Thank you sir ! your dedication towards old Norse teachings is outstanding ! You have given us knowledge and inspiration towards a subject that most people simply just do not understand. But you sir, you understand and I hope you never stop teaching us about everything you’ve learned. Thank you for your teachings !
Definitely true about the note on reading vs. translating! I was in a saga reading class in undergrad where we were expected to just write in unfamiliar words in the margins. At first the margins were crammed, but by the end of the semester we only had a few per page, and could read it on the fly in class. It's much more fun and quicker that way, although it takes some work to get there!
Speaking of umlauts, I have used a few bizarre ones to retcon modern sounds into Proto-Indo-European: 1. A vowel and an s after a stop mutate it into the corresponding fricative 2. Aspirated stops become aspirated fricatives 3. A sequence of a or e with o in consecutive syllables or across a paradigm can change e to ø, a to å or o to ø or å depending on its order 4. Isolated diphthongs in words with no other long vowel fuse ae (from ai) to æ, ao (from au) to å, eo and oe (from eu and oi) to ø and ui and iu to y (ei has shifted to ē and ou to ō)
Where I'm from, the Black Country in England, we say _tek /tɛk/_ and _teks /tɛks/_ for _take_ and _takes._ Maybe this is a remnant of the Old Norse forms? But we also say _mek /mɛk/_ and _meks /mɛks/_ for _make_ and _makes._ I think it might just be that the /eɪ/ became /ɛ/ because we also say _et /ɛʔ/_ instead of _ate /eɪt/,_ but then _bake_ is /bajk/. The instances of the sound /ɛ/ instead of /eɪ/ are the only 3 instances it occurs in my own speech.
Really appreciate these videos! I've started a mini-series of sorts on my channel wherein I discuss my own take on random stanzas from the Hávamál, and your Wanderer's Hávamál ís what I use to read from. Keep these coming, sir!
Dutch in the class 5 verb “geven”, has singular past “gaf” (short) vs plural past “gaven” (long), preserving (contrary to modern standard German e.g.) the old distinction. The participle is “gegeven”, same vowel as the present, but the ge- prefix and -en ending clearly mark it.
So, if 'walk' used to be 'ganga' (modern Swedish rare form 'gånga'), where does 'gå' (walk/go) come from? In modern Swedish få-får-fick(/fingo)-fått compares to gå-går-gick(/gingo)-gått. 'Gånga' is however weak, gånga-gångar-gångade-gångat.
This entire course is a trip down memory lane for all speakers of Scandinavian languages. Quite a lot have been lost over the centuries, but many features are still recognisable. It's enlightening to rediscover their origins. The plural forms of the verbs disappeared relatively recently. They initially fell out of use in spoken central Swedish, a practice spreading throughout the country when the "Now-Swedish" movement made Stockholm Swedish the only accepted form of the language. Plurals were retained in writing until the post war era. Newspapers decided to stop using them in 1945, schools stopped teaching them during the 50's. They continued to be used in legal writing up until 1967.
I dont know if its possible but is there a way to write warrior and honor in runic old Norse? Or is it just one symbol? I want to be sure I get the right stuff
This is unrelated but is there any evidence what so ever that vikings traveled to New Zealand? I can't find anything yet there seems to be a large group of people that genuinely believe viking settlers influenced Maori culture...
Just astounds me every time how modern Dutch and Old Norse can be so similar.
Ek gef. Ik geef.
Ek gaf. Ik gaf.
Afrikaans is also quite similar
Ek gef. Ek gee
Ek gaf. Ek het gegee
That shirt! The fact that the pattern lines up on all the stitching is incredible. Where’d ya get it?
Want to thank you for the incredible work you have done and still do on Old Norse. Could not have done it without you.
Thank you sir ! your dedication towards old Norse teachings is outstanding ! You have given us knowledge and inspiration towards a subject that most people simply just do not understand. But you sir, you understand and I hope you never stop teaching us about everything you’ve learned. Thank you for your teachings !
