It's working out exactly as the Packers designed it to. They were the ones who went the route of having Love sit behind Rodgers and learn for years. Can't put that on Love that he's now at the end of his rookie contract.
Mad Dog- "Packers had to beat the bears in the last game of the year to make the playoffs and Love wasn't that great in the game" Love in that game: 27 of 32 for 316 yards 2 touchdowns and no picks...... not that great?
They have to although I do think quarterbacks are being overpaid, they have no other options. Besides, he is the best quarterback they've ever had in a while.
If it is than the entire NFL is crazy. Every throw he makes is reproducible, the dude is the real deal and in a bout 2 years this deal is going too look like a bargain.
None of these people deserve that much money. Take that money and give it back to the fans. Cheaper seats cheaper gear. Dont beg cities for money for stadiums
Jordan love had 300 + passing yards in week 18 against the bears. And should have had 4 TD, doubs dropped the ball in the end zone and got hurt. And Melton should have counted , the game said 17-9 but if you watch the game you see it was a blowout.
@@MA-jd4ui bro I agree. He doesn't deserve 50+ million dollars. As a Packers, and a believer in Jordan, respectfully he deserves more of a 32 to 40 million contract not the highest paid QB in history.
@@johnvang4443 Yes, I completely agree with you. Never said he wasn't a good quarterback. Another quarterback that doesn't deserve 50 million Trevor Lawrence. And I think jordan is better than him
@@MA-jd4ui everyone know who should be paid the most. It's mahomes. But I feel like people are forgetting that these players are humans beings. Like who would reject a 50 million dollars right in front of you. I wouldn't lol
@@johnvang4443 Yes, but i've been watching football for over 40 years, a lot of these people are out of touch. Because during all these strikes, all these players say. I gotta feed my family and they're having a hard time. Don't give me that c*** You're making millions dollars a year if you can't afford to live on that. You're stupid
If you watched any of the dozen in depth breakdowns of Jordan Loves games here on TH-cam, you'd know real quick it wasn't a fluke. He's doing a dozen things on each and every play that either other guys can't do, or that you'd only see from a veteran. So it's not just based off the 10 games. When experts dissect his games, there's no question he's elite.
You can try to ask hin to take Cousins money, and he can just say no. Then he will wait until his rookie contract is finished and force the team to pay more to keep him.
Sorry, Love has only had 8 good games! He does not deserve a large extension! There have been many many qbs that had a great 8 game stretch but then they fell back to earth. Love is overrated imo.
Likely the $ and length of contract is agreed upon, it's just coming down to things like guaranteed money, incentives, the way the contract is structured, etc. Yes, the Packers know he's their guy and want to sign him for big $, but if his agent is trying to have a record amount of money guaranteed, you can see why they'd need to negotiate on that. So I'd imagine it's just down to the specifics, and the Packers gotta do their best to ensure that if he suffers a major injury over the next few years that they aren't bankrupted as a team for half a decade.
We are now, basically, at the point where no team is going to keep a drafted QB on a second contract for less than $50 million. If you want to save money, it will either be on a rookie scale guy, a journeyman, or second chance guy. If a team doesn't want to go down that route, then they are going to pay up. It is that simple.
Yea but he might fall off and then the contract will look awful. Denver gave russ a contract extension he literally never played on. They gave him 80 million dollars to go away. Daniel jones hasnt been good since he signed his deal. We cant just assume love is gonna keep his good play up. It could go the other way.
NFL owners have been playing both sides for years: "we don't pay you for what you've done, it's what we think you can do" and "you're unproven, we don't pay you for what you haven't done yet" - so it's nice to see QBs get paid. That said, they're getting paid way too much, and I'm wondering when this QB bubble is going to POP.
It will pop when viewership significantly declines because all games are advertised on streaming services that people will refuse to pay for, and the ad revenue gravy train comes to a hault.
Bro lets see how good he is after the NFL has actual tape on him and can gameplan properly...how many times have we seen a rookie ball out and completely fall off a cliff immediately after
Their cap space won't be destroyed. Cap numbers will be lower and the cap space will dramatically increase as the new TV deals kick in. This is going to look like a bargain by the end of it.
@@mikeliterice2816 Yes. Why not? You can’t hate on another man trying to make as much as possible. Football is a dangerous sport and he wants to secure the bag for himself and his family.
Every other position in sports you have to earn your contract, besides NFL QB. Teams are going to hand out these crazy contracts and in 3 years half the teams are stuck with a crazy dead cap hit like Denver. 10 game sample size for 55M+ is a big leap of faith
@@tigera6 problem is, we don't even know if Jordan Love is good or not. Its paying based on scarcity at the position and potential. Often gets teams in big trouble
@@tigera6Gardner minshew, Blake bortles, Derek Anderson, Rex Grossman,Jake Delhomme...All QBs who had 1 good year. Imagine paying any of them 50 mil a year
@@shanemccarthy3170 then dont complain if he has another great year, and want to be the highest paid QB after that. Teams doesnt want to take any risk is just not realistic.
