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- Cabin view of ambulance (Mercedes Sprinter) negotiating it's way through heavy traffic on a Brisbane freeway while on an emergency (code 1) run.
Back in the late 1990s, Queensland paramedics did a 2 week intense advanced driving course, including skid pan control, and reversing F-Series ambulances through a obstacle course in a time trial. Now, university students learning to be trainee paramedics do a basic 5 day course.
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The good Ol' traffic jam on the m1
Ambulances should have Mad Max designs for dealing with knob drivers
I saw your comment on the lights 'n sirens run in the UK and your frustration. To be honest: I'm not really surprised with you having trouble getting through the traffic jam here. Obviously there's no traffic law in Australia which requires drivers to have pulled over before being able to see or hear an approaching emergency vehicle.
Just yesterday I went on an emergency call on a highway in southern Germany. I was able to keep up a speed of more than 60 kph most of the time
We have some great roads, but terrible drivers. I've lived in Germany and the difference in driver quality is staggering! Only in our wildest dreams would we have Rettungsgasse!
@@coover65 although it wuite often doesn't look like as it should be and it's far from perfect most of the time, I usually like what I see. On my run 2 days ago there were only few (primarily foreign) drivers which didn't follow the law but although I had to slow down for them I never was slow.
Of course there are also some situations where it works exactly as it should:
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I will say these drivers in Brisbane did a pretty good job to at least try to clear the way. In Adelaide they would have just sat there and expected the ambulance to just find a way around. South Australian drivers are shocking at the best of times but they have a mentality of I'm in front get out of MY way.
There are traffic laws requiring drivers to pull or stop for emergency services at lights, but they ignore the laws anyway and I don't know what the law is now, if you are required to pull to the left or stay where you are and let the emergency services go around you which I know why be impossible like in the video?
kwv4865 pull over to left and slow down and let us pass
Nice one Coover, some nice patient precision driving there
Getting a Code 1 in rush hour traffic. What hell.
nice job, lots of patience there!
and surprisingly, lots of drivers that know what to do when an EMS is up their read end, I've seen a few that have no clue and sit there like stuffed dummies...
I think what we need to as well, is even people in the far left lane moving over too, so people in the right lane can move over faster.
+Tasmania Emergency Photography Local knowledge of roads is important. Luckily this section of the freeway has a breakdown lane to the right, on other roads there isn't that much room, so using the left hand breakdown lane, or just lane splitting is your only option. I like that parts of London have dedicated bus lanes that emergency vehicles can use.
You are 100% right, they needed to move over as well so people in the right lane could too!
Tasmania Emergency Photography No，amb driver is idiot，he should drive in the
mid lane，so same time people can move left and right！！ sorry my english not good enough……
郑元超 In Australia, ambulances are crewed by paramedics, not "ambulance drivers". Secondly, the driver was not an idiot. This was the best lane to be in, as most of the time only one lane of traffic has to move. Sometimes being in the middle lane is the best idea, but Australian drivers are taught to move to the left when an emergency vehicle approaches.
they just need to build highways with dedicated shoulders or emergency lanes. its really not that hard to do.
It doesn't help that the freeways do not have a slip lane for emergencies. It looked like a barrier was impeding their progress all the way.
Nice one! Love your driving :)
University students in QLD are not permitted to drive the ambulance whilst on clinical placement. The only time we can drive is if both qualified paramedics are required to be in the PT care seats, even so we still can't drive Code 1. Paramedics accepted into the GPIP are required to do the full 2 and a bit week driver-training course. Great Video though, you’ve demonstrated excellent skills in Code 1 driving!
You find Sam that comments about student paramedics most likely refer to the QAS recruits (where you went through the 3 year Diploma course as a QAS staff member). I gather by your post that you are working your way through the Bachelor. Best of luck with your studies, and I hope you are on road soon. Beats working for a living!
