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Interesting that this fight comes at the same time as Hürrem's diagnosis. Because it it frames the fight between Selim and Bayezid as being the thing that kills her. Since it requires her to actually choose between her sons and as their mother she can't do that.
What she could do is to talk to Suleiman about that. She had to have a final wish and force Suleiman to obey, for the first time he HAD to respect her order. She actually did nothing tho... That's on directors...
@@DimSK. how can suleyman obey her wish if his child (bayezid) doesn't have much heart and brain to obey his own mother? Bayezid is the one who blame for him and his children death
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i love how selim's first reaction is to ask nurbanu if she did something . this couple is unlike any other in the show , they dont pretend to be angels in front of each other . they know the other one's dark side . they do everything to protect each other . another thing i love about selim is that even tho he is well aware of the conflict between his mother and nurbanu and his mother's inclination to bayezid , he loves and respects his mother no matter what but he loves nurbanu as well and hence protects her from his mother's wrath every time even after knowing full well about her wrongdoings , he knows and understands that whatever she does is for him and his son , he doesn't expect her to be perfect and innocent . that is the most logical and realistic love story in the show . the other kings of this show could take advise from selim how to balance your relations with yr mother and love . Hurrem too is the best mother of the show . first of all she never lusted for the position of valide , all she wanted was to live at peace with her family and she always prioritized her son's happiness . she even gave nurbanu several chances just because she knew how much nurbanu loved selim . same with bayezid and hurichihan , she supported their marriage and kept it a secret just because it made bayezid happy even tho she didn't agree and was furious with it . she never hated hurichihan after that and never tortured her like the other sultanas of the show did with their daughter in laws
Many things to say... Once again I am impressed by the (lack of) intelligence of Bayezid. I mean he has a golden opportunity to discredit Selim with his father (or at least plant doubt in his mind) by going straight to the capital with the concubine who tried to poison him and let explain everything (an evidence that could corroborate in addition to Defne's confession is the fact that his sister is in the custody of Nurbanu and Selim) and sayint that that he surrenders entirely to the judgment of his father not enough to punish Selim but enough to gain points in his favor and lose some of Selim.Moreover he can take Selim or even Nurbanu of speed because one is not aware of the poisoning attempt the other does not know that it failed . But what is he doing? He gives a letter without proof while telling Suleiman that he will go and eliminate his brother without his consent. There is nothing to add. With the betrayal of his teacher Roose Bolton - not so Roose Bolton in the show disapointment - makes sense. Hurrem I understand you can't choose between your sons and you are angry with Nurbanu but could you please stop accusing her of bringing discord between Bayeznd and Selim she only did it to use to his advantage and of course trying to eliminate Bayezid but the dislike was already deep and almost without reconciliation when it came (Hurrem wrongly accused Mustafa of the same). And Selim isn't wrong when he says that Hurrem and Nurbanu are alike and they only do these things to protect their children. P.S: even though Nurbanu brought her children although I disagree but understand that she is scared I find the fact that she does not respond as sure and impulsively smarter than young Hurrem. Each successor surpasses the master but ultimately falls into the hands of their next true infernal cycle students- Hafsa then Hurrem, Nurbanu, Safiye, Kosem and Turhan-
Agreed. Bayezid is an idiot and Nurbanu is Hürrem 2.0. I think in character Hürrem accusing Nurbanu comes down to her defensiveness of her family. But in writing it comes down to a certain trope.
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Nurbanu is nothing like Hurrem!! Hurrem did what she needed to do to survive and fell in love during the process. Hurrem went through so much in the harem and was never cruel. Nurbanu is a whole different story. Did she even love Selim???
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I don't understand how brothers will go this far and kill each other. How did Bayezid turn like this against his older brother Selim? They should be protecting each other. Mustafa and Mehmet should have not died.
Selim started it. Why the rest the brothers weren't act like this? Mustafa, Beyazid, Mehmed and Cihangir were beloved each other, they always supported each other. They had done a deal that if Mustafa was Sultan one day, that they were all together, no one of them wouldn't be executed and all together they were be ruling the state. However Selim always never loved his brothers (not even Mihrimah), he killed three of his brothers (Mustafa, Cihangir and Beyazid with his sons, his own little nephews) and then he also dared to threat Mihrimah, who was his sister and his Valide Sultana. He should be more careful of what he does, not Beyazid, who always was telling the truth.
