Where EXACTLY Should You Put Your Focal Point?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- A common theme of questions I see in my inbox are from people asking about focus and specifically focal points. This seems to be an area of confusion for a lot of people! So in this video we're taking a practical approach to where you should be placing your focus point when shooting to ensure tack sharp images every time.
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I just did a try on my daughter and I could see every single eyes lash when zooming in! I thank you a million, your channel is being an inspiration for me!! So glad I found you!
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Thank you, Katelyn! Another good educative video.
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Wow, excellent. Thanks for the advice on shooting with the R6 in busy events!
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Genius think of a piece of paper!! 😊 found you and now you're the only one I watch, no need to watch so many others, your helpful hints to the point!! The goal point!🌈💕💝🌈💓💖
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I’m glad I found this page I appreciate the all the info your giving out
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The group photo tip is definitely what I needed!
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truly great info, you packed sooooooo much in one video, I liked it very much!!!
Leaning for 40 years thanks keep up the great videos
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Awesome video, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
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love the way you present your content!
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I'm a new subscriber and I absolutely love the way you explain things. Thank you so much.
Katelyn.......I agree 100% the Most important person in the image......Primary person's EYE and One Focus Red block is best!!!!! Great Lesson Kate about those on the edge of a photo.......OMG using my Sigma 24-70mm 2.8 and its 15 people in the image........
Thank you! This was very helpful! ❤️
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These videos are always so helpful. I'm doing weddings now. Those pointers about focusing on eyelashes are just additional perks
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This was great vary helpful indeed thanks for sharing.
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This was so informative. Thank you.
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I listened to a Jared Polin podcast the other day (Episode 005). Vanessa Joy was his guest while Stephen was out of town. Vanessa name-dropped you multiple times. I wondered how you would get 14 minutes out of a subject where I would have said "place your focus point on your main subject's nearest eye" but you did and it was interesting throughout. Great job!
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Thank you so much for these great videos!
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These are good tips. Thank you.
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Thank you Katelyn. Your videos are so informative and useful!
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This is great, will share with our group. What I had to start doing was go to a f/4 with flowers, macro. etc.
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That was a great video. Thanks.
Waiting for your video for settings on your R6 :) .Support from 🇩🇴
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Dear Katelyn. Thanks for another great video! I shot my first wedding last week and watching your videos over the past months has been an invaluable resource!!! The amount of PRACTICAL knowledge and experience and tips you share is amazing and so extremely helpful !!! Many thanks !
P.S.: With respect to eye detection jumping to a random face in a group... I found out that you can avoid it by setting "Initial Servo AF pt for (face tracking)", which is the first item on menu page AF5, to "Initial AF pt set for (face tracking)". This way you get a "focusing box" even in eye AF that you can position over the face you want to track and when you half press the shutter button, eye AF will stick to the person that had initially the box over them. And of course you can reposition the box with touch and drag just like a normal focusing point.
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I wish the R8 had this.. I have the same frustration/control issue... you have to put it on a specific focusing scenario or 'case', that's the best it can do.
Nice video! I totally agree 13:00
Good to hear! Thanks for watching!!
I love that the Canon EOS R3 lets that point auto track (you can turn tracking on/off), because I like to choose my point rather than have the camera grab "something" for me.
The tracking of the R3 is great, because I can *choose* the eye, and it stays locked on the whole time I'm holding down the AF-on button.
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Great video
I was practicing a boudoir shoot with a friend of mine this summer. I had her doing a pose where she was on all fours, head down, back arched, sultry expression, angled the mirror reflection perfectly, etc. and I had my focal point set to between her eyes on the middle of the touch screen. I took the shot and I excitedly told her something like "yes! this is fire! I'll take a few more but I doubt the rest will be as good as this!" and showed her the shot and she was giddy too. Fast forward to when I started editing and finally saw them all on the computer - her face was blurry because I'd accidentally moved my camera ever so slightly just before taking the shot but her lower back/bottom was tack sharp (but the other 4-5, not-quite-as-good shots were all fine). The focal point was actually a foot and a half behind where I intended and at f/1.8 that makes a huge difference. I was so mad at myself for missing that attention to detail but I only had to learn that lesson once.
