from Scotland is one of those little mysteries of life.
@@drsteele But October 2022 was after the 9-Euro ticket expired, but before the introduction of the 49-Euro a month Deutschland Ticket. Last year's nine-Euro ticket and the permanent Deutschland Ticket are valid to Salzburg, as is the 27 Euro one day after 0900 Bayern Ticket.
I went to Sslzburg from Munich Hauptbanhof using ICE by DB Bahn, booked online and had a fast pleasant trip. Stayed in Salzburg for the Sound of Music Tour and see sights. Then after 5 days was to return to Munich to catch the DB Bahn coach to Prague.
I just took Railjet from Munich to Salzburg and back. Had a first class Eurail pass and they let me sit in business class. Great seats. The train is by no means high speed. Just makes fewer stops then the others.
yeah, railjet by now has only reached the top speed of 230km/h, the same as ICE-T and Westbahn, not counting the rail supports that speed or not. But in contrast the services are good, seats are comfortable especially in business. Unfortunately, they still asked me a reservation for business, which I had. So about the speed, Railjet = WB; the comfort and service, Railjet wins. btw RJX makes less stop than RJ and WB
Westbahn have extended some of their Vienna - Salzburg services to Munich. I travelled from Munich to Salzburg in July on a very packed Westbahn train. DB and ÖBB tickets are not valid on Westbahn trains, and there were staff on board and on the platform reminding everybody of this. Westbahn offer some cheap deals on advance purchase tickets, but as you found their trains get very busy and seat reservation is essential. For my return trip from Salzburg I'd booked a Eurocity train to Frankfurt, but this was cancelled (well of course it was cancelled, given the state of Deutsche Bahn these days). The BRB train was therefore very busy and seemed to take forever. It was late, but experience has taught me to allow 60+ minutes for making a connection anywhere in Germany, so I got to Frankfurt in one piece. Enjoy Vienna, I'll be going there for my third visit in 10 days time. Hopefully it will be warm and sunny.
Hi Scott! I live in Burghausen in Germany on the border with Austria. I have done the journey to Vienna a number of times and then continued on to Bratislava and then Martin in Slovakia. The entire journey takes me about 10 hours. I took the BRB to Tußling. and then to Freilassing where I get the S bahn which takes me to Salzburg. I then take the Railjet to Vienna. Then two very close capitals a short trip to Bratislava and finally a 3 hour journey to Martin.
I do love double-deck trains, and always use the upper deck for the improved viewing experience and (generally) quiter ambience. IMO the Swiss remain the best. I just wish there were some in Britain!
@@Fan652w I know - and this government is never going to be pragmatic and commit funds to do something about it! Who cares about a little discomfort and overcrowding?
@@BobTravellin Making Britain's railways suitable for double-decks would mean rebuilding all our Victorian era tunnels and underbridges. Clearly impossible. What are government should be doing is spending huge sums of money on railway electrification, and (where needed) longer trains.
Scott, I have just discovered your channel, and have immediately decided to subscribe! Even from this brief video, I can see that on your travels you behave very much as I do. Eg you opted for a forward facing seat at Munich. However, if you really wanted to view the scenery on the Austrian section you should have used OBB slow trains. That would mean changing at least in Linz, Amstetten and St Polten. As far as St Polten the trains would be single-deck, but you would get some great views on the 'old' line, especially around Melk. From St Polten slow trains will be double deck but take the scenic route through the Vienna Woods. Your Westbahn train was mostly in tunnel east of St Polten!
Thank you for this! On my very last Interrail travel day, I hopped on an OBB CityJet from Westbahnhof to St. Polten for the evening and, because I wanted my last train to be with Westbahn on upper deck, I took that back to Vienna - and the very lengthy tunnel really surprised me! So, to go through the Vienna woods, take CityJet as far as St. Polten, Amstetten or Linz and THEN the Westbahn (because I love it) on to Salzburg?