@@tigera6 In the last 10 years the SB winning QBs are Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford, Peyton Manning, and Russell Wilson. Overpaying a QB isn't exactly getting you a championship. Even at that there's at least 12-14 QBs at or significantly above Love's level, which is still questionable since he hasn't played much.
dude has to prove his worth what he wants. 1 season ain't enough when he had a lot of game ending interceptions. put Clifford in and see what he does, love still has a year left, he should be practicing, sitting out just makes it look like it's about him and not the team.
I've been saying this would be easiest resolution to this problem for years... They should do it like how basketball does it, If you get a pro-bowl you then qualify for a Tier 2 Max (let's say 45 million a year max for example). Then if you get an All-Pro, MVP and/or, DPOY then you qualify for Tier 1 Max which wouldn't have Cap... I bet there wouldn't be any debates then for these average to above average QB like Kirk Cousins, Trevor Lawrence, Daniel Jones, etc on how much they get paid 😂...
Paying these dudes so fast is why some of them suck in the playoffs They get paid and then take it easy cause they got nothing to prove This mostly about money not championships These days for most of these dudes Mahomes the only one lately to not let that money kill his career.. dak got paid before and always underachieves Lamar the same way as well…
As a packer fan. If im being really honest...it was half a good year. There was a point in the season where he was dead last in completion% among starters. In fact, only 2 of cleveland's backups had a lower completion% about halfway through the year. It was ugly af for a while but he won us over with his 2nd half. But $50 mil a year is crazy.
@@mountRushmore-cd5qy Packers literally beat 2 teams that were in the conference championship and were a few minutes away from beating the niners too, also Packers don’t get a first place schedule the Lions get a first place schedule.
@@michaelacker1617 you right I keep forgetting Detroit won the division,but by the Packers making playoffs they will have to play a lot of playoff teams and depending on if they play NFC west that's a tuff schedule
I’m a packer fan and I thought the same thing but you gotta think why risk getting a training camp injury and don’t get the money at all? But also I don’t even think it was Jordan choice the hold out it was his agent choice
In a league where you have to have stability at the qb position I think you have to pay him after the year he had. What other option do they have. Now if he stunk it up first year then of course not. But he led them to the playoffs and blew out the cowgirls at home. Is it a small sample size still?, yes it is, but Green Bay can’t afford to lose out on a promising qb with the team they have. They can win games with this squad and with love pulling the trigger you might as well lock him up before he gets even more expensive
It’s crazy, but not so crazy when you think how last offseason went. Love had Packers over the barrel with Rodgers gone and no one to compete for the job. Love could have sat out last offseason and asked for at least 25-35 mil per. Instead, Love signed for 13 per when Herbert got 52 per. To be honest when I saw Love sign for 13, I thought he and the Packers knew he was a bust. In his mind he might have quietly felt disrespected.
Packers would be insane to give a guy who only played one season and was only good for half of that season, 50 mill a year. Can he do it for at least multiple seasons first??
@@Kj0806 dude had half a good season and that convinced them? Lol sounds irresponsible to me. I know how the business works. Doesn’t mean I can’t critique it.
@@Benjamin-fc9ww “half a good season” lol but yet he had a years worth of production better than most other starting qbs in his only year of starting. He was 2nd in passing TDs, 7th in yards and 9th in QBR. And he also lead them to a road playoff victory with the same team Aaron Rodgers missed the playoffs with coming off back to back MVP seasons. He’s better than T law and already done more in one season and T law got 55 mil. That number will only keep going up, Purdy and stroud are both gonna pass this number and so on.
@@Kj0806 I know what’s the system is bro. I’m just saying it’s not sustainable. That’s all. Trevor shouldn’t have gotten that much either lol yes, he was awesome in the second half of the season but the first half still happened. At least Stroud was great all season long and Purdy has been to multiple championship games and a Super Bowl so they would’ve earned it. I’m sorry but I don’t think Jordan has done enough to be making this much. And again, I know how the system works lol
Bears Rookie Quarterback ask for a part of the franchise 😮we are going to smash the bears as we do every year. If we go 2-14 those to victories will be against the cubs, I mean bears they both suck!! Whatever!!
As a Packers fan let me just take a few moments to laugh at how you guys are paper tigers. You can have a spot at the grownups table when you have a winning season and actually win a playoff game.
Purdy is better than a lot of guys in the nfl, and he makes a fraction of what these big names do. I like Brock a lot and definitely think he deserves to be paid. I think Brock deserves it more than Trevor, he has a winning record, Trevor doesn't
@@corycolon1542Is it because of Purdy, or the players around him? Jimmy G took this team to the NFC Championship game & Superbowl as well... So it's not like he's playing with scrubs now lol
That’s the market price. Pack signed Rodgers with a smaller sample size in 2008 (and losing record) and gave him top 5 money. The price point is high but that’s the NFL in 2024.
