Love this actually read this a few days ago and felt heart skip a beat so glad to see you tie it into old testament makes me feel better I think this was just for me thank you
This is excellent!!! Thank you for all the scriptural references for us to do Bible study on our own. You make a great case for the believer of losing blessings, not salvation. And I have to admit, I generally follow the reformed theology view about most things but could never really hold on to its view in this case. I have believed in the fourth view that you mentioned, the Disney World view lol. But, I think this is a very solid teaching, and I am convinced, thank you again!
Thank you for clearing this whole passage up for me. Love the way you gather all the Biblical info on any given topic and deal with it. I'm currently going through your work on Soteriology too and loving and learning lots there also.
Very nice work, though I'm not sure about the "impossible for the group, but not for God" interpretation. It seems as with Hebrews 10, the danger of renouncing Christ is irrevocable, and repentance again is actually impossible since you would be recrucifying Christ. If you have known God in this way, tasted , enlightened, etc, to turn back after having received the best God has to offer, to reject it is to seal your fate. There will not be a way to repent and receive Christ again. This would not necessarily mean loss of salvation, but could entail a permanent loss of maturity, blessings, and future reward.
I hold a moderate free grace view and I would mostly concur with the conclusion arrived at by Dr Woods on Hebrews 6. The passage reads: "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame" For me personally, I feel that the key word to understanding the warning is "again", it suggests strongly to me that the audience to whom the writer is writing to had ever been renewed unto repentance (i.e. received a saving knowledge of Christ and His finished work). Using the concept of the "three tenses of salvation" (something Dr Earl Radmacher likes to advocate), being "renewed again unto repentance" seems to me instead to indicate salvation in the continuous tense (i.e. sanctification) and not salvation in the past tense (i.e. regeneration). When a Christian constantly refuses the Lord's discipline and correction, and instead allows himself to be controlled by his flesh rather than to allow his life to be controlled by the Holy Spirit, God cannot permit any further repentance in the life of such an individual. Another exegesis of Hebrews 6 that I recommend is by Dr RT Kendall. Amazingly, despite Dr Kendall's reformed/amillennial background, he comes to an exact same conclusion albeit the fact that Dr Kendall uses the story of King Saul to come to his conclusion instead of the Kadesh Barnea episode.
Love this actually read this a few days ago and felt heart skip a beat so glad to see you tie it into old testament makes me feel better I think this was just for me thank you
This is excellent!!! Thank you for all the scriptural references for us to do Bible study on our own. You make a great case for the believer of losing blessings, not salvation. And I have to admit, I generally follow the reformed theology view about most things but could never really hold on to its view in this case. I have believed in the fourth view that you mentioned, the Disney World view lol. But, I think this is a very solid teaching, and I am convinced, thank you again!
Thank you for clearing this whole passage up for me. Love the way you gather all the Biblical info on any given topic and deal with it.
I'm currently going through your work on Soteriology too and loving and learning lots there also.
Great teaching, thanks!
Very nice work, though I'm not sure about the "impossible for the group, but not for God" interpretation. It seems as with Hebrews 10, the danger of renouncing Christ is irrevocable, and repentance again is actually impossible since you would be recrucifying Christ. If you have known God in this way, tasted , enlightened, etc, to turn back after having received the best God has to offer, to reject it is to seal your fate. There will not be a way to repent and receive Christ again. This would not necessarily mean loss of salvation, but could entail a permanent loss of maturity, blessings, and future reward.
I hold a moderate free grace view and I would mostly concur with the conclusion arrived at by Dr Woods on Hebrews 6. The passage reads:
"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame"
For me personally, I feel that the key word to understanding the warning is "again", it suggests strongly to me that the audience to whom the writer is writing to had ever been renewed unto repentance (i.e. received a saving knowledge of Christ and His finished work). Using the concept of the "three tenses of salvation" (something Dr Earl Radmacher likes to advocate), being "renewed again unto repentance" seems to me instead to indicate salvation in the continuous tense (i.e. sanctification) and not salvation in the past tense (i.e. regeneration). When a Christian constantly refuses the Lord's discipline and correction, and instead allows himself to be controlled by his flesh rather than to allow his life to be controlled by the Holy Spirit, God cannot permit any further repentance in the life of such an individual.
Another exegesis of Hebrews 6 that I recommend is by Dr RT Kendall. Amazingly, despite Dr Kendall's reformed/amillennial background, he comes to an exact same conclusion albeit the fact that Dr Kendall uses the story of King Saul to come to his conclusion instead of the Kadesh Barnea episode.