Yes. The longer I shoot mirrorless with EYE AF the sooner I realize that I don’t need that feature. Because now I’m still using ONE SHOT with 1 focal point and recompose. In my case this is for weddings. For moving subjects especially for sports this will be perfect.
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My D750 has a group mode, where it looks at the points around the one selected, and chooses the one that's closest to the camera. It works well for live shows with fast moving subjects against a high contrast background that might distract the autofocus. It would not work well for a subject with things in front of their face like leaves or grass.
Your content is very easy to watch & understand, and I love your approach to auto / eye tracking vs single point - makes perfect sense! The one thing my system (Nikon) is missing for me is the ability to assign all the different AF modes to more than one button, for instant switching (although, the Z9 can do this, I just don't have one yet). The only one I can dedicate a different button to is Subject (3D) Tracking, which I use a ton, but I'd love a single-click action for Single Point as well.
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I just discovered this today, when my camera wasn't focusing on a person in the middle but on a closer tree on the side. So I changed it to one middle point and after it focused I composed and moved as necessary. Trying out my nifty fifty today.
--->Kaitlyn
Selecting a camera is a straight forward process. What is my budget? What am I photographing? What features in a camera do I need to accomplish this task? What am I going to do with the images I create? I agree with your assessment. The upgrades to the R6 mkII are not directed to wedding photography. They expand the capabilities for sports and wildlife photography.
Thanks for sharing Paul!
So I learned that the groom is part of the background composition… but those eye lashes shall be damn sharp 😂 it’s kind of funny thinking about that
Thanks Katelyn Bye!
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setting up custom buttons with back button focus made my r6m2 an absolute beast.
great video. what aperture do you use in close ups to get the bride and groom sharp?
I just re-watched the video you refer to in this one and re-watched this one and I couldn't for the life of me understand why I couldn't get the whole touch & drag thing and why it wasn't working for me. After watching the other video again for the 3rd time I then realised you look through the viewfinder with your right eye whereas I've been using my left eye hence why my big fat nose kept getting in the way of my finger trying to do touch & drag. I now want to train myself to use my right eye and have adjusted my diopter accordingly. thank you for these very informative videos 🙂
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@@KatelynJames I watch your weekly TH-cam episode on a Friday morning here in Australia 🇦🇺 with my first cup of coffee ☕️ when they've all left for work. Best 20ish minutes of the day!!
It’s been a while yet I remember reading your reply Robi. While I’m editing there are only two people that I listen to and kind of watch out of the corner of my eye 😊 Anyhow I’m editing and listening and wanted to circle back and see how that has been working for you with your left eye?
If it hasn’t been working you can simply pick up a longer eye cup. They make them using the same type of material so they have the look and feel of the OE version (Only like $20) just longer. That extra room allows you to shoot with your right eye without smashing your nose against the screen. Knowing which eye is your dominant eye can be super important as it’s literally ‘How’ you see the world. Easy Google to find how to hold your hands up in front of you to find out. 😊
Super inform
I too found that facial tracking that face tracking takes control away from me. Most of the time, I use it by moving my single-focus point to the face I want to focus on, then I enable the face tracking with that same back-button you do, then I can move the frame around, portrait, landscape, etc, and the point stays in that spot. That is really handy
@katelyn James thank you for the video. I wanted to add my experience on going mirrorless and focal points. I discovered after testing my new R5 and lenses with a 90° target with ruler, that different lenses reacted differently with percentages of what landed in front and behind of the actual focal point. Example (at 10ft), my Canon 70-200 mkIII had a 60/40% of what landed front/back in focus. My Sigma 24-70 Art lands15-85% front to back. Firmware updates didn't change anything. I would suggest its a good idea to test equipment to know how each one differs.
on professional cameras there's a focus fine tune setting for different lenses
What are you doing to test your lenses on? I know there are the AF charts but I’ve always in envisioned those to be for smaller scale AF tuning.