Anybody with eyes knew Rodgers was elite. Love stinks. Hes mediocre at best. I hope they pay him 90 million and Kalebbzz wiLLiamzz gets 100 mil per year
@@greatwhite3676pretty sure the Packers know a good QB when they see one. The market dictates the pay day. You’re paying based on expectations of future return. Love has shown enough and the future is bright.
@@pdx816He is mediocre in the NFC Championship games but not the 2 first rounds. The first rounds are the reason why Rodgers numbers are elite in playoffs.
He doesn't actually get paid until the regular season. ALso, he phisically is at camp and going through meetings, keeping in shape. HOding out in the preseason really means nothing.
He has played one year, he is still wet behind the ears, what the heck is going on with professional sport, you used to have to prove yourself first then scale it up to market value, he is good and yes going to be great tho throwing that $50 mill collar around his neck is a very slippery slope, players get these big contracts then there seems to be a let down from them (this is professionals across the board of all sporting teams)
The argument for injuries on both sides is the same. Players want to get paid early in case they get injured and teams don't want to pay them them because of the risk of injury. The argument works both ways
Make it simple. QB salary set at $45 mil base. Then performance bonuses for milestones such as TD/Int ratio, regular season wins, Division win, playoff bonus, wildcard bonus, Conference and SB win. Bonuses not to be counted in cap space. Frees up money for other positions
I agree as a Greenbay fan I don't think he's worth 50+ million a year for half a good season because the first half was horrible but the market has changed since the Daniel Jones contract and now Lawrence contract. He has to get paid at least 53million a year
The QB contracts are getting a bit out of hand. They are going to have to do some sort of wage scale like they did with rookies in 2011. But since there isn’t one currently, Love is def worth the small sample size gamble of paying
Don't make it a race thing plz. This dude has not shown nearly enough to warrant 50 mil a year meanwhile Pat Mahomes aint I'm the top 5 highest paid QBs
Packers are in a sticky spot. They gonna take a risk and start from scratch with a new rookie QB? They don’t have Rodgers anymore to tutor the next guy. I believe Love should get that Burrow contract and then it’ll look like a steal in 2 years.
Notice who ISN'T ever in the news for "holding in"? Patrick Mahomes. He understands the peripheral wealth accumulated when you're a top QB in the NFL. I'm a big Packers' fan. I really like Jordan Love. But I think his agent is doing unnecessary damage to his image over what? A couple million bucks over 4 years?
I would have to side with Mad Dog on this take. Jordan Love hasn't done much to deserve 50+ million a year yet alone to be paid like most top 10 QBs. Stephen A. take take based on Jordan's age, talent and a projections of what Jordan Love can become in the future given what he has already accomplished with a playoff win. So paying a guy on potential , as oppose to true value in respect to what he has done is outrages. Imagine a job where you under performed should you get a salary cut? But then when you exceed expectation in that job should you get a pay raise🤔
The market should be the best player at that position gets paid the highest and everyone else fall in line according to play. QB is the only position where u can play 8 games and get paid the highest out of ALL the QB’s.. it’s sad and it definitely doesn’t bring out the best in QB’s if that’s all it takes because your contract is up
Jordan love was better then Mahomes last yr only thing that aka makes him the best is because he won another superbowl in which its a team game if ge didn't win it thus yr he would have not been the best qb
Mad Dog making excuses for Detroit v SF and acting like SF blew out GB when it was a 3pt game with a missed FG. Those two games were so similar it's crazy. Both teams up on SF and both teams blow it in the second half.
Finally Mad Dog is becoming a regular on first take. He Speaks his mind and has forgotten more about sport than most people know. Love mad dog and I stay up late at night from Australia just to watch him.
07:50 "the next thing you know the only thing guaranteed is your signing bonus!" Sure, if you voluntarily signed a contract where the only thing guaranteed is your signing bonus. That's on you and your agent.
QB salaries are mental, how can someone with 1 full season as a starter to straight to the top of the salary list, crazy. Hope his doesn’t but he could still bust 🤪🤯
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Did he just say Love didn’t play great against the Bears in week 18? 27/32 316 yards 2tds 128.6 rating. Yea terrible…
The bears was missing two starters a cornerback!! One happened too be Jalen Johnson all pro .. he literally picked on a practice squad player
@@MoneyMM2020doesn’t change the fact that he had a good game 😂😂 blame the bears not Love
That’s what I’m saying bruh I remember watching that game and dude was cooking even tho I believe we only scored 17 points
@@MoneyMM2020boo hooo
@@MoneyMM2020 you know your team isn't in a good spot when the best thing about it is that everyone is injured.
All these guys are PAID before they DELIVER!!! I wish that was me 😂😂😂
2nd in the league in tds is delivering in some way in my opinion.
RIGHT !! WTF !
Well...
It's working out exactly as the Packers designed it to. They were the ones who went the route of having Love sit behind Rodgers and learn for years. Can't put that on Love that he's now at the end of his rookie contract.
