The Newshour Debate: The 'Saffron Terror' fight (Full Debate)

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  • @joserizal5723
    @joserizal5723 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Qur’an 8:59 “The disbelievers (hindu) should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah’s enemy.”

  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    "..fascist organisations are..a fascist ideology?"
    - You have vindicated your use of ANY of the radical adjectives you so carelessly append behind the leading opposition of the country.

  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is flagging these? Is this automated now? I posted a comment and then within seconds it was spammed (i.e. 17 seconds)!! How could it be?

  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Are you suggesting that India is the rightful property of Hindus?" - nope. By "rightfully ours" I meant the right to live life as we want it within the bounds of our current constitution. Don't put words in my mouth that is a cheap tactic.

  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm talking of UPA's practice of fostering, politicizing & condoning violence, arising out of religious hatred. I'm worried about UPA's age-old practice of appeasing minorities even at the expense of neutral analysis of any serious social matter.
    What culture (Sharia?) are you pointing to? Stoning adulterers to death? Executing gays?
    GO TO PAKISTAN, INDONESIA, SAUDI ARABIA, IRAQ if you want to see "minorities being treated in an inhumane way"...till then keep your inane blathering to yourself!

  • @dpremi1126
    @dpremi1126 11 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    "India can only progress through secularism." as well as right to basic freedom - I agree and the biggest threat to secularism and freedom that comes with it, in, not just India, but the whole world, is ISLAM. Secularism means the right to condemn superstitious beliefs and criticise any religion without fear of religious retaliation, but current "Organization of Islamic Cooperation" is actively pursuing an agenda to ban FREE-SPEECH (in the name of what they arbitrarily define as "HATE-SPEECH").

  • @mikaelt8774
    @mikaelt8774 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your comments have been flagged.

  • @protostele
    @protostele 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every religion has got some elements who are extremists...but DECIDING FACTOR IS THE QUANTITY AND SUPPORT FROM THEIR COMMUNITY....HINDU NEVER SUPPORTED ...DO NOT SUPPORT AND WILL NOT SUPPORT...TERRORISM....BUT HAVING WRITTEN THAT VIOLENT INTERPRETATION OF ISLAM BY TERRORIST IS STILL THE MAJOR AND ONLY THREAT TO HUMAN RACE

  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unfortunately, even in Hindu majority India, various other forms of jihad - due to Muslims’ minority status -- are now under way. Non-Muslims, and in particular Hindus are being marginalized - by implementing reservation quota for Indian Muslims and by increasing subsidy, from taxpayers money, to ONLY Indian Muslim populations.

  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I am condemning the politicisation of religion." - No I don't think that is your main point of objection, you're essentially propagating unfounded and disproved allegations and maligning Modi so dogmatically, despite a clean chit from a SUPREME COURT appointed investigative team which conducted literally more than a thousand interrogations, because you precisely don't like the rise of any other religion than Islam that is the problem DISHONESTY.

  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hindutva is fascist? Who told you that?

  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have never heard of a fascist Hindu ideology! You're abusing the word "fascist". ISLAM is fascist. I wish we were fascistic against JIHADISTS but alas we aren't. We Indians want a nation where non-muslims, homosexuals can feel secure and not constantly threatened by the rise of Islamic hatred (e.g. GODHRA train massacre, Mumbai bombings, killings of Hindus and Christians in Kashmir, etc).
    Is that too much to ask? Nope. You may distort the demand as much as you want. That facts won't change!

  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    India is, at least in some aspects, more democratic. I think that's the stepping stone for a viable civilization.
    About caste: 1. Social stratification exists in every culture, be it occidental or oriental. Some call by a different name that's all.
    2. The casteism that you're belabouring on have very little to do with a person's family background and more to do with his occupation. Read what Swami Vivekananda (

  • @protostele
    @protostele 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    INDIAN STAND HAS BEEN WEAKENED BY SHINDES STATEMENT....NOW LET.JUD ARE HAPPY

  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let me break it down further, I am NOT trying to preclude the possibility that nonislamic sources might give, and have indeed given, rise to violence or communalism in India. But *please* put it in right perspective that's all.
    Why associate a colour of significance to Hindus or imply that "Hinduism" has got something to do with it? And also juxtapose the number of terrorist attacks carried out GLOBALLY by Muslims and Hindus for religious reasons (i.e. after uttering scriptural incantations).

  • @protostele
    @protostele 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    haa.hha.. DUDE I AM NOT A FOLLOWER OF ISLAM ...I AM ALSO SAYING THE SAME THING IN A DIFFERENT MANNER..THE REAL PROBLEM OF ISLAM IS ITS INTERPRETATION....EVERYONE INTERPRETS IT IN THE SENSE OF HATRED AND VIOLENCE ...THIS THING HAS MADE ISLAM REALLY A PROBLEM ....
    RELATED VIEW HAS BEEN WRITTEN IN THE ABOVE COMMENTS

  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't agree. With due respect, you don't know a thing about the so-called "saffron terror" and its origin. If you had, you would know that reprisal attacks are not exactly "terrorism". Yes, there perhaps is a thing called "hindu communalism" but it is outmatched, outweighed by Islam's terroristic aspects. read Quran Chapter 8 and 9. READ MAN, just edify yourself.
    No one seriously can compare the threat that Islam poses to freedom with the threat that Hinduism poses to freedom.

  • @ekthaKC
    @ekthaKC 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    ARNAB ASKS DIRECT QUESTIONS!!!
    OUR POLITICIANS ARE NOT USED TO IT!! LOL!!
    THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GIVE A SIMPLE ANSWER TO A SIMPLE QUESTION!!!
    BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE CAUGHT ON NEWS!!
    HAHAHAHAH!!

  • @protostele
    @protostele 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    bhai,every disbeliever is hindu as per you.what about budhist..jain..sikh..christian..shinto...jews.?
    there is one basic thing about interpretation....that it must lead to peace..UR interpretation about 8:59 is far away from peace...
    for all the people for whom the word terrorist is used in this world....atleast 90% are believers of islam though islam has nothing to do with terrorism
    THIS IS BCOZ PEOPLE LIKE U CANT EVEN INTERPRET QURAN IN SENSE OF PEACE..and thats a sour...bitter FACT ...

  • @baristha
    @baristha 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The source for the above is:
    newsanalysisindia. com/ supremcourt.htm
    for the sake of brevity I couldn't post the whole thing so here it is.