I’ve been doing lateral raises lying on my side for the last year. I leaned that from Doug Brignole. I used to do 30+ sets a week of standing lateral raises because I have such long arms and small middle delts. I never got sore or got any growth. One year of doing them on my side with the tension in the stretched position (and only 3-6 sets per week), and my middle delts are the biggest they have ever been by far. They look way better at 41 years old and 205 pounds than when I was 24 and 225.
I thought I read that the studies showing the superiority of lengthened partials had the subjects using a heavier weight when compared to those doing full ROM. If that's correct, it would suggest that the amount of tension, even with reduced range of motion, is the more important component. Is my memory failing me? Nonetheless, I have trouble believing that there isn't a fundamental benefit to full ROM, the most basic being the ability to safely apply high forces safely through full ROM. The shortened position is generally the "safer" portion of a lift, but I wonder if a person who biases his training to the lengthened position to an extreme degree might not be increasing injury risk is the shorter positions.
I really wonder how the combination of exercises with the main part being not the stretched position in combination with stretched isometrics would play out.
I ve satrted doing the standing cable leg extensions, they are awesome. Great quad and hipflexors activación, it feels way better than normal seated variation, You feel your whole quads from the knee to the hips. Also, when using cables you can do both functions of the quad, it's like kicking a ball.
28:15 on gym80 legextensions you probably get the best stretch with a very stable foundation. If you put the sit back and the footpad max back and then you have to put something behind your back.
Great podcast mate, I thought you or Eric might know the answer to this- why is it that during isolation exercises you can get a proper “burn” and pump. But doesn’t seem to happen on compound exercises. For example, your triceps on a tricep push down compared to say a bench press? Thanks man.
Thanks dude, so that's probably because you're isolating the muscle and so it's easier for the pump/burn to happen in an isolated region. Having said that I get a crazy pump/burn from a leg press in my quads, so I don't think it's a black and white think at all. - Steve
I’m actually doing a group project for an entrepreneurship class and we’re using my idea for a device that gives more tension in the stretched position. I may use this podcast for my “market research” segment of my presentation if that’s okay.
Its so funny that the recent strech hype is kind of rehabilitating all the memes of before like alphadestinys rack pull above the knee, croc rows or branch warrens and ronnies training styles...they all stretched muscles to the max under heavy loads
The whole over head cable tricep extensions makes sense to me...! I've supersetted them with kickbacks for years and just a few sets gives a great pump and is enough for growth on top of all the pressing.If I do more, my tris dont usually recover on time. And also I'm considering changing gyms just for this exercise, the gym I frequent have older and un-maintained cable stations with weird frictions sometimes, really throws things off. Thanks for the great content Steve.
I wish we could see Eric versus Steve head to head. They both look pretty close to each other in terms of size and muscularity. I've always wanted to see some of the TH-cam guys go head to like Layne Norton versus the Barbell Medicine guys in a powerlifting competition against each other. Both Jordan Feigenbaum and Austin Baraki have lifts that could compete against Layne Norton in powerlifting at close to the same weight. That would be fun.
Please get Andrew Vigotsky and Chris Beardsley on stretch mediated hypertrophy
We wanted to bring Chris on years ago, but for whatever reason he seems to not like us.
- Pascal
@@ReviveStronger Damn :(, could you get Tom Purvis on with Dr. Mike or Paul Carter??? That would be killer‼️
@@juansamudio1171 Most of us would rather eject testosterone into our eardrums than listen to Paul Carter
@@eugenelevin9809 I would love to hear Paul Carter with Tom Purvis ;)
I’ve been doing lateral raises lying on my side for the last year. I leaned that from Doug Brignole. I used to do 30+ sets a week of standing lateral raises because I have such long arms and small middle delts. I never got sore or got any growth.
One year of doing them on my side with the tension in the stretched position (and only 3-6 sets per week), and my middle delts are the biggest they have ever been by far. They look way better at 41 years old and 205 pounds than when I was 24 and 225.
For convenience:
"subject: SEND HELMS THE DEVICE
why do you want Helms to not have big calves?"
That this channel only has 38000 subscribers confirms my suspicions. People are generally morons and don't know what's good for them. But we do.