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I would MUCH RATHER be in your class, the background and your unexpected guest make it all, thanks Doc for all you do for our extended knowledge.
Truly loving this series!!
Definitely true about the note on reading vs. translating! I was in a saga reading class in undergrad where we were expected to just write in unfamiliar words in the margins. At first the margins were crammed, but by the end of the semester we only had a few per page, and could read it on the fly in class. It's much more fun and quicker that way, although it takes some work to get there!
Speaking of umlauts, I have used a few bizarre ones to retcon modern sounds into Proto-Indo-European:
1. A vowel and an s after a stop mutate it into the corresponding fricative
2. Aspirated stops become aspirated fricatives
3. A sequence of a or e with o in consecutive syllables or across a paradigm can change e to ø, a to å or o to ø or å depending on its order
4. Isolated diphthongs in words with no other long vowel fuse ae (from ai) to æ, ao (from au) to å, eo and oe (from eu and oi) to ø and ui and iu to y (ei has shifted to ē and ou to ō)
Where I'm from, the Black Country in England, we say _tek /tɛk/_ and _teks /tɛks/_ for _take_ and _takes._ Maybe this is a remnant of the Old Norse forms? But we also say _mek /mɛk/_ and _meks /mɛks/_ for _make_ and _makes._ I think it might just be that the /eɪ/ became /ɛ/ because we also say _et /ɛʔ/_ instead of _ate /eɪt/,_ but then _bake_ is /bajk/. The instances of the sound /ɛ/ instead of /eɪ/ are the only 3 instances it occurs in my own speech.
Really appreciate these videos! I've started a mini-series of sorts on my channel wherein I discuss my own take on random stanzas from the Hávamál, and your Wanderer's Hávamál ís what I use to read from. Keep these coming, sir!
Wow where did you and that awesome beautiful scenery come from I do not know but I declare myself your student 🦋 thank you for your teaching style
Dutch in the class 5 verb “geven”, has singular past “gaf” (short) vs plural past “gaven” (long), preserving (contrary to modern standard German e.g.) the old distinction. The participle is “gegeven”, same vowel as the present, but the ge- prefix and -en ending clearly mark it.
This class is so fun and even tho it's a lil crash course I feel like I learned a lot
Hello all
thankyou teach!
Great video. You should add some reading material to each video.
Is English "bring - brought" related to class 7? At least it's a similar change with a random consonant dropped in.
Is there perfect tense in Norse? For example, how would you say "you have travelled?"
Language archaeology- can my pandemic brain step up to this plate? I hope so!
So, if 'walk' used to be 'ganga' (modern Swedish rare form 'gånga'), where does 'gå' (walk/go) come from? In modern Swedish få-får-fick(/fingo)-fått compares to gå-går-gick(/gingo)-gått. 'Gånga' is however weak, gånga-gångar-gångade-gångat.
Now I understand were the old verb form "fingo" in Swedish comes from. Sounds close to "fengu".
This entire course is a trip down memory lane for all speakers of Scandinavian languages. Quite a lot have been lost over the centuries, but many features are still recognisable. It's enlightening to rediscover their origins.
The plural forms of the verbs disappeared relatively recently. They initially fell out of use in spoken central Swedish, a practice spreading throughout the country when the "Now-Swedish" movement made Stockholm Swedish the only accepted form of the language. Plurals were retained in writing until the post war era. Newspapers decided to stop using them in 1945, schools stopped teaching them during the 50's. They continued to be used in legal writing up until 1967.
"Fara" = German "fahren"?
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I dont know if its possible but is there a way to write warrior and honor in runic old Norse? Or is it just one symbol? I want to be sure I get the right stuff
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Why is it "their bera" but "théir báru"? Their -> Théir?
I think that's just a typo
This is unrelated but is there any evidence what so ever that vikings traveled to New Zealand? I can't find anything yet there seems to be a large group of people that genuinely believe viking settlers influenced Maori culture...
Ek tók kona hans :)