@@rd_2107 exactly, how'd that work out for the giants
Nah that was crazy Molly really tried SAS w that 😂
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Ayooooooo 😂😂😂😂
Wild thingsss hmmmmmm
😂😂😂😂😂 He be throwing hail Mary's at 2am
Crazy how RYAN compared the QB market to Stephen A. and his contract, while he is currently negotiating! LOL
Mad dog said swagu return my calls 😂😂
Tryin to be down 😂
Ever since swagu found out and dog did weed gummies he loved him
@@JayK07for real 😂
@@JayK07it’s a good reason 😂😂
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Molly please stop talking
You don’t want that
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Mad Dog- "Packers had to beat the bears in the last game of the year to make the playoffs and Love wasn't that great in the game"
Love in that game: 27 of 32 for 316 yards 2 touchdowns and no picks...... not that great?
These dudes don’t actually watch the games
Mad Dog is the worst analyst
@@colinniland1712 Ryan and Stephen A do. Mad Dog is too buy eating gummies and calling Fat Rob.
@YOUSHALLKNOWPAIN999Packers never almost lost that game they were in control of the game from start.
@@ChadHelmkehe's pretty good on High Heat for baseball, but the other sports not so much.
Can't believe Jags gave Lawrence all that money
The Jags have been the worst team since they started. I’m not sure if it is just the organization is so bad and most QBs would have failed going there
They have to although I do think quarterbacks are being overpaid, they have no other options. Besides, he is the best quarterback they've ever had in a while.
@@davidbarnes4742 jags was one of the better teams the last 2 years
Imagining how all these QB are getting paid more than Mahomes. It's crazy
The browns are the ones who messed it all up
Giving someone 500 million after one year of work is crazy.
If it is than the entire NFL is crazy. Every throw he makes is reproducible, the dude is the real deal and in a bout 2 years this deal is going too look like a bargain.
@@TheSheemedthe nfl is crazy. They throw a ball around for work
Do you watch football?
It’s called having leverage
@@plantbasedministries9233yes that’s why it’s crazy. Bro was basically .500 and beat the cowboys lol
None of these people deserve that much money. Take that money and give it back to the fans. Cheaper seats cheaper gear. Dont beg cities for money for stadiums
I live to avoid you 😂
Molly always on queue interrupting lol
Jordan love had 300 + passing yards in week 18 against the bears. And should have had 4 TD, doubs dropped the ball in the end zone and got hurt. And Melton should have counted , the game said 17-9 but if you watch the game you see it was a blowout.
I don't give a c*** what you say. He's not worth fifty million dollars a year
@@MA-jd4ui bro I agree. He doesn't deserve 50+ million dollars. As a Packers, and a believer in Jordan, respectfully he deserves more of a 32 to 40 million contract not the highest paid QB in history.
@@johnvang4443 Yes, I completely agree with you. Never said he wasn't a good quarterback. Another quarterback that doesn't deserve 50 million Trevor Lawrence. And I think jordan is better than him
@@MA-jd4ui everyone know who should be paid the most. It's mahomes. But I feel like people are forgetting that these players are humans beings. Like who would reject a 50 million dollars right in front of you. I wouldn't lol
@@johnvang4443 Yes, but i've been watching football for over 40 years, a lot of these people are out of touch. Because during all these strikes, all these players say. I gotta feed my family and they're having a hard time. Don't give me that c*** You're making millions dollars a year if you can't afford to live on that. You're stupid
Bro had 10 good games and he thinks he's worth 50 M's... Give him Kirk Cousins money.
More good games than Trevor Lawersbcey
Lawerence
Next man up bro
If you watched any of the dozen in depth breakdowns of Jordan Loves games here on TH-cam, you'd know real quick it wasn't a fluke. He's doing a dozen things on each and every play that either other guys can't do, or that you'd only see from a veteran. So it's not just based off the 10 games. When experts dissect his games, there's no question he's elite.
You can try to ask hin to take Cousins money, and he can just say no. Then he will wait until his rookie contract is finished and force the team to pay more to keep him.
Jags really messed up the QB market. Love showed more promise than Lawrence and it was only half a season 😂😂😂
Number one pick that won a playoff game will get paid plus by the time that contract kicks in, he won be highest paid
@@jaylenhall7318it doesn’t matter he should’ve NEVER been highest paid to begin with
Sorry, Love has only had 8 good games! He does not deserve a large extension! There have been many many qbs that had a great 8 game stretch but then they fell back to earth. Love is overrated imo.
@@realngga0 nature of business, he was next up. Lol. You don’t tank the position just bc someone like you doesn’t think it’s good for them.
Can’t blame only the Jags. Lawrence has more post season wins than Herbert with less talent around him.
If Greenbay thinks he's their guy, they should pay him. The price is only going to go up the longer you wait.
Bingo. Finally someone with sense. Thank you.
