The Dance and Brothers revolver was one of the best quality Confederate-made revolvers of the Civil War. In this video I'll try out Pietta's replica of that fine revolver from Texas.
I like your comment RE: chain fire. I was told (many years ago) by an old timer, that chain fire initiated from the front and greased chambers were mandatory. Don't remember who, but one guy with a high speed camera, proved that chain fire can initiate from both the front and the back. In all cases where he succeeded in getting a chain fire, "loose fitting" allowed it. Loose ball, tight cap, chain fire from the front. Loose cap, tight ball, chain fire from the rear. This didn't happen every time, but these were the causes in each instance where he succeeded in getting a chain fire. Greased chambers helped the loose ball, but it was Russian roulette with the loose caps. Glad you're back. I've missed you.
It's nice to see Pietta having the Confederate guns out now like the Dance and the Griswold & Gunnison. I might have to get one of these when I hope to start competing in blackpowder revolver again just to have something that is a little different.
My dad taught me to load five whether it was a cap & ball or his Ruger new model Blackhawk. Turns out the Ruger has a recall for transfer bar problems and accidental discharge. Just shows me dads good habits were right.
That’s a really cool revolver. .44 is my preferred size so to see that shape in .44 is awesome. I wish it had a hexagonal barrel that would be the prefect one!
I would like to thank you for the videos. The information in them has helped me with my pistols. I have a 1851 brass framed Navy in 44 with a 7.5 inch barrel and just recently bought a 1858 new model brass framed Army with a 12 inch barrel. I agree that the 1851 shoots way high but the Army is more accurate for me. Extremely glad you are back doing these videos, learn something every time i watch.
Your channel is my first view of a cap & ball revolvers. I find the technology advancement over the years very interesting. From flintlocks on... Thanks!
thank you Duelist for all of the time and expertise you put in to all of your videos. I watch TH-cam every day, in fact way more often than network TV. You are one of my favorite youtube contributers.
Hi! So glad you're doing well! Very worried about you when you had broken your ribs and did in your shoulder. We've been praying for you. Wonderful and informative video as always. Enjoy your in-depth reviews of old tech pistols and rifles. Good that they have the all steel frame. Yeah better than the pseudo Griswald used in Hell on Wheels although the show is awesome. Pietta makes some great stuff! Thank you.
I have the Uberi 1862 police in .36 cal. I love it. It only holds 5 rounds. My absolute favorite C&B so far is the Spiller and Burr. It's the most accurate even out to 50yds. I've been looking for a Starr in SA. Dixie has had them on back order for a year so far. Love your range.
Another great, informative video. I've learned a lot from your other cap and ball videos. Now I know how to take them apart and actually re-assemble. Thanks!
Hi Mike, I was not aware that you were out of action. I am glad to see that you're up and moving around well. Please continue to stay healthy. I truly enjoy your videos and you're a truth wealth of information. I Also have the Pieta Dance and it's truly my favorite cap and ball revolver. Sincerest Regards Always, ~Keith
+Diktator Alexander I uploaded a new video today! But unfortunately at the moment I cannot upload videos at the frequency I used too. Thanks for being a fan!
My grandpa taught me to load five for carry and six when you're "Loaded for bear." And his grandpa taught him. His grandpa was a veteran of "The war of Northern aggression."
As a historian I would like to make the point SC fired on a UnIon Fort in 1861…. The war was a rebellion started by Southern hostile action…. The overriding cause was slavery, despite the revisionist history of the lost cause. States Rights? Yes the right for states to continue own slaves and to be able to continue to add slave states to new territories… just saying. I would also note I was born a “Yankee” but I have adopted the South as my home for most of my adult life. 😅
I do believe the lack of a recoil shield on Dance was due to materials shortage. I found the balance on the Dance quite good, the Dance and Spiller and Burr are among my favorites! Great videos! Love the details! Subscribing now!