Westbahn is not so slow compared to ICE or Railjet between Munich an Vienna actually its pretty fast. However you got me by leaving out Linz in the timelapse sequence :-) Greets from Vienna we live some 2km from Westbahnhof :-) so Westbahn we know :-)
Perfect timing! I have an upcoming trip using BRB and Railjet from Munich to Linz, so it's nice to see the interior of the BRB trains. Fortunately I was able to book in advance and it cost me €18.90 for the entire run.
Next time buy a 10 euro summer ticket and take unlimited regional trains through Germany. Like to see your videos on that. And why not visit Salzburg next time?
I'm now expecting a UK local train ride: Paisley - Glasgow - Carlisle via Dumfires, then over to Leeds on the Settle line (scenery!) and then from Leeds local trains to Sheffield then Nottingham to Peterborough and Thameslink to London. How many hours and how much?
To Salzburg every hour! Not every 30 minutes. And of course you can pay with card. And you can also book online. Maybe some bankcards from some crazy brexit countries are not accepted.
02:45 - pooor bloke. Should have taken the 'bayern ticket' for 29€ (valid on all regio trains, busses and city trams for one day 09:00 a.m. till 03:00am, for as many journeys as one wants to)
I prefer to do what you did and see the lovely scenery rather than be on some fast train, not that we have a choice in Scotland.. slow train or slow train here!
The problem w these typical regional trains is that they are equivalent to riding a local bus-not really very comfortable. Even first class is almost no difference. There is wide variation in the quality of these private operators as well. Some spend little on maintenance so there is a good chance of a failure of some kind. I find Westbahn especially cheap, like a Flixbus on rails.
What? I don't understand why you paid 35 eur. Before the D ticket I would buy a bayern ticket for around 27 EUR and you had regional trains in Bayern for the whole day and those tickets can be bought with card in the DB machines. Those ticket become especially convenient for travel with more people because every additional person costs around 7 eur. In German as I see it buying single tickets is extremely discouraged by the pricing
I have watched the train again, he is leaving at 8:56. Under the week the Bayernticket is not valid before 9. He should have jumped on the train at München Ost , then he would save the money.
D-ticket is sold as monthly subscription though and may be a hassle to get as a non-german @@barvdw There are the regional or nation wide day ticket alternatives though. (schonertag tickets, quer duthcs land etc)
Even ordinary tickets (single Journey with BRB ) and also Bayern Ticket can be bought online with DB Navigator. This App works with credit Card. +++ May you think, it s a different company (transdev - BRB) why I can buy with DB Navigator? In Germany the (local) goverment order regional rail service on lines. So they already paid. They earn only on top at commision on ticket sales or on "Schwarzfahren" (fines for Not having a Ticket)
Was there a carriage for bicycles on the Austrian train? I once took a train along the north bank of the Danube to Melk from Vienna. It had a whole carriage to put bicycles in.
I’ll be getting some serious value out of a Deutschland ticket in couple of weeks alongside freeby travel on DB due to my railway employees entitlements. I’m wondering what the price would have been from the Austrian border if you’d used a Deutschland ticket as far as there.
The Deutschland ticket is valid to Salzburg main station. You don't need an extra ticket. You can go with the Deutschland ticket to Salzburg, to Kufstein or Reutte. All towns in Austria close to the border.
Partially imagination, partially true, all depends on the trains you compare. But it is true that British trains are slightly smaller, because of the many Victorian-era bridges and tunnels, British trains have to be slimmer and not as high. But a commuter rush-hour train in France or Germany isn't always nicer than their British counterparts, and e.g. HSTs are some of the better trains from their era. The Pendolinos aren't too bad either.
Mainland Europe has a more generous loading gauge compared to UK. Hence rolling stock is larger. By the way I realise Scott did not mention this but that Westbahn train, I believe, is made in China. Chinese rolling stock manufacturers are keen to get a foothold in Europe. They must have offered Westbahn a great deal !