Likely the $ and length of contract is agreed upon, it's just coming down to things like guaranteed money, incentives, the way the contract is structured, etc.
Yes, the Packers know he's their guy and want to sign him for big $, but if his agent is trying to have a record amount of money guaranteed, you can see why they'd need to negotiate on that. So I'd imagine it's just down to the specifics, and the Packers gotta do their best to ensure that if he suffers a major injury over the next few years that they aren't bankrupted as a team for half a decade.
We are now, basically, at the point where no team is going to keep a drafted QB on a second contract for less than $50 million. If you want to save money, it will either be on a rookie scale guy, a journeyman, or second chance guy. If a team doesn't want to go down that route, then they are going to pay up. It is that simple.
Crazy that they pushed out Aaron because "hes too much drama" but they will pay this guy after 1 season. Joke franchise.
Yea but he might fall off and then the contract will look awful. Denver gave russ a contract extension he literally never played on. They gave him 80 million dollars to go away. Daniel jones hasnt been good since he signed his deal. We cant just assume love is gonna keep his good play up. It could go the other way.
This is normal. Sometimes a team sets the market value and/or pays high (now) beforehand because it’ll only get higher
Molly is unbearable I swear 🤦
Never met a Molly that wasn’t 😂
@@RonnieDellarsina 💯
Don’t watch or listen. Simple
NFL owners have been playing both sides for years: "we don't pay you for what you've done, it's what we think you can do" and "you're unproven, we don't pay you for what you haven't done yet" - so it's nice to see QBs get paid. That said, they're getting paid way too much, and I'm wondering when this QB bubble is going to POP.
It will pop when viewership significantly declines because all games are advertised on streaming services that people will refuse to pay for, and the ad revenue gravy train comes to a hault.
Ryan Clark speaks like the In Living color's Damon Wayans from jail.
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gotta be levels to QB pay, everyone isn't worth 50mil just cuz u win a playoff game or because it's your turn to be paid
That's not how capitalism works little boy
Packers fan here, no way you can pay Love $50M a year yet.
HATERRRRRR your not a packers fan oml stop saying you is😂🤡 giv det man that 50m, how you don't wanna see you QB get paid your slowww 😂
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What the difference between love and Lawrence?
@@jojo__22one has played 3 years and got overpaid and one has played half a good season looking to be overpaid
Sure you can. Look at what Lawerence got.
Bro lets see how good he is after the NFL has actual tape on him and can gameplan properly...how many times have we seen a rookie ball out and completely fall off a cliff immediately after
As a Bears fan, I hope they pay Love $70 million a year! We want their cap space destroyed!
Haha same 🙈
They would still own the Bears regardless 😂
@@sit2go Yeah? I didn’t know you’re Nostradamus! Can you give me the winning lottery numbers while you’re predicting the future?! Fool! FGB 😂
Their cap space won't be destroyed. Cap numbers will be lower and the cap space will dramatically increase as the new TV deals kick in. This is going to look like a bargain by the end of it.
@@bigdogstatus83 They’ve owned you clowns for decades. Take the hint sweetie.
I don’t need a psychic to see that 😂
The entitlement is insane these days
You’re saying 9 above average games doesn’t make you the next GOAT????? Are you crazy 😂
Entitlement? It’s called business. He’s not on unemployment, he’s working for his money.
@@KevinJ.-rc4ih not even a 3 year starter and he wants to be paid like hes worth 50 mil
@@mikeliterice2816 Yes. Why not? You can’t hate on another man trying to make as much as possible. Football is a dangerous sport and he wants to secure the bag for himself and his family.
Paying qbs that much is wild, especially mid level guys
no it isnt especially when these owners make billions on billions
@@princecheck11 What owner has only been there for half a season?
Most of the owners have been with their teams from Years to Decades...
@@TheKnightofAwesomeness are you drunk?
@@princecheck11 Are you?
Nfl will have to increase salary cap or cap qb salaries. This is insane lol.
They increase the cap every year and to be fair no one is forcing the owners to pay the qb's top money. But im glad the players are getting paid.
They increase the cap every year that's why contracts get bigger. I truly don't understand why this is so hard for you people to grasp
@@JimeLello Settle down big shot lol.
Every other position in sports you have to earn your contract, besides NFL QB. Teams are going to hand out these crazy contracts and in 3 years half the teams are stuck with a crazy dead cap hit like Denver. 10 game sample size for 55M+ is a big leap of faith
Good QB is a luxury thing in the NFL. Teams cant with unless they have a goof QB on the team, so they are willing to throw money at decent QB
@@tigera6 problem is, we don't even know if Jordan Love is good or not. Its paying based on scarcity at the position and potential. Often gets teams in big trouble
@@tigera6Gardner minshew, Blake bortles, Derek Anderson, Rex Grossman,Jake Delhomme...All QBs who had 1 good year. Imagine paying any of them 50 mil a year
@@shanemccarthy3170 then dont complain if he has another great year, and want to be the highest paid QB after that. Teams doesnt want to take any risk is just not realistic.