Oh I see the confusion now! Yea mate I am, but I have been fortunate enough to become an Honorary Officer with QAS out in Kenilworth, so I have been getting a ton of hands on experience. Thanks for your reply :)
In the UK it’s called a category 1 (:
Good god absolutely sad and shocking
I'm still trying to work out just why the Australian ambulances need to use the American siren tones. The original siren tones used by Australian ambulances left no doubt that an ambulance was approaching, as they had their own very specific tone sound, which wasn't used by any other emergancy services. Also, isn't this the reason that all highways/freeways NEED to have a breakdown lane? It gives any emergancy vehicles an almost clear run, free of other vehicles?
this siren hasn't been used for yonks. look at a new video (just search "QAS responding"), they're really distinctive. at least if you're an emergency services nerd, ie myself.
Always wondered why the dorks who design these roads can't make the emergency lane (hard shoulder) much wider than they do....they could make the penalty for driving in them illegally, very high, to keep the muppets out of them.
it doesn't really need one for emergency vehicles. As long as people pull over we get through also when there's no shoulder at all
No its the Queensland drivers that are the problem.Backward skills to suit the backward state they live in. You only have to see how easy it is to get a truck licence there. If you see morons driving trucks with "dogs' being towed in road work and other construction sites, it is a testament to how slack the driving test is in Queensland. Guys with hardly any car driving experience obtaining a heavy vehicle licence. Even the basic car licence is easier to obtain in Queensland than in any other state. No wonder Qld has the highest crash rate per capita in the country.
@@125sloth I met someone who said he was from Queensland and had his licence renewal done at a police station. Basically the officer said 'I know you're going around on the farm so I'll give ya the truck licence as well'. Round the block in the car and all the forms completed, he got out of there with a car and truck licence.
@@mubd1234 Yep. And they wonder why these sorts of drivers crash in built up areas on the odd occasion they leave the farm or the town. I know of a Victorian police station that used to do similar, back in the day. Wasn't the only one either. Won't say where, except it snows there sometimes. There is nothing wrong with police in country areas issuing licences, it is common if too many k's from a regular civilian testing station. The problem was slack cops who didn't care that much. It was the done thing once, if the local cop knew you drove to police station to be tested, obviously you could drive. That is appalling really. The problem in Australia in general, with both car and most heavy vehicle licences is that "students" are taught only how to obtain a licence, not so much how to actually drive.
Its because Liberal governments don't fund infrastructure properly mate
I'm annoyed the state governments in Australia still haven't adopted the rumbler to their ambulances yet…
It's now 2017 & ambulances still getting stuck in traffic.
A rumbler adds a lower frequency to the siren allowing it to penetrate through hard surfaces like vehicles, so the people in vehicles can hear also feel the direction of where the siren is coming from.
Personally I'd like to see rumblers and better strobes for our ambulances. Sometimes though it seems nothing matters, you always get drivers who genuinely don't care to get over for an ambulance. You drive slightly to the right behind them and see them look at you in their side mirror, then they just keep going like we're invisible. Dashcams are what are needed!
Look at emergency vehicles in the US. They've got enough strobes to put on a laser show and they have the same problems as anywhere else. People driving cars are busy fiddling with their stereos, the cruise control, the AC & heat, while talking on cell phones and babbling to passengers and checking out the scenery. US fire equipment has lights, air horns, and in some cases multiple sirens and people still don't notice them coming.
95% of people are lousy drivers. Until cars drive themselves nothing's going to change.
mate you could have giant fucking ship fog horns and still cunts wont move. Its not a sound level problem its an education and lack of intelligence problem. The rumbler is great but it also couldnt be used constantly ie for this entire video as the frequency is actually bad for the occupants of the ambulance for periods of time longer than a few minutes.
Have to admit that here in qld there are a lot of ignorant, particular asian drivers that seem clueless when it comes to emergency vehicles. however ive been in a heavy vehicle where i couldnt move over any more than i had (peak hour traffic, beside a broken down truck) without further damaging my vehicle ( smacked mirrors into each other, thats how close we were to the truck beside me) and yet i seemed to of copped it from a pyscho qld ambo car, he reved the engine, honked the horn, flashed lights. even hands out the window and the chirp chirp/repeat the siren.
I felt terrible, There was nothing i could do short of full on smack into the traffic infront of me or the truck beside me. I would even use my trucks airhorns to blast idiots out of the way for ambos. But after that experience ive invested in dashcams that cover all sides of my truck. I wont stand for roadrage at me, especially from an emergency vehicle.