@@alexmcwhirter6611 from the looks of it the train he took was likely a Stadler KISS, not a CRCC train. Westbahn isn't really a regional train, either, so naturally it has some more trimmings as your standard local train.
Was so disappointed with how inefficient everything seemed about the railways i experienced in Munich during a short trip last year. Ticket machines were slow and many not accepting card is crazy. We also had to get off a train in the middle of the countryside into Munich and were given no information about how we could get to Munich central. Thanks God for Google Maps.
In case you have any viewers with Eurail or InterRail Passes, they need to keep in mind that these passes are NOT accepted by either of these companies. You need to stick with the state railways: DB, ÖBB, SBB, etc.
@@to_loww Well, I think it was true when I commented, but the situation has changed. I just returned from Austria, and while there, I found out that Westbahn now DOES accept the passes. However, to ride in First Class (with a First Class Pass), a pricey Seat Reservation is required. I'll delete my comment, as it's no longer correct.
Munich is my least favourite city. I hope you sampled coffee and cakes while in Vienna. Should I ever make there I guess I'll gain a stone or two in weight as I'm a sucker for Torte (cake) and all things sweet
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With that scenery a slow(ish) train or two is the way to go! Cheers for this Scott!
Westbahn trains are by no means slow.
Travel time between Salzburg and Vienna:
ÖBB Railjet Express: 2:25
Westbahn: 2:30
ÖBB Railjet: 2:54
Since the top speed of RJ are the same as WB. However, if u want to get to Vienna Central, RJ is still faster and more convenient (WB only stops in Vienna West Station=> takes more times getting to the Center)
@@konichiwamina1412 The Railjet has a top speed of 230 km/h. WESTbahn only 200 km/h, but is a able to accelerate more quickly.
Thanks!
Thanks Michael. Greatly appreciated.
If I could, I would live in Austria as you are in the heartt of Europe. Very easy to get to most places by train, the scenery is stunning and everything is so neat and tidy.
Living in Austria
Cannot confirm, it takes forever to get anywhere. It really depends on where you are in Austria and where you define your more important area of Europe. Vienna is great for Eastern Europe (which doesnt really have all that much rail stuff) whereas going to the west of austria itself already sets you back 7 hours
Great video Scott, there's a good view from that top deck.
Nice to see you in my home city of Vienna 😊
Flying to Dusseldorf next week, then on to Wuppertal to do the monorail.
If you like monorails you could also visit Dortmund‘s university. They also have one. It starts at the train stop „Dortmund Universität“ and has two lines. BTW: all (train travel to Wuppertal and Dortmund+monorails) can be done with one single ticket.
I am not interested in monorails pe say, just the Wuppertal one because of the history.
@@SJF15 But the Dortmund line makes an interesting contrast with the Schwebebahn.
@@Fan652w I'm only there 48 hours!
Lovely scenery. Also I like the way you colour co-ordinate the title text with the train colours...Nice touch, Scott.
Thanks Mike. I think you're the first person to comment on that. My titles usually include a colour from the thumbnail.
How much do I need you to pribe you to read my E-Mail I send you back then? I wish I could meet you someday when you come back to Austria again.... @@PlanesTrainsEverything
Having lived in Spreitenbach for 2 years and having taken the S11/S12 services there everyday I always think of local S-Bahn services when I see those Stadler double decker trains though they are configured for long distance this distinct look of stairs, lights, ceilings gives it that vibe. Then again I'm stunned again and again that those little swiss regional trains are ruling the world.
Certainly Stadler Flirts are popping up everywhere, even in East Anglia (Emgland). Unfortunately double-deck Kisses (which are certainly not 'little') are too big for Britain.
@@Fan652w lol I meant little for Switzerland not the train. They just started to sell international straight away with big success that's rather unusual.
Have you been to the stunning village of Hallstatt amazing place but loads of tourists
nice one,,,,,, brian d.