@@photouniversum1209 DSLR has a fine tune focus adjustment for lenses due to their prism system. Mirrorless (or most at the time of writing this) does not have that function. Been down this road with others trying to call me out. Another option, Sigma Art lenses can be docked to a PC and adjusted via firmware, but only works on prism cameras.
@@nathanhoefert I DIY'd my target. You can glue a yard stick to a 90° contractors square and mount it to another 90° square with a target glued to it. Any basic target you can make in Photoshop or free download will work. the important part is the measuring stick. Just make sure everything is level in relation to target and camera. In the USA, Harbor Freight is a cheap place to get tools.
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Hi, your video is fantastic. I bought a Nikon Z7ii and do not know how to use it yet. Mirrorless is a real challenge. I realize you are using Canon mirrorless, but it would be great if you could demonstrate on Nikon. Thanks!
I wish I could, but I know nothing about Nikon
Katelyn can you post a video or explain here how you switch BACK to single point, after you switch to eye tracking using that button like you explained here? Do you set another button to go right back to single point?
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Great video and an awesome explanation. If you are shooting with that curve you are talking about, what do you focus on? the center or sides? I got a bit confused sorry
You want your group in a straight line, no curving at the edges, and I believe you'd focus on whoever is closest to the camera. She was saying if people make even a slight curve, focus is harder and the people in the middle might be softer. So to combat this, tell people to line up their heels to each other, then you can adjust as needed. You can also tell people to stand up straight and to line their heads up to one another. For some reason people naturally love to curl at the end and I don't know why! Be in charge and tell them to be in a straight line. Be the professional!
Do you recommend using one shot or continuous?
And 1-point AF OR spot af?
Thanks for the helpful info! I enjoy your videos. I would just like to know one more thing...where did you get your...dress from? I love the color, it looks great with your hair color, and looks oh so comfy, too! 😉
Amazon! I'll try to find a link!
@@KatelynJames awesome! I appreciate that! 💜
Do you have more info on the r6 mk ii ?
Can you tell you us about your customize buttons on your R6 ?
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When you have a large group (ex: extended family shot at a wedding), do you still use the smallest focus point? How do you make sure they're all in focus?
I do! I make sure they are in a straight line and focus on someone in the front center.
Great advice we shouldn't trust or camera for everything!
How do feel about focus recompose ?
I use a combo of the joystick and eye tracking. If it is crowed I’ll use the stick to get me to the person I want and it will stick to that person for me.
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Can you make a video about how you handle white balance in real time of wedding?
yay im first ! I got r6 because of your vids,, which im glad.. ty for inspiring us all
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Thanks for this, very interesting. One thing though... I was under the impression (from every DoF calculator ever) that the fall off from the focal point is the same forward as it is rearward. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding. Any thoughts?
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Following!! I was taught the same thing about the focal plane over and over, surprised me when i watched this video. Still any thoughts?
I always thought that at a small enough aperture, say f/8, that there was sufficient focus in front of the subject/focus point. So, say using a 35mm at f/8 with the group (3 rows) about 10 feet away, the focal plane would be almost 3 ft. in front of the focus point to about 6 feet beyond the focus point - so best to focus on someone in the middle row. Is that not the case in your experience?
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@@KatelynJames I enjoy your videos! I was hoping that you could add some perspective here. Is the "theory" of focal plane not your experience in practice, or are you usually shooting at a wider aperture where this matters less?
Gosh I am still struggling with this. I have always used my focus as you do, on the smallest point option and on the eyelashes/eyes for portraits, follow all the tips, and still only get 1 in 10 shots sharp. I have a 5D Mk IV and 24-105mm and 50mm 1.8 and 50mm 1.2. Happens regardless of the lens I'm using. I've lost all my confidence in shooting after 15 years :(
I think this depends on your selected focus point and the compatibility of the lens. In the manual, only the middle section of focus points are cross type with the 24-105. And the focus points with the 50 1.8/1.2 is the middle section with the center 5 being dual cross. The others are not reliable. I hope this helps.