Very true about the ball size being necessary for a good fit to seal the chamber. I have had a chain fire in an 1849 baby dragon replica. I was using .315" balls which were loose enough to push into the chambers with my fingers. I did grease the chambers liberally as I always have and both chambers on the left and right of the chamber in firing position fired. Thank goodness it did nothing to me at all except make my heart skip a beat when I realized three chambers were fired after shooting one shot. I did hear two very quick pops when I fired which made me wonder and that's when I noticed it. I never would have believed it would fire with greased chambers but it did. So, the moral of the story is NEVER use undersized bullets of any type in a cap and ball revolver even if it's greased!
As always great video. Interestingly I just watched another youtube about the Pietta Dance, and it had a square trigger guard. He even commented that it was inaccurate and he was planning on replacing it.
The only revolvers I'd feel safe fully loading are: The Remington percussion with the easy-remove cylinder, & a modern revolver with safety systems that allow that.
Good to have you back.I have a Pietta J H Dance. With that navy grip and 8in.barrel it points very nicely.It's only problem is it shoots 10in. Left at 15yds. Welcome back and take care of yourself. It was a long winter not watching your videos.
really liked your peacemaker article. your comparison of the colt and a Rolex were quite fitting I believe. keep yours close bro and glad to see you shooting again
I enjoy your videos very much. You often talk about chain fire mostly coming from the cap end, and assert that the grease doesn't prevent chain fire. In a recent video with live fire - I will find the video and follow up here - another black powder user was unable to cause a chain fire from the cap end. The number of attempts was small so that certainly doesn't rule out that it can be caused from that end. However, on the other end, using proper setting of the ball (ie to ensure it is perfectly tight & shaves a ring of lead as you do) he showed several chain fires from that side. When following up with grease, no chain fires were experienced. Doesn't mean grease STOPS chain fire but shows pretty conclusively that chain fire commonly comes from the front and that grease absolutely does make it less likely. He did not, to my recollection, use wadding
Can you imagine a company on a skirmish Line in the woods like you were in this video? One volley Fire and a smoke screen would obscure firers and targets! No 🦟 mosquitos however! Lol
The one advantage I see with the lack of a recoil shield is if you needed to get one shot reloaded as quickly as possible: slip in a cartridge on the right side of the frame, ram it home at the bottom, slip the cap on from the left, and then move the primed chamber up to battery. With a recoil shield in place, you would have to turn the cylinder one full revolution after loading the cartridge to get the cap on, then another 3/4 turn to bring it to battery.
Great Video Mike. Excellent revolver. The Colt style is the best revolver style to copy in my opinion. I do hope you continue showing the loading process, to me enough is never enough when it comes to percussion revolvers. I still need to go out and shoot my Spiller & Burr.
Good to see you back at the range. I wondered what was going on that you had eased on the shooting videos. Good to hear you are feeling better and back to getting your hands dirty with the black stuff.
Have one. Haven't fired it yet. Used to have the colt version of this. One thing I don't like about the dance Brothers one is the handle is to short for my hands, which leads to it feeling to front heavy. I read somewhere they made the dance brothers handles smaller than the colt counterparts though because people in the south tended to have smaller hands than northerners. My colt 44 was perfect. Well balanced, if not a little back heavy. Just what you want
Welcome Back Mike! I wanna thank you for that review and testing you did with the Kaido conicals. I just purchased 100 of the 240 grain bullets. Look out Hogs here I come. lol
Your videos are A+ I just have to say in a shoot out between myself & You it would be a tie. Your a far better shot but you present one hell of a target . JUST HAVING FUN !!!
Watched all 71 of your videos. Thanks for your service to the shooting arts. I found Durofelt. They even sell sheep tallow. Of the many videos, I cannot remember, which one covered making wads? I need the recipe again and also a source for .44 and .36 punches. McMaster or something like that. I have ordered .69 and .75 arch punches from them.
Thanks for another in depth video Mike. Im glad youre back in it! And thanks for continuing to upload to TH-cam, im not a big fan of Full30. It never seems to work right for me...
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Don't let the haters bother you, safe habits equal a safe shooter.
I never get tired of watching you perform the loading process. That's part of the fun of black powder revolvers.
Welcome back!
Agreed and I would say its a big part of the fun!
It forces you to slow down and savor the experience ...