Back in 1972-73 when I spent a year in Germany, courtesy of "Uncle Sam", I rode those DB trains all over Germany. There weren't all these additional railroad companies competing with DB. I learned quickly how ON TIME all trains were.. If the schedule said arriving at 4:01, the train was in the station AT 4:01, not 4:00 or 4:02... I made many trips via regional trains from Bamberg to Bitburg. Bamberg is in northern Bavaria and Bitburg is way over near the Luxembourg/Germany/Holland border. The trip was a 10 hour journey, Bamberg to Frankfurt, Frankfurt to Trier, Trier to Bitburg. Actually the Trier to Bitburg was by bus.
Had a blast on my time in Germany, would LOVE to go back again. Your videos are a great replacement for that.. Thanks!!
Top notch. Love visiting Munich and Salzburg - Vienna I’d like to go to.
Lovely scenery
Lovely wee impression of that particular journey Scott, enjoyed your video as always. 💚
Catching up with a backlog of your trips. I love German and Austrian trains, especially the two-deck ones. But imagine leaving 3 minutes late - unheard of!
Actually, the tickets for the Munich to Salzburg service with BRB can also be bought via the regular Deutsche Bahn app, webshop or ticket machines at the station.
This may not be very obvious, but when any railway company does not run REGIONAL services on their own tracks, they offer that service based on having won a State-commissioned tender for that line which comes with certain obligations. If the service is designated as an "RE" or "RB" service, that's usually a hint.
In those cases, Deutsche Bahn is obliged to sell tickets for those competitors' services via their app, ticket machines or other outlets. This obligation does not apply for any other non-DB services, e.g. long-distance Flix Trains. Tickets for the latter can only be bought from the respective railway company and DB won't be obliged to sell those.
Even less obvious: Westbahn also accepts the Deutschlandticket (with a surcharge). And any European rail discount card.
@@to_loww I've been trying to figure this out for the Deutschlandticket on Westbahn - I assume just for the part Munich-Salzburg (and vice-versa)? Now that WB goes as far as Stuttgart, I wonder if the DT on that will also be an option. Thanks for any direction where to find official info.
@@SightsnSighs It is. The surcharge for Salzburg - Stuttgart is 19.90 EUR. For Stuttgart - München it's 9.90 EUR.
For more information just google "DeutschlandPlusTicket".
Hi Scott, just wanted to say hi from Australia. I've been watching Steve Marsh's videos for a little bit and when you ahd he did that collaboration this week it was absolutely awesome. I watch both videos and love the contrast in they way you both do your stuff. I shall be wading my way through your back catalog as Im certainly enjoying your style as well. Both myself and my partner are having a few health issues so travel is not something easily done, so we get our travel fix by watching yours, and Steve's videos. Stay safe and keep enjoying yourself. Cheers. Gavin and Anna.
Wow. 😃👏🏽
Another intriguing train journey Scott.... love your roving train reporting safe travels onwards!!!😊
Great job 👏
I once had to take exactly the same journey. I was actually booked on Westbahn, but the train was cancelled due to an accident, so the first part of my journey to Salzburg was on the same BRB connection with a switch in Salzburg to Westbahn!
I got the Munich - Salzburg train the other week and it was absolutely packed, some people had to stand the whole journey. My friend had the same experience the week before, we both assumed it was due to the Deutschland ticket, looked like you had a much more pleasant experience.
I did it in October and on an afternoon from M to S it was very quiet - only about 10 of us on the carriage. Guess it depends on the time of year. That its easier to get to Salzburg via Munich rather than direct from Scotland is one of those little mysteries of life.
@@drsteele But October 2022 was after the 9-Euro ticket expired, but before the introduction of the 49-Euro a month Deutschland Ticket. Last year's nine-Euro ticket and the permanent Deutschland Ticket are valid to Salzburg, as is the 27 Euro one day after 0900 Bayern Ticket.