Turning point for Bayezid was when Lala Mustafa. Made the decision to back Selim…. Putting nail in coffin for Bayezid. Lala knew at that point. Selim was the future. And he had to survive.
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Bayezid like Mustafa were mot fit to rule….this scene shows why bayezid could never be Sultan. Even if Selim did do what he is accused of, Bayezid should of shown restraint. And could of gotten back at Selim without going out trying to fight him and killing many along the way. Sultan Suleyman said it perfectly….Selim sins hurt only him, But bayezid takes down the whole kingdom with him to try and get his revenge.
Even Lala said it perfectly….don’t. Make yourself wrong when you are right….but Bayezid refused to listen to reason and that’s is why he ended up like he did.
If this really happened in history, it was because Hurrem was originally a captive daughter of an Orthodox Christian Priest's family, and her Christian upbringing with our principle "we are our brother's keepers."
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Ayse too(in the show)had intentions to turn Murad against Kosem in the beginning of season 2.But then Farya came and she lost the influence. Ayse is not different from Mahidevran ,Nurbanu or Turhan.Also irl,she was kinda similar like Turhan.
@@drfhgs428 Turhan wasn't as we saw her in series, nowhere close to that. Real Ayse was turhans version of series actually but valide sultan ended her career , didn't even let her marry her own daughter Kaya with the man she wanted. At least it turned to a happy marriage. Turhan had no political power and as valide , she was overshadowed by the grand vizier koprolu who didn't like her.
@@DimSK. Yes, in MCK, Kosem in season 1 and Turhan as Haseki were shown so wrong and false. Kosem wasn't even haseki and she threatened and was superior than Safiye and Handan.Irl,that was impossible.Turhan too was not arrogant irl, like in the series. Turhan was not overshadow as Valide,and she had a lot of political influence,lol. What you had wrote about Turhan is completely false. You should read her biography.
@@drfhgs428 Turhan had no actual power, she ran to emetullah Rabia gulnus sultan for help at once when koprullu ignored her. Also haseki emetullah sultan had more influence over mehmed than Turhan did. Kosem sultan was strong as haseki , not as in series but she had power, she knew how to speak with Ahmed not to cross any limits. She had more power than safiye and more influence than handan (about handan , before she gets the haseki title)
@@DimSK. Turhan had power as Valide,and Gulnus also had power as Haseki too.Their relationship was not like Nurbanu and Safiye,not even close as their.They had neutral relationship.She didn't "run" after Gulnus for "help",but they worked together to remove one pasa from the divan. Because both of them disliked him. And during this period, Koporllu was dead. Mehmed was bad sultan,basically Turhan ruled the state from behinds(like Safiye did with her son),even after her regency title was removed.That's why people had said that after Turhan's death,his reign has come to end. Of course, Kosem was more powerful then Safiye and Handan irl, but not as concubine like in the series. She was powerful, when Handan had died, and Safiye was exiled in the Old Palace.
Say what you want about Hurrem, gods know she wasn't innocent, but she never used her children in battles against her enemies. Meanwhile Nurbanu uses her kids as a literal meat shield. Yes, case might be made that Hurrem used Mihrimah by forcing her into a political marriage, but whether you like it or not that's how it was at the time. She wasn't lying when she said that, even if Mihrimah divorced Rustem, Suleiman would've married her off again sooner or later.
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Sümbül was more loyal to Hürrem and protected her more than Suleiman ever did and that's a fact Despite being a free old man, he was still loyal to her Selim 100% would've died because he has no chance against skilled bayezid in a battle while he was a coward hiding behind his concubine
Selim was jealous when he and Bayezid were children; Bayezid’s jewelry work on the knife was better than the work Selim did. Selim ruined all of the hard work that Bayezid put in to the scabbard!