I like your comment RE: chain fire. I was told (many years ago) by an old timer, that chain fire initiated from the front and greased chambers were mandatory. Don't remember who, but one guy with a high speed camera, proved that chain fire can initiate from both the front and the back. In all cases where he succeeded in getting a chain fire, "loose fitting" allowed it. Loose ball, tight cap, chain fire from the front. Loose cap, tight ball, chain fire from the rear.
This didn't happen every time, but these were the causes in each instance where he succeeded in getting a chain fire. Greased chambers helped the loose ball, but it was Russian roulette with the loose caps.
Glad you're back. I've missed you.
It's nice to see Pietta having the Confederate guns out now like the Dance and the Griswold & Gunnison. I might have to get one of these when I hope to start competing in blackpowder revolver again just to have something that is a little different.
They are not realy very good copys which I can never understand or bye one fir that reason
I like seeing the loading process in action on different C&B revolver models. It may be the same but it's still fun to watch IMO.
My dad taught me to load five whether it was a cap & ball or his Ruger new model Blackhawk. Turns out the Ruger has a recall for transfer bar problems and accidental discharge. Just shows me dads good habits were right.
That’s a really cool revolver. .44 is my preferred size so to see that shape in .44 is awesome. I wish it had a hexagonal barrel that would be the prefect one!
I would like to thank you for the videos. The information in them has helped me with my pistols. I have a 1851 brass framed Navy in 44 with a 7.5 inch barrel and just recently bought a 1858 new model brass framed Army with a 12 inch barrel. I agree that the 1851 shoots way high but the Army is more accurate for me. Extremely glad you are back doing these videos, learn something every time i watch.
I'm glad you show the loading process.
Your channel is my first view of a cap & ball revolvers. I find the technology advancement over the years very interesting. From flintlocks on... Thanks!
thank you Duelist for all of the time and expertise you put in to all of your videos. I watch TH-cam every day, in fact way more often than network TV. You are one of my favorite youtube contributers.
Just got one from DGW. The Slix Shot cones for my Pietta 1851 Navy fit MY Dance and Brothers just fine.
Hi! So glad you're doing well! Very worried about you when you had broken your ribs and did in your shoulder. We've been praying for you. Wonderful and informative video as always. Enjoy your in-depth reviews of old tech pistols and rifles. Good that they have the all steel frame. Yeah better than the pseudo Griswald used in Hell on Wheels although the show is awesome. Pietta makes some great stuff! Thank you.
I have the Uberi 1862 police in .36 cal. I love it. It only holds 5 rounds. My absolute favorite C&B so far is the Spiller and Burr. It's the most accurate even out to 50yds. I've been looking for a Starr in SA. Dixie has had them on back order for a year so far. Love your range.
Good to have you back Mike! Enjoyed seeing this revolver.
Another great, informative video. I've learned a lot from your other cap and ball videos. Now I know how to take them apart and actually re-assemble. Thanks!
Glad to see you back in action. Keep up the great work. I like the mix of history lesson, loading, and shooting that you do in your videos.
Good to see you shooting again! 5 shots or 6--personal preference, if don't see why anyone should criticize that. Rock on!
Glad to see you back Mike! I've missed your shooting videos and hope your shoulder is healing properly.
That draw and fire in the beginning was really good. Remind me to never get in a shootout with you
Hi Mike, I was not aware that you were out of action. I am glad to see that you're up and moving around well. Please continue to stay healthy. I truly enjoy your videos and you're a truth wealth of information. I Also have the Pieta Dance and it's truly my favorite cap and ball revolver. Sincerest Regards Always, ~Keith
"You load five for safety. Why not six? Well load six if your gut says too."
JB Books The Shootist
Welcome back Mike,
Glad to hear you are doing better! As always nice video and as a bonus for me it was a Confederate revolver :) Cheers!
Mike. Welcome back, Sir.
It's good to see you back slinging lead again. It's been to long.
Awesome video and great to see you back in action Mike!
We need to see YOU back in action, Murphey. By the way, has anyone ever told you that you look like the Angry Video Game Nerd?
+Diktator Alexander I uploaded a new video today! But unfortunately at the moment I cannot upload videos at the frequency I used too. Thanks for being a fan!