Hi Scott, Thanks for this lovely and informative video. Would be very helpful to me
I love your videos, Scott. This phrase that "coffee gets you to a cruising altitude" is becoming a favourite of mine. 🤎☕☕
There is a direct train with the westbahn from Munich to Vienna (the west train station, btw)
Love this video
Money well spent 😂
I went to Sslzburg from Munich Hauptbanhof using ICE by DB Bahn, booked online and had a fast pleasant trip. Stayed in Salzburg for the Sound of Music Tour and see sights. Then after 5 days was to return to Munich to catch the DB Bahn coach to Prague.
I just took Railjet from Munich to Salzburg and back. Had a first class Eurail pass and they let me sit in business class. Great seats. The train is by no means high speed. Just makes fewer stops then the others.
yeah, railjet by now has only reached the top speed of 230km/h, the same as ICE-T and Westbahn, not counting the rail supports that speed or not. But in contrast the services are good, seats are comfortable especially in business. Unfortunately, they still asked me a reservation for business, which I had. So about the speed, Railjet = WB; the comfort and service, Railjet wins.
btw RJX makes less stop than RJ and WB
Great video, how about doing a video on the once daily Paris to Strasbourg slow TER train?
If you are still in the area, Kufstein is a lovely little town worth a visit.
Westbahn have extended some of their Vienna - Salzburg services to Munich. I travelled from Munich to Salzburg in July on a very packed Westbahn train. DB and ÖBB tickets are not valid on Westbahn trains, and there were staff on board and on the platform reminding everybody of this. Westbahn offer some cheap deals on advance purchase tickets, but as you found their trains get very busy and seat reservation is essential. For my return trip from Salzburg I'd booked a Eurocity train to Frankfurt, but this was cancelled (well of course it was cancelled, given the state of Deutsche Bahn these days). The BRB train was therefore very busy and seemed to take forever. It was late, but experience has taught me to allow 60+ minutes for making a connection anywhere in Germany, so I got to Frankfurt in one piece. Enjoy Vienna, I'll be going there for my third visit in 10 days time. Hopefully it will be warm and sunny.
Hi Scott! I live in Burghausen in Germany on the border with Austria. I have done the journey to Vienna a number of times and then continued on to Bratislava and then Martin in Slovakia. The entire journey takes me about 10 hours. I took the BRB to Tußling. and then to Freilassing where I get the S bahn which takes me to Salzburg. I then take the Railjet to Vienna. Then two very close capitals a short trip to Bratislava and finally a 3 hour journey to Martin.
welcome to Vienna!
Rode that BRB RE5 couple months ago!
Have subscribed Scott 🥰
I reccomend you take this train to Prien then take the steam Tram down to the Chiemsee.
I do love double-deck trains, and always use the upper deck for the improved viewing experience and (generally) quiter ambience. IMO the Swiss remain the best. I just wish there were some in Britain!
Unfortunately the loading gauge (maximum height) of British trains prevents the use of double-decks.
@@Fan652w I know - and this government is never going to be pragmatic and commit funds to do something about it! Who cares about a little discomfort and overcrowding?
@@BobTravellin Making Britain's railways suitable for double-decks would mean rebuilding all our Victorian era tunnels and underbridges. Clearly impossible. What are government should be doing is spending huge sums of money on railway electrification, and (where needed) longer trains.
Scott, I have just discovered your channel, and have immediately decided to subscribe! Even from this brief video, I can see that on your travels you behave very much as I do. Eg you opted for a forward facing seat at Munich. However, if you really wanted to view the scenery on the Austrian section you should have used OBB slow trains. That would mean changing at least in Linz, Amstetten and St Polten. As far as St Polten the trains would be single-deck, but you would get some great views on the 'old' line, especially around Melk. From St Polten slow trains will be double deck but take the scenic route through the Vienna Woods. Your Westbahn train was mostly in tunnel east of St Polten!