We need more motorbike ambos in qld, or even pull a stupid motorbike cop from doing speedchecks to escort more ambos. Because trying to get a giant wide van down the inside of a packed peak hour motorway with no shoulder like this is just stupid.
Nobody should be subjected to road rage, especially from a professional driver. With the QAS code of conduct and social media, it's just not worth risking a career by being a hot head.
We had motorcycle response units years ago. The bikes and training supplied by QPS. I think it was a political move to get rid of them, and just like QPS policy, the bikes could only be ridden during the day.
Do you have anymore videos like this??
That's the old siren so it must be one of the old Ambulances which should all most be out of the current fleet altogether. The new siren is very distinctive and you can't miss it or mistake it for police or fire rescue. I'd be very surprised if it's one of the new style ambulances we see every day. If you're a QAS paramedic what would be your thoughts of adding additional SPRIT vehicles along with motorcycles as just seen there a motorcycle would of been able to get through the traffic quicker.
Corey Dark That ambulance was one of the last blue bonnet Sprinters. A small number of them had a siren that had a different siren to the majority.
The QAS had a motorcycle at Southport; no idea why they got rid of it. Most thought it was useful.
+Corey Dark The " new sirens" like the ones NSW police had 15 years ago? are not that crash hot, they are low in frequency, but not penetrating like a bass, in built up traffic, you often cant hear them till they almost pass you, the previous higher pitched sirens, were more noticeable - and since they no longer top mount sirens the more penetration you can give the better, its all about acoustics, when your shooting 20 feet away at almost ground level - into all the other metal on the road, it dramatically reduces the ability for drivers to hear you because majority of that sound is absorbed, when top mounted, they shoot all over the top of that metal and can be heard far greater distances therefor more motorists with more time to get out the way, police have same problem, fireies yes too, but not as much given they are higher off the ground they can be heard more easier.
Ressy66 You make a very good point, Ressy. 99% of the time I hear an ambulance siren it's when I'm in the front of the ambulance. When I do hear another unit coming to back us up, I'm too busy to notice how far away they are in relation to the sound of the siren. The older QAS ambulances had roof mounted sirens; then they fitted them into the grill of the F series. Now with the Mercs the sirens are in the bumper. I wonder if ETT (most common ambulance manufacturer in Australia) have done studies on this. Worth investigating. I don't know if it's because cars are more sound proof nowadays, but more and more drivers seem less responsive to ambulances behind them. Seems the only way to get their attention is to get the flashing headlights in their drivers side mirror.
+Coover yeah, I think its the combo of better sound proofing and all that metal of other cars obstructing sound travel, the "rumbler " thats used overseas (a bass siren with bass horn speaker) and in some local fire trucks (roma st has, or had at least one) would help a bit, but I think only for overcoming soundproofing, aircons and radios, I still think even it will have the barrier effectiveness issues of cars/trucks unless they top mount it, which might be better, I think when activated they are time limited as well to protect your ear drums and sanity (we all hate those doof doof #@%#ers who pull up next to us in traffic) heh.
I'd love to know who makes the new siren for the QAS sprinter vans.
No Rettungsgasse?
Not in Australia. Our freeway designers not that forward thinking.
Yeah I completely, my dad has been a paramedic for over 20 years now, all he complains about is, "Student paramedics drive to fast, they drive as if they know people will move and they are going to end up killing someone one day." Besides saying we need louder sirens, compared to ambulances in the US, QAS has terrible sirens.
Sounds like your dad echoes the sentiments of many a seasoned ambo. If he's stationed anywhere between Brisbane and the GC I probably know him.
Cronk...in a lot of ways I agree with your Dad. Sirens are meant to get your attention long before the emergency vehicle gets near you, not when it arrives at your rear bumper and gives you little time to move out of the way....it's called "see and be seen"...if you can't hear it coming, you won't be looking for it. Have a squizz at some of the videos on YT featuring the Dutch ambo's...190+kph down the motorway and you can see vehicles 600meters ahead moving over...even when they aren't actually blocking the lane the ambulance is using! If you can't hear it, you probably won't see it, if you can't see it , you can't avoid it!!