@@tigera6 In the last 10 years the SB winning QBs are Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford, Peyton Manning, and Russell Wilson. Overpaying a QB isn't exactly getting you a championship. Even at that there's at least 12-14 QBs at or significantly above Love's level, which is still questionable since he hasn't played much.
dude has to prove his worth what he wants. 1 season ain't enough when he had a lot of game ending interceptions. put Clifford in and see what he does, love still has a year left, he should be practicing, sitting out just makes it look like it's about him and not the team.
Bro the side conversations dont work with all shows... 😂leave that to Pat and the boys
Terrible idea to pay him that much this soon
Implement a cap rule where if you haven’t won a Super Bowl you’re only eligible for a certain amount… simple
Or diff thresholds for certain accomplishments I.e. all pros, playoff wins etc
I've been saying this would be easiest resolution to this problem for years...
They should do it like how basketball does it, If you get a pro-bowl you then qualify for a Tier 2 Max (let's say 45 million a year max for example). Then if you get an All-Pro, MVP and/or, DPOY then you qualify for Tier 1 Max which wouldn't have Cap...
I bet there wouldn't be any debates then for these average to above average QB like Kirk Cousins, Trevor Lawrence, Daniel Jones, etc on how much they get paid 😂...
Paying these dudes so fast is why some of them suck in the playoffs
They get paid and then take it easy cause they got nothing to prove
This mostly about money not championships
These days for most of these dudes
Mahomes the only one lately to not let that money kill his career.. dak got paid before and always underachieves
Lamar the same way as well…
That is not why they suck in the playoffs. Don't be dense.
@@chriskay1449Dak sucks against good teams just look at his record in the playoffs and regular season against teams over .500...
QB pay is ridiculous.
Yupp good ol boys club at work..qb's and wr's have ruined the game
Lol, he played one season. Now defensive coordinators have video on Love and production will go down so lets give him $50 million a year😂
I'm gonna laugh so hard at Packers overpaying a guy who only had 1 great half season, then laugh even harder when he shits the bed this year.
Which is possible, but would u admit ur wrong if he doesn’t?
Mad dog had that chain popping huh? Looking ahh😂😂🤣😂
DO NOT PAY A QB 50 PLUS BASED ON ONE GOOD YEAR.
Right,green bay about to have a first place schedule.now let's see how he do.he did have a pretty good year tho
As a packer fan. If im being really honest...it was half a good year. There was a point in the season where he was dead last in completion% among starters. In fact, only 2 of cleveland's backups had a lower completion% about halfway through the year. It was ugly af for a while but he won us over with his 2nd half. But $50 mil a year is crazy.
@@mountRushmore-cd5qy Packers literally beat 2 teams that were in the conference championship and were a few minutes away from beating the niners too, also Packers don’t get a first place schedule the Lions get a first place schedule.
@@michaelacker1617 you right I keep forgetting Detroit won the division,but by the Packers making playoffs they will have to play a lot of playoff teams and depending on if they play NFC west that's a tuff schedule
Daniel Jones: 😶
That felt like a sitcom at the end. 🤣
NFL should exempt qb salaries from the cap because these numbers only going to get crazier
FACTS
50 mil for a 9-8 season where you threw for under 200 yards and 2 INTs in your last game?
I LOVE Jordan Love. He’s the truth. But am I crazy to say you can’t be holding out after playing 1 season still?
I’m a packer fan and I thought the same thing but you gotta think why risk getting a training camp injury and don’t get the money at all? But also I don’t even think it was Jordan choice the hold out it was his agent choice
In a league where you have to have stability at the qb position I think you have to pay him after the year he had. What other option do they have. Now if he stunk it up first year then of course not. But he led them to the playoffs and blew out the cowgirls at home. Is it a small sample size still?, yes it is, but Green Bay can’t afford to lose out on a promising qb with the team they have. They can win games with this squad and with love pulling the trigger you might as well lock him up before he gets even more expensive
Insane right
You can't risk an injury without a deal
It’s crazy, but not so crazy when you think how last offseason went. Love had Packers over the barrel with Rodgers gone and no one to compete for the job. Love could have sat out last offseason and asked for at least 25-35 mil per. Instead, Love signed for 13 per when Herbert got 52 per. To be honest when I saw Love sign for 13, I thought he and the Packers knew he was a bust. In his mind he might have quietly felt disrespected.
These are the only 3 people I watch when it comes to first take
Love has played better overall than most other QB's that got paid lol
Mad Dog was on an earlier episode saying how good Jordan Love is and how he would put him in this top 10 QBs right now!
Packers would be insane to give a guy who only played one season and was only good for half of that season, 50 mill a year. Can he do it for at least multiple seasons first??
Seen enough he's that man and definitely learned from the best Rodgers
Not how this works buddy learn the business before you open your mouth. The longer they wait the higher the price goes up.