Thank you for this! On my very last Interrail travel day, I hopped on an OBB CityJet from Westbahnhof to St. Polten for the evening and, because I wanted my last train to be with Westbahn on upper deck, I took that back to Vienna - and the very lengthy tunnel really surprised me! So, to go through the Vienna woods, take CityJet as far as St. Polten, Amstetten or Linz and THEN the Westbahn (because I love it) on to Salzburg?
Kinda surprised you couldn't book the ticket online, because that definitely is possible and also what many commuters do.
There are 4 direct WestBahn trains from Munich to Vienna. For those who do not fancy a change in Salzburg.
Westbahn is not so slow compared to ICE or Railjet between Munich an Vienna actually its pretty fast. However you got me by leaving out Linz in the timelapse sequence :-) Greets from Vienna we live some 2km from Westbahnhof :-) so Westbahn we know :-)
Perfect timing! I have an upcoming trip using BRB and Railjet from Munich to Linz, so it's nice to see the interior of the BRB trains. Fortunately I was able to book in advance and it cost me €18.90 for the entire run.
That train between salzburg and wein looked very much like those in the netherlands.
Stadler KISSes can be found all over Europe.
👍👍👍
If only UK trains were this long.
I prefer the Railjet, it has seat dividers.
Budget: Regional trains and/or Westbahn; Comfort: Railjet, Nightjet and ICE. That’s what I can conclude after the trip to Vienna a couple days ago
Next time buy a 10 euro summer ticket and take unlimited regional trains through Germany. Like to see your videos on that. And why not visit Salzburg next time?
You should take a visit to eagles nest (hitlers mountain getaway ). It’s near Salzburg. In berchestgarten. The views are stunning from up there
Guys ÖBB Railjet are faster than Westbahn
Yep stay away from the toilets in most of the trains. Good choice! ;-)
I'm now expecting a UK local train ride: Paisley - Glasgow - Carlisle via Dumfires, then over to Leeds on the Settle line (scenery!) and then from Leeds local trains to Sheffield then Nottingham to Peterborough and Thameslink to London. How many hours and how much?
Just checked you can buy the ticket online, i found on train line it costs 29€
RE50 Munich - Salzburg departs every 30 minutes from M In Germany you pay with cash !
To Salzburg every hour! Not every 30 minutes. And of course you can pay with card. And you can also book online. Maybe some bankcards from some crazy brexit countries are not accepted.
02:45 - pooor bloke. Should have taken the 'bayern ticket' for 29€ (valid on all regio trains, busses and city trams for one day 09:00 a.m. till 03:00am, for as many journeys as one wants to)
I prefer to do what you did and see the lovely scenery rather than be on some fast train, not that we have a choice in Scotland.. slow train or slow train here!
The problem w these typical regional trains is that they are equivalent to riding a local bus-not really very comfortable. Even first class is almost no difference. There is wide variation in the quality of these private operators as well. Some spend little on maintenance so there is a good chance of a failure of some kind. I find Westbahn especially cheap, like a Flixbus on rails.
What? I don't understand why you paid 35 eur. Before the D ticket I would buy a bayern ticket for around 27 EUR and you had regional trains in Bayern for the whole day and those tickets can be bought with card in the DB machines. Those ticket become especially convenient for travel with more people because every additional person costs around 7 eur. In German as I see it buying single tickets is extremely discouraged by the pricing
Yes, and you can buy it online, always, even some minutes before the trains leave.
The D-ticket is more expensive, but I agree, I don't get why they sold him this ticket instead of the Bayern-ticket, it's valid into Salzburg, even.
I have watched the train again, he is leaving at 8:56. Under the week the Bayernticket is not valid before 9. He should have jumped on the train at München Ost , then he would save the money.
D-ticket is sold as monthly subscription though and may be a hassle to get as a non-german @@barvdw There are the regional or nation wide day ticket alternatives though. (schonertag tickets, quer duthcs land etc)
Even ordinary tickets (single Journey with BRB ) and also Bayern Ticket can be bought online with DB Navigator.