Subbed!
murpheysmuskets You're welcome. I love your Musket videos where you dress up in uniform and shoot the rifle muskets.
Beautiful revolver.
My grandpa taught me to load five for carry and six when you're "Loaded for bear." And his grandpa taught him. His grandpa was a veteran of "The war of Northern aggression."
Did his not have safety pins?
As a historian I would like to make the point SC fired on a UnIon Fort in 1861…. The war was a rebellion started by Southern hostile action…. The overriding cause was slavery, despite the revisionist history of the lost cause. States Rights? Yes the right for states to continue own slaves and to be able to continue to add slave states to new territories… just saying. I would also note I was born a “Yankee” but I have adopted the South as my home for most of my adult life. 😅
@@josephhaack5711A Union *occupied* fort, by the perception of the Confederate government. 😉
I love your videos Mike! Nice fast draw by the way :) I was excited for this video and it was great as usual. I hope you feel 100% soon!
Really glad to see that you're doing better. Great video as usual!
Great to see you back in the saddle!
I do believe the lack of a recoil shield on Dance was due to materials shortage.
I found the balance on the Dance quite good, the Dance and Spiller and Burr are among my favorites!
Great videos! Love the details!
Subscribing now!
Thank you for another great video and I hope you heal up and get well soon.
Very true about the ball size being necessary for a good fit to seal the chamber. I have had a chain fire in an 1849 baby dragon replica. I was using .315" balls which were loose enough to push into the chambers with my fingers. I did grease the chambers liberally as I always have and both chambers on the left and right of the chamber in firing position fired. Thank goodness it did nothing to me at all except make my heart skip a beat when I realized three chambers were fired after shooting one shot. I did hear two very quick pops when I fired which made me wonder and that's when I noticed it. I never would have believed it would fire with greased chambers but it did. So, the moral of the story is NEVER use undersized bullets of any type in a cap and ball revolver even if it's greased!
Glad you’re doing better!👍👍😃🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
As always great video. Interestingly I just watched another youtube about the Pietta Dance, and it had a square trigger guard. He even commented that it was inaccurate and he was planning on replacing it.
Very good to see you back.
Very glad to see you back ....... and shooting black powder!
Thank You !!
The only revolvers I'd feel safe fully loading are: The Remington percussion with the easy-remove cylinder, & a modern revolver with safety systems that allow that.
Good to see your feeling better. Continue to take it easy. You know how joints are. We'll stick around.
Good to see you back! Follow your rehab program; you don't want anything to become chronic.
Nice video Mike. Glad you are back and better. Great glasses too!
Great to see you back Mike, no better physical therapy than shooting B.P. revolvers.
Good to have you back.I have a Pietta J H Dance. With that navy grip and 8in.barrel it points very nicely.It's only problem is it shoots 10in. Left at 15yds. Welcome back and take care of yourself. It was a long winter not watching your videos.
Good to see you back
Nice revolver. Decent shooting. Good comeback video. Thanks again Mike.
I love how every Confederate revolver has a cool backstory
really liked your peacemaker article. your comparison of the colt and a Rolex were quite fitting I believe. keep yours close bro and glad to see you shooting again
Dave K.
Nice to see you back,
I enjoy your videos very much. You often talk about chain fire mostly coming from the cap end, and assert that the grease doesn't prevent chain fire. In a recent video with live fire - I will find the video and follow up here - another black powder user was unable to cause a chain fire from the cap end. The number of attempts was small so that certainly doesn't rule out that it can be caused from that end. However, on the other end, using proper setting of the ball (ie to ensure it is perfectly tight & shaves a ring of lead as you do) he showed several chain fires from that side. When following up with grease, no chain fires were experienced. Doesn't mean grease STOPS chain fire but shows pretty conclusively that chain fire commonly comes from the front and that grease absolutely does make it less likely. He did not, to my recollection, use wadding
Can you imagine a company on a skirmish Line in the woods like you were in this video? One volley Fire and a smoke screen would obscure firers and targets! No 🦟 mosquitos however! Lol
Always enjoyed your articles and videos. Glad to see you're mending well.