Thanks so much David and unfortunately I have to agree, even though it's a massively biased response from me of course 😅
- Pascal
Me and my gym partner call those single leg cable extensions “flamingo extensions” cause you stand on one leg like a flamingo
Love it - Steve
I have the calf apparatus mentioned and they are now readily available on..... read more
I kept clicking read more :D - Steve
Holy shit that Star Wars calf joke wrecked me
So good to hear and see Eric again. It's been too long. I "love" this guy - in admiration manner lol 🙏
It was way too long!
15:40 can pls anyone give me a linkbfor that device🙏
not even Eric got it, just go on amazon and search for an orthotic device for your foot/ankle - Steve
I thought I read that the studies showing the superiority of lengthened partials had the subjects using a heavier weight when compared to those doing full ROM. If that's correct, it would suggest that the amount of tension, even with reduced range of motion, is the more important component.
Is my memory failing me?
Nonetheless, I have trouble believing that there isn't a fundamental benefit to full ROM, the most basic being the ability to safely apply high forces safely through full ROM. The shortened position is generally the "safer" portion of a lift, but I wonder if a person who biases his training to the lengthened position to an extreme degree might not be increasing injury risk is the shorter positions.
Sissy squats stretches the quads but you can’t overload it much; does this negate the benefit to stretch the quads more?
It's a good question and I think more evidence will be able to answer that question
- Pascal
I really wonder how the combination of exercises with the main part being not the stretched position in combination with stretched isometrics would play out.
Why wouldn't Dr Helms just embrace the class where he could be exceptional?
Do you guys have a video of how to set up the cable for the standing leg extension?
th-cam.com/video/imZN-OSa_bQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TestosteroneNation
Very similar to this. Possibly using a larger ROM
Unfortunately we don't
- Pascal
Congrats eric, the pro card is yours
free protein bars is honestly a pretty fair goal.
I ve satrted doing the standing cable leg extensions, they are awesome.
Great quad and hipflexors activación, it feels way better than normal seated variation, You feel your whole quads from the knee to the hips.
Also, when using cables you can do both functions of the quad, it's like kicking a ball.
Would love to a have a proper setup to test these
- Pascal
@@ReviveStronger have to put somethingh in front of you to hold on to. And and step onto a plate.
Oh this one gonna be a banger - read a lot about this from Chris Beardsley recently which blew my mind🤯
It really is. Top content as per usual by Eric!
- Pascal
28:15 on gym80 legextensions you probably get the best stretch with a very stable foundation. If you put the sit back and the footpad max back and then you have to put something behind your back.
Sound good! - Steve
Great podcast mate, I thought you or Eric might know the answer to this- why is it that during isolation exercises you can get a proper “burn” and pump. But doesn’t seem to happen on compound exercises.
For example, your triceps on a tricep push down compared to say a bench press?
Thanks man.
Thanks dude, so that's probably because you're isolating the muscle and so it's easier for the pump/burn to happen in an isolated region. Having said that I get a crazy pump/burn from a leg press in my quads, so I don't think it's a black and white think at all. - Steve
Hate the intro music
I’m actually doing a group project for an entrepreneurship class and we’re using my idea for a device that gives more tension in the stretched position. I may use this podcast for my “market research” segment of my presentation if that’s okay.
Go for it - Steve
Its so funny that the recent strech hype is kind of rehabilitating all the memes of before like alphadestinys rack pull above the knee, croc rows or branch warrens and ronnies training styles...they all stretched muscles to the max under heavy loads
Not sure I totally understand, rack pulls remove the stretched portion of the lift - Steve
@@ReviveStronger upper traps
The whole over head cable tricep extensions makes sense to me...! I've supersetted them with kickbacks for years and just a few sets gives a great pump and is enough for growth on top of all the pressing.If I do more, my tris dont usually recover on time. And also I'm considering changing gyms just for this exercise, the gym I frequent have older and un-maintained cable stations with weird frictions sometimes, really throws things off. Thanks for the great content Steve.
Thanks for sharing! - Steve
I'm gonna have to start programming a gracilis / sartorious day so I can have a mustache like Pascal
Haha get on it! - Steve
I wish we could see Eric versus Steve head to head. They both look pretty close to each other in terms of size and muscularity. I've always wanted to see some of the TH-cam guys go head to like Layne Norton versus the Barbell Medicine guys in a powerlifting competition against each other. Both Jordan Feigenbaum and Austin Baraki have lifts that could compete against Layne Norton in powerlifting at close to the same weight. That would be fun.
I would LOVE to compete with Eric one day! - Steve