This App works with credit Card.
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May you think, it s a different company (transdev - BRB) why I can buy with DB Navigator?
In Germany the (local) goverment order regional rail service on lines.
So they already paid.
They earn only on top at commision on ticket sales or on "Schwarzfahren" (fines for Not having a Ticket)
Was there a carriage for bicycles on the Austrian train? I once took a train along the north bank of the Danube to Melk from Vienna. It had a whole carriage to put bicycles in.
Certainly not a whole carriage. But I think Westbahn will carry a limited number of bikes.
Scott, BRB is not owned by the state.
I’ll be getting some serious value out of a Deutschland ticket in couple of weeks alongside freeby travel on DB due to my railway employees entitlements. I’m wondering what the price would have been from the Austrian border if you’d used a Deutschland ticket as far as there.
The Deutschland ticket is valid to Salzburg main station. You don't need an extra ticket. You can go with the Deutschland ticket to Salzburg, to Kufstein or Reutte. All towns in Austria close to the border.
@@quentinmunich9819 that’s cool , In September I doubt I’ll reach close to any borders but if u do I’ll check out how far the D ticket can send me.
@@quentinmunich9819 In case it is relevant for you, the Deutschland Ticket is also valid to Basel.
Why do continental trains all look far more appealing than British trains - or is it just my imagination 😊
Partially imagination, partially true, all depends on the trains you compare. But it is true that British trains are slightly smaller, because of the many Victorian-era bridges and tunnels, British trains have to be slimmer and not as high. But a commuter rush-hour train in France or Germany isn't always nicer than their British counterparts, and e.g. HSTs are some of the better trains from their era. The Pendolinos aren't too bad either.
Mainland Europe has a more generous loading gauge compared to UK. Hence rolling stock is larger. By the way I realise Scott did not mention this but that Westbahn train, I believe, is made in China. Chinese rolling stock manufacturers are keen to get a foothold in Europe. They must have offered Westbahn a great deal !
@@alexmcwhirter6611 from the looks of it the train he took was likely a Stadler KISS, not a CRCC train. Westbahn isn't really a regional train, either, so naturally it has some more trimmings as your standard local train.
Our trains just need to be longer.
@@alexmcwhirter6611The Westbahn Stadler Kiss Double Decker train Scott was on was made in Switzerland not China
Was so disappointed with how inefficient everything seemed about the railways i experienced in Munich during a short trip last year. Ticket machines were slow and many not accepting card is crazy. We also had to get off a train in the middle of the countryside into Munich and were given no information about how we could get to Munich central. Thanks God for Google Maps.
them modern EU rail sets look so similar to one another, probably built by bombardier transport or DB possibly even Siemens ( their flirt).
The ones shown in this video are all from Stadler Rail (Switzerland)
So, you couldn't book a €35 ticket online and the ticket machines only took cash? When did you film this, the 1990s? Nice journey though.
In case you have any viewers with Eurail or InterRail Passes, they need to keep in mind that these passes are NOT accepted by either of these companies. You need to stick with the state railways: DB, ÖBB, SBB, etc.
That's not true. BRB will accept EUrail/Interrail. Westbahn as well.
@@to_loww Well, I think it was true when I commented, but the situation has changed. I just returned from Austria, and while there, I found out that Westbahn now DOES accept the passes. However, to ride in First Class (with a First Class Pass), a pricey Seat Reservation is required. I'll delete my comment, as it's no longer correct.
Great. Attnang-Puchheim (& Vöcklabruck), the place(s) for regional and international drug trafficking 🤣😅
Munich is my least favourite city. I hope you sampled coffee and cakes while in Vienna. Should I ever make there I guess I'll gain a stone or two in weight as I'm a sucker for Torte (cake) and all things sweet
Everycity. A bit boring. Need to up the game? I think so.