Good to see you back at the DEN. Hope the shoulder continues to improve.
Glad to see you back in to action and throwing some lead mate!
Keep it up- I’m from Columbia, TX and gun safety is fine 5/6 works for me.
Good to see you back in action Mike - your videos are always informative and entertaining.
Thanks for the video. And that’s a very cool weapon.
Happy to see you back. Great videos. Great articles.
The one advantage I see with the lack of a recoil shield is if you needed to get one shot reloaded as quickly as possible: slip in a cartridge on the right side of the frame, ram it home at the bottom, slip the cap on from the left, and then move the primed chamber up to battery. With a recoil shield in place, you would have to turn the cylinder one full revolution after loading the cartridge to get the cap on, then another 3/4 turn to bring it to battery.
Welcome back Mike! Very happy to see you sir.
'Got em!.' Nice shootin' tex. FoD Blitz!
Great to have you back! Take care!
Nice to have you back MB!
Glad to see your on the mend enough to shoot again. Looking forward to more videos.
So glad you're healed and back bro.
Great Video Mike. Excellent revolver. The Colt style is the best revolver style to copy in my opinion. I do hope you continue showing the loading process, to me enough is never enough when it comes to percussion revolvers. I still need to go out and shoot my Spiller & Burr.
Mike it's great to see you back!
Nice to have you back I enjoy your videos!
I find it very interesting that a lot of these manufacturers all used cotton mill factories to re-tool for their pistols!
Nice to have you back.
Very interesting videos. Thanks duelist!
Miss you're content. Thanks for the new upload! Love it
Good to see you back at it Mike!
I just saw this video pop up. Glad to see you've healed up, Mike.
Be well, sir.
Good to see you back!
glad you are back
Good to see you back at the range. I wondered what was going on that you had eased on the shooting videos. Good to hear you are feeling better and back to getting your hands dirty with the black stuff.
Looks like your aim is still on. Thanks for the video. Can almost smell the blackpowder
Great video.
Greetings from Ireland. Welcome back.
Great video as always Mike. Hope your shoulder is better and pain free.
Have one. Haven't fired it yet. Used to have the colt version of this. One thing I don't like about the dance Brothers one is the handle is to short for my hands, which leads to it feeling to front heavy. I read somewhere they made the dance brothers handles smaller than the colt counterparts though because people in the south tended to have smaller hands than northerners. My colt 44 was perfect. Well balanced, if not a little back heavy. Just what you want
mike it's good to see you and evil Roy back . and I bet he's glad not to shot in the gonads ..lol. looking forward to your next videos .
I love your video formats. I find them professional. Haters will always hate, keep up the good work. :)
Nice review, an interesting cap and ball
that quick draw at the beginning
Finally, your back!!! Hope you're fully recovered soon!!!!
Welcome Back Mike! I wanna thank you for that review and testing you did with the Kaido conicals. I just purchased 100 of the 240 grain bullets. Look out Hogs here I come. lol
Great video and welcome back...
Great video, welcome back.
Here's another LUV BOMB from one more of Fate of Destenee's T-REX Army great vid.
Great to see you back :)
Your videos are A+ I just have to say in a shoot out between myself & You it would be a tie. Your a far better shot but you present one hell of a target . JUST HAVING FUN !!!
Welcome back, Mike!
Watched all 71 of your videos. Thanks for your service to the shooting arts. I found Durofelt. They even sell sheep tallow. Of the many videos, I cannot remember, which one covered making wads? I need the recipe again and also a source for .44 and .36 punches. McMaster or something like that. I have ordered .69 and .75 arch punches from them.
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I think you did just fine. and can feel for you on the shoulder issue. broke both of mine. and my Back. But still Going. Joe
Great video...... Welcome back.
welcome back sir. i hope you are feeling well and are having a good Memorial Day weekend
Nice to see you shooting again Mike! To celebrate Memorial day I just had to go out and shoot my 50 caliber Hawken.
Thank you, I be truly enjoyed watching you burn black Powder. Thank you
Thanks for another in depth video Mike. Im glad youre back in it!
And thanks for continuing to upload to TH-cam, im not a big fan of Full30. It never seems to work right for me...