As true mother she loves both children equally just like in real life, never took side. That's a real mother who never went after positions like mahidevil and who truly loved her children, unlike mahidevil who loved only valide sultan position
Hurrem is strong in every field except as a mother.... If she would controll her children n didn't cover up their mistakes, history would be something else
I would have liked that the show introduce an event according to some sources: a spy who was under Rustem order spy the sehzade Mustafa but Mustafa managed to return to his favor and made him a faithful ally whereas. It would have subsequently made an interesting parallel to the fact that Selim managed to turn Lala Mustafa in his favor who was also to spy on him on Rustem's orders since the vizir favor Bayezid at that time. It would have shown the limits of Rustem who seems to me to underestimate these two sehzades in his own way ( Mustafa and Selim), and their ability to attract the loyalty of important and powerful people (which was true historically)
Yes that is true.That pasa who betrayed Rustem was later married with Nergisshah,and he become a loyal supporter of Mustafa. Also Lala Mustafa betrayed Bayezid irl to Selim,and he was married to Humashah(daughter of Sehzade Mehmed) later when Murad(Selim's son) ascended the throne. There is also another very important historical event missing.When Bayezid rebbelied against Selim,Suleiman planed to apoint his nephew Sultanzade Kara Sah Osman(son of Hafise Sultana)as his heir,if Selim and Murad had died. So Bayezid,couldn't not get the throne. If this had happened that will be the first case when a sultanzade(son of sultana)ascende the throne.Another example is when the sister of Mustafa I and her husband Davud Pasa wanted to apoint their son as heir to Mustafa,and also Halime Sultana supported them.But they were stoped by the statesmen. There are more missing important things which happened historically. In this show, they made Suleiman and Mustafa literally naive and stupid.
@@drfhgs428 For the appoiting of heir I Kara Sah Osman, I am agree with you I already talk in a video of MCK where I am explaining why Kosem apoint another heir instead of Bayezid if Bayezid suceed to kill Murad ( in the show but I make a parrallel with this in history) it was the tradition a Sultan would do anything to not appoint a sehzade traitor. Suleiman in history was not naive and stupid at all just like Mustafa. But in the show he was not naive too he pretends to be manipulated (to get away with it) but deep down he decides the fate of everyone in any state of consciousness. Thanks to the show to make only Nergissah as a daughter and don't include Sah, because otherwise we could have had this interesting parallel with lala Mustafa- Roose Bolton as I like to call him he has interesting historical parallels with him if we compare- and the marriage with Humasah. The problem is that the writers spent a tiny bit of time on Suleiman's grandsons -not enough time but we could see their personalities a bit- and not at all on Suleiman's granddaughters. Anyway it is always interesting to have your view :)
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Nurbanu literally more coward than hurem lmao using those child as shield. I don't know much about this series. Do nurbanu even loving selim with all of her content?
Ah yes and then say 'look what I bring you Suleiman, it's selim' Suleiman ends beyazids life She ascends Beyazid son to the throne and we say bye to suleiman Beyazid doesn't have consort Hurrem sultan is the kid's grandmother She becomes valide sultan End of history. Then we have weak valide sultans Then kosem sultan comes....
I wish at this moment beyazit shouldn't hesitate and kill selim. Beyazit had many chances to kill him but he didn't abd at last when he finally decided to kill him he lost due to the deceive from the close ones.
"Help us God!" You're damned right to be scared Nurbanu. Because when I am done with him, I am coming for you. That's what I'd say to this coward, backstabbing killer if I were in Bayazid's place
@@Sky-tv4wb Bayazid was indeed a hot-headed fool. And if it weren't for the fact that his inoccent children paid for their father's stupidity, I'd say that he got what he deserved. Selim on the other hand...backstabbing cowards who ruin other people's work so they appear better (Selim sabotagged Bayazid's bow so that he look less skilled in archery and destroyed his decorative knife, because it was better than his creation) shall never have my respect
What did nurbanu do hurrem didn't It's the same what hurem did excatly Hurrem thought she would love in peace after what she did to mustafa Mustafa was the balance between and the saftey for these two But thier mother greed for throne and ruling and discrimination above all That's the result That what hurrem did to the dystany and her children
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I am talking on Mahidevran and her greed for throne. Mahidevran alwayswanted throne, but Hurrem only wanted her children safety. Best mother and wife Hurrem Haseki!
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Sumbul is always protecting Hurrem. 🥺 Their love is Superior.❤️
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I love sumbul
If this is not the best entrance for THE HASEKI, I don't know what is! The chills!
Fr it was so cool seeing her walk in with all that power into an entrance on a battle field.