@@Kj0806 dude had half a good season and that convinced them? Lol sounds irresponsible to me. I know how the business works. Doesn’t mean I can’t critique it.
@@Benjamin-fc9ww “half a good season” lol but yet he had a years worth of production better than most other starting qbs in his only year of starting. He was 2nd in passing TDs, 7th in yards and 9th in QBR. And he also lead them to a road playoff victory with the same team Aaron Rodgers missed the playoffs with coming off back to back MVP seasons. He’s better than T law and already done more in one season and T law got 55 mil. That number will only keep going up, Purdy and stroud are both gonna pass this number and so on.
@@Kj0806 I know what’s the system is bro. I’m just saying it’s not sustainable. That’s all. Trevor shouldn’t have gotten that much either lol yes, he was awesome in the second half of the season but the first half still happened. At least Stroud was great all season long and Purdy has been to multiple championship games and a Super Bowl so they would’ve earned it. I’m sorry but I don’t think Jordan has done enough to be making this much. And again, I know how the system works lol
Bro said “Charles Barkley” lol
As a bears fan please pay him 50m a year lol
As a Bears fan I think you should sit this one out 😂
@naniagassa17 😂 Facts!!
Bears Rookie Quarterback ask for a part of the franchise 😮we are going to smash the bears as we do every year. If we go 2-14 those to victories will be against the cubs, I mean bears they both suck!! Whatever!!
Bears fans don't know what a great QB that throws for over 4000 yards and 30 TD's lloks like because they never had one.
As a Packers fan let me just take a few moments to laugh at how you guys are paper tigers. You can have a spot at the grownups table when you have a winning season and actually win a playoff game.
I bet they don’t think Purdy deserves a contract
Purdy is better than a lot of guys in the nfl, and he makes a fraction of what these big names do. I like Brock a lot and definitely think he deserves to be paid. I think Brock deserves it more than Trevor, he has a winning record, Trevor doesn't
@@corycolon1542Is it because of Purdy, or the players around him?
Jimmy G took this team to the NFC Championship game & Superbowl as well... So it's not like he's playing with scrubs now lol
put….Lamar Jackson on the 49ers…. what they win with Christian McCaffrey.
That’s the market price. Pack signed Rodgers with a smaller sample size in 2008 (and losing record) and gave him top 5 money. The price point is high but that’s the NFL in 2024.
Anybody with eyes knew Rodgers was elite. Love stinks. Hes mediocre at best. I hope they pay him 90 million and Kalebbzz wiLLiamzz gets 100 mil per year
@@greatwhite3676pretty sure the Packers know a good QB when they see one. The market dictates the pay day. You’re paying based on expectations of future return. Love has shown enough and the future is bright.
@@pdx816 whatever bro. Paying Love 50 million is wild after 8 mediocre games. A playoff win where literally everything went right.
@@greatwhite3676yes thanks to Love. Rodgers was mediocre in the playoffs since the Super Bowl with maybe one or two exceptions
@@pdx816He is mediocre in the NFC Championship games but not the 2 first rounds.
The first rounds are the reason why Rodgers numbers are elite in playoffs.
Wish i could work half the year and get a full salary. Lol
Lol 89-25 is literally crazy
These contracts are super at this point
Players contracts and the salary cap don’t go hand in hand.
Why do these guys get a to holdout he signed a deal last year if u sucked the packers wouldn’t ask for the $ back. Should not be able to do this
He doesn't actually get paid until the regular season. ALso, he phisically is at camp and going through meetings, keeping in shape. HOding out in the preseason really means nothing.
Mad Dog literally said next man up at the beginning of his analysis literally.
he is worth every penny.
They have no choice but to pay Jordan Love.💯
He has played one year, he is still wet behind the ears, what the heck is going on with professional sport, you used to have to prove yourself first then scale it up to market value, he is good and yes going to be great tho throwing that $50 mill collar around his neck is a very slippery slope, players get these big contracts then there seems to be a let down from them (this is professionals across the board of all sporting teams)
You aren't paying him for what he did. You are paying him for what you believe he will do in the future.
@@chriskay1449 if that was the case then you and i should have the spoils of reward overflowing in years
The argument for injuries on both sides is the same. Players want to get paid early in case they get injured and teams don't want to pay them them because of the risk of injury. The argument works both ways
Why Molly won't shut up. Replace her with Cassidy Hubbard. She knows her role. Be quiet and look pretty.
They see him everyday in practice. They know his value. Dude sat for 4 years and progressed. They know what they have
Make it simple.
QB salary set at $45 mil base. Then performance bonuses for milestones such as TD/Int ratio, regular season wins, Division win, playoff bonus, wildcard bonus, Conference and SB win.
Bonuses not to be counted in cap space. Frees up money for other positions
WHY don't Mad Dog breakdown Treavor Lawrence screw up like Jordan Love talks..??
Molly initiates contact? SAS sends Molly wild foul messages??