Get an R5/6 your problem will be solved
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@@guogegreat If a specific camera will solve your problems, that alone speaks volumes on your qualifications as a professional photographer.
Do you shoot a wedding in manual or Aperture Priority?
Manual
Always put my focal point where I'm trying to frame them. So if I have the people on the right side of the frame I'll put my focal point over there and vice versa and of there in the middle I'll just put in the middle
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Do you prefer back button or front to take photos?
I've gone back & forth on this since moving to mirrorless, and weighed the pro's & con's of each approach. Currently using shutter release focus only and seeing advantages (at least for how I shoot / focus). I'm acquiring focus faster by leaving my thumb out of the process. This may change when I get the Z9 for one technical it offers (green focus confirmation when in Continuous AF). Many wildlife / action shooters still prefer BBAF, but from what I hear, mostly due to muscle memory from their DSLR days.
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Wouldn't it be an option to deepen the DOF by using a smaller aperture?
You're asking a photographic based question to people that haves camera designed to do all their thinking for them. But you are correct.
how do you focus like this on moving subjects?
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I use a single focal point but I'm struggling with focusing and recomposing. I switched to single focal point after watching your other video but now my focus and recompose is not working so I'm not sure what changed or what I'm doing wrong.
I have the same problem. Would love to have an answer on this, focus and recomposing.
I was under the impression the your DOf was approx 1?3 in front of the focal point and about 2/3 behind. Not from the focal point and going back. What am I missing? Please help, explain please.
I need to make a video about this!
I struggle with my focal point with my Nikon D3300 it only gives me 10 focal point options and when I want to move one of the to the eye it messes up my whole composition I never know what to do so I focus on something else close to the eye:/
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So surrounding area focus no?
That’s not technically correct about groups of people and the focal point. When you go for the smaller apertures then the camera will add 1/3 in front of the focal point and 2/3 behind. So for a pic with 4 rows of people you would focus on someone in the second row and providing you have the right f number it would get everyone. Not that I’m telling an amazing photographer how to focus or anything 😂 it just means you could have a slightly wider aperture than if you were going for a front row focus situation
I say its important to know just were your specific setup lands by testing testing testing first. I have tested several lenses and found each one can be different on the percentage of front to back distances on my mirrorless. Example, my Canon 24/70 at 10' lands approx 60% behind where as my Sigma lands approx 85% back. In close up or tight areas, that can make a difference.
That’s accurate in terms of how depth of field works. Facts.
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Thankyou Smokeysoul1. This is a fundamental concept. It applies no matter the f-stop. Using the terminology in this video, focus actually "falls off" BOTH to the back, AND to the front, of the focal plane. The important thing is to know approximately how much depth of field you have in any given situation, which varies based on the f-stop and the distance to subject. Select a plane of focus, or center of focus, and an f-stop, that ensures the entire group, front to back, will be acceptably sharp. There is a larger depth of field available to you when you are further from you subject. Also, there is a larger depth of field available to you when you use a smaller aperature. Sometimes you want or need a large depth of field. Sometimes you want or need a small depth of field. This choice is part of the art of photography.
Perfect, thank you.
Good God, it makes one wonder WTF all the highly skilled photographers did for decade upon decade without the aid of face focus/track and all the other "no-brains required" technology.
I'm sorry, I generally liked your video, BUT your hand movements made it impossible to watch all the way through.
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Hii Katy , I guess I need your help 🥺🤍
I have a photography business
Few days ago I the hard drive that I use to save my data has stopped suddenly & I lost them all , I’m doing my best to recover the data
I contacted my clients ( 99% of them are brides ) to tell them the problem in the nicest way
I’ve been off line on my Instagram profile since the problem happened because I ( & the team members are so sad , so worried what would happen if we couldn’t get the files back so surely we are not in the mood of posting)
The thing that I’m confused about is can I go back to my Instagram account or not ? Considering the clients feelings 🥺
Because I wanna go back to posting, sharing things for the brides I’m shooting these days & specially the coming weekend I’m gonna be working in another city ( a bigger one) & I’d like to share few things from 🥺
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