Interesting that this fight comes at the same time as Hürrem's diagnosis. Because it it frames the fight between Selim and Bayezid as being the thing that kills her. Since it requires her to actually choose between her sons and as their mother she can't do that.
What she could do is to talk to Suleiman about that. She had to have a final wish and force Suleiman to obey, for the first time he HAD to respect her order. She actually did nothing tho... That's on directors...
@@DimSK. how can suleyman obey her wish if his child (bayezid) doesn't have much heart and brain to obey his own mother? Bayezid is the one who blame for him and his children death
@@DimSK. In all fairness to her I doubt Süleyman would have listened to her. Abolishing the fratride law would be a step too far even for her.
@@MiaMaraa He was an idiot. But I don't blame him for his or his kids' deaths.
@@hurremsultanas well probably a fair treatment and equal care to both sons then
Sumbul and Hurrem are friendship goals! 💕💕
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i love how selim's first reaction is to ask nurbanu if she did something . this couple is unlike any other in the show , they dont pretend to be angels in front of each other . they know the other one's dark side . they do everything to protect each other . another thing i love about selim is that even tho he is well aware of the conflict between his mother and nurbanu and his mother's inclination to bayezid , he loves and respects his mother no matter what but he loves nurbanu as well and hence protects her from his mother's wrath every time even after knowing full well about her wrongdoings , he knows and understands that whatever she does is for him and his son , he doesn't expect her to be perfect and innocent . that is the most logical and realistic love story in the show . the other kings of this show could take advise from selim how to balance your relations with yr mother and love .
Hurrem too is the best mother of the show . first of all she never lusted for the position of valide , all she wanted was to live at peace with her family and she always prioritized her son's happiness . she even gave nurbanu several chances just because she knew how much nurbanu loved selim . same with bayezid and hurichihan , she supported their marriage and kept it a secret just because it made bayezid happy even tho she didn't agree and was furious with it . she never hated hurichihan after that and never tortured her like the other sultanas of the show did with their daughter in laws
Many things to say... Once again I am impressed by the (lack of) intelligence of Bayezid. I mean he has a golden opportunity to discredit Selim with his father (or at least plant doubt in his mind) by going straight to the capital with the concubine who tried to poison him and let explain everything (an evidence that could corroborate in addition to Defne's confession is the fact that his sister is in the custody of Nurbanu and Selim) and sayint that that he surrenders entirely to the judgment of his father not enough to punish Selim but enough to gain points in his favor and lose some of Selim.Moreover he can take Selim or even Nurbanu of speed because one is not aware of the poisoning attempt the other does not know that it failed . But what is he doing? He gives a letter without proof while telling Suleiman that he will go and eliminate his brother without his consent. There is nothing to add.
With the betrayal of his teacher Roose Bolton - not so Roose Bolton in the show disapointment - makes sense.
Hurrem I understand you can't choose between your sons and you are angry with Nurbanu but could you please stop accusing her of bringing discord between Bayeznd and Selim she only did it to use to his advantage and of course trying to eliminate Bayezid but the dislike was already deep and almost without reconciliation when it came (Hurrem wrongly accused Mustafa of the same). And Selim isn't wrong when he says that Hurrem and Nurbanu are alike and they only do these things to protect their children.
P.S: even though Nurbanu brought her children although I disagree but understand that she is scared I find the fact that she does not respond as sure and impulsively smarter than young Hurrem. Each successor surpasses the master but ultimately falls into the hands of their next true infernal cycle students- Hafsa then Hurrem, Nurbanu, Safiye, Kosem and Turhan-
Agreed. Bayezid is an idiot and Nurbanu is Hürrem 2.0. I think in character Hürrem accusing Nurbanu comes down to her defensiveness of her family. But in writing it comes down to a certain trope.
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Nurbanu is nothing like Hurrem!! Hurrem did what she needed to do to survive and fell in love during the process. Hurrem went through so much in the harem and was never cruel. Nurbanu is a whole different story. Did she even love Selim???
Sumbul always was most loyal to Hurrem! 💟
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Nurbanu bringing children in front of her to meet Hurrem😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
"Why did Uncle Bayazid come; He wants to kill my father"
No, Murad. He came to play poker with him😂😂
@Leo Bayezid and Selim will play lego game version jannisary ottomans full-scale.