Alright man yall aint fooling me lmao
He ain’t worth no 50 million yet and might not ever be but with that being said he could be that boy just not yet
I agree as a Greenbay fan I don't think he's worth 50+ million a year for half a good season because the first half was horrible but the market has changed since the Daniel Jones contract and now Lawrence contract. He has to get paid at least 53million a year
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Give the man the money …it ain’t coming outta my pocket..lol
Lawrence Deal cooked the league. The ironic part is....His deal in a couple years is gonna look cheap 😂
The QB contracts are getting a bit out of hand. They are going to have to do some sort of wage scale like they did with rookies in 2011. But since there isn’t one currently, Love is def worth the small sample size gamble of paying
Never have these pocket watching discussions for YT QBs
All the time ex KIRK COUSINS
@@isaiahh4108 only time. And not even on all of his deals. And he’s mid imo. But OK
Don't make it a race thing plz. This dude has not shown nearly enough to warrant 50 mil a year meanwhile Pat Mahomes aint I'm the top 5 highest paid QBs
@@CampChamp00 it is what it is IMO
Omg, 3:30 when they actually start the debate n they wonder y espn is wut it is.?? Pat mac cant be on every segment
Packers are in a sticky spot. They gonna take a risk and start from scratch with a new rookie QB? They don’t have Rodgers anymore to tutor the next guy. I believe Love should get that Burrow contract and then it’ll look like a steal in 2 years.
In no world are they gonna start from scratch with a new qb lmfao
@@BratatoChip yeah I hope not.
Lamar didn’t earn his contract over four years of starting but Jordan Love deserves this because of 10 decent games
Notice who ISN'T ever in the news for "holding in"? Patrick Mahomes. He understands the peripheral wealth accumulated when you're a top QB in the NFL. I'm a big Packers' fan. I really like Jordan Love. But I think his agent is doing unnecessary damage to his image over what? A couple million bucks over 4 years?
I would have to side with Mad Dog on this take. Jordan Love hasn't done much to deserve 50+ million a year yet alone to be paid like most top 10 QBs. Stephen A. take take based on Jordan's age, talent and a projections of what Jordan Love can become in the future given what he has already accomplished with a playoff win. So paying a guy on potential , as oppose to true value in respect to what he has done is outrages. Imagine a job where you under performed should you get a salary cut? But then when you exceed expectation in that job should you get a pay raise🤔
There's a gift for making people smile. Thank you for sharing it.
Brock Pursy better get 75 mil a year. In today’s NFL all you have to do is not be bad enough to get cut and you get record-breaking money
The market should be the best player at that position gets paid the highest and everyone else fall in line according to play. QB is the only position where u can play 8 games and get paid the highest out of ALL the QB’s.. it’s sad and it definitely doesn’t bring out the best in QB’s if that’s all it takes because your contract is up
Jordan love was better then Mahomes last yr only thing that aka makes him the best is because he won another superbowl in which its a team game if ge didn't win it thus yr he would have not been the best qb
He did win his 1st playoff game really young
Stephen A and Molly worship the nfl all year round and couldn’t answer what the salary cap is? What? Lead analyst and lead host? Cmon.
1 year isn't enough. Let him play out then Franchise him if needed
Mad Dog making excuses for Detroit v SF and acting like SF blew out GB when it was a 3pt game with a missed FG. Those two games were so similar it's crazy. Both teams up on SF and both teams blow it in the second half.
Please Green Bay. Please ruin your salary cap for a flash in the pan
Not my boy flexing the jesus piece why is nobody talking about this 😂
Finally Mad Dog is becoming a regular on first take. He Speaks his mind and has forgotten more about sport than most people know. Love mad dog and I stay up late at night from Australia just to watch him.
Sorry to bother you Adam for your take on this while you were out driving 😭!!!
After all that Stephen A and Ryan Clark pick Detroit for the division 😂😂😂 GB ain't paying $55 a year to not win their division.
This take was actually hilarious 😂
07:50 "the next thing you know the only thing guaranteed is your signing bonus!"
Sure, if you voluntarily signed a contract where the only thing guaranteed is your signing bonus. That's on you and your agent.
Total 180 by SAS on D. C. From the day he was hired you gotta love it 😂😂😂
Lucky era. Salaries rising. He got a nonplayoff team to the playoffs while first year at the helm.
He's simply asking for the current market rate for top QB's.
Green Bay can certainly pay him, and he's earned it.
What has Herbert or Lawrence done?
Pay em. NFL and their GMs will just embezzle the rest. Id rather have it go to the players
QB salaries are mental, how can someone with 1 full season as a starter to straight to the top of the salary list, crazy. Hope his doesn’t but he could still bust 🤪🤯
Is it me or is RC taking shots at SA
So Purdy should be higher than love, dak Lamar, Goff and everyone else based on the numbers and value...
Guy played 9 good games in only year playing and they wanna pay him 50mill while he had months off since then . Maybe after the second year pay him