Tell your Dad he's doing a great job and to keep safe out there.
Just as some people aren't meant to be fighter pilots, some people driving a car just aren't going to react until they've got emergency lights filling their rear-view mirrors -- and then they'll probably do the wrong thing.
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TO be honest: I'm a paramedic as well and I usually drive faster with my own car than with the ambulance or doctor car ... simply because none of our EMS units is fast (the ambulance reaches 150 kph, the doctor car 180 kph); Driving to work or back home I'm faster than with any of our EMS units during the shift
why not drive in middle lane？so all the car can move two side......
Mate!!! I used to live near there, is that near Beenleigh?!
+SprinkleGamingHD Certainly is. Starts at the M1 bridge over the Logan river (you can see the old red bridge) heading northbound to near Daisy Hill area.
are the ambulances auto or manual ?
+That Aussie Guy Being a Mercedes Sprinter, they're fitted with "sprintshift", which is that semi-auto gearbox being found more and more in cars (my knowledge of car mechanics is limited, so don't know the official term for this gearbox type.)
Sport shift can either drive as auto or as manual
I am a paramedic
Christ some of the Australian Drivers frozen. Not keen on moving to one side.
Wow
Too many holden utes
Ah yes, another day on the M1 carpark
at least you didn’t have to drive over the lines that make really annoying noises
Ok!!
are you in QAS?
+Shae Patrick Was, had to retire after sustaining a back injury at work. Cut a long story short, was rostered with a colleague who management knew was not physically fit to work, yet rostered her on duty. QAS have a "fatigue management plan", but bums on seats (crewing ambulances) takes priority over staff safety. Once you're injured the QAS gives you lip service then chucks you on the scrap heap. It's the on road staff (and some management) that make the job worthwhile-an awesome bunch to work with. Was in QAS for two decades.
Excuse my ignorance and sorry for replying so late, but is this the same in NSW? I've heard pretty bad things about management. I was also wondering about employment chances straight out of Uni doing a Bachelor. Thanks for your time.
I too must apologize for such a delayed response. TBH, I have no idea about ASNSW. Staff who have transferred from NSW to Qld. say it's basically the same. I don't know what % of graduates get a job, but I do feel for those studying who (in my opinion) just aren't suited for the job but still spend the time and money to get the degree (I used to lecture and supervise OSCIs at a couple of Qld. universities).
The german system is better where the emergency vehicle goes down the middle of the road . see a german ambulance run
The German system is better only when there is no shoulder lane.
The German system is not better, it's MUCH better! The problem here in Australia is that motorists are always told to pull to the left to give way/yield to emergency vehicles. Granted this rule was probably enacted decades ago before we even had multi lane freeways, and was just never updated to reflect current road designs. As a person who did driver training in Germany and Queensland, I can tell you the standard of Australian drivers is way behind that of Germans. Trying to get Australians to split like the German method would just confuse too many Australians.
They seem to manage alright when I force them into it. Just have to give them time to notice you and move, or you get panic and unpredictable responses.
the problem with the german system is over here, that our vehicles are longer, wider and heavier, not much good having a b double semi try and pull to the side so an ambo can run up the middle. Hes better.off coming down the right like this as a truck can move left and make a rolling roadblock as it moves over left
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi that's not a problem at all. B Doubles are driving on German highways as well. The point is: they are not supposed to start pulling over as soon as they see or hear the emergency vehicle coming up from behind, but they are required to have moved over from the very beginning as soon as they slow down and end up in the traffic jam
whats code 1 tho?
"Code 1" is the term for an emergency run (using lights and siren); called Code 3 in the US. Code 1 jobs are for actual or potential life threatening injuries/illness.
Code 1 is what's called Code 3 in North America. We have Code 1 (actually or potentially life threatening), Code 2 (Urgent or semi urgent), or Code 3 (routine cases like specialized transport to hospital for appointments etc. Code 3 cases are usually done by non-paramedic crews in dedicated ambulances that aren't equipped as emergency response ambulances (patient transport services).
People care way too much about protecting their spot in the middle lane. It's infuriating.
men dead :D