@Leo But knowing this two it will be turn in squid game ( if you know what I mean) XD
@Leo So true
P.S: I don't know why your comment was delete :(
@Leo fashion show 😭
@Leo When you said that Bayezid would be eliminate first.
I mean, it's pretty bad when your mom has to show up and stop your fight.
I don't understand how brothers will go this far and kill each other. How did Bayezid turn like this against his older brother Selim? They should be protecting each other. Mustafa and Mehmet should have not died.
Selim started it. Why the rest the brothers weren't act like this? Mustafa, Beyazid, Mehmed and Cihangir were beloved each other, they always supported each other. They had done a deal that if Mustafa was Sultan one day, that they were all together, no one of them wouldn't be executed and all together they were be ruling the state. However Selim always never loved his brothers (not even Mihrimah), he killed three of his brothers (Mustafa, Cihangir and Beyazid with his sons, his own little nephews) and then he also dared to threat Mihrimah, who was his sister and his Valide Sultana. He should be more careful of what he does, not Beyazid, who always was telling the truth.
Turning point for Bayezid was when Lala Mustafa. Made the decision to back Selim…. Putting nail in coffin for Bayezid. Lala knew at that point. Selim was the future. And he had to survive.
If Hurrem came later Bayzid would kill Selim and this would be the worst for mother.
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Prince Salim was not warrior but he was clever and wiser
Hurrem Sultan is the best mother in series. ❤️❤️
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Yes
Bayezid like Mustafa were mot fit to rule….this scene shows why bayezid could never be Sultan. Even if Selim did do what he is accused of, Bayezid should of shown restraint. And could of gotten back at Selim without going out trying to fight him and killing many along the way. Sultan Suleyman said it perfectly….Selim sins hurt only him, But bayezid takes down the whole kingdom with him to try and get his revenge.
Even Lala said it perfectly….don’t. Make yourself wrong when you are right….but Bayezid refused to listen to reason and that’s is why he ended up like he did.
And that's why the whole empire got destroyed by selim
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hurrem talking to nurbanu is like hurrem talking to herself
If this really happened in history, it was because Hurrem was originally a captive daughter of an Orthodox Christian Priest's family, and her Christian upbringing with our principle "we are our brother's keepers."
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I think it's more portrayed that she's just a mother who didn't want either of her sons to die.
I feel so bad for Sultana Hurrem,
Her sons are fighting for the throne and she’s already lost one son.😢
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Two actually: Mehmet died years earlier and they just lost Cihangir.
If only she didn't do what she did to Mustafa
@@lindseyvictor4292 then she would have to see the death of all of her children
@@duafatima6535nope.
Nurbanu brought her kids to valide sultan as ayse did with valide kosem sultan too
Ayse too(in the show)had intentions to turn Murad against Kosem in the beginning of season 2.But then Farya came and she lost the influence. Ayse is not different from Mahidevran ,Nurbanu or Turhan.Also irl,she was kinda similar like Turhan.
@@drfhgs428 Turhan wasn't as we saw her in series, nowhere close to that. Real Ayse was turhans version of series actually but valide sultan ended her career , didn't even let her marry her own daughter Kaya with the man she wanted. At least it turned to a happy marriage.
Turhan had no political power and as valide , she was overshadowed by the grand vizier koprolu who didn't like her.
@@DimSK. Yes, in MCK, Kosem in season 1 and Turhan as Haseki were shown so wrong and false.
Kosem wasn't even haseki and she threatened and was superior than Safiye and Handan.Irl,that was impossible.Turhan too was not arrogant irl, like in the series.
Turhan was not overshadow as Valide,and she had a lot of political influence,lol.
What you had wrote about Turhan is completely false.
You should read her biography.
@@drfhgs428 Turhan had no actual power, she ran to emetullah Rabia gulnus sultan for help at once when koprullu ignored her. Also haseki emetullah sultan had more influence over mehmed than Turhan did.
Kosem sultan was strong as haseki , not as in series but she had power, she knew how to speak with Ahmed not to cross any limits. She had more power than safiye and more influence than handan (about handan , before she gets the haseki title)
@@DimSK. Turhan had power as Valide,and Gulnus also had power as Haseki too.Their relationship was not like Nurbanu and Safiye,not even close as their.They had neutral relationship.She didn't "run" after Gulnus for "help",but they worked together to remove one pasa from the divan. Because both of them disliked him. And during this period, Koporllu was dead.
Mehmed was bad sultan,basically Turhan ruled the state from behinds(like Safiye did with her son),even after her regency title was removed.That's why people had said that after Turhan's death,his reign has come to end.
Of course, Kosem was more powerful then Safiye and Handan irl, but not as concubine like in the series. She was powerful, when Handan had died, and Safiye was exiled in the Old Palace.
In the end lala ignore bayezid 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 that scene makes me sad
Say what you want about Hurrem, gods know she wasn't innocent, but she never used her children in battles against her enemies. Meanwhile Nurbanu uses her kids as a literal meat shield.
Yes, case might be made that Hurrem used Mihrimah by forcing her into a political marriage, but whether you like it or not that's how it was at the time. She wasn't lying when she said that, even if Mihrimah divorced Rustem, Suleiman would've married her off again sooner or later.
This scene just AMAZING! I love it so much!
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Sümbül was more loyal to Hürrem and protected her more than Suleiman ever did and that's a fact
Despite being a free old man, he was still loyal to her
Selim 100% would've died because he has no chance against skilled bayezid in a battle while he was a coward hiding behind his concubine
Selim was jealous when he and Bayezid were children; Bayezid’s jewelry work on the knife was better than the work Selim did. Selim ruined all of the hard work that Bayezid put in to the scabbard!
11:29 lol her face
Hurem can't defeat Nurbanu until her last breath I'm so sad for hurem.
As true mother she loves both children equally just like in real life, never took side. That's a real mother who never went after positions like mahidevil and who truly loved her children, unlike mahidevil who loved only valide sultan position
Mahidevran here what matter?
@@ramn_bennington always matters since there are people who compare the two
The people who supported Mustafa, destroyed him...then their support destroyed beyazid too..
HURREM NEVER PUNISHING SELIM WAS A BIG PROBLEM
Hurrem is strong in every field except as a mother.... If she would controll her children n didn't cover up their mistakes, history would be something else
I would have liked that the show introduce an event according to some sources: a spy who was under Rustem order spy the sehzade Mustafa but Mustafa managed to return to his favor and made him a faithful ally whereas.
It would have subsequently made an interesting parallel to the fact that Selim managed to turn Lala Mustafa in his favor who was also to spy on him on Rustem's orders since the vizir favor Bayezid at that time.
It would have shown the limits of Rustem who seems to me to underestimate these two sehzades in his own way ( Mustafa and Selim), and their ability to attract the loyalty of important and powerful people (which was true historically)
Yes that is true.That pasa who betrayed Rustem was later married with Nergisshah,and he become a loyal supporter of Mustafa.
Also Lala Mustafa betrayed Bayezid irl to Selim,and he was married to Humashah(daughter of Sehzade Mehmed) later when Murad(Selim's son) ascended the throne.
There is also another very important historical event missing.When Bayezid rebbelied against Selim,Suleiman planed to apoint his nephew Sultanzade Kara Sah Osman(son of Hafise Sultana)as his heir,if Selim and Murad had died. So Bayezid,couldn't not get the throne.
If this had happened that will be the first case when a sultanzade(son of sultana)ascende the throne.Another example is when the sister of Mustafa I and her husband Davud Pasa wanted to apoint their son as heir to Mustafa,and also Halime Sultana supported them.But they were stoped by the statesmen.
There are more missing important things which happened historically. In this show, they made Suleiman and Mustafa literally naive and stupid.
@@drfhgs428 For the appoiting of heir I Kara Sah Osman, I am agree with you I already talk in a video of MCK where I am explaining why Kosem apoint another heir instead of Bayezid if Bayezid suceed to kill Murad ( in the show but I make a parrallel with this in history) it was the tradition a Sultan would do anything to not appoint a sehzade traitor.
Suleiman in history was not naive and stupid at all just like Mustafa. But in the show he was not naive too he pretends to be manipulated (to get away with it) but deep down he decides the fate of everyone in any state of consciousness.
Thanks to the show to make only Nergissah as a daughter and don't include Sah, because otherwise we could have had this interesting parallel with lala Mustafa- Roose Bolton as I like to call him he has interesting historical parallels with him if we compare- and the marriage with Humasah. The problem is that the writers spent a tiny bit of time on Suleiman's grandsons -not enough time but we could see their personalities a bit- and not at all on Suleiman's granddaughters.
Anyway it is always interesting to have your view :)
😂 they want drama, not history
@@MiaMaraa I know but too bad because this history facts is better than drama 'steal the ring'
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i realize Lala Mustafah is the husband of Humashah sultan (Shezade Mehmet only daughter)
Nurbanu literally more coward than hurem lmao using those child as shield. I don't know much about this series. Do nurbanu even loving selim with all of her content?
Fate hit back hurrem. She blames nurbanu when she did the same😂
Damnit, Hurrem. Couldn't you come 5 minutes later;
Ah yes and then say 'look what I bring you Suleiman, it's selim'
Suleiman ends beyazids life
She ascends Beyazid son to the throne and we say bye to suleiman
Beyazid doesn't have consort
Hurrem sultan is the kid's grandmother
She becomes valide sultan
End of history.
Then we have weak valide sultans
Then kosem sultan comes....
Well done valide sultan true mother
Bros almost killed their mother with that stunt. 💀💀💀
I wish at this moment beyazit shouldn't hesitate and kill selim. Beyazit had many chances to kill him but he didn't abd at last when he finally decided to kill him he lost due to the deceive from the close ones.
I hate when hurrem dont trust bayezid but well its a mother love rite so she will never choose any of her sons.
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so what illness killed Hurrem , in real life and in the show?
Mahidevran curses
People around Hurrem are scared if she dies. They know what will happened to them after that hahaha..
If it was young hurrem tbere would have been no escape for nurbanu at that moment.
"Help us God!"
You're damned right to be scared Nurbanu. Because when I am done with him, I am coming for you.
That's what I'd say to this coward, backstabbing killer if I were in Bayazid's place
Someone obviously doesn't like Selim for no reason. Bayezid was a rebellious traitor, what are you even talking about.
@@Sky-tv4wb Bayazid was indeed a hot-headed fool. And if it weren't for the fact that his inoccent children paid for their father's stupidity, I'd say that he got what he deserved.
Selim on the other hand...backstabbing cowards who ruin other people's work so they appear better (Selim sabotagged Bayazid's bow so that he look less skilled in archery and destroyed his decorative knife, because it was better than his creation) shall never have my respect
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ thank god none of these happened in real life
@@DimSK. Gods yeah.
Bien machotes peleando hasta la muerte hasta que llega la mamá 😂😂😂😂 lastima que Hurram no sabia el poder de la chancleta. 😂😂😂
lala is honourable man
In the end he hides the truth infront of Suleiman he is not honourable at all he betrayed bayezid
Out of all his brothers Selim was the worst one for the throne, dude was useless
Too bad Hurrem didnt take care of her..
DONT BE COWARD selim BAYEZIED III
Почему нет субтитров на русском языке?
24:19 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA buahahahaha
Вот хорошие детки хюремки
They born from mother murdered and happy to fight so the children also like that 😂
What did nurbanu do hurrem didn't
It's the same what hurem did excatly
Hurrem thought she would love in peace after what she did to mustafa
Mustafa was the balance between and the saftey for these two
But thier mother greed for throne and ruling and discrimination above all
That's the result
That what hurrem did to the dystany and her children
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I know Hurrem was best sultana, best mother and she loved Sulyman the most. I am her biggest fan!
I am talking on Mahidevran and her greed for throne. Mahidevran alwayswanted throne, but Hurrem only wanted her children safety. Best mother and wife Hurrem Haseki!
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Mustafa was worst son of worst mother Mahidevran, who onlywanted power and used her son for her greed. She poiisoned pregnant Hurrem and tried killling Hurrem’s sons so many times. Karma is coming for Mahidevran. She will PAY with her sons and grandsons life!
Embarrasssing Mustafa- always jealous of Mehmet- most smart and strong shehzade. Instead of learning from him to be good son, he was only jealous of the love and support Mehmet had from everyone. Mustafa and Mahidevran, karma is coming after you and it won’t stop!👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
@@shoshokikocockerspaniel67ll8 Mustafa was not the reason for their safety. He'd have had to kill them when he became Sultan.
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